LAST EDITED ON 11-14-15 AT 08:10 AM (EST)

Below is an update of the table of links that lead (in chronological order), first to the post by Duhhh containing the List, and then to the subsequent posts by Antithesys. And I believe that I've found and linked all of the Moderator's posts regarding the List - to date. Note: If you don't want to be exposed to the BootList, don't click that first link!

Too, I've reprinted the List in the box that appears beneath the table. However, because we have posters for whom a BootList is one Source Spoiler too far, you will have to use your cursor to highlight the area in order to reveal the text. Request: Lists are eye-catching. And if/when other Spoilers are added to this thread, it is very possible that those posters who don't wish to be made aware of the contents of any BootList may scroll through this discussion on their way to another. So I would ask that this Boot Order not be reproduced - as a List - in any response to this entry unless it is also hidden by the use of the Font Color #DDDDDD.

The Posts

Duhhh - September 28th	Antithesys - October 14th	Antithesys - October 15th	Antithesys - October 16th	Antithesys - October 16th	Antithesys - October 16th
Antithesys - October 16th	Antithesys - October 16th	Antithesys - October 18th	Antithesys - October 19th	Antithesys - October 19th	Antithesys – October 21st
Antithesys - November 2nd	Antithesys - November 13th

The List

PreJury (in order) Vytas Shirin PeihGee Jeff Monica Terry (evac) Woo Jury (close to order) Kass Stephen Kelly Ciera Andrew Joe Keith Abi (fv) Kimmi (fv) Kelley (fv) Final 3 Tasha Spencer Jeremy

G - thanks for linking all Anti's statements. Its hard work wading through the Sucks sludge!

Well, so long as the 'little guy in the left column' doesn't change his avatar, we're just fine. Because I absolutely refuse to actually read through the garbage. Should a single, four-letter word be erased from the English language, I sometimes wonder how many of the posters there could manage to form a three-word sentence ...

I do, though, enjoy - and appreciate - the threads within MESS.

G

LAST EDITED ON 11-22-15 AT 11:54 AM (EST)

I suppose.

However, it would appear that the Devil could do with a better lawyer. Because, beginning with the Tuk Tuk Alliance/Voting Bloc that wasn't, I couldn't have been more wrong about Episode Nine. I will say, though, that when I first looked at the composition of this Cast in the Spring, I felt strongly that broad, traditional alliances would be impossible to maintain in Cambodia. And that had nothing to do with some sort of prescient vision of an Evolution of the Game. Instead, it was an opinion based upon the fact that there would be too few players in the Game for whom cumbersome hierarchal - strategic - social arrangements are a preferred working relationship and too many for whom smaller, more egalitarian - tactical - partnerships (or Voting Blocs) are more comfortable.

So, it is also my opinion that JP's Evolution is nonsense. He has merely slapped a come-hither label on a brand of play (and Season) that we've seen many times before. But, given that S32 has already been played to its conclusion - and that the Series tends to cyclical casting patterns - I have to think that we may see a very similar Season begin next January. Our host would, after all, look a little silly if his Evolution began and ended with Second Chances. Unless, of course, he plans to slap a - The Season You Are Now Watching Was Filmed Prior to the Evolution! - disclaimer across the opening credits of every one of S32's Episodes. Anyway ...

The BootList and The Blocs:

Although I certainly wouldn't award him $1,00,000 for the performance, I would crown Stephen the Season's Master Charlatan for Wednesday evening's absurdly successful Smoke and Mirrors Exhibition.

Of course, even if Stephen had won the day by touting any one or more of the many advantages of compact alliances (Voting Blocs) vis a vis more complex and demanding hierarchal structures - for instance, the fact that ultimately facing a Jury principally composed of bested collaborators is far preferable to facing one principally composed of betrayed confidants - the performance, given his audience, would have been impressive. As it would have been if he had been able to make a cogent argument that Kelly's boot would in some way be more strategically or tactically sound than would be Ciera's or Kelley's.

