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"S28 | Ep09 | VidCap Analysis *No Sources* "
Posted by tribephyl on 04-18-14 at 01:35 AM

Here is the thread to deposit and discuss this week's vidcaps.
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"Press Images"
Posted by tribephyl on 04-18-14 at 01:41 AM
IC








@Camp








"Observations, speculation"
Posted by Flowerpower1 on 04-18-14 at 08:55 AM
Observations:

Tasha looks strong and stable in the challenge, so does Trish. Tony, Jeremiah, Woo, Kass, Spencer not so much.

Spencer, Jeremiah, and Tasha look cohesive.

Interesting to see Kass talking with Tony, then talking away from others with Tash. Clearly, I have to suspect that Kass is teetering between the two groups, and would like to target Tony somehow.

In the preview promo we hear Tony over-hearing Trish talking with Jefra and Jefra states that she doesn't want to be fooled by Tony. I can't help but wonder if Tony will hear someone like Kass considering options with Tasha/Spencer/Jeremiah, to the point of wanting her out. I wonder if he will try and work with Spencer and Jeremiah again? I could see him trying to bring the group together to vote for someone of mutual agreement...Kass? I don't know, clear spec.

Kass is also seen in many of the press images. Interesting to note that last week LJ's picture was the only post IC picture in the press images. I wonder if BBaper could get the time stamps for these pics, or if anyone could?

Also, is this Uncle Cameraman?


"RE: Observations, speculation"
Posted by mimo on 04-18-14 at 09:49 AM
Good catch FP! All I thought was "Jeremiah, eyes up!!" He really seems to be enjoying Tasha's assets..

Is that picture somehow related to the one of the three of them where Tasha and Spencer are carrying burlap bags filled with something? Could they have won reward?

Woo looks to be in good shape in those challenge shots. So if it's after his "fall" then seems like much ado about nothing.

The picture of them in the shelter is interesting. Kass and Jefra seem to be having fun. Jeremiah right in the middle (probably inspecting someone's assets.) Spencer in the corner next to Tasha and Trish lying down behind them. Is Trish plugging her ear? No Woo or Tony to be seen. (Sorry not entirely sure how to grab and incorporate the pictures....)

"RE: Observations, speculation"
Posted by Flowerpower1 on 04-18-14 at 10:34 AM
Regarding this shot:

To me it looks as though they are off collecting firewood, kindling, with the burlap sacks. Look right behind the lower half of Spencer's burlap sack, you can see a green manmade thing, what is that??

It's hard to conclude who is at camp, who isn't, and then deduce who could have won reward. We don't know which challenge is shown either, the RC or the IC. We see a camp pic of 6 of them, all but Tony and Woo, so do they win Reward, or one of them and then choose to take the other? I certainly could see Woo taking Tony and vice versa...I don't know...?

"RE: Observations, speculation"
Posted by Brownroach on 04-19-14 at 11:24 PM
LAST EDITED ON 04-19-14 AT 11:26 PM (EST)

I'm watching Cecil B. DeMille's "The Ten Commandments" right now, and I think I spotted Jeremiah in a walk-on role. He was wearing what looked like the same outfit, and the beard growth was about the same.

"RE: Observations, speculation"
Posted by Flowerpower1 on 04-20-14 at 09:28 AM
LOL! Hoppy Easter, BR!
"RE: Observations, speculation"
Posted by Georganna on 04-18-14 at 10:44 AM
LAST EDITED ON 04-22-14 AT 10:03 AM (EST)

(Sorry not entirely sure how to grab and incorporate the pictures....)

1. Right-click on the picture
2. Select "Properties" (at the bottom of the box)
3. Highlight (left-click, hold and slide) the entire "Address (URL)" (in the middle of the box) and right-click on the highlighted "Address"
4. Select "Copy" and "OK"
5. In your new post, position your mouse where you want the picture to appear
6. Right-click and select "Paste"
7. Preview and/or Post Message
8. And there it is!

"RE: Press Images Date/Time Stamps"
Posted by Sheldor on 04-20-14 at 05:04 AM
Here are the Date/Time Stamps for the Press Images

Camera Model: Canon EOS 5D Mark III

Assuming the camera was set to Pacific Time

PDT = UTC-7 (Pacific Daylight Time)
PHT = UTC+8 (Philippine Time)

Then the date and time in the Philippines would be +15 Hours

I added the image name from the CBS Press Express site. The images sorted by Date Picture Taken also have sequential image names.

