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"S31 | VidCap Analysis | Ep. 04 *no sources* "
Posted by Flowerpower1 on 10-08-15 at 12:12 PM
Please place all vidcaps associated with Episode 4, What's the Beef, in this thread. NO sourced spoilers allowed.
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"Press Images"
Posted by Rembrandt on 10-08-15 at 12:48 PM








































"RE: Press Images"
Posted by Flowerpower1 on 10-08-15 at 01:41 PM
LAST EDITED ON 10-09-15 AT 08:09 AM (EST)

Thanks for posting Rembrandt! I will try to put them in some kind of order prior to Sheldor's time stamps:

First two tribes arrive:

Last tribe arrives, Angkor:

See Pei-Gee voted out.

3 Tribes on the mats at the beginning area:


All tribes pick someone to do the entire challenge for them. Must run out to collect a weighted bag, and then run it back, place it on a plank, jump on the plank to get the weighted bag in the basket. First to get all three = winner.

On Jiffy's GO:



They are neck to neck at the beginning, then here they are running to collect the first of 3 bags:


Returning with first bag:


I think this is coming back with the first bag, they are still pretty darn close...

Terry way out in front bringing back his second bag, Jeremy in second bringing back his second bag, and Andrew retrieving his second bag (middle bag).

Here we see Andrew in the LEAD, Terry second, going to retrieve their last and final bag, while Jeremy is well behind and hasn't gotten his second bag in the basket yet.

Andrew returning with his last bag, Jeremy has made up some time and gotten to his last and final bag. (Jeremy looks spent)

Terry jumping:

Andrew adjusting for final jump? Note Jiffy's positioning:


Pissed off losers....see the mat is located behind the structures, whereas the mats were placed at the shore line at the start of the challenge...

Prediction: Angkor wins the RC. Savage strikes again!

Then we have camp shots at nuBayon and Angkor. Prediction: One of them is our IC loser. Early prediction is that it's nuBayon that loses? We'll have to wait for time stamps!

"RE: Press Images"
Posted by Rembrandt on 10-08-15 at 02:40 PM
Judging by those shots above at camp. NuBayon seems happy and smiling, but NuAngkor doesn't seem that way.

If I had to guess its that NuAngkor loses IC or that was before the immunity challenge.

I just wonder why they haven't shown NuTa'Keo at camp on the press images.

Maybe NuBayon and NuAngkor images at camp was before the challenge.

But I think we are just going to have to wait for time stamps.

"RE: Press Images"
Posted by Outsider32 on 10-09-15 at 01:52 AM
I think we are getting a separate IC/RC ala ep 4 of Cagayan based on this and the NTOS preview.
"CBS SPOILER??"
Posted by Flowerpower1 on 10-09-15 at 07:24 AM
LAST EDITED ON 10-09-15 AT 07:51 AM (EST)

As I look at the press images, I have recognized that Woo is NOT in the shot of them coming to the beach....where would he possibly be if he is not shown in the line up?

Here is Abi's hair in braids...(for comparison)

Woo is NOT there, he's not coming with them....I suspect he is already voted out when the tribe marches in to challenge beach in this picture?

Here are the daws lined up on their mats for episode 4, RC, at challenge beach:

Now, look at Abi-Maria's hair in the two pictures....her hair is just pulled back in the top picture, and in the bottom picture it's braided back. Look at Tasha's hair. It's down in the top picture and it's up in the next picture.

Did CBS post a press image that belongs to a future week, one with no Woo? If so, we know that the next time Angkor goes to TC, Woo is toast. This just strikes me as wrong. I cannot think of any reason that Woo would not be coming in with them?

"RE: CBS SPOILER??"
Posted by suzzee on 10-09-15 at 10:45 AM
Interesting thoughts FP. Where's Woo. Should they go to TC he would be an easy choice to boot. Abi would be on board and that comment from her regarding Woo voting for her twice would seal the deal from her. Abi's in a different shirt in those shots too.


Corrupting teenage boys
since, well,
none of your business how long...