But instead, with a pitch consisting primarily of illogic obscured by inanity made 1) to a player naturally drawn to large, protective hierarchal alliances and believed (by himself and others) to be a masterful student of the Game and 2) to a highly independent and entrepreneurial player who had already assembled a loosely-allied - about to be at risk - complement of partnerships capable of fielding an 8-of-11 Majority Voting Bloc, Stephen managed to persuade both to adopt a scheme that had only one - glaringly transparent and exclusive - benefit. It was conceived, brokered and consummated by him.

An amazing achievement that begs the question of if and when Jeremy became aware that Stephen was not playing for Second Place.

And now that Voting Blocs have - officially - become Cambodia's stratégie du jour, if we assume that the BootList is back on track (and that Andrew and Stephen were confused/intentionally switched by its author and/or source) it would appear that constructing a coherent narrative to explain its trail from Kelly to Ciera to Stephen to ... the Final Three will be even more interesting. And challenging.

But, here are some scattered bits and pieces that come to mind:

Stephen and Jeremy have recently used social media to affirm a lifelong friendship. And Stephen, following Savage's boot, publicly ridiculed the BootList … and Spoilers.

Pepe has noted in the Press thread that, in her RTVW interview, Kelly spoke about conferences between Kelley and Jeremy that began occurring only after she played her Idol.

Jeremy has two Idols. Stephen has a - buried in the mud - Advantage.

A poster purportedly created by a local pizza parlor to advertise a December 2nd Viewing Party with Kelley Wentworth - to cheer her on - has appeared at Survivor Sucks.

The - current - Voting Blocs: Joe and Keith, Spencer, Stephen and Jeremy, Ciera, Kelley and Abi-Maria. Leaving Tasha and Kimmi ... where?

The last two players to speak at the F11 Tribal Council were Tasha and Spencer. Both emphasized the importance of trust in the Game. However, Tasha forcefully declared that - At the end of the day, the Voting Bloc with the strongest alliance will dominate the Game. While Spencer concluded the evening’s conversation by doubling-down on the trust theme.

We’ve seen an Episode 10 VidCap of a beach conversation attended by Spencer, Joe, Tasha and Jeremy … in frame.

And then there is the CBS tease that Episode 11 will feature another daring move. But there is no similar drama attached to Episode 10.

So although getting from Kelly to Ciera doesn’t appear all that difficult, given the current state of affairs, I don’t see how Stephen leaves the Game at F9.

I am, however, all ears. And I still think that a Fire native wins the Game ...

LAST EDITED ON 11-22-15 AT 06:02 PM (EST)

Assuming that Savage's and Stephen's positions in the BootList were switched and that the remaining order is accurate, then presumably:

The November 25th Episodes will see Ciera and Stephen booted.

The December 2nd Episode will see the double-boot of Joe and Keith. So, for Kelley to host a Viewing Party on that evening would make perfect sense. Particularly if she and Abi-Maria were instrumental in their departure.

The December 9th Episode will contain the Family Visit and Abi-Maria's boot.

The December 16th Finale will begin with Tasha, Kimmi, Spencer, Kelley, and Jeremy still in the Game.

The questions:

1. CBS would not place a double-boot in the same Episode as the Family Visit, would they?

2. According to those of you who know these things, Kelley's edit thus far has been sterling. But, I wonder if it might be compared to that of Cirie in Micronesia (which, in retrospect, was designed - at least in part - to leave us feeling more than a little cheated). Because, of Cambodia's cast members, I would think that Kelley, Joe, Ciera and Jeremy would be the most likely to be invited to play the Game a third time. ETA: Or, since that possibility also seems to be floating about, perhaps Kelley's edit is meant - at least in part - to encourage the audience to fall in love with a Final 4. And in that case, would the BootList be wrong? ...

I just *urp'd-up* a little in my throat at the thought of a Final 4, voting situation. I guess not completely out of the realm of possibility but... playing for F4 is a world away from playing for F3 (which is in itself a world away from playing for F2).
I'd say, regardless of Kelley making 5th or 4th, her showing is spectacular and completely worthy of one whom makes the final episode aka F5. And probably gets asked back at some future date.

