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"S29 | Ep 10 | Vidcap Analysis *No Sources*"

Posted by Sheldor on 11-19-14 at 11:45 PM
Here is the depository of vidcaps and the discussion attached to them for episode 10.

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"S29 | Ep 10 | Next Time On Promo"
Posted by Sheldor on 11-19-14 at 11:48 PM
Survivor: San Juan Del Sur Promo (Next Time On)
Episode 10
Date: 11.19.14

http://www.survivorfever.net/vc_s29_ep10_11_19.html

Transcript by SurvivorFever.net:

Jeff Probst: Next time on Survivor...

Natalie: We're going to look for this damn idol right now.

Baylor: Right now?

Natalie: Yes.

Probst: ...with Jeremy gone, Natalie is out for revenge.

Natalie <camera confessional>: I want to give Jon a taste of his own medicine.

Probst: ...and Jon becomes public enemy number one.

Keith: Somebody feels comfortable.

Reed <camera confessional>: Keith's going home tonight.

Jon <talking to Alec>: You're a hundred percent?

Alec: I'm a hundred percent down. Yeah.

Alec <camera confessional>:

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"RE: S29 | Ep 10 | Next Time On Promo"
Posted by Sheldor on 11-20-14 at 08:23 PM
Natalie: We're going to look for this damn idol right now.

Baylor: Right now?

Natalie: Yes.

Probst: ...with Jeremy gone, Natalie is out for revenge.

Natalie <camera confessional>: I want to give Jon a taste of his own medicine.

At first I thought Natalie was trying to dig up Jon or Keith's idol but that doesn't make sense since you can't take someone's idol.

Then I remembered that Natalie & Baylor were the last pair to go to Exile Island and receive a 4 word clue. Their clue said:

Buried, Flag, Of, Ten

And you can see that Natalie is digging near the Huyopa Flag Tribe which I assume was placed near where the Cuyopa Tribe Flag used to be?

Press Release says "Also, the first idol of the season comes into play during a chaotic Tribal Council"

So is that Jon or Keith's idol or did Natalie find an idol too?!


"Finds idol...."
Posted by Flowerpower1 on 11-22-14 at 10:15 AM
LAST EDITED ON 11-22-14 AT 10:16 AM (EST)

I am with you, Sheldor. I don't think they would preview Natalie hunting for the idol if she did not find one....I bet she indeed does find one!

We see that Baylor is there too, the question is, will Baylor get the info back to Jon that Natalie finds one? I bet he will find out.


"Transcript:"
Posted by Flowerpower1 on 11-22-14 at 10:20 AM
The total transcript to the preview promo:

Transcript by SurvivorFever.net:

Jeff Probst: Next time on Survivor...

Natalie: We're going to look for this damn idol right now.

Baylor: Right now?

Natalie: Yes.

Probst: ...with Jeremy gone, Natalie is out for revenge.

Natalie <camera confessional>: I want to give Jon a taste of his own medicine.

Probst: ...and Jon becomes public enemy number one.

Keith: Somebody feels comfortable.

Reed <camera confessional>: Keith's going home tonight.

Jon <talking to Alec>: You're a hundred percent?

Alec: I'm a hundred percent down. Yeah.

Alec <camera confessional>: Now we are gonna change the game...


"RE: Transcript:"
Posted by tribephyl on 11-22-14 at 01:17 PM
Not a monsterous difference but the verbiage in Reed's confessional ... 'Keith's going home tonight' should actually read ... He's going home tonight.
It's what the Closed Captioning has it as.

While this doesn't mean that it's NOT about Keith, it would certainly open the boot pool to someone besides Keith. Like Jon?


"S29 | Ep 10 | Survivor Live Sneak Peek"
Posted by Sheldor on 11-20-14 at 08:16 PM
Survivor: San Juan Del Sur
Survivor Live Sneak Peek - Episode 10 Promo
Date: 11.20.14


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHJejNLf-NQ

Transcript by SurvivorFever.net:

Wes: Well, that was interesting.

Keith: Hey, that was a smart move, guys.

Keith <camera confessional>: Whew, I tell you what. Tribal, that was a biggie tonight. Reed was going home. That's the last word I got. I even voted for Reed.

Reed: You're all still here, but it is on thin ice. So let's just be humble and figure this out.

Alec: We need one more person.

Keith: Reed's a gamer. He plays and he knows how to talk to folks and figure stuff out. Mathematic numbers and all that mess, which is way above me.

