With his arms up in the air, though, it almost seems like Rob's at least in it at the very end. Otherwise, he'd (presumably) be facing downwards on hands/knees, further down the stairs, unable to climb to the top after exhausting himself (and it looks like he IS at the top there, with the flag strings & pole)

I don't think he'd be able to beat Grant, but it sure looks like he has finished building the steps here.

It is an exhausting challenge; I think they all would sit after it has been won, even the winner. If Rob doesn't win he's a close second.

This long shot of the challenge structure shows what look to be the "raise your flag" poles at the top.

Squid...you must have missed what VG wrote....

The structure has three different sections with missing treads. The top of the structure possibly features the time-tested 'raise your flag' to determine winner element (see ropes behind Rob in CU shot.)

Yes, there is a raise the flag apparatus at the top of the challenge. I agree that this picture of Rob at the end could be misleading. As we see him sitting at the top in total exhaustion, he could have possibly won it, and has to collapse before he can celebrate....(Still looks like anguish to me though....)

His confessional regarding the making it all the way to 32 days to have it all end, or something to that effect, could be misleading as well.

But, I agree, to me this looks like it should be Grant's to win.

Rob's reaction could be because he was so close to winning but got edged out at the end.

That's the vibe I'm getting too. And Jeff mentioned in his blog that it's a "kick-a" challenge with a dramatic finish, so that would fit.

Don't see how this challenge is fair for the women, though.

Squid, I think if we look at all the post-merge challenges over the years, they are not designed to be fair to all. That's exactly why weaker people who want to have a shot at winning need to vote challenge ho's like Grant out at the first opportunity.

Then typically the very last challenge is not very fair to a strong man. That's the only one that Terry Deitz lost, for example.

It is with the RI challenges that they've balanced them not to favor strength, which is odd because RI was a blatant effort to help the strong players who get voted out post-merge, like Mike, to stay in the game. I am wondering if that will change and they will make a really tough challenge or two before the end.

Thanks VG for the caps.

So order of events seems to be....

- Treemail(spec) brings the Sprint phone
- Cast watches video teasers from all the cast families (Nat/Ashley shown watching/crying)
- Rob holds Sprint phone doling out the fam love, so that he gets brownie points.
- Tribe walks to RC/IC(IN shown in Phillip pic) w/Grant holding phone(no brownie points there)
- Tribes compete at RC/IC
- Stairs chal exhausts cast
- Rob shown on top platform exhausted by flagpole, Andrea shown just below top platform exhausted, Grant shown at lower level, Ashley shown exhausted at lower(?) level.
- Winner gets Immunity and possible extended Family video...or...actual visit with Family. Possible come-withs also get FV, or winner gets no FV in exchange for others getting a FV {as per previous itinerations of the FV)...

My spec on chal flow...
In order for the cast to be that exhausted, they are going to have to climb the stairs multiple times. I'm guessing that they can only carry ONE tread at any given time(thus the multiple trips). There are 3 base station poles w/treads leaning against them at the bottom. There are 3 sections of missing treads...each section w/6 missing treads = total of 18 missing treads. In previous version of missing tread-type chals, the treads have a puzzle aspect where each tread only fits one set of pegs and thus one correct location. This will produce many many trips up and down the stairs.

The early treads will go fairly quick, but as they get higher and higher it will become much slower and more difficult.

Grant would seem to have an advantage from prior training in Football climbing stadium steps and he's in the best shape right now...but that's just spec.

Your thoughts?

LAST EDITED ON 04-28-11 AT 12:45 PM (EST)

Freddy, I agree with your challenge spec. It does appear that they have to make multiple trips up and down, which would add to the exhaustion. (Looks like the planks are stacked up by the 3 poles/stations at the bottom.) If there is a puzzle at the very end, that would help equalize things between Rob and Grant and would add to the "dramatic finish" that Jeff teases about in his video blog. I do think Rob looks like he's collapsing in exhaustion/defeat at the very top.

I am still unclear about the timing of the family videos and the Ome 6 marching along the beach. None of them are wearing an immunity necklace in that shot where Grant is holding the Sprint package, so I don't think they're going to/from IC unless something was photoshopped out. Could they be going to/from RI to watch this week's quadruel? Will the RI players get home videos too?

If you compare, Natalie's hair is different in the shelter shot (where Rob's telling them someone has to go to RI) vs. the Sprint video watching shot vs. the marching along the beach shot (3 different hairstyles)....so I think these are 3 separate times.