I don't think that they would do a Final Four. At least, I sure hope not. And I think that the rumor can probably be traced back to a misunderstanding of Savage's comment in several of his exit interviews that - (he) always thought of a Final 4 (of himself, Jeremy, Tasha and Joe) rather than of a Final 3. I've seen a reference to Savage's slip-up in several of the posts at SS regarding the possibility of a Final 4. But, I've seen it frequently enough that I thought I should bring it up.

Of course, the fact that there has never before been a merge at F13 is also consistently cited in support of the notion.

But, I just can't imagine that Survivor's producers would create a scenario that contains the possibility that we could have a Sole Survivor who received no more than three votes!

As for Kelley (you Air natives do stick together, don't you!) ...

I'll just plead advanced age and say that I really didn't care for what seemed to me to be a regrettable lack of respect for her father during San Juan del Sur. Or for her obvious glee at the thought of kicking Terry and then Savage - men her father's age - under the bus. So, from my vantage point, Kelley is quite the little brat.

But, even I have to concede that she is a little brat who seems to be playing the Game very well. And, given that, I suppose that I could live with her return. Or, even with her win this Season (in the event that this BootList proves to be, ultimately, a fraud).

And, I'm already completely content with Cambodia, anyway. I've watched Survivor for fifteen years to see something so much fun - and so spontaneously joyful - as Keith, his Tuk Tuk, and his passengers. And I don't think that any other piece of the Game will ever top it ...

And (just for emphasis): I loved your SOTS!

G

Thank You!

Watch for 'ol Keith to reappear in these pages soon ...

LAST EDITED ON 11-27-15 AT 12:34 PM (EST)

On Wednesday (November 25th) Redmond / Martin Holmes reaffirmed (via Twitter) a Final Three, no Medevacs and said that the Finale will begin with six players.

So, assuming that the List and Redmond continue to be accurate:

The December 2nd Episode will contain the Family Visit and Joe's boot.

The December 9th Episode will see Keith leave for the Jury.

The December 16th Finale will begin with Abi-Maria, Kimmi, Kelley, Tasha, Spencer and Jeremy still in the Game.

LAST EDITED ON 12-09-15 AT 11:51 PM (EST)

Below is an updated table of links that lead (in chronological order), first to the post by Duhhh containing the List, and then to the subsequent posts by Antithesys. And I believe that I've found and linked all of the Moderator's posts regarding the List - to date. Note: If you don't want to be exposed to the BootList, don't click that first link!

Too, I've reprinted the List in the box that appears beneath the table. However, because we have posters for whom a BootList is one Source Spoiler too far, you will have to use your cursor to highlight the area in order to reveal the text. Request: Lists are eye-catching. And if/when other Spoilers are added to this thread, it is very possible that those posters who don't wish to be made aware of the contents of any BootList may scroll through this discussion on their way to another. So I would ask that this Boot Order not be reproduced - as a List - in any response to this entry unless it is also hidden by the use of the Font Color #DDDDDD.

The Posts

Duhhh - September 28th	Antithesys - October 14th	Antithesys - October 15th	Antithesys - October 16th	Antithesys - October 16th	Antithesys - October 16th
Antithesys - October 16th	Antithesys - October 16th	Antithesys - October 18th	Antithesys - October 19th	Antithesys - October 19th	Antithesys – October 21st
Antithesys - November 2nd	Antithesys – November 13th	Antithesys - November 29th	Antithesys - November 30th	Antithesys - December 4th	Antithesys - December 9th

The List

PreJury (in order) Vytas Shirin PeihGee Jeff Monica Terry (evac) Woo Jury (close to order) Kass Stephen Kelly Ciera Andrew Joe Keith Abi (fv) Kimmi (fv) Kelley (fv) Final 3 Tasha Spencer Jeremy

LAST EDITED ON 12-17-15 AT 12:55 PM (EST)

Below is the latest comment posted by Antithesys (at SS) regarding the BootList ...

