"RE: Post shuffle tribes...Salani loses first challenge"
Posted by tullfan on 01-30-12 at 07:59 PM
FlowerPower,Nice analysis - the only correction is that Salani is the blue tribe that started out as all female and Manono is the orange tribe.
Note, that if you are correct, all of the strong alpha males end up on the new Salani tribe which means that new Manono is likely to be hosed. The only male that can be on Salani that is unaccounted for is Greg. If this is correct then I doubt that the new tribes are formed via a pick'em.
"RE: Post shuffle tribes...Salani loses first challenge"
Posted by Flowerpower on 01-30-12 at 08:19 PM
LAST EDITED ON 01-30-12 AT 08:19 PM (EST)Thanks for noting the mistake with the tribe names, tullfan. I have edited in the correct names. It all comes down to that picture of the leaky water barrel that appears blue. I suppose it could be tampered with, a la the ole buff-o-matic. But, at this point, it really appears as if it's Salini blue.
If the strong alpha males end up on the same tribe, the tribal shuffle could come down to pulling a new buff out of the mix...
...I'm reminded of the time in All-Stars when the only one that pulled a different buff out of the bag was Amber...
"RE: Post shuffle tribes...Salani loses first challenge"
Posted by Outfrontgirl on 02-07-12 at 08:59 PM
I agree it looks like random shuffle, although there have been some weird pickems, notable by older women. One being In Thailand when Jan didn't go for strength, but her choice was redeemed by outcome. Also in Vanu'atu when Scout had a hand in it (as did Sarge), where I forget what Scout did exactly, but she went for a way to get her allies on her team by figuring out who Sarge would pursue.>>> ...I'm reminded of the time in All-Stars when the only one that pulled a different buff out of the bag was Amber...
It was even more unlikely. They ALL pulled the opposite tribe buff EXCEPT for Amber. She was the only one who remained on Chapera, and the former Mogo Mogo's came to her camp and she had to play hostess and watch them enjoy Rob's furniture that he had built and so forth, while Rob and other Chapera had to move over to the much less together MM camp.
"RE: Post shuffle tribes...Salani loses first challenge"
Posted by Outfrontgirl on 01-31-12 at 00:12 AM
Fine work, FloPo! Just want to say that castaway208 ID'd the orange flowered shorts as Matt some time ago, without any if ands or buts, just, That's Matt. castaway has had perfect info on the cast in advance. Interesting that he or she knows the looks (or clothes?) of the cast well enough to be so definite in a pic that shows so little.
"RE: Post shuffle tribes...Salani loses first challenge"
Posted by Flowerpower on 01-31-12 at 07:47 AM
I don't know about Castaway208, but I had heard that he did ID Matt by the shorts, but, I still question him. Nevertheless, IF these are not dreamteamers and they are indeed the actual players, than the girl in the middle is definitively Kimberly, and the guy on the right is indeed Michael.PS. What else did Castaway spoil? Just the cast? Or did he go further? Thanks, OFG!
"RE: Post shuffle tribes...Salani loses first challenge"
Posted by tullfan on 02-06-12 at 10:45 AM
Flowerpower,I was just over at Sucks, and a frequent, regular poster over there with username Polonium, pointed out that it is Troyzan that is wearing the orange colored shorts and not Matt. He got He presented a vidcap from either a confessional or an interview with Troyzan wearing orange colored shorts and Polonium credited TDT for originally making this comparison.
It seems likely to me that the tribal swap doesn't happen till episode 4 after 2 women and 1 man have left the game and that the swap preserves the tribal numbers with 8 on Manono and 7 on Salani. The reason that we are missing one person (likely female) from the water ballgame challenge is because someone from Manono is sitting out.
With a tribal swap at 15, it would appear that the new tribes are:
Manono - Greg, Colton, Jonas, Leif, Bill, Alicia, Christina,
Chelsea/Nina/Kourtney
Salani - Troyzan, Jay, Matt, Michael, Monica, Sabrina, Kat, Kimberly
So my best guess is that Matt and 2 of Chelsea/Nina/Kourtney are the first 3 out. Who knows why the men would vote out Matt instead of Colton. I'll laugh if the men vote for Colton, Colton plays the HII and Matt gets bounced.
I'm still leaning toward the women losing the first IC since in the past the post IC press Images have always featured the losing tribe and all the post IC press images feature female castaways. Since Kourtney does not appear in any of these images, her being evacuated is a good bet.
Based on the Colton specific promo, Bill Posley is the leading candidate to be the first to go post-swap.