"RE: CBS SPOILER??"
Posted by peppermint12 on 10-09-15 at 01:21 PM
Woo is there walking in, just behind Tasha. If you look between her arm and Andrew, his elbow is sticking out - that 3rd arm. Also I think Abi's hair is in the braids. The braids don't start until 2-3 inches back, so they are hard to see from the front
"RE: CBS SPOILER??"
Posted by Outsider32 on 10-09-15 at 09:19 PM
And you can see Tasha's green barrette on the right side of Abi's head and Tasha does not have long flowing locks which you can clearly see on the left side of Abi. That is Woo.
"Thanks peppermint!"
Posted by Flowerpower1 on 10-10-15 at 08:24 AM
Sorry I didn't see this post yesterday! But you were spot on, peppermint! Thanks so much. Welcome to our boards! Hope you stay!
"RE: CBS SPOILER??"
Posted by Georganna on 10-09-15 at 02:11 PM
LAST EDITED ON 10-09-15 AT 02:20 PM (EST)

Woo, behind and to the left of Andrew ...

"RE: CBS SPOILER??"
Posted by tribephyl on 10-09-15 at 02:24 PM
As noted above. Woo is there.
Must talk you off that particular limb.
"RE: CBS SPOILER??"
Posted by Flowerpower1 on 10-09-15 at 03:34 PM
Yay!!!! Mystery solved, thanks so much, Georgianna! So glad this was refuted, it just didn't make sense to me. Now that you mention this, I think the long hair down is Woo's perhaps, not Tasha's. But, look how much taller Woo is than Tasha....

That's why I couldn't understand where he possibly was, and I didn't see any feet either! Done, thanks so much!

"RE: CBS SPOILER??"
Posted by michel2 on 10-09-15 at 07:50 PM
Did peppermint and Georgianna just call Tasha fat?

It's funny how we can't see Woo's legs at all. I wonder if they chose that picture intentionally. Maybe it isn't a spoiler but it could still be a hint that Woo is about to leave.
"RE: CBS SPOILER??"
Posted by Outsider32 on 10-09-15 at 09:22 PM
I don't know if Woo is going under Tasha and Savage's watch because of his strength. But what could get him out is a Varner idol if he finds one. That's the only way I see him going.
"RE: CBS SPOILER??"
Posted by michel2 on 10-09-15 at 09:34 PM
There's many ways he could be going. Just imagine Woo returning to camp and blowing up on Tasha and Savage for lying to him. Imagine him losing the next immunity challenge by doing something dumb. He could also be caught stealing food. So many ways he could be going...

Anyway, if Tasha and Savage have Abim, why would they even need Woo's strenght? They could go to the next THREE Tribal Councils and still be safe: Woo first then Varner and even Abi if they need to. Then they still have their old Bayon friends. Voting out the strong Woo would actually be smarter.

"RE: Press Images"
Posted by peppermint12 on 10-09-15 at 01:23 PM
Any guesses why Terry's running this challenge instead of Joe?
"RE: Press Images"
Posted by Sheldor on 10-09-15 at 04:17 PM
> Any guesses why Terry's running this challenge instead of Joe?

I was surprised by that too!

My only guess is they had to choose their oldest male player?

55 Terry (Ta Keo: 54 Keith, 25 Joe)
51 Andrew (Ankgor: 49 Jeff, 31 Woo)
37 Jeremy (Bayon: 36 Stephen, 23 Spencer)

"RE: Press Images"
Posted by michel2 on 10-09-15 at 07:53 PM
I think Jeff said the tribes chose their "champion".

Joe should nominate Terry just because he shouldn't want more exposure. He should even tell the tribe that he's injured, fake a limp, do something NOT to be seen as the challenge god. Terry is supposed to be pretty good anyway.

"Reward items?"
Posted by Flowerpower1 on 10-09-15 at 07:45 AM
LAST EDITED ON 10-09-15 AT 07:47 AM (EST)

Are these reward items won in the RC here shown at Camp Angkor?

Jiffy said that they were given bare bones. A few pots and a machete. Look at the stuff with Tasha and Woo. Now they have a table, oars, a bottle, skewers, (I'm thinking those skewers could have had meat and veggies on them earlier?), a bottle with something in it? Wine, vinegar, spices?, there is a covered box of something, a golden bowl. The skewers and bottled wine? do it for me, they definitively win Reward, imo.