So, the saga continues?

Thanks for keeping us up-to-date on the saga Anti's posts!

LAST EDITED ON 12-18-15 AT 00:20 AM (EST)

I don't think that it will be long now!

Anti seems to be a man with a secret that
he's dying to tell ...

i got that feeling too!

LAST EDITED ON 12-06-15 AT 03:16 PM (EST)

In FP's Episode 7 ... Thread, I was pretty emphatic regarding Tasha's loyalty to the F3 pact made with Jeremy and Spencer ...

Squid: Then the big showdown could be at F6. The women will think they're up 4-2, but Tasha could vote with J/S then if it's in her best interest. Maybe that's why the finale starts at 6? More dramatic.

I think that you're probably very right. And I think that Tasha will remain loyal to her F3 committment. Tasha loves to bear witness to her own obvious superiority. So, appearing before the Jury is important to her. And she is 4th - rather than 3rd - on the other totem pole.

And I think that this is where we will see Jeremy play his second HII for himself or for Spencer. For several reasons.

Among them:

At F6 a tied TC vote can well end in drawing rocks. And that isn't a pleasant prospect when you're one of only four who will do the drawing.

But, I've since been thinking more about her Confessional following Kelly's boot when she virtually dared Jeremy and Spencer (and Stephen) to ever leave her out of the loop again and (Tasha fan) Savage's (reported) comment that this Season's winner would be a very good (great) ambasssador for Survivor. And, given that there are many ways that Tasha could reach F3 other than via an alliance with the two men, I wonder if anyone thinks that the Confessional might have been a bit of foreshadowing yet to bear fruit?

And I've brought the thought here just in case anyone wishes to reference the BootList in discussion.

Interesting. Thanks -- I have not seen Savage's comment, but I think that any one of Spencer, Jeremy and Tasha would make a great Ambassador for Survivor. In fact, if they are indeed the F3 or some combo with Kelley, I think it will be one of the most epic F3s in a long time. Nice to see no goats!

I agree that Tasha's confessional could bear fruit, IF Spence and Jeremy leave her out of the loop again. There is also Jiffy's pre-game comment about Tasha being devilish (or something to that effect), and I don't think we've seen that yet, have we? Although maybe playing both sides and flipping on the women's alliance (or S/J) at the end game is her big devilish move. Clearly Abi, Kelley, Ciera and Kass will be out for blood and ripping Tasha to shreds if she ends up on the jury after blowing off the ladies.

I'm stilling hoping that the boot list or F3 will be a little wrong, just because I like surprises. It was wrong on the family visit and threw us a surprise with Savage and Stephen, so perhaps it will happen again.

LAST EDITED ON 12-17-15 AT 02:07 AM (EST)

I have not seen Savage's comment, but I think that any one of Spencer, Jeremy and Tasha would make a great Ambassador for Survivor. In fact, if they are indeed the F3 or some combo with Kelley, I think it will be one of the most epic F3s in a long time. Nice to see no goats!

I read the comment by Savage at SS. And, I beleive the post actually included a link (which surprised me). But I didn't save that link and now I can't find the post. However, it struck me at the time that Savage would think that any one of the three would be a great Ambassador for Survivor. So it was fun to read your remark. And although I wouldn't disagree with you (or Savage), I must admit that I'm really disappointed with the three. That is, however, strictly a matter of my age (my children are both now in their fifties ... ). And I so wanted a Final Three drawn from the Season's roster of older players: Terry, Savage, Kelly, Kimmi, Kass, Keith, Varner ... Peih-Gee. And Stephen. Who was born old.

I agree that Tasha's confessional could bear fruit, IF Spence and Jeremy leave her out of the loop again. There is also Jiffy's pre-game comment about Tasha being devilish (or something to that effect), and I don't think we've seen that yet, have we? Although maybe playing both sides and flipping on the women's alliance (or S/J) at the end game is her big devilish move. Clearly Abi, Kelley, Ciera and Kass will be out for blood and ripping Tasha to shreds if she ends up on the jury after blowing off the ladies.

