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"Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by anotherkim on 10-14-04 at 05:44 PM

Once the show has actually started (you know, in a little over 3 hours), please keep it here until the show has aired on the West Coast. I am not saying to do that until the show starts, so don't go hating on me for posting early, 'kay?
If you think about it, this makes the Thursday night discussions much easier. Easy is good. I'm all about easy.
Miscellaneous Ramblings
--I started this thread while on vacation, thus the premature posting of it. Someone bump me if it gets too low. I may not be online later. Thanks!

Table of contents

RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,volsfan, 07:33 PM, 10-14-04
- RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,ARnutz, 07:39 PM, 10-14-04
Every week, I think so what it's stupid, then a few,DontGetMeStarted, 08:04 PM, 10-14-04
- RE: Every week, I think so what it's stupid, then a few,ARnutz, 08:15 PM, 10-14-04
RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion - Spoiler Info?,Pepito, 08:48 PM, 10-14-04
- RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion - Spoiler Info?,ARnutz, 08:51 PM, 10-14-04
RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,ARnutz, 08:58 PM, 10-14-04
RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,Loree, 08:58 PM, 10-14-04
Opening scene,PhoenixMons, 09:00 PM, 10-14-04
RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,volsfan, 09:00 PM, 10-14-04
RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,ARnutz, 09:00 PM, 10-14-04
Kevin,PhoenixMons, 09:01 PM, 10-14-04
RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,subman, 09:01 PM, 10-14-04
- RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,volsfan, 09:09 PM, 10-14-04
  - RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,subman, 09:23 PM, 10-14-04
RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,volsfan, 09:02 PM, 10-14-04
task,PhoenixMons, 09:02 PM, 10-14-04
Task in detail,PhoenixMons, 09:04 PM, 10-14-04
RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,volsfan, 09:04 PM, 10-14-04
RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,seahorse, 09:05 PM, 10-14-04
- RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,subman, 09:11 PM, 10-14-04
RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,ARnutz, 09:05 PM, 10-14-04
- RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,SurvivorBlows, 09:10 PM, 10-14-04
  - RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,ARnutz, 09:11 PM, 10-14-04
    - RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,Rothschild, 11:43 PM, 10-14-04
Maria,PhoenixMons, 09:05 PM, 10-14-04
RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,volsfan, 09:06 PM, 10-14-04
Maria choses a designer,PhoenixMons, 09:06 PM, 10-14-04
RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,ARnutz, 09:06 PM, 10-14-04
Apex,PhoenixMons, 09:07 PM, 10-14-04
RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,volsfan, 09:08 PM, 10-14-04
RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,seahorse, 09:09 PM, 10-14-04
Mosaic,PhoenixMons, 09:09 PM, 10-14-04
- RE: Mosaic,subman, 09:27 PM, 10-14-04
RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,ARnutz, 09:10 PM, 10-14-04
- RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,subman, 09:14 PM, 10-14-04
RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,volsfan, 09:12 PM, 10-14-04
- RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,subman, 09:17 PM, 10-14-04
The Donald,PhoenixMons, 09:13 PM, 10-14-04
RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,PhoenixMons, 09:14 PM, 10-14-04
RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,seahorse, 09:14 PM, 10-14-04
RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,volsfan, 09:14 PM, 10-14-04
- RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,Loree, 09:17 PM, 10-14-04
RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,ARnutz, 09:14 PM, 10-14-04
- RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,volsfan, 09:32 PM, 10-14-04
Raj?,PhoenixMons, 09:14 PM, 10-14-04
- Kelly,PhoenixMons, 09:15 PM, 10-14-04
RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,seahorse, 09:15 PM, 10-14-04
- RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,Fishercat, 09:20 PM, 10-14-04
Elizabeth,PhoenixMons, 09:16 PM, 10-14-04
- RE: Elizabeth,Loree, 09:19 PM, 10-14-04
RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,ARnutz, 09:17 PM, 10-14-04
Mosaic,PhoenixMons, 09:18 PM, 10-14-04
RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,volsfan, 09:18 PM, 10-14-04
Mosaic's designer,PhoenixMons, 09:19 PM, 10-14-04
Maria is annoying,PhoenixMons, 09:23 PM, 10-14-04
- RE: Maria is annoying,Loree, 09:25 PM, 10-14-04
Raj,PhoenixMons, 09:24 PM, 10-14-04
RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,Out4Blood, 09:25 PM, 10-14-04
- RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,PhoenixMons, 09:27 PM, 10-14-04
RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,ARnutz, 09:27 PM, 10-14-04
RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,Out4Blood, 09:27 PM, 10-14-04
RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,volsfan, 09:28 PM, 10-14-04
RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,seahorse, 09:28 PM, 10-14-04
This?,PhoenixMons, 09:29 PM, 10-14-04
Apex fashion show,PhoenixMons, 09:29 PM, 10-14-04
- LOL,PhoenixMons, 09:34 PM, 10-14-04
RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,subman, 09:31 PM, 10-14-04
RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,Out4Blood, 09:31 PM, 10-14-04
- RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,Loree, 09:32 PM, 10-14-04
- RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,Out4Blood, 09:50 PM, 10-14-04
Mosaic's fashion show,PhoenixMons, 09:32 PM, 10-14-04
RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,ARnutz, 09:32 PM, 10-14-04
RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,subman, 09:33 PM, 10-14-04
Well, I guess I am just the leash fashionable human on Earth,Fishercat, 09:34 PM, 10-14-04
- RE: Well, I guess I am just the leash fashionable human on Earth,seahorse, 09:35 PM, 10-14-04
Results time,PhoenixMons, 09:35 PM, 10-14-04
- RE: Results time,PhoenixMons, 09:36 PM, 10-14-04
RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,ARnutz, 09:36 PM, 10-14-04
RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,seahorse, 09:37 PM, 10-14-04
AHEM....,volsfan, 09:37 PM, 10-14-04
- RE: AHEM....,seahorse, 09:38 PM, 10-14-04
  - Hey Seahorse!,volsfan, 09:43 PM, 10-14-04
    - RE: Hey Seahorse!,seahorse, 09:44 PM, 10-14-04
      - RE: Hey Seahorse!,volsfan, 09:46 PM, 10-14-04
        