Re general timing: Will have to watch the clip to be sure, but it looks like it's raining in the shelter shot...vs. some of the sunnier shots.

BF and Squid - I was trying to work on the timing of the Sprint phone events as well. I made a post about it at MeSS earlier, which covers essentially the same points Squid made.

Camp

Walk (to/from RI?)

Challenge

Difference in clothes / hair

I am puzzled by the Phillip cap. Because of the perspective, it almost looks as if the IN is situated at the top of the structure.

It is indeed raining when they are huddled in the shelter.

Great thoughts Blind Freddy, Squid, and VG! So, more than likely they get the phone in tree mail, and perhaps are instructed to share with the ones on RI. Most likely we see Grant carrying it on the way to the quad-ruel. This will be a fun episode....

Something in the Press Release may indicate what happens: "Tree mail leaves one tribe member with a tough emotional decision."

http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor/video/?pid=yj9Myl0oZXOxe2wrsyWMBOf52B7Ub5bc

Yay...family visit! And Phillip says he's just been pretending all along as strategy - ha! This is gonna be good -- thanks VG.

Would someone be kind enough to put up a transcript for those of us in Canada that CBS won't allow to watch current videos, but will let us see videos from last season...huh?

Thanks.

LAST EDITED ON 04-28-11 AT 10:45 PM (EST)

TQ, here's a very rough transcript to give you a flavor of the promo -- hopefully a better one will come soon with the vidcaps.

VO: For 12 weeks (?), Phillip has angered everyone...

Ashley conf (looking at his pink undies): Gross!

VO: Alienated the entire tribe...

Phil conf: I made myself the villain

VO: And acted crazy

Phil makes crazy sound

VO/Screen cap: But guess what...

Phil laughs evil laugh

VO/Screen cap: He's just been pretending

Phil conf: It's brilliant strategy

VO: Or has he?

Rob: Is he that good?

VO: Plus, love from home is pretty nice

Jeff: The winner wins love from home

Grant conf: It's priceless

VO: Who will get it? Who will sacrifice for it?

Matt conf: I will do anything I can to win today(or something along those lines)
------------

The Phil section has mainly old vidcaps of his antics...but the visit from home section shows everyone sitting at RI and then the parents coming into the arena....also shows the 4 guys on RI standing and waiting for their duel.

Hope this helps!

Thank you SquidProQuo! I have dial-up and cannot watch any video and have a hard time seeing lots of photos cause they take so long to come up or just don't. Appreciate the descriptions of photos and videos by everyone!

LAST EDITED ON 04-28-11 AT 11:52 PM (EST)

Your posts are so elegant VG! Love it.

I will also repeat something I just wrote at MESS after seeing the new promo:
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OK, so now we know (yay VG, thanks!) that the shot of six with the Sprint box relates to the family visit/duel scenario.

I can't make out from the promo what the rules are ... but is there any chance that none of the Ometepe get a visit, that it's sort of Pearl Islands like in that the ghost tribe at RI can win the visit?

I had noticed that the Ometepe look unhappy, which doesn't make a lot of sense walking towards a duel with a video phone that should have gotten them excited.
Could they have just lost a chance to get love, as Jeff puts it?

Maybe their heads are a little down because the sun is in their eyes, but they look kind of sad and defeated to me. And do they always wear buffs to RI like they do to challenges? Because they are wearing them here, which makes me wonder if they competed.

What if the pics of Ashley and Natalie crying come after they get back, because they get to watch clips but lose out on the full love package?

Here, we see they are HAPPY watching the phone clips in the top cap.

Here, not so much?

Natalie has taken her hair down after the walk, or she puts it up for the walk, depending on the chronology, and Andrea has a buff hairband in happy shot, buff top on the walk.

ETA -- Ashley crying has on the same pink top as when they are walking, buff still in same position. Too bad she's not visible in the happy shot.

Should have read this post before making my own. Sorry, OFG.

I think the order might be:
- Sprint box delivered to RI

- RI players arrive at Arena, Probst announces that winner gets to view video from loved one

- Unclear if loved ones show up before or after the duel is run.
- Duel is run - Steve and Ralph eliminated?

- Unclear as to how sacrifice might work. Perhaps winners of RI duel are asked if they will give up their videos so the Murlonio can view theirs? Then loved ones appear?

- Murlonio returns to camp to watch videos

That's what I was thinking, although I had only seen the video and couldn't get it to slow down enough to see that only Matt and Mike got a loved one photo, or to see the box in Matt's hand.

