> this
>situation has the potential of
>backfiring on Nat.

Don't forget, Baylor knows about Nat's HII. Hmm....if Jon does find another HII on EI and knows that Nat and "the boys" are gunning for him AND knows that Nat has the HII, could his alliance try to blindside Nat. If there is a double idol play with only the HII holders named in votes, would there be an automatic rock draw of everyone except Jon, Nat and the II winner? Ludicrous, but it would be interesting.

Survivor: San Juan Del Sur Promo
Web Promo Episode

http://www.cbs.com/shows/survivor/video/D1F804CD-4CB2-78ED-E467-FA04BAA38CC0/survivor-kind-of-like-cream-cheese-still-holdin-on-preview-/

http://www.survivorfever.net/vc_s29_web_promo_ep11.html

Transcript by SurvivorFever.net:

Announcer: CBS, Wednesday, it's two new hours of Survivor.

Announcer: With tensions running high...

Reed: Baylor, you're a brat.

Missy: Reed, shut your mouth.

Announcer: And patience running low.

<Jaclyn and Jon arguing on the beach>

Jaclyn: Can I just finish?

Jon: I already knew all this.

Jaclyn: Don't touch me.

Announcer: Blood Versus Water is put to the ultimate test.

Jon: Heyyyyy.

Announcer: Four crucial challenges.

Announcer: It's anyone's game to win.

Alec : My back's against the wall. I just gotta start swingin'.

Announcer: Two Tribal Councils.

Natalie <camera confessional>: I could totally flip the entire game.

Natalie <talking to Keith>: I'm smarter than I look sometimes.

_0001
_0002
_0003
_0004
_0005
_0006
_0007
_0008
_0009
_0010
_0011
_0012
_0013
_0014
_0015
_0016
_0017
_0018
_0019
_0020
_0021
_0022
_0023
_0024
_0025
_0026
_0027
_0028
_0029
_0030
_0031
_0032
_0033
_0034
_0035
_0036
_0037
_0038
_0039
_0040
_0041
_0042

Top Right: Looks like Baylor, Jon, and Natalie are in the 2nd Episode Immunity Challenge.

Bottom Left: Looks like Jaclyn and ??? (Baylor?) are in the 2nd Episode Reward Challenge

LAST EDITED ON 12-01-14 AT 09:06 PM (EST)

Boy, that was a gift! I think Reed will most likely be out first....but now with this promo we get Alec in a suspect spot, aka CTGirl Theory...

Just thrown in the middle....

I still get the feeling that it will be either Jon or Jac...fwiw.

Anyone recognize the two challenges for the second half of the 2 hour show?

I'm with you, FLoPo. My gut is telling me Reed @F8 and Jon or Jac @F7.

That would leave Missy/Baylor as the only couple. Nat drawing a target on herself as the strategic leader of the single alliance. Keith still learning the game (but not yet doing "the worst thing ever in Survior history"). Something tells me that one member of a posible N/K/A alliance will jump ship to help M/B/J take out the other 2.

Let's not forget that Natalie's plan to flip the game starts and ends with Jon. There is nothing to indicate that she wants to flip it on Missy and especially Baylor who she now calls her number 1 ally. If Jon gets the boot, I feel it will be because Natalie, Missy, Baylor and Keith worked together. It's a big if. I'll be voting Reed and Alec this week. Double the episodes, double the boredom.

I'll be voting Reed and Alec this week. Double the episodes, double the boredom.

I may very well do the same, though I'm not sure in which order. Musing on how things would proceed after last week, I thought Reed, Keith, and Alec, in some order, would likely be the next three boots. I don't see J/J and M/B working against each other quite yet. (But...one never knows.)

Flowerpower wrote: Anyone recognize the two challenges for the second half of the 2 hour show?

The 2nd Reward? challenge seen at the bottom left

Is very similar to this Immunity challenge from BvW1 Ep14 which Tyson won

I don't recognize the endurance Immunity(?) challenge on the Top Right.

This does seem heading to a puzzle any attentative player could win. Let's eliminate lack of patience Alex. Who else?

The top left one is also interesting..It shows Keith, Reed, Jaclyn, Baylor, and Missy with notepads in their hands or a laptop(loved ones video messages maybe?). I think that is from the second hour since the first hour is the chop challenge and the ball placement thing. And we see the IC for second hour is Natalie, Jon, and Jaclyn and RC is Jaclyn and Baylor.

This may have just given away Alec as the first boot.

Okay that actually might be the chop challenge.