"Disagree "
Posted by Flowerpower on 02-06-12 at 05:22 PM
LAST EDITED ON 02-06-12 AT 05:31 PM (EST)
Hiya Tullfan, I think I found what you were referring to, and I disagree with Polonium's notes. If you could leave a link next time when there is a new point, it would be so helpful! But, I think I found the thread...it can be found here.
Here is the pic of Troyzan with the orange shorts and dark flowers...
Other shorts, they look brown and just plaid, no flowers on them, no pattern at all on them except they are plaid......
Now here are the shorts that I believe to be Matt's...
These shorts are plaid, but also has patterns all over them of swirls and paisley's, and large flowers as well, the plaid on them is only in patches...I don't think that they are the same shorts at all....I could be wrong, I suppose, but I am inclined to think that the shorts with the bucket are not the same ones that Troyzan is wearing on the beach.
Regardless, Troyzan and Matt are both seen here, which I think is the RC in ep 2, definitely it is pre-tribal swap. It is the challenge with the belts:
I speculate that the IC for ep 2 is the coconut sling shot challenge here...
If Matt is in the leaky barrel challenge, then he is there post-tribal shuffle. This is what I speculate. In fact, every man is seen post shuffle, so I still am leaning toward the first 2 boots being 2 out of Nina, Kourtney, Chelsea.
I suppose it comes down to those shorts. I still see them as different.
"RE: Disagree "
Posted by tullfan on 02-06-12 at 08:00 PM
Flowerpower,I can't really tell if Troyzan is wearing the same brown plaid shorts or not. In the challenge, the black flowery pattern is definitely on the back of the shorts and we can't see the front of the shorts. We see Troyzan wearing a pair of brown plaid shorts but since he is sitting down during the interview, we can't see the back of the shorts. If we could find a video where Matt is wearing the brown plaid shorts with the flowery pattern then that would make things clearer, The only shorts that I have seen Matt wearing were the rather skimpy black trunks he had on in one of the ep. 1 Press Images.
Regarding the belted challenge, the reason I think that it is an Immunity Challenge is based on the extreme reactions of both tribes after the women win. The women seem too happy and the men seem too downbeat for the challenge to be just for reward. It has been a while since there was a separate challenge for reward in episode 2. The was no challenge for reward in ep. 2 in either Heroes vs. Villains or Survivor Nicaragua.
I will try to provide more links in the future if I have time. I tried to copy the Troyzan pre-show interview vidcap but I couldn't get it to work.
"RE: Disagree "
Posted by Flowerpower on 02-07-12 at 08:15 AM
LAST EDITED ON 02-07-12 AT 08:24 AM (EST)Thanks for trying! All you need to do is copy and paste the URL address of the vidcap into your copy of where you want it to go. But, thanks for trying! It just makes things so much easier to go back and see what others are speculating.
As for the shorts, at this point I can see that they are 2 different pairs of shorts. The ones that are in the leaky bucket challenge also have pockets on the sides, and you can see that there is pattern on the pockets as well, different than the straight plaid. I suppose it will be clear when we either find a distinct vidcap with them on, or when the show starts. I believe that is his swimming trunks as well.
Regarding the challenge where the girls are jumping up and down, it is my spec that that was for RC. But, it is just spec. I would think the girls would be very happy to beat the men anytime. Remember if this is for the RC, then it's only the 2nd challenge, and it follows their first loss. I can't discount this challenge as the reward challenge because it appears that they are over-reacting.
Let's play devils advocate here. If that is the IC and the girls win, then a guy goes home. We have vidcap evidence of all of the men in the basketball water challenge except for Matt. But, the leaky water bucket challenge is still post episode 2 then, post tribal shuffle, as we see Matt(who I think is Matt), Kim, and Michael carrying the leaky bucket for the Salani, Blue tribe.
Last of all, I thought that Castaway208 had already identified the guy with the leaky barrel as Matt, and so far he was right with identifying all of theSurvivirs. So far, there is no solid evidence for me to change my earlier assessment. If you can or the folks at Sucks give definitive proof, then I'm definitely on board!
I just still firmly believe that two of Kourtney, Nina, and Chelsea are our first boots, and in order for that to happen, the girls must lose the first 2 challenges.
"RE: Disagree "
Posted by tullfan on 02-07-12 at 10:54 AM
Flowerpower,I spent some time this morning trying to find where castaway208 posted that Matt is the male wearing the orange colored shorts in the leaky barrel challenge. I had never seen this post and I couldn't find it this morning. I looked in both castaway208's hints and clues thread as well as the thread for the One World Preview vidcaps. Castaway208 could have posted this in some other thread but as far as I can tell, castaway208 would only post in his own thread and no where else. Maybe this post was deleted.