Reed: As long as we can stick together and not turn on one another, we'll figure something out.

Alec: Yeah.

Reed <camera confessional>: At tribal council Jeremy went home. It was a big play, and it was a big success, which was awesome.

Reed: Don't vote for me again, and we'll figure this out.

Reed <camera confessional>: I'm trying to decide how I can go deeper into this game right now, whether it's sticking to the Jon type group and just picking off the people who are in my alliance, or taking out Jon. That would be a really great play because Jon thinks he's alpha male here.

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"S29 | Ep 9 | Post Show PR Images"
Posted by Sheldor on 11-20-14 at 09:03 PM
I like to look at the Post Show Press Release Images as they sometime reveal info like check out Baylor sitting on Alec's lap during Reward











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"S29 | Ep 10 | PR Image Thumbnails"
Posted by Sheldor on 11-21-14 at 04:46 PM
LAST EDITED ON 11-21-14 AT 06:02 PM (EST)

CBS Press Release Thumbnail Images for Episode 10

Only 12 Press Images posted so far...

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Updated with Full Images below from Survivor Fever.net

http://www.survivorfever.net/s29_press_images_ep10.html

Note: NO timestamps on any of these images. Sorted by CBS Thumbnail Image Names

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"RE: S29 | Ep 10 | PR Image Thumbnails"
Posted by michel2 on 11-21-14 at 07:23 PM
So Jiffy finally brings out the temptation. I wonder who will be feeling comfortable?

"RE: S29 | Ep 10 | PR Image Thumbnails"
Posted by Flowerpower1 on 11-22-14 at 10:21 AM
First guesses: Jaclyn, Missy, or Baylor

"Tribal Teaser"
Posted by tribephyl on 11-23-14 at 01:28 AM
Vidcaps and Transcript courtesy of SurvivorFever.net

(@ Tribal Council)
Jon: You think you have a plan.
Keith: Idols are everywhere.
Baylor: My gut is gonna tell me what to do.
Missy: It's like complete chaos.
Jon: This is the most confusing...

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"RE: Tribal Teaser"
Posted by michel2 on 11-23-14 at 03:25 AM
It's rare that a promo is only about Tribal Council but what I found most interesting is that 8 people are featured in this promo, leaving Wes as the only person not seen. He must have the necklace around his neck.


"RE: Tribal Teaser"
Posted by Flowerpower1 on 11-23-14 at 09:30 AM
LAST EDITED ON 11-23-14 AT 09:39 AM (EST)

Agreed, Michel:

No IN: Jon, Natalie, Alec, Keith, Jaclyn, Reed, Baylor, Missy

Clearly, as michel notes, Wes has won the IN!

Also notable:

Boy, Alec looks really confused, surprised, dumb-founded. Same ole, same ole...

Also wanted to study this pic at the IC Mat....does anyone look weathered, out of place? Who will go to EI this week?

I cannot tell, but I can see that Missy has a Coyopa bag on her shoulder...? Baylor has one as well, so she has somebody else's bag...I don't think she went to EI though, because she, Baylor, and Natalie all have their hair neatly braided....hmmm, Natalie is back with the girls, but not back with Jon? She will most likely use Jon and then go after him.....

Keith has a Coyopa water canteen.


"RE: Tribal Teaser"
Posted by michel2 on 11-23-14 at 12:17 PM
What is interesting in that picture is that they are all smiling except for the Nales. Keith looks really tired but that's almost his natural look. Is he the one that went to EI?

"S29 | Ep 10 | Promo"
Posted by Sheldor on 11-23-14 at 10:25 PM
Survivor: San Juan Del Sur Promo
Episode 10
Date: 11.23.14

http://www.survivorfever.net/vc_s29_ep10_11_23.html

Transcript by SurvivorFever.net:

Natalie <talking to Baylor>: We need to get rid of one of the boys.

Reed <talking to Keith>: We can make a huge change in the game.

Missy <talking to Jon>: Keith and Wesley, one of them has an idol.

Jon <at Tribal Council>: You think you have a plan...

Keith <at Tribal Council>: Idols are everywhere.

Missy <at Tribal Council>: It's like complete chaos.

Jon <at Tribal Council>: This is the most confusing...

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"RE: S29 | Ep 10 | Promo"
Posted by michel2 on 11-23-14 at 11:58 PM
Thank you Sheldor. This promo confirms that Natalie is staying with the women.