        RE: Hey Seahorse!,seahorse, 09:49 PM, 10-14-04
- RE: AHEM....,Puffy, 09:44 PM, 10-14-04
- RE: AHEM....,munson, 11:25 PM, 10-14-04
Pricing,PhoenixMons, 09:38 PM, 10-14-04
RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,subman, 09:40 PM, 10-14-04
RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,ARnutz, 09:40 PM, 10-14-04
Guys headed to boardroom,PhoenixMons, 09:42 PM, 10-14-04
RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,seahorse, 09:43 PM, 10-14-04
- sheer math,PhoenixMons, 09:45 PM, 10-14-04
  - RE: sheer math,Loree, 09:52 PM, 10-14-04
  - RE: sheer math,Captain_Savem, 08:11 PM, 10-16-04
    - RE: sheer math,PhoenixMons, 12:33 PM, 10-18-04
- RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,Fishercat, 09:47 PM, 10-14-04
RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,subman, 09:44 PM, 10-14-04
- RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,volsfan, 09:49 PM, 10-14-04
RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,PhoenixMons, 09:47 PM, 10-14-04
RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,PhoenixMons, 09:49 PM, 10-14-04
RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,ARnutz, 09:51 PM, 10-14-04
- RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,seahorse, 09:52 PM, 10-14-04
RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,Pepito, 10:17 PM, 10-14-04
Parsons School of Design Seamstresses,Pepito, 10:32 PM, 10-14-04
Men in their shades,Loree, 10:41 PM, 10-14-04
- RE: raj dodged a bullet,truffleshuffle, 11:30 PM, 10-14-04
- RE: Men in their shades,munson, 11:30 PM, 10-14-04
- RE: Men in their shades,okaychatt, 09:17 PM, 10-15-04
RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,Rothschild, 00:07 AM, 10-15-04
- RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion,volsfan, 09:27 AM, 10-15-04

Messages in this discussion

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by volsfan on 10-14-04 at 07:33 PM

I must say...that AKim thinks of everything! I thought you had gotten back from vaca Kim and was gonna give you a big fat welcome! However, I read the small print and realize that you are still on vaca!
However, good idea to get this up now. Last week I don't think the thresd got started until like 15 mins into the show.
Also, I think tonight's show is only 50 mins long. ER is "supersized"! URGH...I hate that!

Director of Public Relations for GAWKUR!

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by ARnutz on 10-14-04 at 07:39 PM

LAST EDITED ON 10-14-04 AT 07:39 PM (EST)
Also, I think tonight's show is only 50 mins long. ER is "supersized"! URGH...I hate that!
Hi Vols! OMG are you serious!!! It's getting cut shorter?? Guess I will have to plan to watch Saturday too this week!

I'm just a squirrel trying to get a nut.