The first mention of Matt being the person wearing the orange shorts was by poster BullsEyee on 12/19/11 who said that he tought that castaway208 made that ID. The assertion that Matt is the male in the leaky bucket was further propagated in the vidcaps thread by IAmJamesClement.
The tall male in the leaky bucket challenge could be Matt, Troyzan or Jay (Michael can be ruled out). But if the pre-swap challenge that the women win is for Immunity then it has to be Matt that is voted out. All the other men are accounted for past ep. 2 and make it past the swap.
"RE: Disagree "
Posted by Blind Freddy on 02-07-12 at 01:09 PM
Re: "...trying to find where castaway208 posted that Matt is the male wearing the orange colored shorts in the leaky barrel" challenge"Hereyago Tullfan....from the 'SurvivorSucks' bd./'Survivor: The Future' forum/S24: One World Preview Vidcaps' thread....
http://survivorsucks.yuku.com/topic/89834/S24-Survivor-One-World-Preview-Vidcaps?page=4
'castaway208' posted(on page 4) :
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The guy with ?? is Greg Smith, that's the same shirt. The guy with the flower shorts in the barrel challenge/task is Matt.
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...in likely ref to these vidcaps(below) by SPhoenix (ty VG) on the prior page(page 3) of the thread.
Posted by 'DragonSlayerCoach'(on page 3)
Posted by 'Antihesis'(on page 3)...a couple posts later a version mostly excluding the 'flowered shorts' guy on the right....
So the 'castaway208' post IDing Matt in the 'flowered shorts' refs one/both of those vidcaps which appear on the prior Sucks' page 3 of that thread. While only 'castaway208' knows which guy he/she was referring to...the photographic center of attention in both those vidcaps is of the guy on the left along with the girl. But ultimately it is left in the analyzer's lap as to which guy. My best guess is that 'castaway208' was responding to the 'flowered shorts' guy on the left. 'castaway208' is of course both welcomed and invited to clarify his/her post-info here if he/she should so desire
To my knowledge, 'castaway208' has never posted any additional ref to Matt and these vidcaps. Additionally, FlowerPower has speced here and here that the 'flowered shorts' guy on the right is Michael. So this is what we have to work with and where we seem to be at.
Hope this is helpful
"RE: Disagree "
Posted by tullfan on 02-07-12 at 07:56 PM
Thanks, Blind Freddy. That settles it then.
"different shorts"
Posted by Outfrontgirl on 02-07-12 at 09:25 PM
It sure is hard to be definitive about the shorts. I do remember castaway IDing Matt with respect to the leaky barrel shots, remember reading it at the time and not secondhand quote, but that is sorted out now.If Troyzan's shorts have the hibiscus only on the back, that would mean the shorts were cut out of two separate fabrics, which is kind of unusual in the garment industry as it complicates things to have all the back pieces done in a separate cutting from the front pieces. (I used to work in garment manufacturing, and complicated translates into significant cost increase.)
Second, Troyzan's plaid has fairly large blocks of the plain brown, but what I see from Matt's is that the plaid part is much busier with light lines cross-hatching and breaking up the brown. In fact the darker brown is more of a framing pattern for light blocks of plaid, whereas in Troyzan's the darker brown is the inside color of the plaid. Even if they did a custom print overlay over the plaid for the back of the shorts, they should have used the same plaid background.
It is possible that these two shorts were part of a "group" which is when a designer has a collection with similar fabrics and shapes but variations from piece to piece, and the people who shop wardrobe bought two pieces, one the more conservative plaid and one the wild print plaid which is a younger look.
The barrel shorts also have pockets: we can see the chevron shaped flap. Troyzan sitting makes it hard for me to see if his pocked has an overflap, but it does look to me if you straight on compare just the pocket body plaid material, that they are not the same fabric, and that is the one part of the shorts that would absolutely be the same, as the pocket shows in both pairs.
"RE: different shorts"
Posted by Flowerpower on 02-07-12 at 10:19 PM
I'm with you OFG. Sorry, tullfan. I just see 2 different pairs of pants. Also, look at these shorts....these are the trunks on Troyzan in the basketball water challenge...
I know that they are wet, but they sure look like a solid to me.
He is wearing his bathing trunks in the water challenge, as here he is in his shorts...
