Tonight: someone goes to the jury.

Someone who is not Tony.

No matter what the episode's edit tries to lie about, it won't be Tony.

Regardless of the sheer number of idiot tricks thrown in own faces, it can't be Tony.

It doesn't even count if EPMB hands him a cross with three nails, then releases the inferior results to theaters. Still ain't Tony.

Because next week's already-released episode title is all his.

CBS: We May Figure This Spoiler Thing Out Yet.

No they won't.

• RE: Survivor #28 (Bennies? Boring. Bribery...!) Episode #8 East Coast Spoiler Thread,Brownroach, 08:02 PM, 04-16-14
  • So this is weird,Brownroach, 00:11 AM, 04-18-14
    • RE: So this is weird,tribephyl, 00:25 AM, 04-18-14
      • Never mind,Brownroach, 02:17 AM, 04-18-14
• RE: Survivor #28 (Bennies? Boring. Bribery...!) Episode #8 East Coast Spoiler Thread,Brownroach, 08:03 PM, 04-16-14
  • RE: Survivor #28 (Bennies? Boring. Bribery...!) Episode #8 East Coast Spoiler Thread,Estee, 08:04 PM, 04-16-14
    • RE: Survivor #28 (Bennies? Boring. Bribery...!) Episode #8 East Coast Spoiler Thread,michel2, 09:09 PM, 04-16-14
• RE: Survivor #28 (Bennies? Boring. Bribery...!) Episode #8 East Coast Spoiler Thread,Brownroach, 08:06 PM, 04-16-14
• RC tree mail - Spa Day,Brownroach, 08:09 PM, 04-16-14
• RE: Survivor #28 (Bennies? Boring. Bribery...!) Episode #8 East Coast Spoiler Thread,Estee, 08:10 PM, 04-16-14
• RE: Survivor #28 (Bennies? Boring. Bribery...!) Episode #8 East Coast Spoiler Thread,Estee, 08:11 PM, 04-16-14
• RC,Brownroach, 08:14 PM, 04-16-14
  • RE: RC,dabo, 08:16 PM, 04-16-14
• RE: Survivor #28 (Bennies? Boring. Bribery...!) Episode #8 East Coast Spoiler Thread,Estee, 08:16 PM, 04-16-14
• RE: Survivor #28 (Bennies? Boring. Bribery...!) Episode #8 East Coast Spoiler Thread,Estee, 08:19 PM, 04-16-14
• Post RC back at camp,Brownroach, 08:21 PM, 04-16-14
• Post RC at Spa,Brownroach, 08:24 PM, 04-16-14
• RE: Survivor #28 (Bennies? Boring. Bribery...!) Episode #8 East Coast Spoiler Thread,dabo, 08:24 PM, 04-16-14
• Let me know if this sounds familiar,Estee, 08:25 PM, 04-16-14
• RE: Survivor #28 (Bennies? Boring. Bribery...!) Episode #8 East Coast Spoiler Thread,dabo, 08:28 PM, 04-16-14
• Back from reward,Brownroach, 08:30 PM, 04-16-14
  • RE: Back from reward,dabo, 08:36 PM, 04-16-14
• RE: Survivor #28 (Bennies? Boring. Bribery...!) Episode #8 East Coast Spoiler Thread,Estee, 08:35 PM, 04-16-14
• IC,Brownroach, 08:37 PM, 04-16-14
  • RE: IC,tribephyl, 09:14 PM, 04-16-14
    • RE: IC,dabo, 09:19 PM, 04-16-14
    • RE: IC,Brownroach, 09:34 PM, 04-16-14
      • RE: IC,Georganna, 09:20 PM, 04-17-14
        • RE: IC,Brownroach, 10:24 PM, 04-17-14
        • RE: IC,udg, 00:40 AM, 04-18-14
• RE: Survivor #28 (Bennies? Boring. Bribery...!) Episode #8 East Coast Spoiler Thread,Estee, 08:38 PM, 04-16-14
  • RE: Survivor #28 (Bennies? Boring. Bribery...!) Episode #8 East Coast Spoiler Thread,michel2, 10:42 PM, 04-16-14
• Post IC,Brownroach, 08:47 PM, 04-16-14
• RE: Survivor #28 (Bennies? Boring. Bribery...!) Episode #8 East Coast Spoiler Thread,Estee, 08:51 PM, 04-16-14
  • RE: Survivor #28 (Bennies? Boring. Bribery...!) Episode #8 East Coast Spoiler Thread,michel2, 09:13 PM, 04-16-14
• TC,Brownroach, 08:54 PM, 04-16-14
  • Who voted for whom,Brownroach, 09:03 PM, 04-16-14
    • RE: Who voted for whom,michel2, 09:18 PM, 04-16-14
      • RE: Who voted for whom,Georganna, 10:55 PM, 04-16-14
        • RE: Who voted for whom,Brownroach, 11:16 PM, 04-16-14
          • RE: Who voted for whom,Georganna, 12:57 PM, 04-18-14
            • Well, I'll be shufflin'off to Hades!!,Georganna, 01:40 PM, 04-25-14
  • Congrats!,dabo, 09:06 PM, 04-16-14
    • RE: Congrats!,Brownroach, 09:06 PM, 04-16-14
      • RE: Congrats!,Georganna, 09:14 PM, 04-16-14
        • RE: Congrats!,Brownroach, 09:59 PM, 04-16-14
      • RE: Congrats!,dabo, 11:29 PM, 04-16-14
        • RE: Congrats!,Brownroach, 11:48 PM, 04-16-14
          • RE: Congrats!,RachelOH1, 00:06 AM, 04-17-14
            • RE: Congrats!,Brownroach, 00:29 AM, 04-17-14
    • RE: Congrats!,personofinterest, 10:21 AM, 04-17-14
• RE: Survivor #28 (Bennies? Boring. Bribery...!) Episode #8 East Coast Spoiler Thread,Estee, 08:55 PM, 04-16-14

