I don't know -- I'm not saying it's happening here, but when everyone expects you to lie all the time, you can really mess things up with a well-timed truth.

Ginger, sweets...Will was speaking to JAMES, not Janie.

You remember James, the member of Will's super secret alliance?

*grin*

>For all you Kaysar haters
>
>
>Later still James tells Howie:
>
>He says Will said Kaysar's move
>was brilliant.
>
>So I'm sure all the Kaysar
>haters will say Will is
>just blowing smoke, but it
>sure looks like James and
>Will have a pre-show agreement
>(see ginger's thread) so I
>would pretty much consider what
>those two to say behind
>closed doors to each other
>to be truth. Well,
>as much truth as the
>two best BB liars could
>tell.

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I don't know what all the quotes in your post prove except that Will is appealing to Kaysar's Achilles heel in calling his move "brilliant." There was nothing brilliant about it, but it's music to Kaysar's ears. Kaysar has an enormous ego (don't we all), and saying things like that is a guarantee for Will to stick around. Plus the fact I could quote from Dr. Will's confessionals where he constantly says anyone that doesn't nominate him is "stupid!"

Haven't you noticed Dr. Will's T-shirt? It says:

"I'm probably lying."

Doesn't that say it all?

Note to Dr. Will: You are one smart evil doctor. Remind me never to let you inject me with Botox when I'm in Florida ... I'd probably go in to get rid expression lines and be talked into joining a cult. However, I will let you take me out for a drink where I can hear all about what really goes on in that house.

LOL!!! I'm a Kaysar fan since last season, but I'm not blind. His strategy is absolutelly atrocious. If your enemy says "you're move is brilliant", but your allies say "you made a mistake", then that tells me that your strategy probably didn't help your personal interests or those of your allies. Why would someone like Will admit that Kaysar's move was brilliant, unless it were for Will's own advantage?

Kaysar's move was idiotic and he should be thankful that James won HOH this week. If anyone in Chilltown and their associates had HOH, Kaysar would be on the block with a high chance of being evicted. There's no doubt in mind about that. Kaysar wasted a week as HOH by not going after the one person who has consistenly and efficiently stirred the pot against the SOVs, and that person is WILL. Kaysar has made one of the dumbest moves in BB history.

Kay is not hard on the eyes - however he knows who the true power broker is - Will. Just as Howie clearly indicates he is obsessed with Will - K demonstrates this in a different manner. His weakness and of course that results in Will's success...

I don't know what all the quotes in your post prove except that Will is appealing to Kaysar's Achilles heel in calling his move "brilliant."

I disagree. As far as I can tell James has not repeated this conversation to Kaysar, and probably won't. From all indications James and Will have an understanding in this game to cover each other's backs. James repeating this conversation to Kaysar would not serve Jame's agenda. I can't imagine James wanting Kaysar and Will to be "on the same wavelength", wanting Kaysar to get confirmation from Will, via James, that Kaysar's plan is good. The worst that could happen for James is Will and Kaysar coming to an understanding. In fact, Boogie suggested to James that CT and S6 have a meeting and James shot that down immediately.

If Kaysar's plan to get rid of the floaters was so awful, then James is playing the same stupid game. He put up CG and Will, after securing enough votes to ensure CG is gone. Of course this could all change if the veto is used, but I can't imagine any of them taking CG off. If Will is taken off, the Boogie goes up. Will would work hard to keep Boogie in the house.

Chicken George will be evicted this week and the game will finally be on. The floaters will have to finally play. No matter who wins HOH this Thursday they are going to have to take a stand and choose sides.

In my humble little ole opinion, Kaysar's plan is working, and it is indeed brilliant.

>I disagree. As far as
>I can tell James has
>not repeated this conversation to
>Kaysar, and probably won't.

WHAT?!!!! You just quoted in your previous post that:

--------------

"Later still James tells Howie:

He says Will said Kaysar's move was brilliant. "

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So you're distinguishing between James telling Howie and James telling Kaysar? Like Howie has any type of impulse control and can stop the flood of blithering that flows from his big mouth? It would seem anyone would know that James telling Howie is absolutely ENSURING that Kaysar finds out about the remark - only it's much more strategical to tell Howie who then tells Kaysar. Even Kaysar would become a little suspicious if James said that directly to him.

================================

>From all indications James and
>Will have an understanding in
>this game to cover each
>other's backs. James repeating
>this conversation to Kaysar would
>not serve Jame's agenda.

Well, I'm not so sure for the reasons stated above. It depends what Jame's agenda is. If he's in an alliance with Danielle and Will, then it fits in beautifully. If not, then it may be because James wants to keep Will around for strategical purposes.

=================================

>If Kaysar's plan to get rid
>of the floaters was so
>awful, then James is playing
>the same stupid game.
>He put up CG and
>Will, after securing enough votes
>to ensure CG is gone.
> Of course this could
>all change if the veto
>is used, but I can't
>imagine any of them taking
>CG off. If Will
>is taken off, the Boogie
>goes up. Will would
>work hard to keep Boogie
>in the house.

