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"Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir""
Posted by tribephyl on 03-14-12 at 05:16 PM
Hmmm... sounds as if Colton finally recognizes the power of the idol he possesses.I'd include JP's previous tout about "History making blahbiddyblah" but methinks he'll have a different one to offer soon.
Table of contents
- RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir",jasonkola, 05:36 PM, 03-14-12
- Jeff's aphasia ,Outfrontgirl, 06:52 AM, 03-15-12
- RE: Jeff's aphasia ,Flowerpower, 09:04 AM, 03-15-12
- RE: Jeff's aphasia ,Outfrontgirl, 09:23 AM, 03-15-12
- RE: Jeff's aphasia ,tullfan, 10:06 AM, 03-15-12
- RE: Jeff's aphasia ,Flowerpower, 10:12 AM, 03-15-12
- RE: Jeff's aphasia ,Blind Freddy, 11:13 AM, 03-15-12
- RE: Jeff's aphasia ,PepeLePew13, 10:10 AM, 03-15-12
- E6 Press release,Blind Freddy, 02:47 PM, 03-15-12
- RE: E6 Press release,Flowerpower, 03:00 PM, 03-15-12
- RE: E6 Press release,b1whois, 03:26 PM, 03-15-12
- RE: E6 Press release,jasonkola, 03:30 PM, 03-15-12
- RE: E6 Press release,tullfan, 07:12 PM, 03-15-12
- RE: E6 Press release,PepeLePew13, 07:24 PM, 03-15-12
- RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir",dabo, 05:06 PM, 03-15-12
- RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir",beaglemaster, 08:32 AM, 03-16-12
- RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir",dabo, 10:52 AM, 03-16-12
- RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir",Flowerpower, 08:05 AM, 03-17-12
- RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir",tullfan, 08:26 PM, 03-17-12
- RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir",Outfrontgirl, 08:36 PM, 03-17-12
- RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir",tullfan, 10:02 AM, 03-18-12
- RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir",byoffer, 10:46 AM, 03-16-12
- RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir",Flowerpower, 01:26 PM, 03-16-12
- RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir",Outfrontgirl, 09:34 PM, 03-15-12
- RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir",samboohoo, 09:52 AM, 03-16-12
- RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir",Outfrontgirl, 03:10 AM, 03-16-12
- RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir",Flowerpower, 07:38 AM, 03-16-12
- RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir",PepeLePew13, 09:14 AM, 03-16-12
- RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir",VolcanicGlass, 10:44 AM, 03-16-12
- RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir",Round Robin, 05:16 PM, 03-16-12
- RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir",Flowerpower, 09:19 PM, 03-16-12
- RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir",Outfrontgirl, 11:42 PM, 03-16-12
- RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir",dabo, 02:26 AM, 03-17-12
- RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir",Outfrontgirl, 07:34 AM, 03-17-12
- RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir",Flowerpower, 08:10 AM, 03-17-12
- RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir",Outfrontgirl, 11:07 AM, 03-17-12
- RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir",Outfrontgirl, 11:36 PM, 03-16-12
- RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir",Karchita, 06:15 PM, 03-16-12
- RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir",dabo, 05:25 PM, 03-17-12
- RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir",jasonkola, 06:32 PM, 03-17-12
- RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir",Outfrontgirl, 08:29 PM, 03-17-12
- RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir",jasonkola, 09:02 PM, 03-17-12
- RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir",dabo, 09:52 PM, 03-17-12
- RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir",KObrien_fan, 08:28 PM, 03-18-12
- RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir",KObrien_fan, 09:15 PM, 03-17-12
- RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir",PepeLePew13, 09:24 PM, 03-17-12
- RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir",knuckles487, 09:40 PM, 03-17-12
- RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir",dabo, 09:59 PM, 03-17-12
- RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir",PepeLePew13, 10:13 PM, 03-17-12
- RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir",knuckles487, 11:51 PM, 03-17-12
- RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir",dabo, 01:12 AM, 03-18-12
- RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir",KObrien_fan, 09:41 PM, 03-17-12
- RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir",Outfrontgirl, 10:59 PM, 03-17-12
- RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir",Flowerpower, 05:13 PM, 03-18-12
- Colton,Flowerpower, 09:39 PM, 03-19-12
- RE: Colton,jasonkola, 09:43 PM, 03-19-12
- the clues...,Flowerpower, 10:06 PM, 03-19-12
- RE: the clues...,jasonkola, 10:22 PM, 03-19-12
- RE: the clues...,Karchita, 00:13 AM, 03-21-12
- RE: Colton,MyDogMya, 05:48 PM, 03-20-12
- RE: Colton,Outfrontgirl, 06:11 PM, 03-20-12
- RE: Colton,dabo, 06:28 PM, 03-20-12
- RE: Colton,Arnold_Lorax, 02:50 AM, 03-21-12
- RE: Colton,suzzee, 07:55 AM, 03-21-12
- A Clip,Flowerpower, 03:29 PM, 03-20-12
- TV Listing Version,dabo, 06:18 PM, 03-20-12
- RE: TV Listing Version,Flowerpower, 07:25 AM, 03-21-12
- RE: TV Listing Version,Arnold_Lorax, 08:32 AM, 03-21-12
- RE: TV Listing Version,dabo, 10:08 AM, 03-21-12
- RE: TV Listing Version,dabo, 09:36 AM, 03-21-12
- RE: TV Listing Version,Blind Freddy, 10:47 AM, 03-21-12
- RE: TV Listing Version,CTgirl, 11:12 AM, 03-21-12
- RE: TV Listing Version,Blind Freddy, 12:07 PM, 03-21-12
- RE: TV Listing Version,Outfrontgirl, 06:37 PM, 03-21-12
- Final guesses?,Outfrontgirl, 07:48 PM, 03-21-12
- RE: Final guesses?,PepeLePew13, 07:53 PM, 03-21-12
Messages in this discussion
"RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir""
Posted by jasonkola on 03-14-12 at 05:36 PM
Ya that title makes me think someone is either voted out with the idle or Colton is so confident that he is in power that he dose not need to play it referring to it as a souvenir. I could really see Colton saying something like that.
"Jeff's aphasia "
Posted by Outfrontgirl on 03-15-12 at 06:52 AM
I thought he couldn't possibly have done an entire tout for the wrong week, and I was so wrong!2h Jeff Probst @JeffProbst
Hello Survivor friends -- last week when I teased what to look out for in the next episode (which was last night) I made a big mistake...
Jeff Probst @JeffProbst
I said "something historic happens" and I challenged you to figure it out. Uh, it's next week. I'm so sorry. But the challenge is still on!
"RE: Jeff's aphasia "
Posted by Flowerpower on 03-15-12 at 09:04 AM
LAST EDITED ON 03-15-12 AT 09:06 AM (EST)I really suspected that he meant episode 6. He stated episode 6 and then he said something historic happens...history repeats itself. For all of those that want Colton to go, this is a very positive sign, imo. History repeating itself....Colton is appearing as ARROGANT as he possibly can, and we see him turning into a real bully to poor Christina. Last week Jonas had a great confessional... so it's like Colton is running the show with both girls and guys, but it would be ridiculous for me not to think that he's aligning with the women right now....
He and Alicia appear to be getting closer and closer. Let's suppose that Gregzan is removed. NuManono would now be down to Colton, Jonas, Leif, Alicia, and Christina. IF they have to go to TC and vote someone out what would they do? Well, Alicia and Colton are seemingly now inseparable. We know that Colton thinks all of the guys are idiots. They know that he firmly wants Christina to be next, and believes all of the guys are most definitely with him.
I could see Jonas approaching Christina and taking Leif with them to blindside Colton and his HII. This would take care of Colton and Alicia. The only problem is will it happen this week, or next week because of the med-evac. Well, with Jiffy admitting that history was going to repeat itself in episode 6, I am really thinking that Colton will walk the walk!