"Every week, I think so what it's stupid, then a few"
Posted by DontGetMeStarted on 10-14-04 at 08:04 PM

hours before it's ready to air I go and get all excited about it!
I'm a Apprentice junkie!!!

"RE: Every week, I think so what it's stupid, then a few"
Posted by ARnutz on 10-14-04 at 08:15 PM

Me too! LOL! Today I'm anticipating the episode even more than normal!

I'm just a squirrel trying to get a nut.

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion - Spoiler Info?"
Posted by Pepito on 10-14-04 at 08:48 PM

Guys, I just the perview again, the DON'T ANNOY GEORGE segment... it George, in the boardroom saying, angrily, "The guy is a phoney..." Wow! I don't remember seeing that before...

Hmmmmm, looks like it will be Mosaic in the boardroom, not Apex, as most of us have imagined...
So, who is the phoney? The most likely is Raj... but I wouldn't discount Wes, either. Or John.
Pepito

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion - Spoiler Info?"
Posted by ARnutz on 10-14-04 at 08:51 PM

Oooohhhh!!! This could be a very juicy tidbit Pepito! We'll find out soon enough won't we??
P.S. I don't remember seeing that before either!

I'm just a squirrel trying to get a nut.

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by ARnutz on 10-14-04 at 08:58 PM

Ok recapping last week.
Mosaic won for the 4th time. DT doesn't want another Enron, so Pamela was fired.

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by Loree on 10-14-04 at 08:58 PM

Money Money Money... it's on.

"Opening scene"
Posted by PhoenixMons on 10-14-04 at 09:00 PM

Raj says Pamela is seen as strongest contender of the women. He thinks Pam should be fired.
"Ding dong the ice queen's dead"

"Here is my secret. It's quite simple: One sees clearly only with the heart. Anything essential is invisible to the eyes."

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by volsfan on 10-14-04 at 09:00 PM

Everyone is having a PARTAH now that Pamela is gone!

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by ARnutz on 10-14-04 at 09:00 PM

LOL! Did Maria use the bedazzler to make that outfit?
Ding dong... again? Now the Ice Queen is dead!

"Kevin"
Posted by PhoenixMons on 10-14-04 at 09:01 PM

says the women gelled once Pamela left. He says when the women gel, it's never good for the men. But he says he's not scared.

"Here is my secret. It's quite simple: One sees clearly only with the heart. Anything essential is invisible to the eyes."

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by subman on 10-14-04 at 09:01 PM

Stacy the kneeknocker is a little punk.
Engineered by Gothmog, 2004

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by volsfan on 10-14-04 at 09:09 PM

LAST EDITED ON 10-14-04 AT 09:10 PM (EST)
Hey sub...where the heck you been?
ETA: Everyone else...MOVE ON!

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by subman on 10-14-04 at 09:23 PM

Don't you start with me you dawg beater. This guy beats a dawg(Georgia Bulldogs) and then brags about it-go figure.
Engineered by Gothmog, 2004

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by volsfan on 10-14-04 at 09:02 PM

John is PM for the men!

"task"
Posted by PhoenixMons on 10-14-04 at 09:02 PM

involves something with "trump model management" be there at 8 a.m.

"Here is my secret. It's quite simple: One sees clearly only with the heart. Anything essential is invisible to the eyes."

"Task in detail"
Posted by PhoenixMons on 10-14-04 at 09:04 PM

Trump model management
They have to produce a new clothing line that will "become, hopefully, tomorrow's hottest fashion". They have to pick an emerging designer. They will show their fashions at some show to get big name buyers to purchase.
Team that earns most money selling their clothes win!

"Here is my secret. It's quite simple: One sees clearly only with the heart. Anything essential is invisible to the eyes."

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by volsfan on 10-14-04 at 09:04 PM

They have to produce a new clothing line and they pick a designer and use Trump models for a modeling show! The team that earns the most money selling their designs win!
Maria is the PM for the women!

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by seahorse on 10-14-04 at 09:05 PM

The guys definitely are at a disadvantage on fasion shows.

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by subman on 10-14-04 at 09:11 PM

Not so fast. I know my way around women's clothes...er I mean my GIRlFRIEND taught me a lot about what women like to wear. Whew!

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by ARnutz on 10-14-04 at 09:05 PM

Maria is PM... oooohhh she has a minor in Home Economics... funny she doesn't seem like the Martha Stewart type!!

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by SurvivorBlows on 10-14-04 at 09:10 PM

Is home ecomonics really a college major? ...or a minor?
I have no clue -- I thought it was just a class you took in high school, LOL

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by ARnutz on 10-14-04 at 09:11 PM

I teach math at 2 colleges, we don't have that program at either one! LOL!