The good thing about you not reading my post first, is we can see that we both independently thought Murlonia is walking back in that photo, and doesn't get the full "love."

I find it bizarre though that CBS would fly all those family members out with the intent of proposing an option whereby all but two are turned around. In recent seasons they have leaned much more towards helf the people getting a visit.

Well, lets figure out how the sacrifice works.

Also, it is odd that two leave RI, because that means they will not need a duel in Ep 13. 2 safe this time, plus one voted out = 3. Plus 1 to be voted out in Ep 13, that gives us the final 4 RI people without another duel.

That means these winners go from Day 31 to Day 36 doing essentially nothing. I don't see that happening.

Are you speculating that 2 leave RI this to jury bc only Matt's and Mike's loved ones are shown?

emydi, other people are speculating that, but I'm saying that the numbers allow for one person leaving same as last two weeks. We shouldn't assume they are giving us the quadruel winners, IMHO.

LAST EDITED ON 05-02-11 AT 12:46 PM (EST)

Thanks. I think only one leaves each episode until the final RI Quadruel in the finale.

VO: For 12 weeks, Phillip has angered everyone...
Ashley: "It's gross!"
VO: ... alienated the entire tribe...
Phillip: "I made myself the villain."
VO: ... and acted crazy.
Phillip:
VO: But guess what?
Phillip:
VO: He's just been pretending.
Phillip: "It's brilliant strategy."
VO: Or has he?
Rob: "Is he that good?"

VO: Plus...
Probst: "Love from home. It's pretty nice."
Probst: "The winner wins love from home."
VO: Who will get it?
Grant: "It's priceless, man."
VO: Who will sacrifice for it?
Matt: "I will do anything I can to win today."
VO: New Survivor, CBS Wednesday.

It appears that Matt brings the box to the duel.

When the loved ones are entering the arena, Matt is no longer wearing his bag over his shoulder, Mike is shown, but neither Ralph nor Steve are seen. Perhaps this is after the duel has been run, Matt and Mike have survived?

Since the Murlonio players are walking back somewhat dejected with the Sprint box, perhaps the sacrifice involved a choice about videos which resulted in some players (RI players) getting the visit while the tribe goes back to camp with the videos?

Thanks VG! Since Matt's carrying the same kind of Sprint box as Grant had, it seems to make sense that both Ome and the RI folks get the box with tree mail and bring it with them to the RI arena.

The challenge appears to be only set up for 4, right? Just trying to figure out if everyone competes in an RC or if this is truly just a duel among the 4.

If it's an RC where everyone competes, then it's easy to see how the loved ones part works out. But if it's just an RI duel, how do the Omes get a chance to be with their loved ones?

Just spec, but could the "sacrifice" be that the RI winner gets the visit UNLESS they're willing to curry favor with the Omes by giving up their visit for one/all of them? If Matt wins, I could definitely see him thumbing his nose at the Omes and taking the visit.

Just throwing out ideas, but another spec option could be that each Ome needs to place a pick on which RI person will win...if they pick the correct winner, then they get the loved one reward visit with them. That would help to stir the pot based on who picks whom...and also spur interaction between Omes and RI folks. E.g., would be very interesting if someone like Andrea got to go on a reward visit with Matt and his brother.

Any other ideas? Also, do we think that the loved ones compete in the RI duel? Matt and his brother would seem to be unbeatable.

P.S. Interesting who we DON'T see -- Rob's, Grant's, Ralph's and Steve's loved ones.

Squid I was actually thinking along the same lines as you. That it's an RI duel and the winner gets to choose who gets the family visit in some way (ie another person or give up theirs so everyone else gets it)

This would be an interesting twist since the people on the other side voted them out (in Matt's case twice).

Not sure how Ome's would be able to participate in the challenge besides your suggestion of picking a winner.

I also wonder why they didnt show the other 4 loved ones. For Rob maybe to keep speculation about Amber coming (and she didnt?)

LAST EDITED ON 04-29-11 AT 09:38 AM (EST)

Thanks for posting, VG!

VO: For 12 weeks, Phillip has angered everyone...
Ashley: "It's gross!"
VO: ... alienated the entire tribe...
Phillip: "I made myself the villain."
VO: ... and acted crazy.
Phillip:
VO: But guess what?
Phillip:
VO: He's just been pretending.
Phillip: "It's brilliant strategy."
VO: Or has he?
Rob: "Is he that good?"