Primarily because she is a member of the Season's natural minority and - statistically - that fact alone makes winning the Game almost impossible, I don't think that Savage's comment is any sort of revelation. Even if he was thinking of Tasha, it is more than a little possible that Savage wasn't all that in tune with the majority of his fellow Jurors. But, I do attribute to Savage an ability to recognize good form when he sees it. So, if she was able to overcome her dismaying tendency to revert to a very queer sort of patronizing posturing before an audience, I think that we may be surprised with the quality of Tasha's performance before the Jury. If she keeps her wits about her, I don't think that she will shred easily.

And she will have, I think, a decent narrative:

She will be the lone surviving woman who wouldn't be sitting in front of them if she hadn't chosen to flip on her peers. And she will be sitting in front of them with two men who, without that flip and her strategy, might well be questioning Kimmi, Abi-Maria and Kelley. In fact, I would, if I were Tasha, argue that throughout the entire Game, no-one saved Tasha but Tasha. Reference: Angkor.

And, if I were a member of Cambodia's Jury, I would certainly vote for her rather than for Spencer. But, that's me. And that's assuming that this List remains accurate.

As for Jeff's reference to 'devilish':

I have no idea what it might mean. Beyond the fact - that she doesn't mind advertising - that Tasha can be very vindictive.

As for 'out of the loop':

You know, if the List is accurate, the upcoming vote that ousts Keith from the Game is going to be interesting. For instance: I wonder who Jeremy and Spencer will vote for? And if it might be possible that one or both cast their vote(s) for one of the women in order to assure Keith's vote at Final Tribal Council and/or keep the fallout from the boot of - arguably - the Game's most well-liked player at arm's length? Without telling Tasha of his/their plan?

Because, even though Tasha could never think that she was in the running for that vote, I think that being out of that loop would rattle her nonetheless.

I'm stilling hoping that the boot list or F3 will be a little wrong, just because I like surprises. It was wrong on the family visit and threw us a surprise with Savage and Stephen, so perhaps it will happen again.

I do too. Like surprises and hope that the List is a little (or even a lot) wrong. So, even though I promised myself that I wouldn't go down that impossible road, I keep trying to imagine who made it public. In order to explore what they might yet have in store for us.

For instance:

I'd still like to see Abi-Maria in front of the Jury. Because she has a fairly fat narrative to offer too and it would be so much fun to hear her present her list of accomplishments and grievances ... and grievances ... and grievances ...

I'd still like to see Abi-Maria in front of the Jury. Because she has a fairly fat narrative to offer too and it would be so much fun to hear her present her list of accomplishments and grievances ... and grievances ... and grievances ...

Ooofff... I shiver at the thought of any scenario with Abi in the finals... but imagine an Abi, Keith and Kimmi finale.
THAT would definitely be the worst.
I may peel my skin off, fry it up, eat it and pass out from disgust. (hehe, soo dramatic)

Yet, I'd still be happy for the "bootlist" to be wrong.

Related to Abi's shenanigans, Redmond on Inside Survivor has some funny tidbits that weren't shown at the last TC. Apparently Joe and Abi were really going at each other, and Joe told Abi that no one liked her and tried to give her advice on how to improve her game. Abi replied, "Why would I take advice from a 26 year old who sleeps on his parents' couch?" and everyone lost it. This is the kind of stuff I wish they'd show more of, ha! Anyway, it helps explain why she called him a clown when she voted.

The other interesting tidbit was that Joe's dad was going around lobbying people not to vote Joe out while on reward and that turned people off.