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by Rothschild on 10-14-04 at 11:43 PM

First link is for a professional career path
http://web.missouri.edu/~hes/
Second is for a secondary education path
http://www.semo.edu/study/secondaryed/family.htm

"Maria"
Posted by PhoenixMons on 10-14-04 at 09:05 PM

"put money on the Apex team" for winning this task. SHe "claims" to havea great background for this. And it's not as if she'd overstate her skills or anything, lol

"Here is my secret. It's quite simple: One sees clearly only with the heart. Anything essential is invisible to the eyes."

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by volsfan on 10-14-04 at 09:06 PM

The men pick their designer and the ladies go with a guy that says, "you want to be on the low end price at the high end stores"! This alarms some because of the last competition!

"Maria choses a designer"
Posted by PhoenixMons on 10-14-04 at 09:06 PM

Elizabeth doesn't like the choice...she's saying it's clear the buyers are the target audience. Maria wants to get her away from the group to the buyers (with Jen)

"Here is my secret. It's quite simple: One sees clearly only with the heart. Anything essential is invisible to the eyes."

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by ARnutz on 10-14-04 at 09:06 PM

OMG I can't stand Maria... she is such a freakin' witch!!! I hope she's fired!

"Apex"
Posted by PhoenixMons on 10-14-04 at 09:07 PM

Ivana says they designed the collection in 45 minutes over cheeseburgers. THe girls said they wanted something they'd actually all wear. Ivana said it was great to get ELizabeth out of their hair.

"Here is my secret. It's quite simple: One sees clearly only with the heart. Anything essential is invisible to the eyes."

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by volsfan on 10-14-04 at 09:08 PM

The men go talk to buyers and some go to design!
The guys have no idea...as Raj says show us how you would back a "baloony bottom" on this dress!

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by seahorse on 10-14-04 at 09:09 PM

I think this task was put in to help the girls out. This is a task they should definitely win.

"Mosaic"
Posted by PhoenixMons on 10-14-04 at 09:09 PM

OMG they are killing me! "How about a backpack??" "something to accentuate a woman's body".
Kelly sketches out an outfit...a coat...he's annoyed with Raj and John? and sketches the coat when the designer leaves...she seems to like it? Okay weird.

"Here is my secret. It's quite simple: One sees clearly only with the heart. Anything essential is invisible to the eyes."

"RE: Mosaic"
Posted by subman on 10-14-04 at 09:27 PM

Raj is messing up and now he's going to meet the models...I smell trouble people?
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"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by ARnutz on 10-14-04 at 09:10 PM

LOL!!! Pink camoflage (sp.?) underwears

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by subman on 10-14-04 at 09:14 PM

Yeah, that punk is going to pay for that crack. I don't wear pink camo underwear..in the field anyway.

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by volsfan on 10-14-04 at 09:12 PM

OK...The Donald just chatted about having to know their market...the winner tonight will know their market and the loser won't!

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by subman on 10-14-04 at 09:17 PM

Wow, such insight. No wonder he's a billionaire.

Engineered by Gothmog, 2004

"The Donald"
Posted by PhoenixMons on 10-14-04 at 09:13 PM

apparently isnt' satisfied with his air time...he yaks about how important knowing your market is. Foreshadowing anyone?

"Here is my secret. It's quite simple: One sees clearly only with the heart. Anything essential is invisible to the eyes."

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by PhoenixMons on 10-14-04 at 09:14 PM

Hehehe...the men are meeting with buyers (?) and they are making fun of the guys...saying how many straight male designers are there?

"Here is my secret. It's quite simple: One sees clearly only with the heart. Anything essential is invisible to the eyes."

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by seahorse on 10-14-04 at 09:14 PM

LAST EDITED ON 10-14-04 AT 09:27 PM (EST)
The guys can not think of a lot of straight male fashion designers. Great line.

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by volsfan on 10-14-04 at 09:14 PM

Carolyn is getting a kick out of the guys picking out materials! She is cracking up! She is laughing so hard she is crying!

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by Loree on 10-14-04 at 09:17 PM

Carolyn is making me laugh.

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by ARnutz on 10-14-04 at 09:14 PM

OMG!!! Were those designers making fun of the straight guys????

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by volsfan on 10-14-04 at 09:32 PM

Those guys were the buyers!

"Raj?"
Posted by PhoenixMons on 10-14-04 at 09:14 PM

picking out hideous plaid fabric!
Carolyn says Kelly is organized but the guys have no clue.

