THE RULES

As always, the first rule is: Put your vote IN THE SUBJECT HEADING! Just erase the bit where it says "Re: SurvivorBlows Tribe: Time To Vote: S17 Finale!" and replace with your vote.

This time, however, you don't want to vote for the boot, you want to vote for the finishing order of the Final Five. The order of your vote should be as follows: 5th/4th/3rd/2nd/1st(winner!).

Please use the following designations when casting your vote:

BC for Robert "Bob" Crowley
SK for Jessica "Sugar" Kiper
KH for Ken Hoang
MW for Matty Wittmore
SS for Susie Smith

For example, if you think Bob will finish in 5th place, Sugar will finish in 4th place, Ken will finish in 3rd place, Matty will finish in 2nd place, and Susie will win, your vote should read:

BC/SK/KH/MW/SS

Of course, the other standard rules of vote threads also apply to this vote thread.

Reply ONLY to this post! This is not a discussion thread.
But if you decide to change your vote then REPLY TO YOUR OWN POST!
No sig pics!
Have fun!

TIES! Some of these players could end up in a tie, depending on how it plays out. If you think there will be a tie and want to vote that way use an equal sign to designate the tied players. Using the above example, if you believe Ken and Matty will tie for second your vote should read:

BC/SK/KH=MW/SS

You don't have to vote on ties, you simply have that option.

As always, of course, anything else you want to vote on, who wins what challenge, if they'll bother with Exile, how long Jiffy's walk to read the final votes will take, these should go in your post. We are interested in what you have to say.

The DAWs!

Bob Crowley (Kota/Kota2/Kota3/Nobag)
Jessica "Sugar" Kiper (Kota/Fang2/Fang3/Nobag)
Ken Hoang (Fang/Fang2/Kota3/Nobag)
Matty Wittmore (Fang/Fang2/Fang3/Nobag)
Susie Smith (Fang/Kota2/Kota3/Nobag)

The Jury
Marcus Lehman (Kota/Kota2/Kota3)
Charlie Herschel (Kota/Kota2/Fang3/Nobag)
Randy Bailey (Fang/Kota2/Fang3/Nobag)
Corinne Kaplan (Kota/Kota2/Fang3/Nobag)
Crystal Cox (Fang/Fang2/Kota3/Nobag)

Eliminated
Michelle Chase (Fang)
Gillian Larson (Fang)
Paloma Soto-Castillo (Kota)
Jacquie Berg (Kota/Fang2)
Danny "GC" Brown (Fang/Fang2)
Kelly Czarnecki (Kota/Fang2)
Ace Gordon (Kota/Fang2)
Dan Kay (Fang/Kota2)