"RE: S29 | Ep 10 | Promo"
Posted by Outsider32 on 11-24-14 at 00:50 AM
Jon just as smug as ever. I hate these college athlete pretty boys.

"S29 | Ep 10 | Promo"
Posted by Flowerpower1 on 11-24-14 at 09:23 AM
LAST EDITED ON 11-24-14 AT 09:28 AM (EST)

Another new promo located here.

Transcript:

Jon in confessional: I am (See Jon sitting with Jaclyn)

at the mercy of my alliance...

Natalie to Baylor: We need to get rid of one of the boys...

THERE WILL BE TWISTS

Reed to Keith: We can make a huge change in the game...


DECEPTION

See Jaclyn and Jon sitting in the shelter,

then a shot of Keith, Alec, and Wes...

As Alec in conf says: The opposing alliance thinks that we are going to vote with them tonight

SUSPICION

Missy to Jon as they walk: Keith and Wesley, one of them as an idol

DOUBT

Natalie to Missy/Jaclyn at night: How can I trust you guys?

DOUBLE DEALING

Reed walking with Alec asking him: Are you down?

Alec: I’m down

Then cut to Missy/Jon/Alec, Alec telling Jon: I am 100% down

CHAOS
Jon at TC: You think you have a plan...
See Natalie
Keith at TC: Idols are everywhere
See Jaclyn
See Alec
Baylor at TC: My guts gonna tell me what to do
Missy: It’s like complete chaos
Keith: Leaning over to speak to Jon...you say “stick to the plan”
See Baylor
See Reed
See Jon shaking his head: This is the most confusing
Jiffy: WOW

FWIW: The position of the DAWS at TC, Left of screen to right:
Reed-Jaclyn-Jon-Natalie-Alec-Baylor-Keith-Missy-Wes

What this promo tells us:

*Jon is at the mercy of Jaclyn, Missy/Bay tonight....they will direct the vote.
*Natalie wants to get rid of one of the guys. Natalie is seemingly still with Missy/Bay
*Reed is plotting with Keith/Wes/Alec, he has a plan to change the game.
*Jon/Jac will be deceived by Keith/Alec/Wes (led by Reed)
*Alec tells us that Jon/Jac/Missy/Bay think that the boys are voting with them (most likely against Reed?)
*But, Missy and Jon are suspicious....they know that Keith/Wes, one of them has an idol.
*But, we see that Natalie has doubt about trusting Missy/Bay/Jac
*Reed has set a plan with Alec, and Alec is down.
*But, Alec is double dealing and we see that he is 100% down with Jon/Missy too
*Chaos ensues at TC, and it's Keith that tells Jon, "you say 'stick to the plan'.

This sounds to me as though the "boys" think they are pulling a fast one on Jon, but he probably plays his idol, and Reed goes home? But, the position of Alec right smack in the middle is a little ominous as well....



"RE: S29 | Ep 10 | Promo"
Posted by michel2 on 11-24-14 at 10:02 AM
Very astute analysis, FP.

I will add that the shot of Natalie asking if she can trust Missy and Jaclyn is in black and white so it will be at the very start of the episode when Missy does damage control after the vote. We know it will succeed because Natalie wants to take out one of the boys.

To me, the seating arrangements at TC are the biggest clue: Production may have put Alec on the hot seat simply because he was double dealing but mostly, they must have heard enough to know that he is being blindsided. They want to have all the reaction shots possible as it dawns on him.


"RE: S29 | Ep 10 | Promo"
Posted by Flowerpower1 on 11-24-14 at 10:45 AM
To me, the seating arrangements at TC are the biggest clue: Production may have put Alec on the hot seat simply because he was double dealing but mostly, they must have heard enough to know that he is being blindsided. They want to have all the reaction shots possible as it dawns on him.

AGREED!


"RE: S29 | Ep 10 | Promo"
Posted by kingfish on 11-24-14 at 11:58 AM
LAST EDITED ON 11-24-14 AT 12:58 PM (EST)


Which is the hot seat?

ETA: OK, so I see from FP's post that the hot seat floats, and we only know in retrospect which one it was.

I also question the thinking that production controls the seating order. They are seen walking in and seemingly sitting in a random order. And we've seen in the past where they walk into TC in the same order they are seen along the path to TC.