Christina is the seemingly obvious boot decoy, and so is the med-evacee....
Title also fits....as Colton leaves TC he could pull out his HII and say, "Thanks for the souvenir!"
"RE: Jeff's aphasia "
Posted by Outfrontgirl on 03-15-12 at 09:23 AM
I could totally see it happening.The only thing is, Jeff said we may not even recognize the "history repeats itself" after it happens. Colton going out like James will be an immediate recognition.
Hard to know what to trust in Jeff's wording, but you totally called it that he had jumped again when he touted last week.
"RE: Jeff's aphasia "
Posted by tullfan on 03-15-12 at 10:06 AM
>I could totally see it happening.
>
>
>The only thing is, Jeff said
>we may not even recognize
>the "history repeats itself" after
>it happens. Colton going
>out like James will be
>an immediate recognition.
>
>Hard to know what to trust
>in Jeff's wording, but you
>totally called it that he
>had jumped again when he
>touted last week.
History repeats itself is probably regarding the medevac. Mike was taken out on day 17 and that day is covered in the next episode. Russell Swan and Penner also were taken out around that time. Colton telling Christina to either jump into the fire or quit may have been put in the promo as a hint that the cause of the medevac is the same as with Mike Skupin.
"RE: Jeff's aphasia "
Posted by Flowerpower on 03-15-12 at 10:12 AM
I don't think that a med-evac occuring at around a similar time would be that historic, but if someone, Tarzan?, falls into the fire like Skupin, that would be history repeating itself...I sure hope that's not it! Burns would definitely cause heart rates to be way up! If it were burns though, I think that they would be reacting MUCH more rapidly, as they did with Skupin....Helicopter in to remove, stat. They seem rather composed as to their approach with this...no sense of urgency, really...Also, Jeff seems calmer than if it were a burn...?
"RE: Jeff's aphasia "
Posted by Blind Freddy on 03-15-12 at 11:13 AM
LAST EDITED ON 03-15-12 AT 11:19 AM (EST)Re: JP - "Jeff said we may not even recognize the "history repeats itself" after it happens"
Hey OFG, where was that from? Thanks
Edit to add...
Nevermind I see it was just part of his tease from the Ew Q&A. I just didn't recognize the language. Thanks tho for putting his quote in context....it could help figure this out.
"RE: Jeff's aphasia "
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 03-15-12 at 10:10 AM
Yeah, here's further confirmation - the exact wording from his interview with Dalton Ross over on the Survivor: One World Press thread:Tease us up for next week, and also reveal the answer to your “history repeats itself” clue from last week. All I could come up with was one person from an alliance (in this case, Alicia) being completely separated from the rest of her group by a tribe shake-up.
I have to admit something to you…. I was one week ahead! I had been watching next week’s episode! I screwed up! So my tease for next week is…. history repeats itself! Sorry about that!!!
"E6 Press release"
Posted by Blind Freddy on 03-15-12 at 02:47 PM
From CBS...---------------------
03.15.2012
EXTREME PAIN THREATENS TO DERAIL ONE CASTAWAY’S CHANCES OF STAYING IN THE GAME, ON "SURVIVOR: ONE WORLD,” WEDNESDAY, MARCH 21
CHEAT TWEET: Extreme pain threatens a castaway…will they survive? Don’t miss #Survivor Wed, March 21 @ 8pmET/PT! http://bit.ly/yVHQ0D
"Thanks For The Souvenir" — Extreme pain threatens to derail one castaway’s chances of staying in the game and a conspiratorial Tribal Council once again shakes things up, on SURVIVOR: ONE WORLD, Wednesday, March 21 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.
---------------------------
"RE: E6 Press release"
Posted by Flowerpower on 03-15-12 at 03:00 PM
LAST EDITED ON 03-15-12 AT 03:02 PM (EST)Thanks for posting, BF! These clues are very helpful, imo! First of all, the cause of the med-evac is pain...we have seen Gregzan with various make shift covers over his legs, could he have some kind of funky pain...can't help but to think of something like shingles, perhaps? It sure could happen. And, from the vidcaps, we can see that they are taking him away via stretcher....he could be returned, maybe....? It is not looking to good for Tarzan, imo.