Also, what is that on the ground behind the log behind Woo? Is that a swim fin?

ETA: Just found this:

Did they win fishing gear with the reward or is this one of the "basic" supplies?

"Photo of items received at new beach"
Posted by Flowerpower1 on 10-09-15 at 03:57 PM
This is a screen shot of the supplies that Angkor received when they arrived at their beach. You can see that there are no skewers or bottles, but there IS fishing gear.

"RE: Reward items?"
Posted by CTgirl on 10-09-15 at 04:52 PM
They must win reward. Peih Gee in her exit interviews said they got nothing but a pot and a machete at their camp.

They got a lot! This has got to be the biggest reward evah!

"Preview Promo...Ep 4"
Posted by Flowerpower1 on 10-08-15 at 12:54 PM
Thank you, Survivor Fever!

Transcript by SurvivorFever.net:

Jeff Probst: Next time on Survivor, Angkor is in misery.

Andrew <talking to Tasha>: We survived a night in this hellhole.

Varner: No resources, no shelter, nothing. This is a dead cove.

Andrew: We are in hell right now.

Probst: But they're not the only one's who are suffering.

<players stumbling and falling in blindfold challenge>

Kass: Stop!

Probst: Watch out!

































Callers: Varner, Kass, Kimmie

at this point it looks like Angkors have more pieces assembled, but is this like a rubic's cube puzzle. It could be very difficult to solve?

The pairs that I can see together:

Angkor: Caller: Varner, Pairs: Andrew Savage + Abi, Tasha + Woo?
nuBayon: Caller: Kimmie, Pairs: Spencer + Steven, Jeremy + Kelly
nuTaKeo: Caller: Kass, Pairs: Joe + keith, Terry + Cierra


I think a loud strong voice is needed for this challenge and I think Kass may not be good at this. I would give the edge to Varner, and I do think that they yellows have accumulated more puzzle pieces...fwiw.


One thing to note: Abi's hair is like it is here:

Also to point out that I think the above shot of Abi was when they first arrive at the challenge, she comes in smiling...

"RE: Preview Promo...Ep 4"
Posted by Sheldor on 10-08-15 at 09:17 PM
>The pairs that I can see together:
>
>Angkor: Caller: Varner, Pairs: Andrew Savage + Abi, Tasha + Woo?
>
>nuBayon: Caller: Kimmie, Pairs: Spencer + Steven, Jeremy + Kelly
>nuTaKeo: Caller: Kass, Pairs: Joe + keith, Terry + Cierra

Pretty sure Monica is sitting out for nuBayon and that it is Ciera sitting out for nuTaKeo since that is Kelley in the background to the right of Jeff

"RE: Preview Promo...Ep 4"
Posted by Flowerpower1 on 10-08-15 at 10:23 PM
LAST EDITED ON 10-09-15 AT 08:21 AM (EST)

Good eyes, Sheldor. I couldn't see her blonde hair and her striped tights seemed like a solid color. What's with those tights all the girls are wearing for underwear this season? I love that Joe and Terry are leaving their partners wandering around aimlessly! HA!

"S31E04 Press Image Time Stamps"
Posted by Sheldor on 10-09-15 at 09:56 AM
From Episode 2 there appeared to be 5 Cameras and Date/Time Stamps on the photos

Here is my best guess as to how to synchronize all the times

  1. 2014 PST? +15:07 = ICT; Monty Brinton; Canon EOS 5D Mark III # WRONG YEAR
  2. 2014 EDT? +10:01 = ICT; Timothy Kuratek; Sony ILCE-7S # WRONG YEAR; 10 hours is east of Eastern Time Zone (e.g. Brazil)
  3. 2015 PDT? +14:08 = ICT; Monty Brinton; Canon EOS 5D Mark III
  4. 2015 EDT? +10:53 = ICT; Timothy Kuratek; Nikon D5300
  5. 2015 PDT? +27:00 = ICT; Monty Brinton; Canon EOS-1D X # WRONG AM/PM should be PM

Using the Press Images on Survivor Fever at
http://www.survivorfever.net/s31_press_images_ep4.html

Images 1-23 have time stamps.
Images 24-41 do NOT have time stamps. Images were resized smaller and lost their EXIF data (i.e. Date Taken info)

Are there any other sources for the Press Images that might not have been resized?