"RE: S29 | Ep 10 | Promo"
Posted by michel2 on 11-24-14 at 04:21 PM
Production always arrange for the players to sit in a particular order and the booted player has been in the middle too often for it to be coincidence. Take this picture when Chris, Eliza, Scout and Twila took out Leann, Amy's closest ally. The three stars of the TC were placed right next to each other to get the best images possible:


"RE: S29 | Ep 10 | Promo"
Posted by kingfish on 11-24-14 at 05:53 PM
...the booted player has been in the middle too often for it to be coincidence."

According to FP's post, that's only happened once this season. Hardly a convincing "too often", even though it wouldn't be hard to imagine production wanting to up the drama.


But I know KOBFan used to (maybe still does) attend those yearly survivor get together reunion parties. So her confirmation as to the seating order arrangement is convincing.


"RE: S29 | Ep 10 | Promo"
Posted by michel2 on 11-24-14 at 09:26 PM
They don't always use the middle seat because it would give it away but I think they do it when they have a "Let's have fun with this bozo" boot.

Placing them at the either end is also another way they like to go. It kind of isolates the player in danger, prevents him or her from getting a good conversation with everyone.


"RE: S29 | Ep 10 | Promo"
Posted by Brownroach on 11-24-14 at 05:36 PM
KObrienfan, who had met many contestants over the years and who had a lot of knowledge about how things are done on the show, confirmed a long time ago that production assigns the seats for tribal council. I think at the very beginning they didn't, but that changed pretty quickly.

"TC Seating Arrangements"
Posted by Flowerpower1 on 11-24-14 at 10:35 AM
LAST EDITED ON 11-24-14 AT 10:46 AM (EST)


At TC: ep 10

Reed-Jaclyn-Jon-Natalie-Alec-Baylor-Keith-Missy-Wes

TC ep 9, crunch time...

Keith/Reed/Wes/Missy/Alec/Baylor/Jon/Jac/Jeremy/Natalie

TC ep 8: Wrinkle in the plan:

Reed/Josh/Keith/Baylor/Wes/Missy/Jon/Jaclyn/Jeremy/Natalie/Alec

TC ep 7: Million Dollar decision: Julie quit, no TC

TC ep 6: Make some magic happen

Keith/Missy/Dale/Baylor/Jon/Jaclyn

TC ep 5:

Baylor/Keith/Missy/Jon/Jaclyn/Dale/Kelly

TC ep 4: We’re a hot mess

Drew/Kelly/Jon/Natalie/Jeremy/Julie/Reed/Missy/Keith

TC ep 3: Actions vs. Accusations

Wes/Josh/Dale/Jaclyn/John/Baylor/Alec

Observations:

Seems that there is a pattern; from episode 3 up, ep 3:Middle, ep 4: end, ep 5: end, ep 6: middle, ep 8: end, ep 9: end....if there is a pattern for TC seating, it could possibly point to Alec this ep?

*Interesting to note that for TC 10, Reed is on the end, and Alec is in the middle!
*I didn't go and look at TC 1 or 2...


"RE: TC Seating Arrangements"
Posted by Georganna on 11-24-14 at 12:18 PM
LAST EDITED ON 11-24-14 AT 12:33 PM (EST)

If Jon and Jaclyn are ever separated at Tribal, it will be interesting to see what that meant.

ETA: Or, if they are never separated at Tribal ...

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"RE: TC Seating Arrangements"
Posted by suzzee on 11-24-14 at 05:28 PM
Looks like the first two episodes were middle or close to it.

TC ep 2: Method to this Madness

Alec/Baylor/John R/Val/Dale/Jaclyn/Wes/Josh

TC ep 1: Suck It Up And Survive

Wes/Val/Dale/Baylor/John R/Nadyia/Josh/Jaclyn/Alec



I should be watched....closely.


"RE: TC Seating Arrangements"
Posted by coldbrewer on 11-24-14 at 06:51 PM
It's almost like guessing what number comes next (i.e., 1, 3, 6, 10, etc).

So far, we have middle, middle, middle, left, right, middle, QUIT, left, right, MIDDLE? ALEC or NATALIE in danger?