Well the promo talks about Phillip once again. This could be a record breaking season where crazy, nutty Phillip is the boot decoy every week. A Phillip siting here makes me believe that they are using him as the boot decoy to hide or cast doubt on another predictable boot...

VO: Plus...
Probst: "Love from home. It's pretty nice."
Probst: "The winner wins love from home."
VO: Who will get it?
Grant: "It's priceless, man."
VO: Who will sacrifice for it?
Matt: "I will do anything I can to win today."

So, what does the verbage tell us...

1. We definitely know that they receive packages in the tree mail and are instructed to bring them to the quad-reul. We see Grant walking with it here....

And, we see Matt bringing it here....

We also hear Matt say, "I will do anything I can to win today". So, more than likely he has an inkling of what is at stake at the Quad-ruel that is imminent.

But, with the Ometepe's walking back, they do not look filled with anticipation, but do look rather discouraged. They could be returning to Murlonio. But, do they show them leaving the duel arena's....no, not in the past. Maybe it's just paranoid Rob filling their heads with another "twist"?

Because at the Quad-ruel, they do seem to be reacting very excitedly and surprisingly....

But, maybe they arrive at the Quadruel without the box, and it's the RI tribe that receives the box in tree mail and goes to the arena with the box, as we see Matt with it. And somehow, the Ome's lose and are left with the box to take back to camp?

We get to see a glimpse of the Quad-ruel here....

It looks to be the toss the rock and break the fragile tiles challenge. We see here pictures of Matt and Mike seeing their loved ones enter the arena...

(Note that there is someone on Matt's immediate left in this frame. I do think that they have to see their loved ones BEFORE the start of the challenge as we have a shot of Natalie's mom walking in and the tiles are all intact, that she is walking past. The challenge hasn't been run yet....

But, I have drawn an arrow to a question that I had....there appears to be a disruption, or a difference in color here....has the challenge been run? We see the last tile of lane one and two, Matt's and Mike's lane's, still in tact. Is that third lane tile in tact or not?

But, on review, it looks like that darkened area is a rock?

And, here is a picture of Matt's brother entering and going by either lane 3 or 4, and those tiles look in tact as well. So, the loved ones must enter before the challenge has run...

We know that the winner wins love from home. The winner of what? The Quadruel? The IC? What? Will the winner of the RI Quadruel have to decide to...make the sacrifice so others can get the love?

Who will sacrifice for it? So, so far it looks like the winner of the Quadruel, most likely Matt as he gets the confessional, I will do anything to win today....will be called upon to make a sacrifice so that others can have their family visit. We see perhaps the family members file out after the Quadruel is over or before it has begun?

We see the Ome's walking back thinking that they are not going to get a chance to really have a visit...but, more than likely, the one who wins the challenge will have to make a similiar sacrifice and they will all get to visit with their loved ones....somehow. We know how Jiffy loves the love....

Now, regarding these pictures...

To me, these are likely before they go to the quadruel...I think this because they look like they have just woken up - Grant with his head covering especially....Nat and Ashley look like they have been crying a long time though, so perhaps it is when they come back to camp?

LAST EDITED ON 04-29-11 AT 09:14 PM (EST)

Very good work as usual, FloPo!

Do you or anyone recognize where the Ometepe are for the walking with Sprint box shot? Can we tell if they are going or coming? They show us nothing of the outside of the arena. I imagine there are many signs of production there that they don't want in the shots, plus they are driven there and back.

So the walk should be near camp -- coming or going? Perhaps they are outbound after all. I see them walking from the trees to the beach. Don't they walk down the beach to the pick-up point?

If you look at my post #33 that I made yesterday, I made some spec about the video caps coming from before and after the duel.
http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/DCForumID2/7676.shtml#33

What do you think?
Good observation about Grant's headgear. I buy that.

There is another shot with the phone where they are in swimwear and the mood seems up again. The wear bikinis to the IC but not to the duel. Before IC?

I am thinking if they have the phone after the duel, that they must bring it back for the IC?

From Rob's facial expression and hand gesture I'm getting: "I don't know."

Actually, I think we are all on the same page.

Basically, we all pretty much agree that tree mail brings them a package, that they can open and play....more than likely Phillip gets up first and goes to the tree mail and retrieves the package. They excitedly all get up and run the videos from home. Rob, the boss, holds the phone to deliver the sweet videos....they all look like they have just woken up...

We hear them at the end of their viewing all cheer, "Ometepe!" At this point they are still a nice, unified tribe.