Again, WHAT?!!!! Dr. Will is a floater? Dr. Will is a major player and someone that Janelle earmarked for Kaysar to pick (remember her saying if she won POV she'd shake up Kaysar's selections and take either Nakomis or Diane off the block so that one of Chill Town would be nominated?) And we don't know the game James is playing right now, so we'll all have to wait and see. Remember IF there is a James/Will/Danielle alliance this move would be brilliant as it reassures the Janelle/Kaysar/Howie team that James is still on their side. Remember how they - especially Janelle - were talking about how they weren't trusting James because he didn't hang out with them? So this move would obstensibly put distance between himself and the evil Dr. Will. It's not at all like Kaysar's move as it advances James agenda, whereas Kaysar's agenda wasn't advanced with who he nominated. Kaysar only alienated Diane. Now if she can just manage to take her tongue out of whatever man happens to be passing by long enough, she could do Kaysar some damage.

>
>Chicken George will be evicted this
>week and the game will
>finally be on.

We agree there. Think it's a lock, but the question is raised as to why James is so sure.
>
>
>In my humble little ole opinion,
>Kaysar's plan is working, and
>it is indeed brilliant.
>

Disagree here. Kaysar has lost the game. It's just like in chess, you make a bad move and you lose the game. It sometimes takes awhile for it to play out. That's what I think is going on here.

At least it's great watching and speculating. Lots of great players.

So you're distinguishing between James telling Howie and James telling Kaysar?

Yep. James telling Howie does not mean Howie will tell Kaysar. He might, but will Kaysar believe him? Or believe what James "supposedly" said? Who knows. Bottom line, Will said it to James when it was just the two of them in the room. You can take it as Will blowing smoke up James' ass, but I see it as a sincere conversation. Apparently you and I differ on this. *shrug*

Again, WHAT?!!!! Dr. Will is a floater?

Reread my post. I never said Dr. Will is a floater, and no one in the house has ever referred to Dr. Will as a floater. The floaters are Marcellus, Erika, Dani, CG, and Diane. The confirmed alliances are S7 and CT. CT is Boogie, Dr. Will, and Jase (Will pretty much confirmed Jase is with them).

We agree there. Think it's a lock, but the question is raised as to why James is so sure.

James promised S6, Diane, Jase, Dani, and Boogie that he was not putting them up. He told Dani he was not putting up Marcellus. That only leaves CG, Will, and Erika to go up. James told Will that the only way Will would go up is if James secured enough votes to KEEP Will and EVICT CG. In speaking to almost everyone he confirmed that CG would go if the nominations stood. Dani is the only one who said she would definitely vote to keep CG because she promised him she would not evict him.

Disagree here. Kaysar has lost the game.

I don't think Kaysar had a snowball's chance in hell of winning this game even BEFORE he got HOH. I really don't see anyone from S6 winning, except for maybe James, but only because he has a second alliance with Dani and Will. The whole house has been gunning for S6 from the second they walked in the door, and the odds of any of them getting to the final two are slim to none. I'm impressed that not one of them have been on the block yet. You have to figure it was 10 vs 4 from the beginning. Pretty bad odds if you ask me. It's down to 8 vs 4 right now, and after Thursday's eviction it will be 7 vs 4. Part of this is luck--getting HOH all three weeks--but part of it is game play, and Kaysar is a major part of S6's plans. I know you disagree with me, but that's my opinion.

With CG gone, the game finally begins. Kaysar knows that.
Will knows that. James knows. Getting rid of the floaters makes for a great game. I can't wait.

Kaysar's plan is foolish and here is why. Only one person can win BB. So instead of trying to "force" people to play; a good strategist would be setting up the best possible situation to be the last man standing.

James, Jase, Diane, Dani, and Will all seem to be playing the game just fine. The number one reason why I include Diane in this group is because she has an alliance with Jase that noone realized til Dani pointed it out. Dani is included because she noticed the Jase/Diane alliance and let everybody in on it. Plus, Dani doesn't have a side she is laying low but she still talks to everyone and knows what is going on from both sides. Also, she was the first person to stir the pot and create some drama in the house. Jase and James are playing all sides. Will is definitely creating a spot for himself so that he will have staying power in the long run.

Kaysar should only be worried about his game play not the game play of the supposed floaters. S6 had the perfect opportunity to rule the game but they are slowly losing that power. They are not a tight knit alliance and I think Howie and definitely James would turn on Kaysar and Janelle in a hot second if it would benefit them.

Will played the game right by rallying the troops against S6 when he didn't get nominated. Thus, he won't have to keep his "word" to Kaysar because he is turning everybody else against Kaysar. So as soon as somebody other than S6 wins HOH Kaysar is out of there.

Nobody has really grabbed the bull by the horns and took charge of this game. Everybody is waiting for everybody else to make a move. CG is someone who will vote anyway you want him to. He won't win challenges so you can get rid of him whenever you want to. If CG gets nominated it will be another nomination of convenience and not good game play. They are all scared of each other and that is what this supposed plan is based on.