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Now, I wish we could definitively say that the guy on the left was Matt, and not Jay....we don't have a siting of Jay's bathing suit either. What we have is Castaway208 identifying him as Matt. I do believe that those shorts that we are speculating are Matt's are also seen in the water basketball challenge opposing Colton. If Matt is on blue tribe, than Colton is indeed on the Orange tribe.
"RE: different shorts"
Posted by Polonium on 02-08-12 at 00:27 AM
I believe the man pushing Jonas into the water in those screenshots is Jay, not Troyzan.
"RE: different shorts"
Posted by Flowerpower on 02-08-12 at 08:36 AM
LAST EDITED ON 02-08-12 AT 09:13 AM (EST)
Welcome to Blows, Polonium. So, you believe that who we thought was Troyzan, I think first spec'd by Blind Freddy, is actually Jay. Now that's a question I can sink my teeth into....just thankful your question didn't involve trunks and shorts!
I am going to take this up in the new Ep Post-shuffle Challenge thread, located here.
Frankly, before we even get started with comparisons, I may be in agreement with you just by the virtue that he's NOT wearing any bracelets...fwiw.
"RE: S24:OW Pre-Show Vidcaps"
Posted by Flowerpower on 02-02-12 at 09:27 AM
New Promo posted at Survivor Fever, here. Tarzan vs. Troyzan. Greg asks to be called, Tarzan, and Troy comments in confessional that he's Troyzan, so the other Tarzan has to go...Both as seen wearing orange buffs doing the sling shot challenge, which imo, is likely to happen in Episode 2, post episode 1.
Here is the transcript:
Transcript:
Announcer: On the new Survivor there can only be one king
of the jungle.
Greg: *Tarzan yell*
Jeff: What's your name?
Greg: Tarzan.
Troy (camera confessional): One guy's called Tarzan.
I'm like, he can't be Tarzan. I'm Troyzan.
Jeff (calling challenge): Troyzan and Tarzan are now neck
and neck.
Greg (camera confessional): I have no fear about my physical ability,
I am a stud.
Troy (camera confessional): This is my sand, this is my island.
I've gotta get rid of Tarzan. I can't have him around.
Adios muchacho.
Also, another interesting vidcap:
Sure looks like Greg is at a challenge that involves water, here...
"RE: S24:OW Pre-Show Vidcaps"
Posted by tullfan on 02-02-12 at 10:55 AM
FlowerPower,I also saw 4 new 20 second contestant specific promos at Survivor Skills.
They had one about Leif that confirms that Leif/Michael/Sabrina make it to that water/basketball challenge and that post-swap Leif is on Manono and Michael and Sabrina end up on Salani. They also show another Manono female that I can't make out.
They had another promo about Colton being a snake and show him getting into a shoving match with Bill after he says that he is going to vote Bill out. If Colton is that overtly aggressive, I don't see him lasting long.
There is a promo about Alicia being a big flirt.
The last promo is focused on Kim Spradlin being a huge threat. There is nothing really special about Kim for her to get an individual promo. She is not a big character or a unique contestant like Leif. If last season is a precendent (as with Sophie), then congratulations to Kim Spradlin, the winner of Survivor: One World.
"RE: S24:OW Pre-Show Vidcaps"
Posted by Flowerpower on 02-02-12 at 11:05 AM
Great stuff, tullfan! It confirms our speculation then! I also see a shot of Christina and Greg, in the latest promo, and I think it is from the start of the water challenge, which would make it post ep 1, AND post tribal shuffle....Christina will be on Manono, Orange tribe with Greg post tribal shuffle.I will try and go to Skills to check them out, thanks! I agree Kim is going to be one to watch....I'll remember that you said it first if she wins!
"RE: S24:OW Pre-Show Vidcaps"
Posted by tullfan on 02-02-12 at 11:32 AM
>Great stuff, tullfan! It confirms
>our speculation then! I also
>see a shot of Christina
>and Greg, in the latest
>promo, and I think it
>is from the start of
>the water challenge, which would
>make it post ep 1,
>AND post tribal shuffle....Christina will
>be on Manono, Orange tribe
>with Greg post tribal shuffle.
>
>
>I will try and go to
>Skills to check them out,
>thanks! I agree Kim
>is going to be one
>to watch....I'll remember that you
>said it first if she
>wins!
>
>
>
>
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Flowerpower, you are right. In Leif's video you cans see that Christina is in that challenge and ends up on Manono post-swap. The video for Kim spoils that the women win the coconut sling shot challenge. Colton's video shows him talking to a group of women and saying that he is "gong ot destroy them". Sounds like Colton is on the outs on the men's tribe early on.