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8/4/2013 09:34 PM (8/5/2013 12:34 PM?) 104359_D9385b.JPG

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8/4/2013 09:40 PM (8/5/2013 12:40 PM?) 104359_D9444b.JPG

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8/4/2013 10:23 PM (8/5/2013 01:23 PM?) 104359_D9666b.JPG

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8/5/2013 07:27 PM (8/6/2013 10:27 AM?) 104359_D10133b.JPG

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8/5/2013 07:58 PM (8/6/2013 10:58 AM?) 104359_D10392b.JPG

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8/5/2013 09:04 PM (8/6/2013 11:04 AM?) 104359_D10718b.JPG

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8/5/2013 09:13 PM (8/6/2013 11:13 AM?) 104359_D10799b.JPG

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8/6/2013 07:17 PM (8/7/2013 10:17 AM?) 104359_D11145b.JPG

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8/6/2013 07:24 PM (8/7/2013 10:24 AM?) 104359_D11198b.JPG

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8/6/2013 07:25 PM (8/7/2013 10:25 AM?) 104359_D11204b.JPG

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8/6/2013 07:25 PM (8/7/2013 10:25 AM?) 104359_D11215b.JPG

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"RE: Press Images Date/Time Stamps"
Posted by Flowerpower1 on 04-20-14 at 09:36 AM
Thanks so much for the time stamps and the sequence of the press images, Sheldor! Much appreciated! Interesting to note that the only pics after the IC are of Jeremiah, Spencer, and Tasha...food for thought?
"Post Show Promo"
Posted by tribephyl on 04-19-14 at 01:49 AM
Hope you had a wonderful vacation, MS! Thank you for returning!

Anyways...

Jeff Probst: Next time on Survivor...
Tony (spying on Jefra and Trish): Today, I'm on a mission.
Probst: Tony will stop at nothing to stay ahead of the game.
Jefra (talking to Trish): I'm sorry but I don't want to be fooled by Tony.
Trish: Oh my, look at them. (papayas)
Woo: Let me try to get up there.
Probst: While Woo's mission for food goes horribly wrong.
Woo (shaking tree: Yeah! Come on down, brother. *then falls*


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"RE: Post Show Promo"
Posted by dabo on 04-19-14 at 04:47 PM
LAST EDITED ON 04-19-14 AT 04:47 PM (EST)

Well, the angle is all wrong for him to fall on Trish. Could someone else be there to break his fall?

"RE: Post Show Promo"
Posted by tribephyl on 04-19-14 at 05:01 PM
Does someone have to be there to break his fall? It's like 9 ft max to the ground. To a semi-soft bushy landing. He'll be just fine.
"RE: Post Show Promo"
Posted by dabo on 04-19-14 at 05:17 PM
No, no one has to be there. But in the last image, fuzzied up as it is, it seems at least possible someone else is there.
"RE: Post Show Promo"
Posted by Outsider32 on 04-19-14 at 07:25 PM
Only people who want Kass to leave are hoping she is there for Woo to fall on.
"RE: Post Show Promo"
Posted by suzzee on 04-20-14 at 09:50 AM
The only thing press worthy surrounding Woo is if he gets hurt falling out of a tree and it's all over the promos so he's probably fine and gets a couple of confessionals about it.


I'm fine and that's my 15 minutes.

"two promos"
Posted by dabo on 04-19-14 at 11:48 PM
slive http://www.survivorfever.net/vc_s28_sl_ep9.html

Tony <camera confessional>: Right now, my red flag is raised because I blindsided LJ. I'm in trouble, so I'm gonna have to do something to get myself out of it. Most people, including myself, we go all the way to the water well because it's a bit further away from camp where people can't hear you. And that's where they talk strategy. So, I started working on some blueprints to make a nice little shack around the water well. The water well is 'here', there's a tree 'there', and I put some bushes and some shrubs and some broken branches where I can hide right in there. And I'm within five feet away. That's where I'll be the most patient, when I'm sitting in my spy shack.

tvised http://www.survivorfever.net/vc_s28_ep9_4_19.html

Announcer: Paranoia makes this cop go on a stakeout.

Jefra <talking to Trish at the water well while Tony spies on them>: I don't trust Tony. I'm okay with getting him out.

Tony <camera confessional>: I'm in trouble.


"RE: two promos"
Posted by suzzee on 04-20-14 at 09:54 AM
Why is it always him telling the viewers how much trouble he's in? His #spyshack is such a big pile that if someone doesn't notice it, they're really not paying attention. It looks like it's quite a bit of brush.
"RE: two promos"
Posted by dabo on 04-20-14 at 09:16 PM
LAST EDITED ON 04-20-14 AT 09:17 PM (EST)

And they would have to be blind to not notice the camera(s) aimed at spyshack, unless it(they) has its own spyshack(s).

"RE: two promos"
Posted by michel2 on 04-20-14 at 10:29 PM
What are the odds that Tony pushes the leaves aside and says: "Very Interesting"?
"RE: two promos"
Posted by dabo on 04-20-14 at 11:32 PM
lol

Of course, those shots (or some of them) could have been filmed out of sequence. But they have him from a couple of different angles.

