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Title: "Gloves Come Off"

EW Tease:
JP: Next week… Vytas has a role reversal – this time he’s the one getting picked on — can he survive?

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11.21.2013 Press Release

A CASTAWAY’S BOLD MOVE COULD SMOKE OUT THE IMMUNITY IDOL OR EXTINGUISH THEIR OWN FLAME, ON “SURVIVOR: BLOOD vs. WATER,” WEDNESDAY, NOV. 27

"Gloves Come Off” – A castaway’s bold move could either smoke out the hidden immunity idol or extinguish their own flame. Also, one castaway is in hot water after playing both sides of the tribe, and two moms pull a less-than-maternal move at the Redemption arena, on SURVIVOR: BLOOD vs. WATER, Wednesday, Nov. 27 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.

http://www.cbspressexpress.com/cbs-entertainment/shows/survivor-blood-vs-water/releases/view?id=37403

and our boot story is...
one castaway is in hot water after playing both sides of the tribe
So far the only sides are Katie vs everyone else.
And since Katie's only connection to the other side seems to be with Ciera, my guess is that Ciera is the "hot water" castaway.

This is going to be an interesting episode. There are several possible boot stories in the clues.

1. A CASTAWAY’S BOLD MOVE COULD SMOKE OUT THE IMMUNITY IDOL OR EXTINGUISH THEIR OWN FLAME

We saw this in the promos. Hayden noting that Tyson has been in control for the entire game, and then suggesting to Cierra that they vote out Tyson at the next TC. We see him talking with Caleb at the start.

Another interesting thing to note is that Hayden is prime for a blindside himself, as last episode he had a nice confessional where he noted that, "right now I trust Tyson, and I think he has my back...I think I can trust him". This is the kiss of death in Survivor. He's feeling a little too comfortable, and it could be the beginning of his downfall.

2. one castaway is in hot water after playing both sides of the tribe

Well, it could indeed be Cierra because Cierra thinks she can be F3 with Tyson/Gervase as well as with Hayden/Caleb. But, Cierra is sitting pretty which ever way she goes, so why would she tell Tyson and foil the plan when the plan serves her just as much as Hayden/Caleb? It may not be Cierra that plays both sides. I think it may be Katie. Katie noted in the last episode that she was not in the 7, (now 6), and that she needed to let them start fighting so she could find a way in. Clearly, this is an opportunity for her to go from at least F7 to perhpas F3. Katie is the one on the bottom, and may see a way to wheel and deal for a higher spot. Katie and Cierra both have mothers that are likely to be on the jury, and therefore I don't think the tribe will let them near the end game. I just don't want to discount Katie as the one that is in hot water after playing both sides.

LAST EDITED ON 11-22-13 AT 09:01 AM (EST)

But Katie is already in hot waters so any move wouldn't be bad for her.

There was a insider clip where Ciera said she does not want to work with Katie because they are too much alike. In the last episode she told her mom that there was no chance the guys would choose to bring Katie instead of her. If Hayden and Caleb want their move to succeed, they need Katie. That should push Ciera to the other side.

Since Tyson will need Ciera, I think the "hot water" is misdirection. The boot will be the one that wants to make the bold move, Hayden. Didn't he agree with Tyson that booting Laura meant clear sailing to the end? Didn't he say that one wrong move could cost you a million dollars? That's a nice set-up.

I see it playing out similarly. Either way, this episode will answer a lot of the questions I have about Tyson's 'halo' edit thus far. One disonnect I've been having trouble with is that usually, when one person is in control like him, he has to betray people to get to the end and takes responsibility for it, which we've seen in the past causes juries to be really vindictive. If the foreshadowing of him and Gervase going to the end plays out, I have had a hard time seeing how he could win that vote, since Gervase hasn't got his hands as dirty. But Gervase, while likable, hasn't really been pushed as a winner in my opinion.

But, a couple of things could turn in Tyson's favour - 1) if he votes out people that turn on him first, or 2) if he gets voted out and goes through redemption, thus becoming an underdog. The foreshadowing is there for both; his easy explanation of the Aras vote that shut Tina up could be his defense in front of the jury - 'sorry, but you were about to vote me out, right?' Alternatively, his 'you guys are going down at Redemption' could also be prescient.

If you watch the After Show with Aras, it's Caleb that first suggests they go after Tyson. I'm thinking the four newbies do join forces and try to vote out Tyson, but he gets wind of their plan. Plays his idol. The question is who do they (Tyson, Gervase and Monica) target. The strongest physical threat would be Hayden, unless he wins immunity, then... Caleb? He has had such a non existing edit, he had two confessionals last episode (set up for his boot in Ep. 11?).

This would also set up an interesting situation for Ep 12 with two sets of three. Neither set may want to stitch their votes, knowing the other three will not take them to the final. Possibly a Purple Rock situation in Ep. 12? Jeff did say there was something happening that has only happened once before.

bbaper: Yup. I posted the YouTube link to the After Show below (See post #10) http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/DCForumID2/8136.shtml#10

I also transcribed the conversation.

However, the "Survivor: Blood vs. Water - Gloves Come Off (Preview)" that just came out is ALL about that Ciera is the BIGGEST Target in the game!

Thanks, Walter...

This is an interesting week. I went and watched the aftershow, and you are right, Caleb is the one that seemingly brings the blindside up. But, in the promo, it "appears" to be Hayden...they are editing it that way. Maybe for a reason? Regardless, the two clues...
1. A castaway’s bold move could either smoke out the hidden immunity idol or extinguish their own flame.
This is clearly looking more like Caleb

2. one castaway is in hot water after playing both sides of the tribe Clearly this is Cierra as the promo notes.

So, to sum it up, one of the newbies is walking the walk, either Caleb or Cierra. Cierra had nice foreshadowing moments as Suzzee noted....Cierra was noted to be smart and making moves of her own by Tyson, while Hayden noted that he trusted Tyson and that Tyson had his back.

Looking at it from this light, makes me think that possibly Hayden could be the one to let Tyson know that they were gunning for him. Afterall, we heard him tell Vytas that he would be the one.

I am leaning toward Tyson playing his idol, and bouncing someone, possibly Caleb or Cierra. Still not sure as to which one.

I do love the idea of the purple rock next episode and if Jiffy did say that there was something happening that has only happened once before, it gives me hope that it will again! Good thinking!

two moms pull a less-than-maternal move at the Redemption arena

Could this mean that Laura and Tina beat Vytas?! I had thought that Vytas would be the returning player but they had a nice wrap up of the sibling story last week when Aras exited.

I think that a "less than maternal" move is meant to indicate something between the mothers and their daughters.

But what could that be, since the moms are competing with each other, not with their daughters? Guilt trips to get the daughter to switch places, perhaps? Maybe (as you mention) they both win and Vytas is sent to Ponderosa (where he would have to have a conversation with Aras about his remarks) and the "less than maternal" aspect is simply that both moms would technically still be potentially competing with their daughters, thus putting a cloud on each daughter's aspirations?

But since Laura seems more competitive than Tina (IMO), and Cierra is more worried about how Laura could be a negative in her game, this would point to the dynamic (such as is is) being between Laura and Cierra.

I suspect that in the end this will be a pre-episode lure by the producers, and not really amount to much.

I'd think so CT what else would they do to him, kick him out of the shelter?

I should be watched....closely.