"Here is my secret. It's quite simple: One sees clearly only with the heart. Anything essential is invisible to the eyes."

"Kelly"
Posted by PhoenixMons on 10-14-04 at 09:15 PM

Says he's doing the PMs work

"Here is my secret. It's quite simple: One sees clearly only with the heart. Anything essential is invisible to the eyes."

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by seahorse on 10-14-04 at 09:15 PM

If the girls lose this week they will never win. Without a doubt.

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by Fishercat on 10-14-04 at 09:20 PM

Pretty much. This is one of those tasks that you would think is nearly impossible for the men to win (or the women to lose). It would be like asking Chris and 7 of his clones from Survivor to cross a balance beam...drunk. If the girls lose this, they are in some massive trouble. I just can't see it happening.
---
<== A Missionhockey21 creation

"Elizabeth"
Posted by PhoenixMons on 10-14-04 at 09:16 PM

Doesn't like hte material "not rich enough".
She says "what's the staple garment of hte collection?". Ivana gets "bitchy" (her words) and says "this is what we're going with

"Here is my secret. It's quite simple: One sees clearly only with the heart. Anything essential is invisible to the eyes."

"RE: Elizabeth"
Posted by Loree on 10-14-04 at 09:19 PM

It seems like Elizabeth is the next target of the women. They always pick someone to blame and gang up on that person.

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by ARnutz on 10-14-04 at 09:17 PM

Uh Oh! Are they ganging up on Elizabeth now???

"Mosaic"
Posted by PhoenixMons on 10-14-04 at 09:18 PM

picking models...someone said when the models showed up the guys were likes bees at a hive.

"Here is my secret. It's quite simple: One sees clearly only with the heart. Anything essential is invisible to the eyes."

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by volsfan on 10-14-04 at 09:18 PM

The guys are SOOOOOOO in trouble! These idiots!

"Mosaic's designer"
Posted by PhoenixMons on 10-14-04 at 09:19 PM

is shaking her head...the guys were joking around about something...she looks none too happy to be there

"Here is my secret. It's quite simple: One sees clearly only with the heart. Anything essential is invisible to the eyes."

"Maria is annoying"
Posted by PhoenixMons on 10-14-04 at 09:23 PM

OMH she is so fake!
THe girls like the designs...Maria tries on the clothes. Maria says she's confident the buys will love their line. THey seem to have things very well organized.

"Here is my secret. It's quite simple: One sees clearly only with the heart. Anything essential is invisible to the eyes."

"RE: Maria is annoying"
Posted by Loree on 10-14-04 at 09:25 PM

I can't stand Maria. I want her to lose so badly. But I doubt the women can lose this week.

"Raj"
Posted by PhoenixMons on 10-14-04 at 09:24 PM

Is getting ont heir nerves. He says he needs to know how to describe the clothes for the buyers and "blind sheets" (sorry my kid is crying in my ear)

"Here is my secret. It's quite simple: One sees clearly only with the heart. Anything essential is invisible to the eyes."

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by Out4Blood on 10-14-04 at 09:25 PM

Kelly's taking over, as usual.
He's not changed a bit.

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by PhoenixMons on 10-14-04 at 09:27 PM

John sure ain't doing his job as a PM. Kevin says he's not doing his job and it seems he's correct.

"Here is my secret. It's quite simple: One sees clearly only with the heart. Anything essential is invisible to the eyes."

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by ARnutz on 10-14-04 at 09:27 PM

Shameless product placement??? Kinko's... did the women have to get fliers again??

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by Out4Blood on 10-14-04 at 09:27 PM

LAST EDITED ON 10-14-04 AT 09:28 PM (EST)
Prediction:
Men lose - John gets fired. Raj and Andy in the boardroom...
Although, I'd take Ilsa to the boardroom if I could.

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by volsfan on 10-14-04 at 09:28 PM

I say the men lose due to pricing...we have to jack those prices up guys!

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by seahorse on 10-14-04 at 09:28 PM

The guys only chance is to play the sex card.

"This?"
Posted by PhoenixMons on 10-14-04 at 09:29 PM

Should be no contest (could it be THAT laid out for us?). THe guys look like a mess...SO disorganized. The women seem energized by Pamela's firing or something cause they are working well together (other than ELizabeth who is whining about everything).

"Here is my secret. It's quite simple: One sees clearly only with the heart. Anything essential is invisible to the eyes."

"Apex fashion show"
Posted by PhoenixMons on 10-14-04 at 09:29 PM

They had some cute stuff...the guys thought they could beat them "no buyer's gonna buy that" (mini skirts and backless dresses)

"Here is my secret. It's quite simple: One sees clearly only with the heart. Anything essential is invisible to the eyes."