"RE: S24:OW Pre-Show Vidcaps"
Posted by Flowerpower on 02-02-12 at 11:51 AM
LAST EDITED ON 02-02-12 AT 12:24 PM (EST)Here is the video promo showing that the girls win a challenge in episode 2....NOTE that it is pre-tribal shuffle. It could be the coconut sling shot challenge but it may not be. Note that there are mud slides, and ring tosses as well. There could be 2 challenges in ep 2, a reward and an IC...
Clearly, the women win it, so my spec is that they win a reward challenge. I think the first 2 boots are both women, as we see ALL of the men accounted for in the water challlenge, which is post tribal shuffle...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWxezg4gYMw
Click on replay to see it! Also there are new videos found on youtube if you just type in:
Survivor One world Leif, Survivor one world Colton, Survivor One world Alicia
Good stuff! Still, I can find NO vidcap evidence of Kourtney, Chelsea, or Nina! Keep looking!
New vidcaps from promo on Kim....clearly the girls win this challenge. I don't know if it is the sling shot coconut challenge or not, but I certainly suspect that it is a REWARD challenge, as I speculate that the first 2 boots are both female, as all the men in the water challenge, post tribal shuffle challenge are seen in vidcaps.
Here are the shots of the Salani tribe, pre tribal shuffle challenge that they WIN:
Here is who I see in these frames going left to right...Alicia, Kat, Monica, Matt, Michael, Kimberly, Christina, Troyzan, and Sabrina on the far right of the frame....no siting of Kourtney, Chelsea, or Nina, that I can see....
"RE: S24:OW Pre-Show Vidcaps"
Posted by tullfan on 02-02-12 at 12:05 PM
I would be surprised if Chelsea is voted out so early. She is very strong and is one of Probst's favorites to win. Maybe Chelsea is the med-evac. Note that Colton is talking to Nina, Kimberly, Kat and Alicia when he gives his rant in his video.
"RE: S24:OW Pre-Show Vidcaps"
Posted by Flowerpower on 02-02-12 at 12:17 PM
LAST EDITED ON 02-02-12 AT 01:04 PM (EST)Tullfan: Yes, I agree, I would be shocked to see if Chelsea is voted out early as well, but we just don't know. Most likely Kourtney is the med-evac, no? OFG has spoiled that she breaks her arm, of course we don't know if it is during the show, or AFTER the show....could have occured at any time, so we don't know if it is while competing or even while they are taping. We just know that when she was away from home, the USA, that she broke her arm. Regardless, however, we just do not have any evidence of them in any of the vidcaps. I posted the shots of Salani winning the challenge in the above post, edited them in, and still there is no siting of Kourtney, Nina, or Chelsea. I really suspect that 2 of those three are our first boots, while one is left to be on the Orange, Manono tribe post shuffle.
ETA: After going back and watching the One World: Kim promo, I agree that there are 2 challenges shown. The one that they win as noted above, may indeed be the sling shot coconut challenge...note that Kim's hair is BRAIDED...
Now, taken from the mudslide and ring toss challenge...
Here she is in mid ring toss, note her hair is pulled back and tucked into the elastic pony tail holder, but NOT in a braid...
Now here, from most likely the same challenge but the mudslide part of it....note her hair, pulled back and tucked in the elastic but NOT in a braid...
In this picture you can see that Kim is wearing her blue buff around her middle, just below her bathing suit top....so, we can not tell if this challenge, the ring toss/mudslide challenge is PRE Tribal shuffle, OR POST tribal shuffle. I would speculate that it is post tribal shuffle....fwiw.
"RE: S24:OW Pre-Show Vidcaps"
Posted by Blind Freddy on 02-02-12 at 01:58 PM
Good job all on the IDs!Just to note in a frame by frame analysis, there is a 7th person's arm visible high-fiveing Kat from the left side of the frame...so *presumably* female. At that sec of frame Alica is hidden behind Kat and Michael & Matt are behind Monica
So apparently 7 females tribe menbers are present and at least 5 male tribe members are present.
Present...
Females(blue buffs): Kim, Kat, Christine, Sabrina, Alicia, Monica + 1 unknown
Males(orange buffs): Matt, Michael, Troy, Greg, Leif
Missing/not IDed....
Females: Chelsea, Nina, Kourtney (Note: one of these 3 is likely the arm in the left of frame in pic above)
Males: Jonas, Jay, Colton, Bill
"RE: S24:OW Pre-Show Vidcaps"
Posted by Flowerpower on 02-02-12 at 02:18 PM
LAST EDITED ON 02-02-12 AT 02:22 PM (EST)
Thanks for the labels, Blind Freddy! I had missed Leif! And, you are right, that is a different arm that can be ID'd.