Brilliant plan...anything but.

>>Kaysar's plan is foolish and here is why. Only one person
can win BB. So instead of trying to "force" people to play; a good strategist would be setting up the best possible situation to be the last man standing.>>
<snip>
>>Kaysar should only be worried about his game play not the
game play of the supposed floaters. S6 had the perfect
opportunity to rule the game but they are slowly losing
that power....Will played the game right by rallying the troops against S6 when he didn't get nominated. Thus, he won't have to keep his "word" to Kaysar because he is turning everybody
else against Kaysar. So as soon as somebody other than S6 wins HOH Kaysar is out of there.>>

I (and my wife)agree. I wanted to crawl into the TV and grab Kaysar by the ears when he was making his deal with Chilltown. They were on the ropes for crying out loud. And I think Will now has renewed confidence, not false bravado, that he can take this thing all the way. And that's not good for anyone else.

One needs to identify the strongest opposition and take them out before they can exercise that strength. The so-called floaters can be taken out at any time. HUGE mistake by Kaysar.

For the life of me, I don't understand how you guys bash Kayser's nominations and there is no bashing of James choices.

Kayser nominated two people that were actually threats to win the game. James on the other had nominated one that everyone knows will not win the game (CG) and the other had no chance either (Will). His goal is to get rid of Chicken George. Why? His nominations were a waste. You should be getting rid of the players.

James on the
>other had nominated one that
>everyone knows will not win
>the game (CG) and the
>other had no chance either
>(Will).

...what is the saying, fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me? With that in mind it amazes me how anyone with half a brain who has seen this show before can honestly sit there and say that Will has no chance of winning.

I guess history really does repeat itself.

After all the guy is only the greatest contestant in not just BB history but all reality shows ever made so of course there is no way he can win a game with such stellar players as Kaysar, Howie, Danielle etc (/rolls eyes)

Shakes,

I so agree with you. Will has an awesome chance. They are all really falling for the "I want to leave" bit.
He can outstragize the S6 with hands behind back.

Well, the reason I say Will stands no chance is because he is a previous winner. As Survivor showed former contestents just won't let a previous winner win. They hold the fact that they won before against them. Why do you think he is nominated now?

I do think what Will is doing is genius. He knew right of the bat that they would be gunning for him so he makes it appear like he thinks it is stupid that he is there and repeatedly asks to leave. The HOH's look elsewhere. You don't think they will figure this out sooner rather than later? Boogie is along with it. He is like Will pleaase don't leave.....Will says ok I want to stay when he is nominated....then soon as that is done....Will will ask to go home after while. It will where thin where someone will eventually get him out.

He really stands no chance, but is his only resort.

>Well, the reason I say Will
>stands no chance is because
>he is a previous winner.
> As Survivor showed former
>contestents just won't let a
>previous winner win. They
>hold the fact that they
>won before against them.
>Why do you think he
>is nominated now?

...please show me ANY proof from the live feed transcripts that show that this is the reason he was nominated? I haven't heard or read it even mentioned ONE time that the other contestants are gunning for him b/c he is a previous winner. Do you have access to feeds that the rest of us don't?

And you can't compare Survivor to Big Brother. Survivor is like the majors, the big leagues whereas Big Brother is like high school JV in comparison.

The HOH's
>look elsewhere. You don't
>think they will figure this
>out sooner rather than later?

...no, not really. Nothing that these people have done now or in the past give me any indication that they are smart enough to figure this out. And you got the saying wrong, according to BB English, its "sooner than later", not "sooner, rather than later"

>>For the life of me, I don't understand how you guys bash Kayser's nominations and there is no bashing of James choices.<<

Largely because these comments were written prior to Sunday night's show.

I don't understand James' nomination of CG, now a moot point, and the feeling on the part of many players that they must 'force the floaters to take a position.' If they're 'floaters', then they can be manipulated vs those who have strong alliances (or as strong as they get in these things).

In *any* fight -- physical, business, sport, reality shows -- one should deal with one's perceived strongest competitors as early and decisively as possible. The weaker competitors can be dealt with almost at leisure.

Most of us understand this simple principle of competition, but Kaysar apparently has a different and extremelly warped sense of reality, in which you need to preserve your worst enemy as long as possible. WTF???

If Kaysar had taken out half of Chilltown last week and James taking out Jase this week, then they would have dealt a devastating blow to both Chilltown and Mr & Mrs Smith. But, since both of them are morons and cowards, they decide to target the floaters. Absolutelly ridiculous! Thank goodness Chicken George won the veto. Let's just hope that Jase is the one that actually gets evicted tomorrow.

I found this on YouTube, for anyone who didn't see Marci not use the Veto back in season 3

http://youtube.com/watch?v=RbIwBTR_Gzg&search=aldav%20bb7%20big%20brother

Marcellas definitley because he had it in his hand 100% for sure.

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