Images 1-23 were taken by 3 cameras all with author = Monty Brinton (Cameras 1, 3, and 5)


Tue Jun 09, 2015

06/08/2015 08:37 PM -> Camera 3 +14:08 = 06/09/2015 10:45 AM ICT
_0022

06/09/2015 01:45 AM -> Camera 3 +14:08 = 06/09/2015 03:53 PM ICT
_0005

06/09/2015 02:59 AM -> Camera 3 +14:08 = 06/09/2015 05:07 PM ICT
_0006

06/09/2015 03:01 AM -> Camera 3 +14:08 = 06/09/2015 05:09 PM ICT
_0017


06/09/2014 02:02 AM -> Camera 1 +15:07 = 06/09/2015 05:09 PM ICT
_0003

06/09/2014 02:03 AM -> Camera 1 +15:07 = 06/09/2015 05:10 PM ICT
_0016


06/08/2015 02:25 PM -> Camera 5 +27:00 = 06/09/2015 05:25 PM ICT
_0018

06/08/2015 02:25 PM -> Camera 5 +27:00 = 06/09/2015 05:25 PM ICT
_0014

06/08/2015 02:25 PM -> Camera 5 +27:00 = 06/09/2015 05:25 PM ICT
_0002

06/08/2015 02:26 PM -> Camera 5 +27:00 = 06/09/2015 05:26 PM ICT
_0011


06/09/2015 03:18 AM -> Camera 3 +14:08 = 06/09/2015 05:26 PM ICT
_0001

06/09/2015 03:19 AM -> Camera 3 +14:08 = 06/09/2015 05:27 PM ICT
_0010

06/09/2015 03:19 AM -> Camera 3 +14:08 = 06/09/2015 05:27 PM ICT
_0015

06/09/2015 03:19 AM -> Camera 3 +14:08 = 06/09/2015 05:27 PM ICT
_0009

06/09/2015 03:21 AM -> Camera 3 +14:08 = 06/09/2015 05:29 PM ICT
_0008


06/09/2014 02:23 AM -> Camera 1 +15:07 = 06/09/2015 05:30 PM ICT
_0007

06/09/2014 02:24 AM -> Camera 1 +15:07 = 06/09/2015 05:31 PM ICT
_0013


06/09/2015 03:24 AM -> Camera 3 +14:08 = 06/09/2015 05:32 PM ICT
_0012

06/09/2015 03:25 AM -> Camera 3 +14:08 = 06/09/2015 05:33 PM ICT
_0004

06/09/2015 03:25 AM -> Camera 3 +14:08 = 06/09/2015 05:33 PM ICT
_0019

06/09/2015 03:31 AM -> Camera 3 +14:08 = 06/09/2015 05:39 PM ICT
_0020


Wed Jun 10, 2015

06/09/2014 10:21 PM -> Camera 1 +15:05 = 06/10/2015 01:28 PM ICT
_0021


06/09/2015 11:51 PM -> Camera 3 +14:08 = 06/10/2015 01:59 PM ICT
_0023

"RE: S31E04 Press Image Time Stamps"
Posted by Sheldor on 10-09-15 at 10:59 AM
The thumbnail image names on CBS Press Express at
http://www.cbspressexpress.com/cbs-entertainment/shows/survivor/photos

Do not sort sequentially by date and time.

However they do sort sequentially within groups of images.

I now realize those groups are uploads from one of the 5 Cameras!

Probably the images get numbered as the SD Cards from each Camera are uploaded each day.

So we have 3 Cameras

Camera 1 2014 PST? +15:07 = ICT; Monty Brinton; Canon EOS 5D Mark III # WRONG YEAR
Camera 3 2015 PDT? +14:08 = ICT; Monty Brinton; Canon EOS 5D Mark III
Camera 5 2015 PDT? +27:00 = ICT; Monty Brinton; Canon EOS-1D X # WRONG AM/PM 12 hours off

So here are the groups of uploads per Camera per Day which helps sort Image 24-41 which do not have time stamps.