Also, note the ropes at the front of where the guys are standing....I have drawn a red arrow pointing to them....are these from the sling shot challenge or no? These ropes do not look like the slings for the sling shots...
For comparison, here are shots of the sling shot challenges....
Also, I think this seals the deal, here is a shot of the sling shot challenge run by the press, and clearly the apparatus in front of the guys when they lose the challenge is NOT the sling shot challenge!!!
Speculation: Could the challenge that the girls, tribe Salani, pre-tribal shuffle, be the reward challenge of episode 2, girls win. Then the sling shot challenge, as seen above, done PRE-tribal shuffle be the IC, that most likely the men on Manono will win?
"Leif promo (water chal)"
Posted by Blind Freddy on 02-02-12 at 12:47 PM
LAST EDITED ON 02-02-12 AT 12:54 PM (EST)LAST EDITED ON 02-02-12 AT 12:48 PM (EST)
Here is the Leif promo as posted at Survivor Fever(ty Mayan Sun)
I know it's already being discussed for IDs in some catch-all promo posts above, but thought it best to post it here separately to allow for comment specifically to it.
Leif promo video link:
http://www.cbs.com/shows/survivor/video/2192053563/survivor-one-world-leif
SF vidcap page link:
http://www.survivorfever.net/vc_s24_leif.html
Transcript:
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Announcer: On the new Survivor looks can be deceiving.
Leif: Being a little person, people underestimate me.
Jeff: Leif, the smallest guy out there but working the hardest.
Leif: But the bigger they are the harder they fall, right?
People won't even know what hit them.
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Comment:
Leif is clearly present in this water chal (volleyball) as well as Sabrina. Also apparently present is Michael and an additional orange buff gal...speced by some to be Christina. Your thoughts?
"RE: Leif promo (water chal)"
Posted by Flowerpower on 02-02-12 at 01:14 PM
Thanks so much for posting BF! Great to have the whole promo, I just went and grabbed a few shots taken from the youtube video. Clearly, Leif and Christina are on the orange tribe, Manono. Also good to note is this...
The water basketball game, post tribal swap is indeed for IMMUNITY!
In this shot we have Michael on blue, trying to get Leif out of the way...
....while Sabrina, on blue, has her arms around a girl on orange tribe, who has the ball....wish I could see who that was...
Also Blind Freddy, could you blow up this shot and check if you can make out the folks that are on the left side of the frame....
"RE: Leif promo (water chal)"
Posted by Blind Freddy on 02-02-12 at 02:31 PM
Hereyago...not sure how much it will help. This is a crop from the full size 720 HD frame. unaltered
"RE: Leif promo (water chal)"
Posted by Flowerpower on 02-02-12 at 02:41 PM
Thanks so much, BF....still can't make out anyone...;-(Appreciate the blow up though!
"Kim promo - slip/slide & ring toss chals, celebration"
Posted by Blind Freddy on 02-02-12 at 03:10 PM
Here's the Kim promo that shows several chal scenes...all most likely from post E1 timeframes. Slip/slide chal, ring toss chal and a victory celebration by the women.Video link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWxezg4gYMw
Vidcaps/transcript page at Survivor fever (ty Mayan Sun)
http://www.survivorfever.net/vc_s24_kim.html
Transcript:
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Announcer: On the new survivor, an all around threat.
Kim: I'm a huge fan of the game and it gives me a huge
advantage.
Jeff Probst (calling slip/slide challenge): Big launch!
Kim: I'm competitive. I'm really tough. I just want to
PLAY BIG. I'm passionate about the game. I love the game.
I really can't believe I'm here.
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"RE: Kim promo - slip/slide & ring toss chals, celebration"
Posted by Flowerpower on 02-02-12 at 04:06 PM
Thanks for posting, BF! It was fun to spoil it before it was posted.... I agree with you...promo that shows several chal scenes...all most likely from post E1 timeframes.
Episode one challenge was done when they did not have their bathing suits. Also note in the frame below, there is Colton, sitting down on the left side of the frame...
"RE: Kim promo - slip/slide & ring toss chals, celebration"
Posted by Blind Freddy on 02-02-12 at 04:42 PM
Re: "Colton, sitting down on the left side of the frame"Good catch...I missed that I was so focused on the foreground...lol.