"RE: two promos"
Posted by CTgirl on 04-21-14 at 09:38 AM
very interesting...but stupid!
"RE: two promos"
Posted by michel2 on 04-20-14 at 10:32 PM
If the cameraman is smart, he'd simply place himself so that Jefra and Trish stand between him and Tony and then he uses his zoom. The women would think the camera is pointing at them.
"RE: two promos"
Posted by Brownroach on 04-20-14 at 10:48 PM
His #spyshack is such a big pile that if someone doesn't notice it, they're really not paying attention.

I know. "Wait...look, there's the mesclun salad the Jolly Green Giant ordered. I wonder where he went..."

"420 Promo"
Posted by tribephyl on 04-21-14 at 04:25 AM
Transcripted by SF
Announcer: CBS, Wednesday, Tony, the hatchet man, has made himself a target.
Jefra (camera confessional): I don't feel safe with Tony.
Announcer: Now, paranoia makes this cop go on a stakeout.
Tony (camera confessional): I came up with the idea to make a spy shack.
Jefra (talking to Trish while Tony spies on them): I don't trust Tony. I'm okay with getting him out.
Tony (camera confessional): I'm in trouble.


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I'm guessing Tony must be stoned.


Yeah, I celebrate 420 a day late. It's a side effect.

"Verbage..."
Posted by Flowerpower1 on 04-21-14 at 08:39 AM
The preview promo gives us this:


Jeff Probst: Next time on Survivor...
Tony (spying on Jefra and Trish): Today, I'm on a mission.
Probst: Tony will stop at nothing to stay ahead of the game.
Jefra (talking to Trish): I'm sorry but I don't want to be fooled by Tony.
Trish: Oh my, look at them. (papayas)
Woo: Let me try to get up there.
Probst: While Woo's mission for food goes horribly wrong.
Woo (shaking tree: Yeah! Come on down, brother. *then falls*

This presents 2 scenarios. First Tony is paranoid recognizing that he is in trouble after the LJ blindside, goes on the offensive and stakes out Jefra, who he over hears saying she doesn't want to be fooled by Tony.

The second scenario is that Woo takes a fall.


Next we have this:


Tony <camera confessional>: Right now, my red flag is raised because I blindsided LJ. I'm in trouble, so I'm gonna have to do something to get myself out of it. Most people, including myself, we go all the way to the water well because it's a bit further away from camp where people can't hear you. And that's where they talk strategy. So, I started working on some blueprints to make a nice little shack around the water well. The water well is 'here', there's a tree 'there', and I put some bushes and some shrubs and some broken branches where I can hide right in there. And I'm within five feet away. That's where I'll be the most patient, when I'm sitting in my spy shack.

So, we know that Tony makes his spyshack and overhears Jefra. This is as he expected. It validates his paranoia. So, how does he deal with it? He must either work harder to convince Jefra of her safety, and target someone that was not in their alliance, OR, he needs to get rid of Jefra.

Did Tony agree to not target Spencer and Jeremiah last week if they went with him and votes LJ? If so, they should be safe....he has to prove to them as well that he can be trusted, or else he will become the target.

The next promo:


Announcer: Paranoia makes this cop go on a stakeout.

Jefra <talking to Trish at the water well while Tony spies on them>: I don't trust Tony. I'm okay with getting him out.

Tony <camera confessional>: I'm in trouble.


And finally:


Announcer: CBS, Wednesday, Tony, the hatchet man, has made himself a target.
Jefra (camera confessional): I don't feel safe with Tony.
Announcer: Now, paranoia makes this cop go on a stakeout.
Tony (camera confessional): I came up with the idea to make a spy shack.
Jefra (talking to Trish while Tony spies on them): I don't trust Tony. I'm okay with getting him out.
Tony (camera confessional): I'm in trouble.

Only once was the Woo falling brought up in the promos. Clearly, the main emphasis of the episode is placed on Tony and his spy shack.

Then we have the misdirection clues...

HOMESICK CASTAWAYS ARE GRANTED A BRIEF REPRIEVE WITH LETTERS FROM HOME, ON “SURVIVOR,” WEDNESDAY, APRIL 23

“Sitting in My Spy Shack” – Homesick castaways are granted a brief reprieve with letters from home. Meanwhile, one castaway secretly embarks on a stakeout to gather intel from the competition and another castaway falls hard while attempting to collect coconuts from the treetops, on SURVIVOR, Wednesday, April 23 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network

The misdirection clues bring up 3 things, letters from home, Woo falling, and Tony and his spyshack. I believe it's easy to see that the big story and perhaps the boot story will be related to how Tony either gets himself out of trouble...will he try to win over Jefra, or boot her?