>Okay that actually might be the
>chop challenge.

Yes, they have to answer questions correcty to earn chops. A little less revealing of the true pecking order because only those with correct answer can chop each round.

Thanks for posting, Sheldor! Yes, it looks like the same challenge....do you remember how this challenge runs?

The castaways would pull on a rope attached to an unbalanced table to keep the table level. They would stand a wooden block on end and have to hold on to the rope to keep the block upright. They would then retrieve one of nine wooden blocks from three stations while keeping all the blocks on the table upright. Once the block was retrieved, the castaway would have to stack the block on the table and retrieve the other blocks. Should any of the the blocks fall, the castaway would have to return to the table and restack the blocks. The first castaway to have all ten blocks standing for a three count would win.

IMMUNITY Challenge Preview
Survivor - Behind The Scenes Challenge "A Bit Tipsy"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EShF2E_UrdY

According to John K. this challenge we see Jaclyn doing is the IMMUNITY challenge (for the second episode Ep12)

LAST EDITED ON 12-02-14 AT 11:52 AM (EST)

Anyone notice that these challenges are all the same thing this season?

Sumo challenge and then the balance on the beam and push into mud= versions of the same challenge. Fall in water, fall in mud

Balancing balls: Keith wins first one, will he win this one too?

Standing on small painful platform for endurance challenge: Reed won this and did splits later, looks like the next one is the same exact challenge.....balance on small painful block, while holding your arms up...will Natalie or Reed win? I bet Jon won't step down first, lol!

Is there anything more to the challenge where they are on a block and holding on? Doesn't look like it...

Reed was in pretty good shape after he won that first endurance challenge, as shown by that split. That was a taunting move.

Interesting to see that this time they can remove a foot from the perch. That might help change the outcome. Maybe.

But Keith, a smoker and a snuff user (I think that's why his salava glands are over active), he's older, he’s probably not been shy around the bottle, and he's bound to have some minor hand tremors. I don't see him repeating. Kudos if he does, but I am skeptical. I have a real hard time even seeing him as a firefighter.

Pics are shown of him already placing two balls. How do we know he smokes?

LAST EDITED ON 12-02-14 AT 06:56 PM (EST)

In keith's official CBS Survivor bio, it mentions his cigar habit. Also, dippers are usually smokers.

Wes was a dipper, per his bio.

He may win, he did earlier, can't count him out.

But we don't know where the others are when he had 2 balls in, and in any case, 2 balls in is still 4 balls from the finish.

In last week's secret scene Reed has a confessional where he talks about how the challenge drained him. He said he has lost muscle mass doe to lack of food. He did not intend to end the challenge sitting in a split, saying that it definitely wasn't how he wanted to receive the immunity necklace. Reed gave up reward and didn't opt out for food like Nat. He won't be able to last as long in a similar challenge. Nat has a better shot after having eaten and so do some of the others. 3 hours in that challenge will have taken its toll.

"He did not intend to end the challenge sitting in a split, saying that it definitely wasn't how he wanted to receive the immunity necklace."

There a little dissembling going on there. Because he did do the split, and that's something you do intentionally. You don't do splits accidentally. I don't know where he's coming from with that, but it pretty much puts anything he says in doubt.

Although I'm sure he did lose weight, they all will have lost weight by now.

Survivor: San Juan Del Sur
Episode 11
Behind the Scenes of the Immunity Challenge

http://www.survivorfever.net/vc_s29_challenge_ep11.html

Survivor - Behind The Scenes Challenge "Paddle Out"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpKIwoHEmMs

Transcript by SurvivorFever.net:

John Kirhoffer <Challenges Producer>: This is called "Paddle Out." Each player has a paddle. Each paddle has 6 little dimples on it. On "go" start rolling billiard balls down the neck of the paddle. What we've added this year is a little rise (in the neck of the paddle). It goes up and over and then into one of the 6 dimples. The first player to get a ball to land in each of the 6 dimples wins Immunity.

_0001
_0002
_0003
_0004
_0005
_0006
_0007
_0008
_0009
_0010

Survivor: San Juan Del Sur
Episode 12
Behind the Scenes of the Immunity Challenge

http://www.survivorfever.net/vc_s29_challenge_ep12.html

Survivor - Behind The Scenes Challenge "A Bit Tipsy"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EShF2E_UrdY

Transcript by SurvivorFever.net:

John Kirhoffer <Challenges Producer>: This is a classic called "A Bit Tipsy." This challenge is based on agility versus speed. The players have to hold onto a rope while racing back to get blocks and keeping a wobbly table level. They've got 10 blocks. When they get all 10 blocks back, they win the challenge. If they drop blocks, they have to put whatever block they have in their hand back on the receiving table, run up, set them all back up, and get back to the challenge. First player to get all 10 blocks stacked on their wobbly table wins Immunity.