Now, a conspiratorial Tribal Council once again shakes things up!
Christina leaving would NOT shake anything up....a conspiracy could be Colton and company, and we have seen him change his mind regarding a boot choice before, could he change his mind again? Or, could there be a change of heart that leads to a tie, and Christina goes, but first there is a big shake up?
OR,
A conspiracy arises that doesn't include Colton and Alicia....perhaps it could include Christina, Jonas, and Leif?
Two things we can deduce from this remark in the clues....1. There is a conspiracy, and 2. the tribe will be shaken up...
"RE: E6 Press release"
Posted by b1whois on 03-15-12 at 03:26 PM
i really dont think that christina is in any danger. it seems to me that colton's strategy is to vote out the strong. first it was matt. then bill. then monica. he keeps it up and he could attempt an immunity run at the end. he may not be weak at all, his feminine charms and laziness just make us all assume. think about it: his whole plan right now looks to be aiming for final two/three goat, and i think he is smarter than that.
i can see his whole FTC speech: I am the smartest, i fooled all of you into thinking i was weak, i convinced you to vote out stronger players over weaker players with my made-up drama and so that i would have a shot at IC's. at the same time i made you think i was an emotional basket case, got these fools to take me as the goat and i've been playing all of you the whole time. ha! i'm not even gay, bitches!
i wonder what his edit would look like if this were his game plan. any thoughts edit analyzers?
"RE: E6 Press release"
Posted by jasonkola on 03-15-12 at 03:30 PM
LAST EDITED ON 03-15-12 AT 04:19 PM (EST)The title thanks for the souvenir is just Colton being cocky, most likely in a confessional and saying he is so much in control he dose not need it and refers to it as a souvenir.
The Medvac could be a player who returns to the game. This could be history repeating itself.
The conspiracy could be that Jonas and leif flip and try to vote out Colton which results in a tie (Gregzan, Colton, Alicia vs Leif, Jonas and Christine). This could be the history repeats itself as well.
Also, what if Leif and Jonas do flip and it comes out at TC but they do not end up voting any one out because of the medvac. That would be cool. I would love to see how Colton would handle this back at camp.
"RE: E6 Press release"
Posted by tullfan on 03-15-12 at 07:12 PM
My spec. is that Alicia and Christina launch the conspiracy. They would team together because Christina could convince Alicia that she is at the bottom of the pecking order if Christina were to leave. Alicia/Christina stage fake arguments at camp and at Tribal Council to fake out Colton and they bring in Leif as the third vote to blindside him.Tarzan is the likely medevac because he is the only Manono not at all seen in the web promo.
"RE: E6 Press release"
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 03-15-12 at 07:24 PM
LAST EDITED ON 03-15-12 AT 07:38 PM (EST)An important distinction:
From BF's post: "Extreme pain threatens to derail one castaway’s chances of staying in the game."
and this:
>And, from the vidcaps, we can see
>that they are taking him
>away via stretcher....
From what I could see, they are only bringing *in* the stretcher but not showing anyone being taken away. For all we know, they get Tarzan (or someone else) all patched up and determine after a while he is able to stay in the game.
Edited: Just saw the quote from Jiffy during the vidcaps showing the final moments where the stretcher is being brought in - The game claims another victim. That is clear to me that someone is leaving so we ought to ignore the threatens comment.
"RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir""
Posted by dabo on 03-15-12 at 05:06 PM
Here's a piece of history from early in the show, those who came along later might not have seen.
"RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir""
Posted by beaglemaster on 03-16-12 at 08:32 AM
ROFLOL!I did not know that happened.... yeah, let's do that again!!!!!
"RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir""
Posted by dabo on 03-16-12 at 10:52 AM
Yeah, that was something. Of course, that exact scenario would be unlikely. But there are many things in the sea that can sting, painful poison to a system, even a few things slithering and scuttling about on land.
"RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir""
Posted by Flowerpower on 03-17-12 at 08:05 AM
Extreme pain threatens to derail one castaway’s chances of staying in the gameYou know, the more I think about this, the more I think some kind of sting could indeed be the culprit. Gregzan has something with his legs....I was thinking earlier that they were scraped up or something, with his make-shift bandages and now one leg of his pants....what's up with that?
We also see that he is toward the water. If it is some kind of a sting, then he could be back...? But, the promo sure makes it sound that he will be gone.
"RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir""
Posted by tullfan on 03-17-12 at 08:26 PM
I was wondering about gastrointestinal blockage as per Bruce on S12. He was in extreme pain when he left. If Tarzan or someone else left for the same reason, that could be what prompted Jeff's history repeats itself tout.
"RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir""
Posted by Outfrontgirl on 03-17-12 at 08:36 PM
It is always risky to rely on Jeff's wording carrying any precision, so I feel half dumb for trying to find meaning in what he said, but -- he did say, good luck with figuring that one out, even after it happens.Whereas most fans would remember quite easily if someone else had GI blockage, or fell in a fire, or got peed on to ease a sting, and most certainly if Colton went home with idol in pocket.
I think that history repeats itself, but in a somewhat obscure fashion, is more likely about a gameplay strategy, about a move or a pattern rather than a single event -- because that is something Jeff focuses on as do diehard fans, but it would not necessarily click for the casual viewer.
"RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir""
Posted by tullfan on 03-18-12 at 10:02 AM
Could be but Bruce's medevac aired 6 years ago. Most casuals have forgotten that by now.
"RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir""
Posted by byoffer on 03-16-12 at 10:46 AM
Is it any wonder Kathy was so well-loved?I think it will always be a huge disappointment that she did not win that seaon.
"RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir""
Posted by Flowerpower on 03-16-12 at 01:26 PM
I think it will always be a huge disappointment that she did not win that seaon.Couldn't agree more, she was certainly my favorite!
"RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir""
Posted by Outfrontgirl on 03-15-12 at 09:34 PM
LAST EDITED ON 03-15-12 AT 09:36 PM (EST)BF, sorry I wasn't around this morning, glad you found it!
Here is the reprint, and I'm bolding the baffling part:
from last week, which we now know is for this week:
----
Jeff Probst's tease for the week (from EW):
"Next week — history repeats itself. Good luck figuring that one out — even after it happens. In fact, a free buff for the first person who guesses correctly what I am referring to re: history…repeats…itself."
I can only say this. Episode 6 is a historic episode for one specific reason. Try to guess.
Jeff thinks it will be tough to guess or even to see what he means after the episode airs?
That would rule out going home with idol in pocket, or a Skupin, or any of those really memorable moments.
There is another version of that tout, where Jeff says it will be "historic." Anyone know where it is?
nevermind, found it ... have edited it in above.
"RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir""
Posted by samboohoo on 03-16-12 at 09:52 AM
History Repeats Itself?1. Lief spills the beans about the next boot.
2. Kim/Chelsea decide not to speak of the idol, but do so anyway.
3. New Blue throws a challenge to oust a man to even up the girls/guys numbers because they think Alicia is in trouble a la Russell in HvV.
4. A pecking order is revealed.
Samboobree, brought to life by Arkie
"RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir""
Posted by Outfrontgirl on 03-16-12 at 03:10 AM
I tweeted this to Jeff Probst:Guess: As in HvV Ep5, injured member of alliance (James/Greg) useless in challenges yet they boot a healthy player & keep ally.
Hey, doesn't hurt to guess! Meaning that Tarzan survives and they boot Christina.
"If given a choice between two equally promising lines of play, always choose the more elegant."
"RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir""
Posted by Flowerpower on 03-16-12 at 07:38 AM
LAST EDITED ON 03-16-12 AT 07:42 AM (EST)That's a great guess, OFG! Let us know if you get a free buff!