"RE: S29 | Ep 10 | Promo"
Posted by Sheldor on 11-25-14 at 05:54 PM
GREAT analysis Flowerpower!! You wrote:

    FWIW: The position of the DAWS at TC, Left of screen to right:
    Reed-Jaclyn-Jon-Natalie-Alec-Baylor-Keith-Missy-Wes

    What this promo tells us:

    *Jon is at the mercy of Jaclyn, Missy/Bay tonight....they will direct the vote.
    *Natalie wants to get rid of one of the guys. Natalie is seemingly still with Missy/Bay
    *Reed is plotting with Keith/Wes/Alec, he has a plan to change the game.
    *Jon/Jac will be deceived by Keith/Alec/Wes (led by Reed)
    *Alec tells us that Jon/Jac/Missy/Bay think that the boys are voting with them (most likely against Reed?)
    *But, Missy and Jon are suspicious....they know that Keith/Wes, one of them has an idol.
    *But, we see that Natalie has doubt about trusting Missy/Bay/Jac
    *Reed has set a plan with Alec, and Alec is down.
    *But, Alec is double dealing and we see that he is 100% down with Jon/Missy too
    *Chaos ensues at TC, and it's Keith that tells Jon, "you say 'stick to the plan'.

    This sounds to me as though the "boys" think they are pulling a fast one on Jon, but he probably plays his idol, and Reed goes home? But, the position of Alec right smack in the middle is a little ominous as well....

Alec is all over the screen caps often front and center. I think he gets voted out for Double Dealing and because they don't think Keith would give Alec his idol.








"Extra YouTube SurvivorOnCBS Videos"
Posted by Sheldor on 11-24-14 at 07:44 PM
LAST EDITED ON 11-24-14 AT 09:09 PM (EST)

LAST EDITED ON 11-24-14 AT 09:08 PM (EST)

So how boring are these upcoming Episodes for CBS to publish these NON Episode Related Videos and to air back-to-back full episodes on Dec 3rd?

Survivor - Jeremy's Top 3 Moments
Published on Nov 21, 2014

Survivor Castaway Jeremy Collins shares his most memorable moments from this season of Survivor Blood vs. Water! Survivor airs on Wednesdays at 8/7c. Only CBS


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhYBss9O38Y

Survivor - Jeffisms (Remix)
Published on Nov 24, 2014


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3026FRJyWg

The host of Survivor has coined some iconic Survivor sayings over the years. Here are just a few of your favorite Jeffisms. Watch Survivor, Wednesdays at 8/7c. Only CBS!

ETA: False Alarm. Thanks Georganna!
SPOILER ALERT! Looks like the Final 5 leaving Tribal Council at 1:16


"RE: Extra YouTube SurvivorOnCBS Videos"
Posted by Georganna on 11-24-14 at 09:01 PM
Sheldor: SPOILER ALERT! Looks like the Final 5 leaving Tribal Council at 1:16

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"RE: Extra YouTube SurvivorOnCBS Videos"
Posted by Sheldor on 11-24-14 at 09:10 PM
Georganna you are right! They are wearing ORANGE Buffs!

"RE: Extra YouTube SurvivorOnCBS Videos"
Posted by Georganna on 11-25-14 at 12:38 PM
I didn't even notice the buffs!

I was too busy hoping that I wouldn't find that particular five-person Tribal seating arrangement in FP's display.

Because I really would like to think that Keith was part of the F5. At the very least ...

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"S29 | Ep 10 | 11.24.14 Preview"
Posted by Sheldor on 11-24-14 at 09:25 PM
This Is Where We Build Trust (Preview)
Web Promo Episode 10
Date: 11.24.14

Also see Flowerpower's thread on this preview at:
http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/DCForumID2/8281.shtml#18

CBS Web Site Video
http://www.cbs.com/shows/survivor/video/C918FEA2-C2C6-F65A-5B18-D4563621DF98/survivor-this-is-where-we-build-trust-preview-/

http://www.survivorfever.net/vc_s29_web_promo_ep10.html

Transcript by SurvivorFever.net:

Jon <camera confessional>: I am at the mercy of my alliance.

Natalie <talking to Baylor>: We need to get rid of one of the boys.

Reed <talking to Keith>: We can make a huge change in the game.

Alec <camera confessional>: The opposing alliance think that we are going to vote with them tonight.

Missy <talking to Jon>: Keith and Wesley, one of them has an idol.

Natalie <talking to Missy>: How can I trust you guys?

Reed <talking to Alec>: Are you down?

Alec: I'm down.

Alec <talking to Jon and Missy>: I'm 100% down.

Jon <at Tribal Council>: You think you have a plan...

Keith <at Tribal Council>: Idols are everywhere.

Baylor <at Tribal Council> My gut is going to tell me what to do.

Missy <at Tribal Council>: It's like complete chaos.

Keith <at Tribal Council>: I say stick to the plan.

Jon <at Tribal Council>: This is the most confusing...

Jeff Probst <at Tribal Council>: Wow!

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