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"Best TC speech ever?"
Posted by esquire on 05-17-10 at 02:13 PM
LAST EDITED ON 05-18-10 AT 09:21 AM (EST)

I never thought I would say this, but Sandra's address to the jury may be the best speech to the jury in Survivor history.

Sandra realized that Russell was the most hated survivor ever prior to TC. She then made a short and sweet speech to that jury that made 1 main point. She told the jury I got to the end telling you guys that Russell was an awful human being and needs to be voted out. You ignored me at your own peril and that is why you are gone. That point was the perfect point to make to this jury. They hated Russell (if you watch the Ponderosa clips you can see how much he is disliked by the jury) and she validated that hate. I can't think of any speech that so succinctly made the exact point that the jury wanted to hear.

Can anyone think of any TC speech that was better?

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"RE: Best TC speech ever?"
Posted by samboohoo on 05-17-10 at 03:39 PM
I tend to agree, although I think I recall Todd's being good as well because he talked about it being a game and made that sink in.

Sandra's one flaw I thought was addressed by Jerri in that she didn't really have Jerri's back. And if she did, we really didn't get to see her argue that.

I thought it was odd that we didn't see every jury member address all of them, and we didn't get the closing arguments. Were there none? Or were they just edited out?


Samboobree, brought to life by Arkie


"RE: Best TC speech ever?"
Posted by CTgirl on 05-17-10 at 04:15 PM
>I thought it was odd that
>we didn't see every jury
>member address all of them,
>and we didn't get the
>closing arguments. Were there
>none? Or were they
>just edited out?

This is one of the reasons I don't like a F3. In the interest of time we don't see everyone address everyone and I'm pretty sure that at least one other time we didn't hear closing statements from the F3 either.

Danielle's comments to Russell about everyone hating him made me think that there was a lot more said to him that we didn't see.

"RE: Best TC speech ever?"
Posted by Round Robin on 05-18-10 at 01:02 AM
I'm sure they edited the hell out of it. I have read in the past that final TC's often last 2 hours or more and are heavily edited not only for time but for dramatic effect. It would have been overkill to show all the new @$$holes the jury probably tore in RussHell, so they just showed us a sampling of it. Even with the little bit they showed, and even if the season hadn't been so well spoiled, you could have easily figured that the Chrome Dome Gnome didn't win just based on the portions of the final TC that were shown.
"RE: Best TC speech ever?"
Posted by Belle Book on 05-17-10 at 05:08 PM
Perhaps Chris from Vanuatu, but this would certainly be in the Top 3. Sandra hated RussHell and wanted him gone -- or at least she didn't want him to win -- and that may be why she knew that the jury hated him and was able to tell them what they wanted to hear.


"RE: Best TC speech ever?"
Posted by zazzy on 05-17-10 at 05:42 PM
I loved the point that Sandra made to the jury.

Sue's rat and snake speech in S1 is one of the most memorable speeches by a jury member for me.

I haven't seen all the seasons so I can't say whether Sandra's speech is the best.

"RE: Best TC speech ever?"
Posted by Flipper on 05-17-10 at 06:14 PM
As much as I admire Sandra & am happy for her win, I don't think I'd characterize her TC speech as one of the best ever (for sheer drama alone, I'd have to agree that Sue's Rat & Snake speech is the Shakespeare solioquy of all TC speeches). Actually I think Sandra's genius at TC has more to do with her amazing use of restraint and what she doesn't say. Russell called her lippy, & it would seem she cultivates that reputation (i.e. telling Russell she's against him), but she actually holds back a lot of key information & criticism because she's so conscious of jury votes and the social aspect of the game. Other finalists and even winners have been flippant at the final TC, pointing out their great strategy used to get the questioner out with an attitude of "I know I won't get your vote anyway, so who cares", but Sandra really knows when to hold back, as when Ben dismissed her as a riding Russell's coat tails. I'm sure she might have liked to tell him he was on the jury due to her wheeling & dealing in the background, but she didn't. His vote may truly have been lost to her under any circumstances, but another undecided juror may have been offended at her actions, so it was smart of her to keep quiet. I'd give her the prize for most effective, succint speech, but best strategic use of restraint ever. I want to also say that for me Rupert's speech was the most touching because he had been a favorite of mine in past seasons & this season he had a terrible edit right up until the end when he redeemed himself & possibly rallied some votes Sandra's way. Humble admissions of game play errors in Survivor are not often shown & I really appreciated seeing his changed attitude.

Flipper

"RE: Best TC speech ever?"
Posted by ADKer on 05-18-10 at 08:05 PM
Agree with you on all points but especially Rupert's speech. The man is the class act that he aspires to be.
"RE: Best TC speech ever?"
Posted by kingfish on 05-18-10 at 07:27 AM
I'd say, in terms of achieving the goal of possibly swaying a few votes her way, that that was an effective speech. Maybe the best ever. Todd's speech might have been pretty effective also, but it's hard to compare the relative effects of the speeches. I myself was more affected by Sandra's speech than anyone else's.

I think Russ takes the cake as having made the most self-destructive speech, he actually has made two of them and both are ultimate examples. Even Amanda doesn't come close to his level of self-destruction.

Susan Hawk's speech was the most venomous, acid, and deluded speech ever, and because of that and the heat that accompanied it, it is the most memorable IMO. The "Rat and Snake Speech". But she was speaking a disgruntled juror, not as a finalist, and so doesn't qualify as a 'speech to the jury'.

"RE: Best TC speech ever?"
Posted by zazzy on 05-18-10 at 07:51 PM
The thread title is "best TC speech ever". Both jurors and finalists make speeches at TC. Some jurors ask questions and some just pontificate (from what we are shown). Pontificating is a speech imo.

"RE: Best TC speech ever?"
Posted by kingfish on 05-19-10 at 11:01 AM
I see your point. Hawk's speech would probably win "most memorable (Best? Eh - I don't know about that) TC speeches ever". I'm feel sure that her speech will be remembered long after Sandra's is a faint memory.

However in the text it stated the condition as "best speech to the jury", which would rule Hawk's speech out.

"RE: Best TC speech ever?"
Posted by zazzy on 05-19-10 at 11:56 AM
Yep. I'm just teasing ya'.
"RE: Best TC speech ever?"
Posted by mysticjay on 05-18-10 at 09:52 AM
I agree. I wrote a blog post about Sandra's win yesteday, in which I said of the speech:

"While some question why she kept saying at the final tribal council that she tried over and over to get him out, it was obvious. She knew what the Heroes wanted to hear. They all love the game, and to have someone as horrible as Russell in the final three when the "good guys" could have, and should have, with Sandra's help, sent him packing weeks ago, was abhorrent to them. They already felt bad that they'd been duped by him. Here was someone that had offered to work with them that they had spurned, because they were naively dazzled by the evil that is Russell. Had they accepted her offer, the final three would have been three heroes.

Instead, it was King Russell and Queen Parvati, who had done all of them wrong. Russell the bully and Parvati his partner in everything. And Sandra, who despite having her alliance voted out and being turned down by the Heroes, still managed to make it to Day 39 on her own, without allies and without immunity."

http://spiral-gate.blogspot.com/2010/05/queen-sandra.html