Since I think it's wise to try and list all of the possible scenarios in the hopes of identifying the right one, here's another suggestion:
Since the name of the title is "Thanks for the Souvenir", will someone try and craft a HII? The fake HII could be the souvenir.
Here's another idea....when I saw the vidcaps for the promo I was surprised at how close the fire is to the shelter, and the palm fronds on their roof and sides....will they burn their shelter down....again?
"RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir""
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 03-16-12 at 09:14 AM
>Since the name of the title
>is "Thanks for the Souvenir",
> will someone try and
>craft a HII? The
>fake HII could be the
>souvenir. Yeah, we saw Troyzan completely focused on working on something for a little spell - a fake HII?
>Here's another idea....when I saw the
>vidcaps for the promo I
>was surprised at how close
>the fire is to the
>shelter, and the palm fronds
>on their roof and sides....will
>they burn their shelter down....again?
Good thinking, I noticed that as well.
"RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir""
Posted by VolcanicGlass on 03-16-12 at 10:44 AM
OFG! I almost posted that same thing yesterday. I did think of the vote strong & keep weak angle, but there was also the deception angle, with JT playing both sides, and the decoy boot. It could fit the Probst "requirement" of it being something we wouldn't necessarily realize even after it happened.
FWIW, the title of the promo is usually the title of the episode, but the video of the promo was titled "Jump in that Fire."
"RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir""
Posted by Round Robin on 03-16-12 at 05:16 PM
5'll get you 10 Tarzan stepped on a sea urchin, and I think it got so painful he had to leave.
"RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir""
Posted by Flowerpower on 03-16-12 at 09:19 PM
Well, we know that the reason he goes out is PAIN....if he steps on a sea urchin and is removed for pain then he could indeed come back...fwiw.
"RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir""
Posted by Outfrontgirl on 03-16-12 at 11:42 PM
Yep, a marine sting of some sort could be responsible for both extreme pain and the rapid heart rate. Sea urchin is less likely to produce the cardiac response from what I have read, but it is possible with a large quantity of spines.A stonefish or lionfish, a man of war or a stingray are all possibilities in Samoan lagoons and would accelerate heart rate. A stonefish sting is rare but over the top painful. It is far far beyond sea urchin level and yelling OW.
A sting would, as FP says, allow for a return, but in less than optimal shape.
A serious infection in the blood should be dealt with by hospitalization, because the only effective drugs they have left can only be administered by IV drip.
I also read that some stings can result in altered mental state, confusion. Tarzan is already borderline, it could get interesting.
"RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir""
Posted by dabo on 03-17-12 at 02:26 AM
LAST EDITED ON 03-17-12 AT 12:49 PM (EST)I also read that some stings can result in altered mental state, confusion. Tarzan is already borderline, it could get interesting.
I kind of have to wonder how borderline he may actually be, from what I understand he "dumbed down" for the game. He is obviously keeping it a secret that he is a doctor, a plastic surgeon, and presumably well-off financially. He claims to have nominal aphasia, in the form of trouble remembering people's names, and this I will grant is probably true.
Plus, being a doctor, familiar obviously with aphasia and its pathologies, he should know that excessive use of neologisms is another form of aphasia.
He claimed he had this all his life, rather than making a war story of it as would have Coach. I empathise, because me too, maybe he got dropped on his head as a baby.
Getting back on topic, though...
I think Greg has been playing the game to downplay his intelligence. He does want people to think he is smart, just not braniac smart, not MD or PhD smart. That's a tough row to hoe for someone too smart for their own good.
"RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir""
Posted by Outfrontgirl on 03-17-12 at 07:34 AM
Terrific insight, dabo, color me convinced.
I would argue that Greg's confessionals should reflect the real state of Greg's head. No need to dumb down for the audience. Jeff said at the outset that Greg could annoy people by showing them he thinks he's smarter.
"RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir""
Posted by Flowerpower on 03-17-12 at 08:10 AM
Just so everyone knows, extreme pain is capable of increasing heart rate all by itself!
"RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir""
Posted by Outfrontgirl on 03-17-12 at 11:07 AM
That makes total sense.
"RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir""
Posted by Outfrontgirl on 03-16-12 at 11:36 PM
VG, I love that we both thought of the same episode. Even it is wrong, that makes me feel good!
"RE: Ep6 Title, Touts and Teasers: "Thanks For The Souvenir""
Posted by Karchita on 03-16-12 at 06:15 PM
Maybe it's two medivacs in one season. That's happened before, right?
Thanks snidget & tribe!
Could be, although I am in the camp of shying away from basing the boot choice on the title. The Souvenir could be related to a battle scar. They knew when titling it, I am sure, that people would think it was about Colton, and they know people are watching to see him get booted. So I feel highly cynical about the title and view it as manipulation by the PR machine.I try to keep some trust in game logic. Monica has stated that the girls know NOTHING of Colton's disgusting attitude towards minorities and they don't know what Leif has been through. They don't know how Jonas might feel. Tarzan was supportive of Colton.
Basically, the girls could have leverage if they had seen the Bill TC, but they don't. They also don't know if the guys on Salani are going to want to reunite. The men have achieved a majority again, and Christina now knows that Colton has not been playing the game to become a girl at first opportunity, because he betrayed her and Monica, as did Alicia.
The logical target for Christina is not Colton. It is either the "keep the strong" appeal to go after Tarzan, or it is "boot a woman, but not me, go after Alicia who is seducing Colton away from your group."
The Alicia vs. Christina storyline was set up big in Ep 1, and it should come to a head in this episode, as we do know there is a TC.
My prediction is that Leif and Jonas don't want to make a move to anger Colton if they are not going to boot him. They also don't want to flush the HII, because the HII is a tool they hope to use for their alliance when the merge comes. They probably don't like either Christina or Alicia.
I feel like Christina's story is done, whereas Alicia's probably has legs into the post--merge, as does Colton's. Tarzan's story could also be wrapped.
I don't make much of the coffin shot with Leif. I can see how the editors would like having the material and adapting it to their message of don't get comfortable. Leif could get himself in trouble as he did lose their trust, but I think he is a hard guy to stay mad at and is trying hard to make amends. I think he will be a liability in a challenge that requires speed getting up to the platform, but he's not always a liability for all challenges.
I think this episode is not being hyped as much as it could be if it marked Colton's demise. Jeff's tout is actually not a big hype. He is going for the angle of Survivor history, not focusing on some BIG HUGE thing that will be emotionally satisfying or outrageous. His tout was emotionally flat.
Ok, had a thought that puts me wayyyy outside the box so lets see if I can explain it clearly.First, whoever it is and for whatever medical reason, I'm guessing that nobody is removed from the game. "The game claims another victim" or however Jeff said it could just mean that another injury has been added to the long list of injuries before it. No reason for me thinking this, just random.
Now for the crazy idea I had. Has anyone from one tribe ever given the HII to someone on the other tribe? If yes, then a move like that could be history repeating itself. If no, then such a move would be historical. Jeff has made use of both terms so which are we supposed to go by?
Anyways, suppose at a challenge Christina starts ranting about being the next target and mean ole Colton told her to jump in the fire, etc etc. Says that women are already down in numbers, her going would be real blow to the women. If she is allowed to rant like that while both teams are together, perhaps whatshername ends up passing her HII to Christina unseen by anyone else. Then at tribal she starts in on Colton and the way he has acted just since the swap, betraying the women, encouraging dangerous acts (burning yourself up lol) etc. She stirs the hornets nest, then after everyone votes she stands and plays the HII. No votes for her cout and her vote for Colton sends the weasel packing.
She has already tweeted earlier to someone she knows that they need to be sure to watch, lots of tc excitement, and big surprise twist. Surprise might not be the correct word but whatever it was, it's the same meaning. Sorry I can't find the tweet to post a link.
I don't know how this got so long for such an outside thought. Sorry.