• KH/SS/SK/MW/BC,Estee, 09:05 AM, 12-12-08
• KH/SS/SK/MW/BC,Chez, 09:22 AM, 12-12-08
• KH/SS/MW/SK/BC,Prof_ Wagstaff, 09:31 AM, 12-12-08
• KH/BC/SS/MW/SK,Q, 09:39 AM, 12-12-08
• KH/BC/SK/SS/MW,vince3, 09:54 AM, 12-12-08
• KH/BC/SS/MW/SK,toddE, 12:17 PM, 12-12-08
• MW/BC/SS=SK/KH,Bebo, 12:36 PM, 12-12-08
  • KH/BC/SS/SK/MW,suzzee, 08:57 PM, 12-13-08
• SS/BC/MW/SK/KH,flipxcyd, 12:56 PM, 12-12-08
  • RE: KH/MW/SK/SS/BC,toad8098, 01:09 PM, 12-12-08
  • Vote Change: Matty/Bob/Susie/Sugar/Kenny,flipxcyd, 01:25 PM, 12-14-08
• MW/BC/KH=SS/SK, ie 'shuga',kingfish, 01:56 PM, 12-12-08
  • RE: MW/BC/KH/SS/SK, ie 'shuga',kingfish, 01:59 PM, 12-12-08
• KH/BC/MW/SS/SK,WhiteHot, 08:47 PM, 12-12-08
  • RE: KH/SS/BC/SK/MW,NedraSue, 09:51 PM, 12-12-08
    • RE: KH/BC/SS/MW/SK,ajmo, 10:15 AM, 12-13-08
      • RE: SK/BC/MW/SS/KH,mindy23, 10:28 AM, 12-13-08
• KH/SS/MW/BC/SK,whoami, 02:20 PM, 12-13-08
• MW/SS/SK/KH/BC,bkkpom, 03:18 PM, 12-13-08
• BC-SS-SK-KH-MW,Corvis, 03:19 PM, 12-13-08
  • RE: KH - BC - SS - MW - SK,flystorms, 03:43 PM, 12-13-08
• BC/KH/SS/SK/MW,Flowerpower, 04:59 PM, 12-13-08
• Ken/Bob/Susie/Sugar/Matty,Scarlett O Hara, 05:19 PM, 12-13-08
  • Change to: Bob/Sugar/Susie/Kenny/Matty,Scarlett O Hara, 02:04 PM, 12-14-08
• RE: SurvivorBlows Tribe, Time To Vote: S17 Finale!,guardian, 07:59 PM, 12-13-08
• KW/MW/SS/Sk/BC,dabo, 11:10 PM, 12-13-08
  • Correction: KH/MW/SS/SK/BC,dabo, 11:12 PM, 12-13-08
• BC/MW/SS/SK/KH,sylvester, 00:06 AM, 12-14-08
• Ken/Bob/Susie/Sugar/Matty,DedilyFlea, 05:41 AM, 12-14-08
• Ken,Bob,Susie,Sugar, Matty,true, 08:42 AM, 12-14-08
• Bob/Kenny/Sugar/Matty/Susie,Georjanna, 09:05 AM, 12-14-08
• Kenny/Bob/Susie/Sugar/Matty,citywitch, 09:52 AM, 12-14-08
• Ken/Bob/Susie/Sugar/ Matty,MJewel, 09:58 AM, 12-14-08
• KH/BC/SS/SK/MW ,michel, 12:49 PM, 12-14-08
• KH/BC/SS/SK/MW,Loree, 01:12 PM, 12-14-08
• KH/SS/JK/MW/BC,esquire, 04:20 PM, 12-14-08
• SS/MW/KH/SK/BC,Round Robin, 04:29 PM, 12-14-08
• Bob / Susie / Kenny / Sugar / Matty,Brownroach, 04:37 PM, 12-14-08
• RE: Bob, Sugar, Susie, Ken, Matty,ADKer, 05:04 PM, 12-14-08
• SS/BC/SK tie KH/MW,emydi, 05:23 PM, 12-14-08
• Bob/Kenny/Susie/Sugar/Matty,MDSkinner, 05:27 PM, 12-14-08
• Susie/Matty/Bob/Sugar/Kenny,EmeraldBrooch, 05:42 PM, 12-14-08
• Bob/Matty/Susie/Sugar/Kenny,Outfrontgirl, 06:31 PM, 12-14-08
• Kenny/Matty/Susie/Sugar/Bob,samboohoo, 06:42 PM, 12-14-08
• KH/SK/SS/MW/BobCrowley,kircon, 07:04 PM, 12-14-08
• kh/ss/mw/sk/bc,sugarbooger62, 07:37 PM, 12-14-08
• RE: SurvivorBlows Tribe, Time To Vote: S17 Finale!,Rahaim, 08:00 PM, 12-14-08
  • RE: SurvivorBlows Tribe, Time To Vote: S17 Finale!,Scarlett O Hara, 08:03 PM, 12-14-08
    • RE: SurvivorBlows Tribe, Time To Vote: S17 Finale!,Rahaim, 08:06 PM, 12-14-08
      • RE: SurvivorBlows Tribe, Time To Vote: S17 Finale!,Aussiemama, 08:18 PM, 12-14-08
• TALLY,Scarlett O Hara, 08:09 PM, 12-14-08
  • RE: TALLY,Rahaim, 08:13 PM, 12-14-08
• RE: SurvivorBlows Tribe, Time To Vote: S17 Finale!,Georjanna, 03:25 AM, 12-15-08
  • RE: SurvivorBlows Tribe, Time To Vote: S17 Finale!,dabo, 09:54 AM, 12-15-08
    • RE: SurvivorBlows Tribe, Time To Vote: S17 Finale!,Wacko Jacko, 12:00 PM, 12-15-08
      • RE: SurvivorBlows Tribe, Time To Vote: S17 Finale!,Snidget, 12:18 PM, 12-15-08
      • RE: SurvivorBlows Tribe, Time To Vote: S17 Finale!,Corvis, 12:23 PM, 12-15-08
      • RE: SurvivorBlows Tribe, Time To Vote: S17 Finale!,dabo, 01:56 PM, 12-15-08

I know, I know -- no bloody way. Let me dream for a while.

I am going to be a dreamer too.

Since everyone is dreamin' then I will too. Except I'm putting Sugar in second place.