Here's a link the full article:
http://insidesurvivor.com/2015/12/survivor-second-chance-episode-12-what-you-didnt-see/

Spencer, Jeremy and Tasha would make a great Ambassador for Survivor. In fact, if they are indeed the F3 or some combo with Kelley, I think it will be one of the most epic F3s in a long time. Nice to see no goats!
I agree completely. A little bit less so with Tasha, but I get it. From the very beginning she's been promising exactly what she came there to deliver and performing exactly as such. While I don't hope it gets her the new title and she will certainly have some repenting when she gets home, her inclusion in the final is ... foreseeable.

I agree that Tasha's confessional could bear fruit, IF Spence and Jeremy leave her out of the loop again. There is also Jiffy's pre-game comment about Tasha being devilish (or something to that effect), and I don't think we've seen that yet, have we? Although maybe playing both sides and flipping on the women's alliance (or S/J) at the end game is her big devilish move. Clearly Abi, Kelley, Ciera and Kass will be out for blood and ripping Tasha to shreds if she ends up on the jury after blowing off the ladies.
Ditto that too. Near end game Tasha stays true to her guys and buys her way into an F3 Vs F4.
T'is why she most likely loses to either of Jeremy or Spencer.

I'm stilling hoping that the boot list or F3 will be a little wrong, just because I like surprises. It was wrong on the family visit and threw us a surprise with Savage and Stephen, so perhaps it will happen again.
Me too!!! Like trading Tasha for Kelley. Now THAT is an epic F3!
However, I can see both Jeremy and Spencer (and Tahsa) wanting to boot Kelley at F4 (if not sooner).

***************Or is Tasha the goat?

BTW, Squid...
Happy holiday season... (even though it isn't seasonal, and moreso antiquish but, it is lighted.)

> Like trading Tasha for
>Kelley. Now THAT is an
>epic F3!

Totally agree! Kelley, Spencer and Jeremy would be my dream F3 this season.

>BTW, Squid...
>Happy holiday season... (even though it
>isn't seasonal, and moreso antiquish
>but, it is lighted.)
>

So cool!!! Love how it lights up. Thanks so much, Tribe! Now I just need my teenage son to help me figure out how to use it. Although he will be mad at me because I stole his gamer nickname.

LAST EDITED ON 12-09-15 AT 01:49 AM (EST)

Could this be the Episode where we all get our wish and the BootList is a little wrong ... again?

Because, the title is almost certainly an Abi-Maria quote. And there are three solitary (portrait) shots of her (two following the RC and one following the IC) in the Press Images and none of Keith (although he is centered between Abi-Maria and Tasha in one of the Images).

Too, the beach shot of Spencer, Kelley and Abi-Maria - and Keith's leg and arm - Post-IC/Pre-TC (the women have their bags) leaves just enough to the imagination to suggest that perhaps Keith could be wearing the IN.

But then I have a lot of imagination ...

I'm with you. I'm having a hard time picturing that it would be Keith or Abi, though. Regardless of what Tasha does, wouldn't the women target the threats to win (which, at this point, is more important than challenge threats), so Jeremy or Spencer? And if Jeremy uses his idol, wouldn't the men target the biggest threat to win or the person leading the women's alliance charge (so Kelley or Kimmi)?
Based on what it seems the players SHOULD do, Keith and Abi should be safe, yet I agree they are the most likely boots according to spoilers and storytelling.

I agree, this would be a great week for the boot list to be wrong!

Just based on the press photos and vidcaps, though, it seems like Jeremy and Spencer (or possibly Kelley) are most likely to win IC. Georganna, I don't see the immunity necklace on Keith in that beach shot with Spencer, Kelley and Abi, but maybe I'm missing it.

I know we've all thought the title is definitely Abi, and it most likely is about her, but I was just thinking it could also be someone "new" who's trying on the villain role for the first time. E.g., Tasha playing both sides (which would tie back to Jeff's devil comment and her Ep1 opening confessional about asking for forgiveness later) or even Kelley or Spencer.

Seems like we don't have much to go on this week. It could go so many different ways -- can't wait!

LAST EDITED ON 12-09-15 AT 03:32 PM (EST)

Georganna, I don't see the immunity necklace on Keith in that beach shot with Spencer, Kelley and Abi, but maybe I'm missing it.