LAST EDITED ON 04-16-14 AT 09:12 PM (EST)

The voiceover confirmed that what Spencer found wasn't the Tyler Perry idol (or, more specifically, wasn't the "idol with special powers").

LAST EDITED ON 04-18-14 AT 00:12 AM (EST)

Jeff's voiceover recap of the last episode said that Spencer found an idol, but that it was not "the idol with special powers." As if the "idol with special powers" had already been brought up during the show. But it wasn't, at least not that I remember. Plus, it implied that the "idol with special powers" is out there, waiting to be found by someone.

So, WTF?

As if the "idol with special powers" had already been brought up during the show. But it wasn't, at least not that I remember.
It was. At the merge, the idol with special powers was mentioned by JP. Noting that it will be hidden at camp.

Oh yeah. I even recounted it in the EC Spoiler Thread that week. Duh. So sorry.

Tony is pissed that he got votes at TC. Arguing with those who voted against him.

LAST EDITED ON 04-16-14 AT 08:05 PM (EST)

He doesn't understand why anyone would want to vote him out.

...really?

I can understand why he's confused: Survivor has always been about keeping the most deserving. That's why so many in the finals were called Goats which means Greatest of all times, no?

LJ and Trish wondering how paranoid Tony will get, will he do something stupid? Now Tony and LJ talking. Tony in confessional wants LJ gone (Heh, I was wrong about that). Tony tells LJ that Woo probably has an idol. But the point, in confessional, is that he's trying to set up LJ, not Woo.

Tony needs to win in order to strategize.

Tony is now afraid of the wrong people winning Reward because bonding may result.

I thought Benji was out of this season.

Jeff offers the reward of a spa day.

Kass blows up the spa. Because chaos.

LAST EDITED ON 04-16-14 AT 08:15 PM (EST)

Three teams of three. Reward: shower, shampoo, massage, lunch, cocktails.

Jeremiah, Spence and Tony lead off.

Woo, Tasha and Kass last on first stage.

J, T and S still well ahead. They win reward!

Tony wants to talk to J and S about blindsiding LJ.

LAST EDITED ON 04-16-14 AT 08:16 PM (EST)

Tony names himself "the Opportunist." What, like he's politician guy now?

Tony forgets the other rule of group Rewards: while the cat is away, the mice make alliances.

But promo, so forget it.

Woo gets the post-break confessional.

Goodbye, Woo.

Woo wanted the food. He thinks Tony will keep an eye on J and S.

Jefra talks. She thinks they will stick together. LJ talks to Jefra and Trish. He thinks he and Tony are still solid. They agree they need to calm Tony down, and stay with the plan.