So remaining missing in action are Bill, Jonas & Jay for the guys and Kourtney, Nina and Chelsea for the gals. So if Colton is sitting this chal out, then perhaps the guys might be up in numbers at this timeframe.
"RE: Kim promo - slip/slide & ring toss chals, celebration"
Posted by Blind Freddy on 02-02-12 at 06:19 PM
Adding on some more things I noticed....Everyone is wearing a waist belt in this chal w/a leash & clip. So I spec that this chal is some kind of relay or 'free your tribmates' type chal with Sabrina apparently the last 'freed' tribemate.
And I've found Jay. Looks like he might be sitting???...but this is a different area from Colton and behind the active players. I can't tell for sure if he's wearing a chal belt but it kinda looks like he might be wearing one.
"RE: Kim promo - slip/slide & ring toss chals, celebration"
Posted by Flowerpower on 02-02-12 at 07:20 PM
Great work, Blind Freddy! Awesome eyes! This could be a challenge like last year, the maypole challenge, where they had to wrap the pole, then relay over to others who had to do a puzzle on the ground....they used those waist belts then as well. And, the one's that did the pole wrap waited in a holding pen, such as the one we see in that vidcap with the girls celebrating....And, yes, that is Jay. I think Colton is sitting the challenge out, so, as you note, just more evidence that the girls lose the episode one challenge.
Well done!
"Colton promo - confronts Bill pitch to 4 gals"
Posted by Blind Freddy on 02-02-12 at 03:47 PM
Here's the Colton promo which shows a confrontation between Colton and Bill. Plus Colton pitches his line to 4 gals: IDs? Nina/Kim/Kat/Alicia.Video link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up23ZLEbVBs&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
Vidcaps at Survivor Fever (ty Mayan)
http://www.survivorfever.net/vc_s24_colton.html
Transcript:
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Announcer: On the new Survivor, there will be snakes
Colton (talking to Nina, Kim, Kat, Alicia): If they want to play
this game, I will destroy them.
Colton (talking to Bill): I'm gonna go tell.
Colton (camera confessional): I won't backstab anyone.
If I want to stab them I will backstab them in the face.
Bill (pointing his finger at Colton): You don't sit here and talk
to people however you want to, dude.
Colton (camera confessional): I can be scary when i need to be.
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"RE: Colton promo - confronts Bill pitch to 4 gals"
Posted by Flowerpower on 02-02-12 at 04:09 PM
Thanks for posting these here, BF. I think in this frame...Colton (talking to Nina, Kim, Kat, Alicia): If they want to play
this game, I will destroy them.
Colton is clearly talking to these girls as allies, no matter who's tribe he is on. He is talking to them most likely about some of the guys on his tribe...imo
"RE: Colton promo - confronts Bill pitch to 4 gals"
Posted by tullfan on 02-02-12 at 07:59 PM
For what its worth, there is an additional 20 second promo for Sabrina up at Skills now. It shows her going up against Christina in the water challenge. I doubt that there is anything there that will give us the missing Manono female. I agree with the consensus that the first 2 out are likely to be Kourtney and Nina. It is also possible that this season could be like Samoa where 3 contestants were eliminated in the first 2 episodes (2 voted out and 1 evacuated) which is why we never see any of those 3 women in the challenge, If that were the case then it would be odd that Salani would have 8 to 7 on Manono but with an even distribution mix it wouldn't really make any difference and Manono does have 5 men to 4 on Salani.
"Sabrina promo - water chal w/Christina"
Posted by Blind Freddy on 02-02-12 at 10:04 PM
Here's the Sabrina promo that shows Sabrina(w/blue buff) and Christina(w/orange buff) in the water chal and Sabrina w/blue buff in sling shot chal.Video link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NpVXEwWFn-g
Vidcaps at Survivor Fever here(ty Mayan)
http://www.survivorfever.net/vc_s24_sabrina.html
Transcript:
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Announcer: On the new Survivor, one Survivor is looking to school the
competition.
Sabrina: I'm a high school teacher in one of the roughest neighborhoods
in Brooklyn...
Jeff Probst (calling a challenge): Sabrina! Great defense!
Sabrina: ...I'm stepping over syringes and I'm dodging pitbulls.
I'm ready to rock and roll. I am a competitor.
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"Press Images"
Posted by tribephyl on 02-05-12 at 06:06 AM
"Observations from Press"
Posted by Flowerpower on 02-06-12 at 09:02 AM
LAST EDITED ON 02-06-12 AT 09:05 AM (EST)Thanks for posting, Tribe. First of all, they disembark from the truck, and Jiffy splits them into girls vs. boys. They are given directions to their camp, the girls get there first. A few supplies are there in a bag on the camp banner, along with a bag of brand new buffs. Buffs are passed out, and directions are given, in the form of tree mail. Note, Leif and Tarzan going over them.
