I think that I have a true spoiler about LC... I think that shakes the clown (aka Mike) survives until at least the second episode...

Here's the evidence:

From Fox.com official website (under construction):

"Sixteen singles will set a course (hopefully) for love on a 10-day tropical cruise. The catch is, in the tradition of reality television, that the eight men and eight women will be on camera 24/7. Will warm breezes, umbrella drinks and eligible singles lead to a dream vacation? Tune in and find out! "

And from ew.com:

"Very few people get the opportunity to be rejected by eight women in the space of five minutes on national TV," says Michael, a 30-year-old Windy City lawyer, recalling his experience as one of the aforementioned forlorn bachelors. (The sad sacks ultimately did find companions, as the doubly chosen he-men had to give up one of their admirers.) "I'm used to that on a one-on-one basis in the bar, where you go back to your table and your friends make fun of you. But this is a whole new level of exposure."

"I was shocked to see the way that everyone floated from one person to another," says Michael. "Someone might be making out with someone on day one, and on day three they're having sex with someone else. There was quite a relay race going on."

Okay, now the interpretation:

According to Fox.com, this is a ten-day long cruise, during which 14 people will be voted out in pairs (at the end of each episode), leaving two winners... that means that there will be a total of seven episodes, each of which ends with two less contestants than it started with.

If it is a ten day cruise, that means that there are nine nights (and remember, the contestants must spend the night together)... that means that if each episode covers one night, there are two nights unaccounted for... most likely, these two extra nights will come at the end, while the final few singles try to make a real love connection (oops, wrong show)... in other words, the first few episodes will be one night each, meaning Episode one lasts from day one to two, episode two lasts from day two to three, and so on...

From the description of Michael in the ew.com article, we know that he is a windy city lawyer (and thus he MUST be shakes, who is a windy city lawyer that is appearing on LC)... we also know that Mike (BTW, shakes, do you prefer Mike or Michael???) has knowledge of what is happening on day three...

Thus, shakes the clown, who is Mike from Chicago, does NOT get kicked off in Episode one, IMO... I know he can't say anything, but I feel like I've pieced something together from absolutely nothing... quite proud of myself... Now I'm even more sure I'm gonna be wrong...

• good try, but one problem....,shakes the clown, 07:05 PM, 04-28-01
  • Damn....,sleeeve, 07:08 PM, 04-28-01
    • RE: Damn....,shakes the clown, 07:12 PM, 04-28-01
  • That's what the REAL Shakes the Clown Said Too... ,SkyRaider, 01:37 AM, 05-11-01
• RE: I've got a real Love Cruise Spoiler!!!,true, 10:30 PM, 04-28-01
  • RE: I've got a real Love Cruise Spoiler!!!,Minstrel, 03:02 AM, 04-29-01

....the description on the FOX website is quite inaccurate....which shows you something about FOX since they've had that same description up there since late August. Actually, the cruise is much longer than 10 days....if you last the entire time, you would have been on the boat for nearly three weeks. The third day is the day of the first dismissal hill/tribal council.

The time frame analysis won't work like it did with Survivor cause there are also a few union imposed days off in the mix as well as the possibility of rain days where events might have had to be held over for another day, thus extending the filming period

Nice try, but there's no way I'm gonna reveal a spoiler, not afer all of the experience I've gotten working for the other side during Surivor.....when I did that interview with EW I was quite conscious to not talk about anything that might disclose a clue as to how far or not far that I lasted.

Keep trying, but you'll never catch me.

And I thought that the official website would be accurate... especially since it hasn't even been designed yet...

oh well, back to the drawing board.

>And I thought that the official
>website would be accurate... especially
>since it hasn't even been
>designed yet...

...yeah, so did I which makes me even more worried about what FOX is gonna do to properly promote this show. As it stands, I honestly think I have done more to promote this show than FOX has, and that's pretty sad.

"Keep trying, but you'll never catch me."

Didn't John Wayne Gacy, the REAL Shakes the Clown
use that expression?

Both from Chicago, huh?

LAST EDITED ON 04-28-01 AT 10:37 PM (EST)

oops.... already covered

One thing I'm betting on, the ship does not catch fire!! (45 pellets). But is rejection by 8 women in 5 minutes a record or just common events in Chicago?