_0001
_0002
_0003
_0004
_0005
_0006
_0007
_0008
_0009
_0010
_0011
_0012
_0013
_0014

Is it just me, or does Alec have a badly bruised leg and face
- or -
a badly bruised face and a strangely hairy leg
- or -
is Jon not the only 'dirty' one in this collection of vidcaps?

And what about any of the four Challenges we've been shown
would account for the dried mud/dirt?

So, have both he and Jon been diggin' for an Idol - somewhere?

If it's dried mud or dirt ...

G

In Survivor Nicaragua one of the Rewards was Volcano Surfing on Cerro Negro which Chase, Fabio, Jane, Kelly S., and NaOnka got to enjoy wearing orange jump suits. It looked like this:

Maybe the Jon or Alec won the Reward challenge to go Volcano Surfing and chose the other to go along on them and that's how their faces got dirty/black from the ash?

Probably not since I don't think the Reward would be before the Immunity challenge.

So perhaps Jon goes to exile in 1st show and Alec in 2nd. In that case either one could have the II. ??? If Alec doesn't find he'll know Jon has it. On the other hand maybe Alec misbehaves towards Baylor again and they have a rumble in the dirt.

LAST EDITED ON 12-03-14 AT 09:35 AM (EST)

Georgiana: You raise a good point. To me, however, Alec just looks hairy....I think that could be his beard on his face and definitely he has hairy legs. But, I don't know? If there is a volcanic ash slide reward, I do not think that Alec would be picked to go....It really seems as if one of the under the radar girls will go, could be Nat, could be Jac, could even be Missy. As Tribe noted, Missy is standing there next to Jiffy when she tells Reed to shut his mouth...

OTOH, Alec could possibly win the endurance reward?

I have a question: How sure are we that SEG will hide another idol?

If they do hide an idol, will it be 1 or 2?

LAST EDITED ON 12-03-14 AT 02:13 PM (EST)

I believe they would only rehide one, on Exile Island, to replace the one Jon played. The ones hidden at the camps pre-merge aren't rehidden when they get played post-merge (but they are rehidden if they are played pre-merge). Once there is a single tribe, there is only ever a single clue/idol out there to be discovered at a given time. At least, I think that's how it works.

(ETA: the HII that Natalie found would be the one rehidden pre-merge after Rocker departed with his in pocket.)

Agreed. 1 idol gets re-hidden post merge.

Also, I highly doubt they would repeat the ash-slide reward.
Nope, I can pretty much guarantee they won't do the same reward.

I'd prefer to think that Alec got a well deserved punch.

But it's probably dirt.

LAST EDITED ON 12-03-14 AT 11:39 AM (EST)

CBS has posted a sneak peek today....clearly the start of the fight...

It's from when they get back from TC and Jon tells her quit giving props to Natalie about the decision he made to play the idol.....Clip is located here.

Jaclyn is a dunce, Jon seems rational! She interprets this as him getting to F3 without her. She says, screw you, I am going to F3...

We know that the argument is through ep 11, and that they both make it past TC and into ep 12. Will this impact episode 12? Girls like to talk to other girls when things are going south with their boyfriends. I am SURE that the other girls around, Natalie, Missy, Baylor will all be able to tell that Jaclyn and Jon are arguing. It's inescapable. They will bug her to find out why....will she tell them? I can see Jon maybe talking to Missy about it? Or, not? How will this impact them moving forward? Could this be the beginning of the end for one of them? If the Team Joisey spoiler is to be believed, then this could be the beginning of the end for Jac? Thoughts?

ETA: We know that it is really a big deal. Jiffy noted in the preview promo: JP: But one fight will change the game for good. Usually verbiage includes "could", but this time he says it WILL change the game for good. That's what leads me to believe one of them will be toast because of this change.

We know that the argument begins the night they return from TC where Wes is booted, and it extends up to or beyond the next TC...that's 3 days, and she is still not talking to him. Trouble. We know that the winner of the season is one that seizes opportunity....and we know that Natalie wants to exact a revenge toward Jon. We also know that Jon most likely goes to EI, and if he finds an idol....then wouldn't it be incredible if Natalie swings votes to Jon, he plays the idol, and Jac goes because of it! Now that would be amazing!