For the most part it seems the boys stayed with the boys, and the girls stayed with the girls. Except Colton, who seemed to gravitate more toward the women than the guys as noted...
....and of course we have the video footage of him telling the ladies that: If they want to play this game, I will destroy them. **Please note that the press image just above of Colton and Kat, Kat has the same yellow hair band on her wrist as she does below...most likely the two pictures are from the same time frame...
and, telling Bill later, that he'll vote him out, and then Bill yelling at him,
Bill (pointing his finger at Colton): You don't sit here and talk
to people however you want to, dude.
To tell you the truth, I can not tell if they have built one large shelter, OR, two separate shelters?
Then we have the challenge shots, and note here, that the boys are winning during the balance beam portion...of course we know that they will indeed win...
One other observation that I made....
Look on the tree behind Sabrina....those look like tally marks to me, the ones that Ozzy made with his machete when he was on Redemption Island! WOW! Same place where Ozzy was living! Beautiful!
"RE: S24:OW Pre-Show Vidcaps"
Posted by Outfrontgirl on 02-06-12 at 07:17 PM
Wow, we sure have a ton of vidcaps now! And more to come no doubt ...I have an extremely presumptuous request/idea, in that it asks for other people to do work ... so I do not EXPECT it from our hard-working vidcap experts, but I think it would help ...
I wonder if at this time we could have new vidcap topics that are sorted as best as possible into time frames, as in:
Ep 1
Ep 2 pre-swap
Ep 3 and later post-swap.
I just spent ten minutes scrolling up and down looking for a shot I had seen last time I was here, and could not find it. My finger got sore from scrolling.
I really like the MESS Hall format for each episode. They do one topic for each challenge. Those are for vidcaps and whatever else is known about the challenge only.
Then they do a topic for Riddles, which is the episode topic for the misdirection, teasers, and so forth, which gets all the in-camp vidcaps. Then they post a NEW topic for each episode for discussing editing, which is the Story Arcs topic.
This organization keeps topics from getting unwieldy.
Just a thought. But in any case, I really think it is time to sort the caps into Ep 1, pre-swap, and post-swap. Preferable with the different challenges of the post-swap having their own sections so that all the shots we think are in that challenge are compiled together.
"RE: S24:OW Pre-Show Vidcaps"
Posted by tribephyl on 02-06-12 at 07:43 PM
Yes. That will be the norm from here on out.
In fact when posting some of the above caps I was tempted to label them ep 1, future ep, blah blah but as I quickly figured out there are at least 3 different challenges shown and I was not able to definitively place any challenge as ep 1, ep 2 or after. Therefore rather than set up multiple threads that may or may not be for the actual episode they are from I figured a catchall was best to start with.However, I sense that that will soon change.
So I can promise that ep2 will be getting it's own thread. and every episode afterwards, just like every season prior, here at Blows.
"RE: S24:OW Pre-Show Vidcaps"
Posted by Outfrontgirl on 02-06-12 at 10:44 PM
Thanks for responding, tribe!So I can promise that ep2 will be getting it's own thread. and every episode afterwards, just like every season prior, here at Blows.
Oh, I did assume that. I know this is just pre-premiere chaos. However, I think it has reached the level where a new vidcaps topic is warranted even to spoil Ep 1. I seriously cannot find anything I want in this topic due to its size alone. You all have done a bang up job of labeling the promos and organizing, but they are simply too many caps at this point to navigate it. I mean, it took me MINUTES just to scroll back up to where I could get to the listing of posts.
I think FlowerPower has done a great job of separating which challenge is in which caps, and that the future topics could be started now, but maybe just an Ep 1 topic and a Future episodes topic.
I don't even care if some of the guesses are wrong. That doesn't override how useful it would be to have a topic with the known future challenge caps.
"RE: S24:OW Pre-Show Vidcaps"
Posted by tribephyl on 02-07-12 at 02:16 AM
true that. and since we are heading into the '1 week left' phase we'll get a battery of new commercials to ponder over. If I get to it first, I will start a new thread, as at 81 messages this one is getting unwieldy, and I am in agreement, we should definitely move on. *rubs hands together*
Checks SF.
Nope.
"RE: S24:OW Pre-Show Vidcaps"
Posted by Outfrontgirl on 02-07-12 at 03:22 AM
you're awesome, tribe ...