Usually for All Stars it seems they always include someone from every season, so then you would need 6 alliances of 4 each, etc.

I think some of the uneven seasons is unavoidable as they can't force people to sign up and not every season has as many people who wants to play.

Having people vote in also prevents a lot of the "perfect set up"

I'm not sure how 4X4 is any less a set up than vote people in. After all they could guess that people would vote season 6 in, but they couldn't assure it. I'd have rather seen all the guest voted in rather than part, but that is me.

I think the adding two more houseguests than planned was because season 6 dominated the voting and they wanted to make it harder for them by adding more people so they weren't as overly represented.

I suppose it is the producers fault that season 6 keeps winning HOH?

I suppose it is the producers fault that season 6 keeps winning HOH?

Of course it is. All the comps so far have been designed for the person that won them. Isn't it overly obvious??!

Put on your tin foil hat and join us!!!

I agree that a lot is contrived.....but as far as keeping BB6 in (and the numbers at the beginning of All Stars)...there is definately a viewer pleaser factor which someone else said.

Ironically, even if they left the hamsters alone to feed and prey on each other (without manipulating things or comps).....it would probably still have the same shock value. These are clearly disfunctional though some likable ppl.....the possiblities are endless.

I do beleive that some of the comps are geered to certain hgs. Particularly the one where the ones picked for the last veto were men. AND....some of the ones that involve mental skills as opposed to physical endurance I believe are geared towards BB6 (very scary they're the smarteest (minus Howie).....

Will is a doctor and he didn't do well with the mental skill task. Janelle is a cocktail waitress and she won it.

I am not saying cocktail waitresses are not smart people cuz some of them are but in order to be a doctor you have to be pretty sharp to make it thru medical school.

I don't think the comps are rigged. Many people are saying that since CG won and took himself off the block. The veto comp that he won was pretty easy. Any of them could have won it if they had been willing to go for it. Kaysar got right to the end of the comp and didn't have the good sense to write down 60 days of slop.

How could they rig that or even predict that kind of outcome?

I think you might be missing the fact that Will probably threw the HOH competition, just like he's been throwing every single competition. He said it openly in his nomination speech. He's going to throw every single competition. The other hamsters may not believe him, but that's exactly what he plans to do. The ironic thing is that the other HG's seem to completelly underestimate Will and let him slide every week, when in reality he's everyone's biggest threat. He's playing all of them like puppets and no one seems to be the wiser.

Joshinsgv writes: I think you might be missing the fact that Will probably threw the HOH competition,

Nope I am not missing that fact. The point I was trying to make is that I don't think the comps are rigged to give an edge to smart people or people who are stronger mentally which is the point another poster made.

The point of this thread is whether or not the show is rigged and is favoring certain HG. Even if Will decided to throw a comp then that is also proof that the show isn't rigged because the producers would have to know in advance who was going to throw a comp.

Just because Will said he would throw all comps doesn't mean he will follow thru on that. Will's speech was strategy not truth. He is psyching everybody out including some viewers who actually believe the stuff that comes out of his mouth.

>I think you might be missing
>the fact that Will probably
>threw the HOH competition, just
>like he's been throwing every
>single competition

Ding Ding Ding. Yep.

LAST EDITED ON 07-31-06 AT 11:45 AM (EST)

So did the producers arrange to have Will make his speech and throw comps before the show even aired?

In that case, before they even thought of the comps they decided to have a meeting with Will so he would know he was supposed to throw comps and make speeches about it.

Ok so if they had a meeting with Will to talk about how he should throw comps cuz well it's rigged and all. Then that means that CBS knew Will and S6 were going to be voted in by America. So really America's votes didn't count because the whole season was created just so America would get the chance to see S6 people again and CBS would have the honor of helping one of those guys win. Wow CBS is really big hearted. All this money and time and effort for the S6 people.

Hmmmm.... that's alot of work just to please the public. Funny, I always thought these networks wanted to make money and the only people they please are advertisers but what do I know.

Heck, if they wanted to please me they should have aired Jase throwing the fire extinguisher and Mike Boogie pissing in a vase. Now that would have been more entertaining than the stuff they actually air.

LAST EDITED ON 08-01-06 AT 09:46 PM (EST)

You know that Will is soooo throwing the comps. The producers voted Will in, not America. America voted Kaysar, James, Howie and Jase. I am sure the producers had a good idea that the SOV4 would probably end up back in the house because people most remember them because they just got off the show. Will is the smartest person in the game. He is throwing comps on purpose. If he becomes HOH, that puts him is a position of power with a target. What he is doing now is getting others to do his dirty work. Brillant!!!

I think we're both saying the same thing but in slightly different ways. I agree that the competitions are NOT rigged, like some other posters have implied. The producers may design certain competitions to give certain houseguests a slight advantage, but there's no way they could manipulate the outcome as it has been implied by some people in this thread.

Having said that, Will is definitelly throwing the comps. Not because the producers tell him (or maybe they do. who knows?)to do so, simply because that's Will's strategy. I heard about his strategy when he was on BB2. And, it's until now that I see how he operates. It is brilliant. He doesn't need the HOH because he's been able to orchestrate the evictions without taking the heat. I don't like Will's personality, but if he keeps it up, I want him to win it all. He deserves it.

Gotcha - Yep, we are on the same page of the book, our writing is just a little different.

Dr. Will is brilliant and he is going to catch alot of people with their pants down.

Just my opinion, (I know, here we go again), BUT -

there is very little chance that they rig the challenges. The logistical coordination necessary in setting up a POV challenge, a food challenge, an HOH challenge and possibly reward challenges each week is formidable enough to pull off on a predetermined schedule. Certainly doable, but pressure packed.

But to to hold the production meetings necessary to agree on a course of action (committees), then design, plan, schedule manpower to put together an event to favor a hamster who was nominated just a day or two before is too risky.

One chief goal of the production staff is to ensure that the events are ready on time, and that they seem professionally done, and that they seem polished, ingeneous, and Entertaining. To think that they would risk a professional production, 10s of millions of dollars (serious stuff) to favor a specific BB7 hamster, even a popular one, is not reasonable.

Additionally, to think that they would do to favor Chicken George? Well, as NB mentioned, it is tin foil hat time.

No doubt some BB7ers are more likely to do well in different types of challenges, but that's just the way it is. No challenge they could design would be perfectly neutral in that respect.

Hear Hear!

kingfish speaks the truth.
Not anywhere near the level as the production "staff" of a show like this but I do my own fair amount of game planning and I couldn't rig things if I tried.
People play the game at different levels from their own self every time they play.
There's no way I could make a contest that kingfish would be guranteed a win in. (Unless it was for lewd behavior or some off-color joke-a-thon. j/k)
It may seem to favor his normal talents but I couldn't be insured that someone else wouldn't want it more.

Kingfish is remarkably clear headed, especially considering the crab slaughter the other night.

Be Prepared!