Okay, it said 200 characters before I post any possible spoilers, so I'll take a second to introduce myself.. Ashleigh is in fact my name, though I am in no way rich.. The other part of the phrase? Debatable. =P Okay, ummmm..

Is it 200 yet?

How about now?

la la la la la...

Okay, should be safe now.

All the evicted housemates are coming back, as shown on the preview. But why??

To vote off the remaining cast members!

Think about the math.. Let's say Matt votes for Ashleigh. The producers want to get rid of Brian. Brian and Ashleigh can't vote for themselves. So what happens? Hutch and Ashleigh both vote for Brian, and Brian can either vote for Hutch or Matt, since we don't need to explain a tie. And since Hutch or Matt would have immunity, that makes it even more difficult to rig the vote without it being obvious.

And then once you're down to three housemates, both actors would have to vote for the Producer's Choice, but what if Matt votes for Ashleigh and they want Hutch gone? Let's say Matt has immunity, and Hutch can't vote for himself so he HAS to vote for Ashleigh, and Boom! Matt dictates the outcome.

It's too hard to rig the voting at this point of the show, so the evictees shall take over that role. ;)

Anyone have a better theory?

• RE: (SPOILERS) The Reason for That Thing in the Latest Preview,erikman, 10:30 PM, 10-07-03
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        • Danno and MandyM are both right.,sleeeve, 00:56 AM, 10-08-03
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LAST EDITED ON 10-07-03 AT 10:32 PM (EST)

or just let hutch win the last 2 ic's matt likes brian better then the chick

True, but Matt might want to take Ashleigh to the Final Two instead of Brian, if he thinks he has a better chance to win the money against her. I don't think he would, but I doubt the producers would want to take that chance. He's already proven himself somewhat unpredictable, as shown with the hands on the hooker game.

so what she makes f3 no problem as long as hutch wins

The "so what" is that the producers don't care who Matt votes for, they want to call the shots. And it's too hard for them to believably rig the outcome with only 4 people voting, one of whom is immune. Then it's even worse for them when there's 3 people voting and one of them immune.

That is probably why they have brought in the the people who were evicted from the house, because with four, its as you said, difficult to rig. But it could still be rigged with only 4 people, with 3 it would be even more difficult. But with 4, Hutch will probably have immunity, Matt will probably vote once again for Ashleigh, and then Brian has to vote for her, and they could get Hutch to vote for her too.

I don't think Matt would rather take Ashleigh to the final two instead of Brian, you could tell he was getting incredibly fed up with her and how she was acting, and how she would always talk bad about Molly. Though now that Molly is gone, she will probably tone down a little, though she will still probably carry on about things Matt wants nothing to do with. I believe he thinks he has a better chance with Brian in the final few, because with Ashleigh, she could always backstab him, and he knows Brian wouldn't do something like that

Everything you said sounds right. It has to be that way to keep control over the outcome.

Also, for the record (and I'm not being a wiseguy here) A THEORY you have, or something you think MIGHT happen, is NOT considered a "spoiler"
A spoiler would be....well, a SPOILER! LOL
Information that would spoil it for the rest of us that aren't privy to the info you have.

If I say "I THINK Hutch will be kicked off next because..."
That's NOT a spoiler

If I say "Here's what's going to happen in the last episode. The secret will be revaealed to Matt, he gets REALLY angry at first, but is relieved when he finds out that he's not only the winner of the fake show, but he's in fact won FIVE hundred thousand dollars..."

THAT would be a spoiler. Anything that I state as FACT. Like inside source type stuff. ;)

I just wanted to save you time from having to use all that filler before making your post.

-Danno

I thought I was supposed to mark it because I was talking about the preview of the next episode that some people might not have seen yet? *shrugs* Better safe than sorry. *nods* Thanks for the clarification.

Ashleigh, hon, you have it excactly right...don't listen to the one-post poster. And HURRAY for you for reading the guidelines! If only others would be so kind! You did good! And you are right, it is better to be safe than sorry!

MM Why do we kill people who kill people to show that killing people is wrong?

The "one-post poster"???

You're right, I couldn't POSSIBLY have ANY IDEA what I'm talking about because I've only made one post here, right?

And of course I've probably NEVER posted to ANY other message board before in my life, right?

A spoiler, the definition of a spoiler, and the etiquette regarding a spoilers, is NOT unique to JUST THIS message board. What I stated would apply to ANY message board. How to handle a spoiler may differ, but what is and isn't a spoiler wouldn't change. What she posted simply wouldn't be considered as such.