"LOL"
Posted by PhoenixMons on 10-14-04 at 09:34 PM

no buyer would buy mini skirts and backless dresses but they'd buy your plaid and tweed and suede mish mosh of crapola? Delusional much?

"Here is my secret. It's quite simple: One sees clearly only with the heart. Anything essential is invisible to the eyes."

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by subman on 10-14-04 at 09:31 PM

Emperor music..cue the donald.
Engineered by Gothmog, 2004

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by Out4Blood on 10-14-04 at 09:31 PM

"a skirt that comes with its own leash"

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by Loree on 10-14-04 at 09:32 PM

>"a skirt that comes with its
>own leash"

I just realized I don't have one of those. LOL!

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by Out4Blood on 10-14-04 at 09:50 PM

Called it - but I didn't think he'd choose Kevin over Raj...
Way to fall on your sword though John!

"Mosaic's fashion show"
Posted by PhoenixMons on 10-14-04 at 09:32 PM

what's her name (the blond) says the guys' stuff was couture. SOmeone says "what's couture"....she says "high fashion".
I think their designs were butt ugly. The red shirt one wasn't too awful, but the rest were hideous (but apparently hideous is high fashion as most things at fashion shows look rather hideous to me)

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"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by ARnutz on 10-14-04 at 09:32 PM

Maybe I'm just too "T-shirt & blue jeans", but most of that stuff was uuuuugly...

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by subman on 10-14-04 at 09:33 PM

Jennifer M. I love Jennifer M. MARRY ME!!!!
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"Well, I guess I am just the leash fashionable human on Earth"
Posted by Fishercat on 10-14-04 at 09:34 PM

Granted, I'm a teenage boy who is completely out of touch with anything that could be considered fashion, but I thought a lot of those items were flat out ugly. The girls had a few cute items, but the guys? My God, I thought a lot of that stuff was hideous. A leash? A LEASH! Well, I need to stay out of fashion now.
(Note: The leash in subject line was an unintentional pun.)
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"RE: Well, I guess I am just the leash fashionable human on Earth"
Posted by seahorse on 10-14-04 at 09:35 PM

I'll second that one.

"Results time"
Posted by PhoenixMons on 10-14-04 at 09:35 PM

THe DOnald said it seems everyone had a good time
Apex: $7,735 total sales
Mosaic: $22,060
THe men got spanked (as if that was any question)

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"RE: Results time"
Posted by PhoenixMons on 10-14-04 at 09:36 PM

The Donald said the men lost because they overpriced (ya think?)
Reward is at Hugo Boss...Cirque de Soleil is performing.

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"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by ARnutz on 10-14-04 at 09:36 PM

OMG!!!!! Apex won & Maria is exempt next week!! Oh the horror...

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by seahorse on 10-14-04 at 09:37 PM

This was an old fashioned slaughter.

"AHEM...."
Posted by volsfan on 10-14-04 at 09:37 PM

Post #61!
JUST.SAYING!

"RE: AHEM...."
Posted by seahorse on 10-14-04 at 09:38 PM

Damn vols, how astute.

"Hey Seahorse!"
Posted by volsfan on 10-14-04 at 09:43 PM

Kiss my vols!

"RE: Hey Seahorse!"
Posted by seahorse on 10-14-04 at 09:44 PM

That was meant as a compliment.

"RE: Hey Seahorse!"
Posted by volsfan on 10-14-04 at 09:46 PM

LAST EDITED ON 10-14-04 AT 09:46 PM (EST)
Sorry Seahorse! I didn't hear the seriousness in your voice! HEHEHE!
ETA: Just kiddin with you!

"RE: Hey Seahorse!"
Posted by seahorse on 10-14-04 at 09:49 PM

You need to listen to my voice inflections.

"RE: AHEM...."
Posted by Puffy on 10-14-04 at 09:44 PM

I guess you and The Donald think alike, Vols. However, you don't have the same hairline.
P.S. Come to Atlanta.

"RE: AHEM...."
Posted by munson on 10-14-04 at 11:25 PM

Good call, vols, but I'm not sure they could have given those ugly things away!
They picked the wrong designer (Kevin was right on there), have no idea about women's clothing, have no taste in fabric. Really, I think by the time it came to price it was already toooo late!

"Pricing"
Posted by PhoenixMons on 10-14-04 at 09:38 PM

Raj and a few others agree that it was all about the pricing and they should focus on that in the boardroom.