Then...as OFG has observed they are leaving the woods and heading toward the beach. I kind of believe that this could be GOING to the RI....they all look serious and pensive. Probably feeling a bit emotional after the dramatic morning they have had. It looks HOT, as the guys have their shirts off...Definitely, it could be argued that they are returning from the Quad-ruel...

Then at the Quad-ruel, the 4 stooges show up...they must have gotten their video in the AM in tree mail as well...

When the family members walk in, the tiles are all in tact, so the quad-ruel has not been run yet. We hear Jiffy at the quad-ruel say...""Love from home. It's pretty nice.
The winner wins love from home." So, we know that the winner of the quad-ruel is going to be the one that has to make the sacrifice. We hear it all at the quad-ruel. I don't think the Ome's will get love at the quad-ruel. But, I do think that somehow the family will be present for the big challenge, and the winner of the IC will also have to make a "sacrifice" of some sort, we hear Grant note..."It's priceless, man!"

Now, getting back to the vidcaps....we have the challenge pics. More than likely one of the males will win, most likely Grant. Then we have this series of pictures...

As we hear Rob say..."One of us has to go to Redemption Island. That's a fact."

I found this interesting. Once again Phillip is the boot decoy here....As we hear Rob, "one of us has to go to RI. That's a fact" we have a shot of Phillip turning his head to Rob, and then a shot of Ashley (she wants Phillip to be GONE), then Rob noting it toward Grant.

This series highlights Phillip being the one to go to RI. Then, at the end of the preview we hear Rob note, "32 days of hard work, gone just like that!" He could be referring to his own safety, which I don't think that he is at this point, OR he could be referring to Phillip's safety. All of the hard work he did to keep Phillip in the game for naught, if they all want to get rid of him first.

Andrea will, Ashley will....but, I think in the end, it will be who Rob wants it to be. Nat and Grant and Phillip will vote for Andrea, imo, and Ashley more than likely will too.

VO: Wednesday, on CBS, an alliance of six is about to shatter. Will Boston Rob maintain control?

The Phillip reveal this week is standing out. Doing Survivor as RPG has always been a viable game, examples from the past would include Skupin the hunter and Coach the warrior. One of the problems with this sort of covert game is it is difficult to sustain, so the closer to one's own mentality the fantasy is the better. On the other hand, this is what covert operatives do, it is the job of a covert op to adopt a cover and sustain it as long and as completely as possible. Does the family visit trip up Phillip's game, does he drop his cover?

One of the big problems with that sort of game is there's no exit strategy except getting to Final and dropping cover, get eliminated sooner than that and you are stuck in real life with the perception you created in the game. Are they editing in an exit strategy now for Phillip?

Nothing really new here, but just adding it because the editing of this promo is so over-the-top pull at the heartstrings, it's worth a look.

(Dramatic music playing throughout promo)
Probst: "Love... from home... it's pretty nice."
(video and sounds of players reacting to appearance by loved ones overlap Probst's VO)
Grant: (confessional) "It's priceless, man."
VO: Who will get it?
Matt: (confessional) "I will do anything I can to win today."

Not sure if the cap above can help determine whether the duel has been run already or not, but I did want to point it out so it can be discussed.

If you check the tables as Natalie's loved one (mom?) walks by, the two in the background do not appear to have a block on it, while the one right next to her does. Since it isn't clear how the duel works, this may be meaningless, but just in case...

Yes, VG, I drew an arrow to that rock in post #39 above. Clearly you can see that Matt's and Mike's last tile is unbroken. The table that Nat's mom is walking past that has the rock on it is most likely Rooster's tile. I don't know what it means...his table looks intact, but there sure is a big rock on it...??? Then I tried to look at the table in front of that tile, and it looks like the corner is visible and intact....

Here is my pic with the arrow....note the corner of the prior tile appears to be intact...

Then, note these tiles in a row as Matt's brother appears....they also appear to be intact.

Taking in all of the tiles that appear to be intact, I am presuming that the family visitors appear prior to the Quad-reul....?

FP, so sorry! Not sure how I missed that.

What's more significant to me than the tiles being intact is the fact that there is a stone in that final space but none on the other two. If the duel in some way requires the stone to be moved in some way, that may be of interest. At any rate, it may indicate that this is after the duel.

Yes, very perplexing, VG. No stone on any of the other tables, except Roosters...the third set. I think Steve's tiles are seen when Matt's brother is in the frame, and those tiles are all intact without any rocks. Very disturbing, that rock sticks out like a sore thumb...I don't know what to make of it?