What doesn't change from message board to message board are post-counters like yourself who look down on people who don't have a thousand posts, so they can't belong to your little "clique"

My post to her was thoughtful, respectful, informative, and had a light-hearted tone to it.
Her response to me was equally respectful and thankful.
You just HAD to follow it up by putting me down because I "only have one post"
Congrats! Your insult-post to me is yet another to add to your growing count and superiority of others.

Thanks very much for the warm welcome.

Danno

Danno is right that this post is not a spoiler... it is speculation based on promos. On this message board, we ask that people add filler to the start of their posts if the post contains spoilers. We do not restrict posts containing speculation, although many posters choose to label speculative posts as "potential spoilers" so that users who wish to discuss previous episodes without having future surprises ruined by educated guesses can avoid those posts.

MandyM is right that it's always better to be safe than sorry! Thanks to Ashleigh for reading the guidelines and following them. I'd much rather read 200 words of filler only to find out that the spoiler was mere speculation than read a spoiler when I didn't want to know the outcome.

That said, it would be better to label posts as "potential spoilers" or "speculation" when your post does not contain decisive facts. Some people (like me!) that really want to know what happens next get their hopes up when they see the spoiler warning, and not everyone is as nice as me .

"Potential" or "Speculation" would be a much better label for it next time, thanks for the advice Sleeeve. Although I must say I feel quite confident in my prediction. ^_- Still, sorry if it was a little disappointing.

Everyone, let's please not get into any arguments over such a silly thing.. Please?

Misto *hearts* Mandy

That's not a spoiler or speculation it's the absolute truth!

--loves tripoli too but doesn't want to force him to <<smooch>> her in public

hrmm.. this is gonna be tough. I have a strong feeling Matt wouldn't want Ashleigh to be in the finals with him but you never know what those writers/producers will do for ratings. (I know I watch Joe for Ashleigh heh heh.. >_<) I think it kinda depends on how he feels. If he feels like a certain win, he'll take Hutch with him to the end because (if the final vote works similar to previous survivors where the dead get to vote) Matt knows they'll all vote for him. If he feels generous and wants a good fight, he'll take Brian with him. I don't really care much for voting though... I wanna see Matt's reaction to everything and if he totally flips out.. that'd be great... not in that evil, i-want-to-drive-you-insane kind of way... but yeah.

I wonder... if Angela did happen to be single and Matt learned of this... you think he'd try something on her? *wink wink* or Melissa even... like.. c'mon. I know I would if I were single... But I'm not...

ok.. i'm just gonna go now....

well i looked at spike the 21 will be the GQ awards so it looks like this show is only 9ep's unless the 28's ep is 2 hours half live. so we get to f2 next week.

It will probably be a 2 hour episode and I don't know if it will be "live" because do they really have money in the budget for doing that? And it if they were to do something, they would probaly will do something along the lines of showing Matt he close calls they had, or show him his reaction to certain things, or where he acted unexpectedly and they tell him what they had expected of him.. Thats assuming of course, he doesnt get horribly upset and, and storms out of the mansion and walk off after they tell him...

And it most likely is only9 episodes, because well, Episode 8 is on next Tuesday and on the 21st..

all the pre season pub said there will be 10 ep's how much does it cost to do a live show not much. and since they only paid him 10,000 so far they need to give him his check. this show has money look at all the sponcers it had and how much viacom put into it.

Just popping in here to say welcome to Ashleigh.

We really do have guidelines here. Believe it or not, the Guidelines make things more fun. Really.

Also, don't forget they are spoofing just about everything other Reality TV shows have done, and the idea of bringing back cast-out members to votes on remaining players has been done on the "real" shows. (Though as far as I know, it's usually only on the last episode??)

Isn't the next episode the last "real fake" one before the behind the scenes one? Then it may make sense.

Ashleigh (ugh I hope I spelled that right), I think you were OK to put the filler in there because they show the promo after the show and therefore people who haven't seen the show haven't even had the opportunity to maybe see the promo, plus the promo wasn't on Spike's web site yet either. So if I was on the west coast I would have appreciated your caution even if I didn't require it for my viewing pleasure.

What I think would be the best way for then to reveal the truth to Matt is if the final 2 are Matt and Hutch, then they have the 'evicted' members vote, and have Hutch win with all the votes. Matt can't believe that they all voted for Hutch, they all string him on with lame excuses like, Hutch deserves it for making it so far with immunity, etc. Then just when Matt is about to blow, say, oh just kidding, this is all fake, everything was rigged, then see how long it takes for Matts head to explode!!!

I like it!!!!!
jimbo

They're ending it early?

I guess it would get boring if there were only Matt and one or two other players.