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"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by subman on 10-14-04 at 09:40 PM

LAST EDITED ON 10-14-04 AT 09:42 PM (EST)
So, where was the scandalous male/model behavior? OK, Raj..I get it...Trump just cleared it up.
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"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by ARnutz on 10-14-04 at 09:40 PM

Oooohhh Kevin is awesome!! I love him!

"Guys headed to boardroom"
Posted by PhoenixMons on 10-14-04 at 09:42 PM

DT: SO men...after 4 victories ina row you finally lost. what happened?
John: I was gonna work my butt off and said he thinks the error was pricing
Kevin: he and Wes worked on the pricing...Kevin said he thinks they lost the challenge in the first two hours with Ilsa as hte desinger
Raj: "can I say something in defense of John?"
DT: Raj you drove hte models crazy!
Raj: said Kevin made a major mistake
Andy: would fire John
Kelly: would fire Andy
Oooh, this is getting ugly.
Chris says he'd fired John even though he worked the hardest because he left too many loose ends.
He takes Kevin and Andy. Kevin? Umm...he's no the one who said "jack up the prices, jack up the prices:" but whateva
Methinks Johnny boy is going home.

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"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by seahorse on 10-14-04 at 09:43 PM

Trump, obviously thinks a PM that only brings 2 others with him to the board room is stupid. I would not want to be this PM.

"sheer math"
Posted by PhoenixMons on 10-14-04 at 09:45 PM

it IS dumb. Why would anyone rather have a 1 in 3 chance of going home if they could have a 1 in 4 chance? Stupid, stupid, stupid.

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"RE: sheer math"
Posted by Loree on 10-14-04 at 09:52 PM

It seems like the PM never wants to bring more people into the boardroom. I think it's because they don't want to anger anymore people than possible. Thinking that person won't take them into the boardroom when they are PM later.

"RE: sheer math"
Posted by Captain_Savem on 10-16-04 at 08:11 PM

Or you could look at it this way:
(2 vs 1) or (3 vs 1)
Odds are whoever is the third person chosen, doesn't belong there. In this case I would've taken Kevin and Wes. I think John was a goner either way.

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"RE: sheer math"
Posted by PhoenixMons on 10-18-04 at 12:33 PM

True. But that would, I think, only apply if you think you should be fired...so either way you'd be screwed.
From the Donald's perspective (since we know where he stands with taking unnecessary "risks" wtih the whole Bradford incedent), it looks better if you take 3. It makes you look more confident, for one, and it makes you look smart in terms of taking better odds, too. ANd of course, since it's the Donald doing the firing (excepting of course when Stacie was fired...then it was more like a Salem Witch trial), that would be the way to go. He's said taking 2 is a stupid move on numerous occasions...you'd think these people would learn.

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"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by Fishercat on 10-14-04 at 09:47 PM

In this case, I would have to agree with Trump. I think the PM either should have went for both pricing assignees (Wes and Kevin along with Andy) or taken Raj in as a flier. Trump and Carolyn were in agreement that he was a pest both to the models and I think it was the designer. Last week, it cost Pamela not to bring Sandy (I think she was decor) who supposedly bothered QVC immensely (I hate names, they could be off, but you all should know who I'm talking about), it may cost the PM this week.
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"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by subman on 10-14-04 at 09:44 PM

LAST EDITED ON 10-14-04 AT 09:50 PM (EST)
I'm going waaaaaay out on a limb here and picking John to get fired. He picked the designer and she basically sucked. Raj dodged the bullet.
WOOOOO HOOOOOOOO!! I called it.....I'm ssssoooooo smart.

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"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by volsfan on 10-14-04 at 09:49 PM

I agree with you that the men's designer SUCKED!

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by PhoenixMons on 10-14-04 at 09:47 PM

LAST EDITED ON 10-14-04 AT 09:51 PM (EST)
George likes Andy of the group
Carolyn likes John
are they on crack? ETA not George...I was thinking of Wes when he said Andy...my bad.

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"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by PhoenixMons on 10-14-04 at 09:49 PM

Donald and George say John makes a big mistake by not taking Wes if it was all about the pricing.
John pleads his case. He says the team is strong but he's apologizing for making mistakes.
DT said Andy shouldn't be there.
John didn't bring Wes in the boardroom...John had no involvement in pricing as PM "that's just inexcusable".
John, you're fired.
DUH!

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"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by ARnutz on 10-14-04 at 09:51 PM

Man... it was so hard seeing one of the guys go! They were all good so far this season and there are many of the women who deserve to go!