Spencer tells Tony that he and Jeremiah are pawns that Tony can use to his advantage. Tony wants to keep them until he wants to make a big move. He promises they will not get voted out next. Spencer doesn't trust Tony, but will tell him that he does, to get further along.

Now the "Op" is showing his arrogance again.

And Tony made sixty billion alliances.

damn, dome freeze

Tasha wants someone to Flip. Sets sights on LJ. But the timing is not right for a meeting. And anyway, LJ trusts Tony. Uh-oh. LJ stands up Tasha. More uh-oh. LJ in trouble according to Tony, if he doesn't win immunity.

glad it's just me whose CBS affiliate imploded, I'll have to watch tomorrow online

The great joy of this challenge is waiting for I Am So A Genius Kass to lose.

And there she goes.

Colored tiles. Repeat back the order. Really?

First round: yellow blue red green

Trish gets blue wrong! she's out

Woo is out on red!

2:
Red green purple black blue green blue

Jefra, Kass, Spencer, Jeremiah out on six.

Tasha defeats Tony and LJ with blue on seven and wins immunity.

LJ wants to split the votes between Spencer and Jeremiah at TC. Things not looking good for LJ.

LJ wants to split the votes between Spencer and Jeremiah at TC.

LJ was going for a tie? WTF? No wonder he couldn't see the knife. He couldn't see the numbers either.

No, his math was right. 3-way tie, six revote when it is one against five.

I guess the idea was that, on the revote, Spencer, Jeremiah, and the person that they and Tasha voted for -- let's say LJ since they did in fact vote for him -- would be excluded from voting. So, theoretically only Tasha would revote for LJ, while Kass, Trish, Jefra, Woo, and Tony could still split their votes 3-2 to get out either Spencer or Jeremiah, or plant all five votes on one of them.

If the initial vote had produced a three-way tie but Spencer had played his HII (negating the votes against him), would he then have been allowed to participate in the re-vote?

In this case, whether only one - or two - votes could have been cast against a probable five makes no difference, but I can imagine other circumstances when it very well might.

I kind of think: No. But, possibly. In any case, Spencer would have been ineligible to be voted for on the revote.

Jeff always says that votes against the person "don't count", so it would be as if no one had voted for Spence, which should allow him to vote in a revote if he played his idol.

Tasha?

Anyone call that?

And now, we lure out the idol...

I didn't call it but she has been very impressive this year so we shouldn't be surprised.

LAST EDITED ON 04-16-14 AT 09:09 PM (EST)

Tasha happy she won. In your face, LJ!

LJ wants to stick to plan. Girls vote J, boys vote S. Tony still wants LJ out, but has work to do. He tells Woo that LJ wants to blindside Woo. Woo is gullible enough to believe Tony. Then Tony tells Spencer that he wants to get rid of LJ. Spencer agrees and talks to Jeremiah. Now Tony's talking to Trish. She doesn't know what to believe. Tony may have to stick with his alliance, and kiss ass and get rid of Spencer or Jeremiah.

Kass feels a player must be 100% selfish to advance.

The story of a loss in one sentence.

Funniest moment of the evening was when Kass said it would be dumb to make a big move so early. I'm still laughing and now it hurts!

LAST EDITED ON 04-16-14 AT 08:55 PM (EST)

Tony says he brought his Bag of Tricks. Bluffing that he has an idol, presumably.

Lies that he works in construction, after he already told everyone he is a cop.

Woo says our six is still strong, they should take out the bottom three.

Time to vote

Spencer votes LJ

Votes:

No idol played

LJ
LJ
LJ
Jeremiah
Jeremiah
Jeremiah
Spencer
LJ
LJ! voted out!
Whew!

Jefra mouths to Tony, "Did you flip? Wow."

LAST EDITED ON 04-16-14 AT 09:06 PM (EST)

LJ votes - Tony, Woo, Spencer, Tasha, Jeremiah

Jeremiah votes - Kass, Trish, Jefra (as planned)

Spencer vote - LJ

Next week: more Tony, more Woo. Looks like Woo may get injured falling out of a tree.

You know; Spencer, Tasha and Jeremiah could team up with Kass and Jefra to gain majority or stay with Woo and Tony. There's chaos on both sides though.

Why not Spencer, Tasha, Jeremiah, Jefra and Trish (a much more stable group) and leave Tony, Woo and Kass to all of the chaos that the three of them can manage within their trio ... in three cycles?

Or would Spencer get bored?