If that’s the choice, I'm leaning toward discounting the Team Joisey Spoiler.

It just doesn't seem reasonable (and I see the pitfall there - "what does reason have to do with it?") that a disagreement like that would have that severe an effect on their relationship, especially after seeing how together and relatively rational they have been. She’s emotional, but ultimately, on this island, he’s her port in the storm. And she his.

Ahem!

Vidcaps and Transcript courtesy of SurvivorFever.net

Jon: For future...
Jaclyn: Yeah?
Jon: If I do a play that's really good like that don't give them credit.
Jaclyn: Who?
Jon: You were like, I'm so glad you told Jon to play the idol.
Jaclyn: Natalie?
Jon: Yeah. Like just, when we talk about it later, the jury needs to know I said it.
Jaclyn: Who's the jury? What are you talking about? Like the people sitting here, right here?
Jon: Top three, top three. Like when I'm in the top three.
Jaclyn: Okay, well what happens if I get in the top three and you don't?
Jon: Yeah, that's fine.
Jaclyn: So stop acting like you are gonna...
Jon: Babe, I'm, I'll do everything I can to help you with this.
Jaclyn: Okay but I feel like this smallest thing that you're pointing out to me right now. That's the smallest thing.
Jon (camera confessional): Jaclyn gave Natalie the props for my play. We need this for jury. You can't say that was her play. Like then she's gonna use it. We can't do that. That's terrible.
Jon: Babe, why are you so mad?
Jaclyn: Because it's like, you're like "give me all the credit." It was me and Natalie, too, who were helping you with that decision.
Jon: I'm just saying, don't give it to Natalie.
Jaclyn (camera confessional): I was so mad when he took credit for something that I helped him do. That he was like, "stop saying you helped and Natalie helped. It was my decision." I was like, "screw you, I'm going to the top three then."

-01
-02
-03
-04
-05
-06
-07
-08
-09
-10
-11
-12
-13
-14

What's most interesting about this is that it's immediately after TC and Jon is attempting some damage control for something that may actually not be a favorable action if he gets to final 3. He also makes a huge mistake, again, by stating that he's going to F3 and not including Jaclyn. All of this before their big argument AFTER the next IC.
To me, this spells danger for both Jaclyn and Natalie.
It would also appear to be that the theme is DON'T help your alliance. Elsewise, you become the boot.

To me, these two are so competitive the "team" is breaking down. And, Jiffy told us, that this WILL change the game for good. I agree...this could feed into Natalie's revenge plans...does Jon find an HII at RI? Will he be able to "read" the opportunity that presents? It is looking more and more like either Jon or Jac will go, imo. If Jac goes, then it's because Jon most likely plays an HII.

If Jac goes then Jon will seek revenge toward Natalie...this could get GOOD!

Jon seems awfully condescending toward Jaclyn. And anyway, at least a few people besides Jaclyn likely saw/heard Nat telling him he should play it. He can't pretend she didn't say it.

If Jon does not want Jaclyn in the Final 3, it's obviously news to Jaclyn. He should not have implied that to her. I think these two will fall apart because of this.

LAST EDITED ON 12-03-14 AT 02:56 PM (EST)

It makes sense that he would not want her in the F3. It seems to me that if a couple who played together both made it to the finals that there would be some degree of vote splitting. Jon probably sees the million dollar prize as "theirs" if HE wins, but here we are seeing the same anger from Jac at her perception that he sees himself winning without her at his side at FTC as she showed toward the chauvinism of the "boys" while Jon was at EI. The "boys" hurt her feelings by marginalizing her and not strategizing with her while Jon was gone, and now she sees Jon as marginalizing her in his end game. He does not want the contributions of their competitors highlighted in case the competitor makes it to FTC. She wants recognition for what she and the other women have contributed. It's a battle of logic and emotion. We have seen from the confessionals on the baseball game reward how close these two have been and how tight they see themselves as a couple. In the game environment, though, Jac needs more communication and affirmation. Jon is blind to that and the results will change the game. They have gone from the power couple who saw themselves as running the game to a divided couple that will ultimately fail. Logically, the should be working together to eliminate the biggest threat (Reed) and continue to work with Missy and Baylor to (1) avoid being taken out themselves and 2) eliminate the threat from Keith or Nat and maintain good relations with Alec to then remove Missy giving them their choice of the rude, clueless goat or the lazy goat for FTC. Instead, their power is disintegrating and the couple who could have dominated the game may both be out by F5.