I don't see the IN there either, Squid. I just mentioned that the photo was cropped in a manner that could suggest to the imaginative that the IN is there. Not that it is. There ...

Got it!

It definitely is weird cropping. Wonder if Keith just happens upon S/K/A scheming, or if they're literally trying to tell us he gets cut out.

Thank you for posting your ideas. Because I've been back and forth repeatedly this week. But, I think that I've settled on ... Keith.

I do think that - in order to set up the Finale - no matter how the Episode plays out (and there are just too many loose ends yet to be - editorially - tied to know what will happen), this will be the Episode in which we are meant to be persuaded that Tasha has a viable opportunity to win the Game.

And perhaps it will be as simple as Keith attempting to flip to the guys - a move that Tasha would not welcome - that prompts the entire group to vote him out.

Or, perhaps it is Abi-Maria who is once again the swing vote. In the portrait of her in the chair, it looks as though she has struck her Woe is me! I have such an important decision to make! pose.

LAST EDITED ON 12-10-15 AT 00:04 AM (EST)

Please disregard the contents of this Post and refer, instead, to Post #30 ...

... Tuk-Tukin' On!

You were right, Georganna!!! Should have trusted your gut.

I love that the boot list was wrong and hope it means it'll be wrong again…..although it sure seems like this was finally Keith's swan song.

P.S. What did you make of Jeremy's comment asking if Abi is a Scorpio??? I immediately thought of you when he said it and thought it was hilarious. On his twitter he says his wife and daughter are both Scorpios.

After thinking about it a little more, though, I found it a little off-putting for J's edit, mainly because he was dis'ing his family….and then his "that's why I drink" and dating comments that followed seemed non-hero-like vs. Jeremy's typical pro-family and winner edit. But I'm probably overanalyzing it!

LAST EDITED ON 12-12-15 AT 11:23 PM (EST)

P.S. What did you make of Jeremy's comment asking if Abi is a Scorpio??? I immediately thought of you when he said it and thought it was hilarious. On his twitter he says his wife and daughter are both Scorpios.

After thinking about it a little more, though, I found it a little off-putting for J's edit, mainly because he was dis'ing his family….and then his "that's why I drink" and dating comments that followed seemed non-hero-like vs. Jeremy's typical pro-family and winner edit. But I'm probably overanalyzing it!

Of course, I always love it when players refer to their own or a tribemate's Sun Sign. And I think that even most Scorpio would admit that their personality is ... complicated. So, for a definitely uncomplicated Aries, life with two Scorpio in the house would be fascinating and challenging.

And, in fact, Jeremy wasn't far wrong about Abi-Maria. Her birthday is October 21st. So, although she is a Libra, she was born within the Libra | Scorpio Cusp. And it would seem that a number of Astrologers attach a great deal of significance to that circumstance. Some to the degree that they seem to suggest that persons born within Cusps exhibit a - third - core personality that is distinct from either of the two contributing Sun Signs.

All of that is, however, far too involved and confusing for me. So ...

I also thought that the whole Confessional was hilarious. And refreshingly candid.

And very humanizing.

Because, to that point, Jeremy (and, by extension, his family) had, I think, seemed to be almost too perfect. Now I think that we feel we know a man and a family more like our own not-always-heroic or saintly husbands and wives and daughters and sons.

In short, for the first time I really liked a suddenly personable and engaging Jeremy. And, had I not watched the San Juan del Sur Season, I think that I would have been persuaded to like - or, at least, to be intrigued by - Valesay. However, she is one of the very few Scorpio women who've played the Game that I do not admire.

But, I don't know if my reaction - or your own - is the one that the edit was intended to evoke. If I were betting, though, I would probably put my money on yours. I have a bad habit of being on the wrong side of the editorial tracks most of the time.

Note: I read a bit of Jeremy's Twitter today and was amused to see that not only Kass but Francesca - one of my very favorite Scorpio players - took him to task. Fun ...