The thing is that Trish is unconnected to anyone in that group except, vaguely, Jefra. She's still connected to Tony and Woo as original members of Brawn. And she also pulled Kass in when it was perceived as needed.

I certainly think that Trish was, at Day 26 (the 'morning after'), more connected to Tony than to anyone else in the Solarrion camp. In fact, we've heard as much from her. But by then she had also spent fourteen of those days with Jefra (and with LJ). And I don't think that we've seen any indication that there was anything but a pleasant, cooperative relationship between the two women. So, in Survivor's immediate-intimacy environment, I wouldn't call that two-week relationship 'vague'.

But then, I wish I hadn't used the word 'stable' to describe a theoretical alliance composed of three Cancer, a Pisces and a Gemini when the word 'compatible' - as in naturally-connected - would have been more apt.

Cancer (Trish, Spencer and Jefra) are instinctively maternal (nurturing/possessive) individuals. So, their natural approach to alliances is familial - the environment that is also most comfortable for their cocoon-prone fellow Water Sign natives – Pisces (Tasha and Woo).

And, most particularly in Survivor’s culture of chaos and crisis, Gemini (Jeremiah) virtually require the shelter and calming influences of an attentive, settled alliance. In the Game’s history, no group has been credited with more social mayhem than anxious Gemini unnerved by the constant state of cultural climate change and intense competition surrounding them. No group except, of course, really enraged Virgo.

However, as Spencer has reminded us, in the Game it is often marriages of convenience between otherwise incompatible personalities – Sagittarius’ (Tony’s and Kass’) forte – that carry the day. After the next day. After the next day.

So, whatever the eventual outcome, it is going to be interesting to see if Tony was able to waltz right back into his previous alliance (as he seemed to believe he would be) despite his in-her-face destruction of Trish’s conviction that she was managing her family unit (including Tony) very nicely, thank you.

Because I think that, after dancing around the issue for 25 days, it will be his casual disregard of her domestic leadership and his abandonment of what, I am convinced, she believed to be a partnership in which she had the advantage – and not the loss of LJ – that will most anger and alarm Trish (who very much planned to allow Tony to help her win the million).

So, I am really curious to know what she’ll do about it. Because, as Morgan has so well demonstrated, Cancer simply do not relinquish a grudge. Ever …

It may have been more soft shoe than waltz, but the ol' boy did it ...

Round Robin!

And U.

Both!

And also to CTgirl, who didn't vote but was zeroing in on LJ in the other threads.

LAST EDITED ON 04-16-14 AT 11:35 PM (EST)

Thank you. To be honest, it was a last minute vote change. I was thinking Woo or Jeremiah most of the week, but neither really felt right. L.J. had the confessionals pattern, would they run that play a third time in a row? Took a chance, turned out they did.

That said, I really do hope I'm wrong about Jefra's potential quit, but after this she should think about her position in her alliance, all the links in the chain obviously are not equal.

Will someone post something about the coming attraction soon? I've been waiting. I only got to see the first half-hour of the show because my CBS station went kplooey (as did my Fox affiliate, they share facilities, so I couldn't even switch to the singers). What is in store for next week?

The second half of the preview concerned Woo on a quest for food, and it showed him fairly high up in a tree trying to shake down some fruit (presumably) and then falling out of the tree backward. Implying he may get seriously injured. (Medevac? But I think probably not.)

The first part had Tony shooting off his mouth again, but I don't remember what he was saying.

LAST EDITED ON 04-17-14 AT 00:08 AM (EST)

In the jungle, Trish & Jefra were talking about Tony. Jefra was saying, "I'm sorry but I don't want to be fooled by Tony".... while Tony is spying on them. #SpyShack!

Then Woo is up a tree and falls out.
Edited to add: I just watched it in slow-mo and it looks like he gets his feet below him before he lands....(originally he is going down back-first).

LAST EDITED ON 04-17-14 AT 00:35 AM (EST)

That's right I do remember Jefra saying that. And then Tony made some sort of weird braying noise.

Eta: I wonder if this, following her question to Tony post-TC, puts Jefra at risk this week.

Congrats to all who were correct! I pegged LJ as probably winning the immunity challenge, so I never considered him.

This season has been fun without too many clues to go on. Tony sure is a nut job, though. Watching him has been entertaining.

Oh, dear. Was someone just on the wrong side of the chaos?