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by seahorse on 10-14-04 at 09:52 PM

But they won this time.

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by Pepito on 10-14-04 at 10:17 PM

It was just plain silly of John to discuss the pricing errors then take only Kevin, and not Wes, into the boardroom. It was his plan to do so, but I think he made a last minute switch when many teammates nominated Andy for the taxi ride. I think that he thought that Andy was obviously his fail safe.
I do think that this was an unfair challenge. The men knew NOTHING about women's fashion, and would they? The women, who buy women's fashions, have a much better sense of acceptable styling for day to day use and for pricing, of course.
Raj was totally disinterested in the project, and just played around to amuse himself. Donald is not impressed with him -- he won't be around much longer.
Kevin was articulate and perpared for a fight. I think that he will be around for a while.
And little Andy knows when to keep his mouth shut. A rare gift on this show, and one that will probably take him far.
Maria is safe next week. It send shivers up my spine...

"Parsons School of Design Seamstresses"
Posted by Pepito on 10-14-04 at 10:32 PM

What was it that when Apex arrived the next morning, their entire line was created and ready to go, yet when Mosaic arrived, zip? Same school, whey did Mosaic not have the seamstresses to do their work?
The only logical conclusion is that the designer must have had to lay out patterns for the sewers (er, seamstresses) and Ilse did not have her patterns ready yet, and the Apex designer did. Don't know if this was the fault of Ilse, or the men wasting tons of time on the design process and in the fabric store combined with a designer who doesn't work really, really quickly?

"Men in their shades"
Posted by Loree on 10-14-04 at 10:41 PM

Were the men trying to look fashionable tonight with their shades?

"RE: raj dodged a bullet"
Posted by truffleshuffle on 10-14-04 at 11:30 PM

LAST EDITED ON 10-14-04 AT 11:38 PM (EST)
i have been a major fan of raj until this point, and the whole episode i thought he was going to get fired. what the f@ck! he got spanked by the Donald and George tonight. Raj is stealing too much of DT's spotlight. I can't wait to see the extended board room material. so what language was that when raj was talking to the model?
in defense of the men, I buy a dozen fashion magazines a month and i think there designs were very fashion forward. the whole tweed, "sexy librarian" look with broaches and flower pendants was totally in every september fashion magazine. if you noticed, the crowd was avidly discussing the men's collection. but good fashion almost never equals good sales (at least in department stores). High end fashion is sold in boutiques, not bloomingdales. that is where the men really screwed up.
the women's design show high-waisted pants, which only look good on size zero 6 feet tall fashion models. I think the women's designs were pretty simple (a halter-top dress), but this did help them get the task accomplished relatively quickly. unfortunately, the men did not pick a designer for the masses. I really liked the black zipper jacket, but i get something similar to that in the gap. whoopee.
i kind of feel like the men were set up to fail, and that's not really fair. but i also think the men should have thought like business men, not fashion designers. they didn't play to their strengths. I love fashion, and I thought about this challenge all week. They should have done an "aprentice"-inspired collection. Lots of menswear-inspired pieces, maybe throw in a cane or top hat. almost make it monopoly-inspired. i'm sure all the buyers knew that the fashion show was for the apprentice. then the men should have worn tuxedos and walked the models down the runway. it would have been such a better fashion show. designers do crazy sh!t like that all the time. DT loves commercial tie-ins. Can you imagine "apprentice fashions?" I remember when regis did shirts and ties when "who wants to be a millionaire" was big. My mom works in retail, and those shirts and ties flew off the shelves.

"RE: Men in their shades"
Posted by munson on 10-14-04 at 11:30 PM

Well, if so, they failed that task, too.

"RE: Men in their shades"
Posted by okaychatt on 10-15-04 at 09:17 PM

<Were the men trying to look fashionable tonight with their shades?
Nah - they just couldn't stand the glare from the UGLY outfits.

Everyone is entitled to my opinion.

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by Rothschild on 10-15-04 at 00:07 AM

Sorry Vol, but the men had the better designer ... the Audrey Hepburn look is not a go ... the men should have won -- they DID NOT listen to the designer --- she told them her pricing $99.00. The guys went retail $210.00. The leash is a winner ... but renamed a "leader".

"RE: Episide 6 Show Night Discussion"
Posted by volsfan on 10-15-04 at 09:27 AM

I guess I should have said that I did not like the men's designer's creations! I like the women's designer's creations much much better! I don't think either designer should be considered the "better designer", obviously they are more successful in creating clothes than either one of us!
However, I totally agree with you on the price...I called that when they were shown hiking the prices!

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