Tue Jun 09, 2015 Camera 1 2014 PST? +15:07 = ICT; Monty Brinton; Canon EOS 5D Mark III # WRONG YEAR

106607_D16826b.jpg _0003
106607_D16838b.jpg _0016
106607_D16890b.jpg _0007
106607_D16908b.jpg _0013

Tue Jun 09, 2015 Camera 3 2015 PDT? +14:08 = ICT; Monty Brinton; Canon EOS 5D Mark III

106607_D16924b.jpg _0026
106607_D16955b.jpg _0025
106607_D16956b.jpg _0040
106607_D16960b.jpg _0035
106607_D16977b.jpg (Missing from Survivor Fever)
106607_D16981b.jpg _0022
106607_D17046b.jpg _0038
106607_D17090b.jpg _0034
106607_D17012b.jpg _0027
106607_D17116b.jpg _0039
106607_D17130b.jpg _0037
106607_D17138b.jpg _0024
106607_D17146b.jpg _0036
106607_D17155b.jpg _0005
106607_D17165b.jpg _0006
106607_D17180b.jpg _0017
106607_D17190b.jpg _0001
106607_D17198b.jpg _0010
106607_D17203b.jpg _0015
106607_D17208b.jpg _0009
106607_D17217b.jpg _0008
106607_D17229b.jpg _0012
106607_D17250b.jpg _0004
106607_D17256b.jpg _0019
106607_D17334b.jpg _0020

Tue Jun 09, 2015 Camera 5 2015 PDT? +27:00 = ICT; Monty Brinton; Canon EOS-1D X # WRONG AM/PM 12 hours off

106607_D17352b.jpg _0018
106607_D17355b.jpg _0014
106607_D17363b.jpg _0002
106607_D17372b.jpg _0011

Wed Jun 10, 2015 Camera 1 2014 PST? +15:07 = ICT; Monty Brinton; Canon EOS 5D Mark III # WRONG YEAR

106607_D17599b.jpg _0021

Wed Jun 10, 2015 Camera 5 2015 PDT? +27:00 = ICT; Monty Brinton; Canon EOS-1D X # WRONG AM/PM 12 hours off

106607_D17650b.jpg _0030
106607_D17663b.jpg _0031
106607_D18737b.jpg _0033
106607_D18756b.jpg _0032
106607_D18756b.jpg _0041 (Duplicate on Survivor Fever)
106607_D18874b.jpg _0028
106607_D18912b.jpg _0029
106607_D18934b.jpg _0023

"RE: S31E04 Press Image Time Stamps"
Posted by suzzee on 10-09-15 at 11:33 AM
A million times thank you, that's a lot of work Sheldor.


Corrupting teenage boys
since, well,
none of your business how long...

"RE: S31E04 Press Image Time Stamps"
Posted by Flowerpower1 on 10-09-15 at 03:29 PM
LAST EDITED ON 10-09-15 AT 04:00 PM (EST)

Sheldor, you are a GIFT to our boards and I am so grateful for all that you do! THANK-YOU!

So, per Sheldor and his hard work, the timeline:

Tuesday, June 9th(Morning of day 10 of production):

10:45 AM at Camp Bayon.
5:07 PM see the tribes arrive at challenge beach, See Takeo and Bayon
5:09 PM see the Angkor tribe arrive without Pei-Geeh. (Where's Woo Mystery = Solved! See all tribes on their mats.
5:25 PM Challenge begins
5:39 PM Challenge is over and the nuTakeo's look pi$$ed.

Wednesday June 10, (day 11 of production):

We see tribe shots at Camp Angkor...starting at 1:28 PM. Interesting to note that all the Camp Bayon shots are on the same day as the RC, all apparently before the RC, which is in the early evening. All of the Camp Angkor pics are from the afternoon of day 11 of production. One can speculate that it's a 2 day cycle. In fact, our old friend, TDT, has this episode as a 2 day cycle, here.. So, we could assume that the physical IC is the morning of day 11 of production, June 10, and that TC will be later that same night.