"RE: Verbage..."
Posted by suzzee on 04-21-14 at 09:16 AM
I do love the way you cut through the brush to get at the point.


Corrupting teenage boys since, well,
none of your business how long...

"RE: Verbage..."
Posted by dabo on 04-21-14 at 10:24 AM
Applied OFG Theory: We do not see Jeremiah, Kass, Spencer or Tasha in the promos (only in the press images) so they are safe (unless it is a completely hidden boot).

We do see Jefra, Tony, Trish and Woo (and L.J. getting his torch snuffed). The alliance is broken and will not mend. Tony is wearing a target but may himself target Jefra or Trish.

We could be looking for a rare hidden winner (think Vecepia), though that would be perceived by many as an unsatisfying end to the season.

"RE: Verbage..."
Posted by Brownroach on 04-21-14 at 10:51 AM
LAST EDITED ON 04-21-14 AT 10:59 AM (EST)

Did Tony agree to not target Spencer and Jeremiah last week if they went with him and votes LJ? If so, they should be safe...

He said he wanted to keep them around in case he needed to make a "big move" at some point, and that they wouldn't be leaving next. He didn't officially promise them anything else. Arguably getting rid of LJ was a "big move" so Tony might feel he doesn't need Spencer or Jeremiah anymore.

But I think they're both safe this week. It could very well be Jefra's time to go. In a sense she was LJ's closest ally -- with him all the way from the beginning -- and now that he's gone she's not really tied to anyone. She's emerging out of the woodwork this week to argue for booting Tony, which development was set up after last TC when she turned and asked Tony if he flipped.

I can't see Jefra getting much of a storyline overall, so this week's episode may be the extent of it.


"RE: Verbage..."
Posted by Flowerpower1 on 04-21-14 at 02:47 PM
I can't see Jefra getting much of a storyline overall, so this week's episode may be the extent of it.

At this point....I agree! If it boils down to Jefra vs Tony, my money is on Tony. But, Tony's arc is in full swing and he's ripening quickly, imo. The biggest move in this game will be given to the one that takes Tony down.

"Web Promo"
Posted by tribephyl on 04-22-14 at 03:21 AM
Announcer: CBS, Survivor, Wednesday.
Spencer (camera confessional): Tony's not so predictable.
Tony: I blindsided LJ.
Announcer: His ruthless game play...
Tony: I couldn't tell you about LJ and...
Jefra: Can you tell me I'm on the bottom of the alliance?
Announcer: ...has made him a target.
Jefra (camera confessional): I don't feel safe with Tony.
Announcer: Now, paranoia makes this cop go on a stakeout.
Tony (camera confessional): I came up with the idea to make a spy shack where I can hide and I'm gonna hear everything.
Jefra (talking to Trish while Tony spies on them): I don't trust Tony. You know, he lied to my face. I'm okay with getting him out.
Tony (camera confessional): I'm in trouble.

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"RE: Web Promo"
Posted by suzzee on 04-22-14 at 10:49 AM
FP says:The biggest move in this game will be given to the one that takes Tony down.

The next set of promos has this shot and as a likely pair for a power move. These two both have thinking games although frantic comes to mind with Tony. Spencer has that HII and a huge move would be those two going head to head, Spencer playing the HII and Tony going out. Not this week though I would expect to see a really nice build up to happen if something like this comes about.




I should be watched....closely.

"RE: Web Promo"
Posted by Flowerpower1 on 04-22-14 at 06:03 PM
LAST EDITED ON 04-22-14 AT 06:04 PM (EST)

Great minds think alike, Hurley...I mean suzzee!

I saw that picture and I said, hmmmmm, foreshadowing perhaps? A very good sign for Spencer to be in a split frame with Tony. Pits one against the other! One is black, one is white....whoops, wrong show!

"RE: Web Promo"
Posted by michel2 on 04-22-14 at 08:38 PM
I could add that Spencer has a very Jacob-like posture.
"RE: Web Promo"
Posted by suzzee on 04-23-14 at 01:25 PM
The Lost game ahhh memories.


Suzzopolis by Tribe


"S28Ep09 "Rove, Rove, Rove Your Boat.""
Posted by Sheldor on 04-22-14 at 11:10 PM
Survivor Cagayan - Episode 9
Behind the Scenes of the Challenges
Promo Video Captures
Date: 4.22.14
http://www.survivorfever.net/vc_s28_challenge_ep9.html

Transcript by SurvivorFever.net:

John Kirhoffer: In this challenge, the tribes go out, four people in a boat and they pick up paddles. They come back and they make a cool Survivor phrase.

Jeff Probst: Okay, that does it for Behind the Scenes of "Rove, Rove, Rove Your Boat."

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"Finally!"
Posted by Georganna on 04-22-14 at 11:45 PM
A Challenge that looks like ... fun.