The table with the rock on it looks like it's the "end" (or beginning) of a line of breakable plates (with the end table looking unbreakable)

This photo shows Matt's other-end of the line of tables being flat with breakable tops (and shadows underneath the others')

So I'd guess that Natalie's mom, at the very least, arrives at the end of the game. Matt's brother might arrive at the end or beginning, hard to tell, since I think that's the unbreakable end.

I don't know what the rocks are on Ralph's table... if the challenge is to break some tables, like, a few feet in front of you, then that doesn't seem that hard!

Just noticed this TC Walk vidcap and "slow mo" video clip on Survivor Phoenix and wanted to bring it over asap. Tied up at work but hopefully someone can blow it up and see who is wearing the immunity necklace....I can't tell based on a quick look...but hopefully we can at least rule a few people out for sure based on this. Looks like Andrea definitely has her bag with her.

A big thanks to SP/VG!

http://resources.survivorphoenix.com/graphics/gallery/S22E12/S22E12_TC_Walk_slow

Thanks for bringing this over, and thanks so much to VG, for always going the extra mile with the footage that is offered. Squid, this footage has already been blown up...here is the vidcap taken from the preview promo...

http://resources.survivorphoenix.com/graphics/gallery/S22E12/S22E12_TC_Walk_slow

I don't think that the IN is visible in the picture or the moving gif...what it all boils down to is Grant or Rob, imo. Whoever wins the immunity is key. If Rob wins, than Grant should be toast. I don't even think he would need to throw him under the bus, I think the 3 degrees and Phillip would be happy to boot him, regardless of any pre-arranged order.

No one out there is guaranteed a win against Grant later. If he is available to be booted now, then they either seize the opportunity, or they let Grant ride into the finals. At this point in the game it's me or you, and IF Grant isn't protected with the IN, they should all be very eager to vote him out.

If Grant indeed wins immunity, then I believe Andrea will go. She was identified as the most likely boot target last week by Grant and Rob. I think that once again Phillip is the misdirection.

Another tertiary boot candidate could be Ashley. She is in the promos as well...I think the only safe one is Natalie....food for thought.

Well, based on that moving vidcap, I'd venture to say that IF the DAWs are indeed walking to Tribal Council with their torches and bags, than I'd have to say it looks like Robfadda is our Immunity Winner. I see everyone else in that clip carrying their bags except Rob!!! And if this is the case, my money's on Grant to be voted out this week.

Great detective work there from Volcanic Glass! Thanks for sharing this with us Squid and FloPo.

Well, regarding whether or not that there is a bag there or not on Rob, and if there is an IN on someone, I can't say. I have gone out on a limb thinking I see something and in actuality, it's not there. I think this clip is so far away, and so much detail is lost with the zoom in. I just don't know, I think it's too far away to make a definitive call...

I think it must be either Rob or Grant that has the IN...

LAST EDITED ON 05-03-11 AT 09:10 AM (EST)

It looks that way to me, too... good catch!!

I'm not sold on Grant getting kicked out though. It makes sense, since he spiked in airtime last week. But logically, from a tribe standpoint, it should be Andrea.

Storywise, it should also be Andrea, setting up a reunion with Matt next week on their lovers-spat island (and eating most of the airtime while they debate whether to boot Phillip or Ashley).

Alternatively, they could hold the Matt/Andrea reunion on the last episode, and she could (kick him out) again in a dramatic twist. That'd also be a good story. But the last episode doesn't need extra drama, so I'm guessing Andrea goes so next week can be dramatic/exciting.

But as far as immunity goes this week, I'm placing heavy money on Rob like you said, due to the "sitting facing away from the flag at the top of the steps" picture (if he hadn't won, he'd've been facing downwards in exhaustion - unless he was just going down the steps again... but how likely is that?), and now this one.

The only definite statement one can definitely make about this sequence is that there is nothing definitive about it.

;)

LAST EDITED ON 05-03-11 AT 11:08 AM (EST)

The only definite statement one can definitely make about this sequence is that there is nothing definitive about it.

Here, here, VG. Well said. I couldn't agree more....but you have brilliantly given us the option to come to that decision ourselves, and for that we are most grateful! It does however plant a "seed"....maybe...

>The only definite statement one can
>definitely make about this sequence
>is that there is nothing
>definitive about it.
>
>;)

I concur.

"Sometimes it's not enough to know what things mean, sometimes you have to know what things don't mean." — Bob Dylan