At the very least we can see that the Angkor tribe was photographed last.

"RE: S31E04 Press Image Time Stamps"
Posted by Outsider32 on 10-09-15 at 09:40 PM
Can't believe they are hiding this stuff now. However, who usually gets the screentime before the IC is usually the tribes in most danger of going to TC and there's more Angkor and Bayon than TaKeo and Takeo looks to have more puzzle pieces than Bayon in that one picture so I'm thinking Bayon may be going.
"RE: S31E04 Press Image Time Stamps"
Posted by Outsider32 on 10-09-15 at 09:33 PM
Does Varner have a wrapped idol stuffed down his pants?
"RE: S31E04 Press Image Time Stamps"
Posted by tribephyl on 10-10-15 at 03:20 AM
Sadly, this is probably a product of being in diapers too long as a child.
Baby boys typically urinate UP, while baby girls urinate DOWN. Having the male 'urinator' facing up is typical of dressing young boys and obviously those in diapers too long end up continuing the practice.
I both loathe and lvoe that we're talking about penis-positions... but I dare say, outsider, you might be a size queen.



IOW, that's no idol.
I think he's just happy to see you.

"RE: S31E04 Press Image Time Stamps"
Posted by Outsider32 on 10-11-15 at 12:37 PM
I am straight and a guy. His bulge just looked funny looking.
"RE: S31E04 Press Image Time Stamps"
Posted by Outsider32 on 10-11-15 at 12:39 PM
And I have been wondering before they pick if he will find the idol given he's on the outs.
"10.10.15 Promo"
Posted by tribephyl on 10-11-15 at 02:01 AM
Transcript and Vidcaps courtesy of SurvivorFever.net

Probst (@RC): This is a Hero Challenge. Each tribe selects one person.

Probst: All 3 digging deep!


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- 06
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"RE: 10.10.15 Promo"
Posted by michel2 on 10-11-15 at 02:39 AM
It's weird that the last few vidcaps include a dreamteamer wearing a green t-shirt.
"RE: 10.10.15 Promo"
Posted by CTgirl on 10-11-15 at 05:14 PM
They probably didn't want to give away who was ahead. Very funny considering they spoiled Angkor winning a pretty hefty reward in the "next week on..." segment!
"RE: S31 | VidCap Analysis | Ep. 04 *no sources* "
Posted by Georganna on 10-11-15 at 09:25 PM
LAST EDITED ON 10-12-15 AT 03:34 AM (EST)

Where there is oil there is not always fire ...

There seems to be discussion here and there about the reason for the presence of the 'cauldrons' at the RC. And, given that their content seems to be a lot smoke and very little fire, I wonder if the only purpose of what seem to be more giant citronella pot than flaming cauldron was merely an effort to repel the multitude of insects that often hold their annual - an hour or so in bug time - conventions on the nearest beach during the late afternoon and evening hours?

Note: In my day, we just DDT'd the pesky things ...

"RE: S31 | VidCap Analysis | Ep. 04 *no sources* "
Posted by michel2 on 10-12-15 at 02:13 AM

>Note: In my day, we
>just DDT'd the pesky things
>...

Why do you think we have so many cancer cases today?


"RE: S31 | VidCap Analysis | Ep. 04 *no sources* "
Posted by Georganna on 10-12-15 at 03:50 AM
LAST EDITED ON 10-12-15 AT 04:11 AM (EST)


Why do you think we have so many cancer cases today?

How could I possibly know, Michel? But, perhaps you,
using words of no greater length or complexity than two syllables,
will tell me?

ETA: You see, I have thus far experienced only breast and renal malignancies.
But, it is entirely possible that after my third biopsy (scheduled for next Wednesday),
I'll be better informed regarding the catalysts associated with the disease.

"Immunity Challenge Video"
Posted by CTgirl on 10-14-15 at 10:50 AM
Video of beginning of Immunity Challenge
"RE: Immunity Challenge Video"
Posted by Sheldor on 10-14-15 at 11:01 AM
Thanks CTgirl!!!