*crosses fingers*

If you can dream then so can I. I think the perfect end to this season will be Corrine's most hated winning the vote at the end. I did say I was dreaming.

At least one of us has to try to get it right.

I don't usually vote here, and like you guys,these are my hopes more than my expectations.

I really think Matty will win, but I'm voting for Sugar because Matty would just win by luck and Sugar has been a real player

I would love for Bob to win, but I'm going to be different.

Matty 5th - Bob wins IC, gives Kenny the necklace since he's in danger. Everyone's scrambling, so the vote ends up 2 for Matty, 2 for Bob and Sugar votes for Susie. On the revote, Sugar votes out Matty instead of Bob.

Bob 4th - I hate this, but it would definitely lead to the shock referred to at F4 in the misdirection clue. I want Bob to win, but just might have to be content with him getting $100k from the viewer vote.

Susie's told us she's playing for third, and Sugar told us earlier in the game that she'd be satisfied finishing second to Kenny (before she realized what he was truly like). Jeff tells us that Kenny would do well with the right people in the finals, and against these two, he's a no brainer. Even the folks who hate him would prefer he win over Susie or Sugar, so it may be a landslide.

What I'd really like is for the shock at F4 to be that Bob doesn't have immunity and still makes it to F3. Then Bob would easily dominate the vote and win. As Jeff told us in his initial comments, there's probably nobody better equipped for this game.

Just make Kenny go F5 since he's still scurrying around. I would love to see Bob win but if he doesn't then get the fan vote so he can open up "Bob's Fake Immunity Necklace Emporium"

Haven't a clue

wishful thinking i guess.

Still no clue

Ken wants Matty out, Susie will go along, and Bob will too just because it's someone besides him.

Then they have to get Bob, too dangerous to not bump him here. If he doesn't get immunity.

After that, (if there is anouther IC), Ken loses, either the jury or the girls dumps him next, and between Sugar and Susie, Sugar takes home the sugar with votes from Marcus, Charlie, Crystal, Bob, Matty. Maybe Ken.

Corrine and Randy will once again be on the losing side. As is appropriate.

Changed to take out tie.

Wishful thinking although I don't necessarily think Sugar is a lock over Susie. I'd be fine with either, as it would be the ultimate triumph over that beast Corinne.

Susie votes; Crystal, Kenny, Corinne, Randy
Sugar votes; Bob, Charlie, Marcus

Matty could go either way, depending on who wins final immunity.

I can dream too. Anybody but Bob for a win and Im happy.

This is what I want to see...so he can pay for his wedding....but then again, SK got married a couple weeks ago?

I not only think Sugar will win, I want her to win and she deserves to win. She is smart and listens to everyone. That is why she flip-flops so much. I agree that the good guys should win in the end which is why I put Matty second. Bob is a good guy but I think the second he finally loses an IC that'll be the end of him.

LAST EDITED ON 12-14-08 AT 07:01 PM (EST)

Just really guessing here, but I want Sugar to win, too. She's played the best game so far, without bragging and being too psycho about it, (enter Kenny). Love Bob, but he wouldn't be where he is without Sugar. Almost NO ONE would be where they are without Sugar. Face it.

ETA: OOPS, I did it backwards........oh well.

Sugar is the winner as far as I am concerned.

LAST EDITED ON 12-13-08 AT 03:24 PM (EST)

My prediction bases only on what I think Jeff said somewhere some time ago. I don't even remember the exact quote but I think he said something to the effect of "the audience will be satisfied with the outcome."

For Matty, he is seen as whiney and even dumb in the last episode (Sugar: "Let me do the thinking!") Susie: I don't have any particular reason other than I've seen enough of her. Sugar: she said she would be happy being second to Kenny. I think she'd be just as happy being third to Kenny and Bob. Some will be satisfied if she wins, but I think too many people still remember the evil laugh at Randy's boot. Kenny: I've been rooting for him from the start. Yes, I know he's slimy and all, but I think he definitely deserves to be where he is. His win won't be a satisfying outcome for all, though. Bob: what can I say? The guy is perfect!

Most probably just wishful thinking.

I think they're going to vote Bob or Kenny out next as they are immunity threats. Plus Matty and Susie and Ken all know that they'll lose if they go against him in the Final. Kenny wins immunity so Bob goes. Kenny then manipulates Sugar as he is so good at and Sugar is so vulnerable to. Matty wins immunity. Kenny manipulation of Sugar causes her to change her vote and force a tie between Susie and Kenny at Tribal Council. Susie loses the tiebreaker and goes home. At the Final Three they find out there is one more immunity challenge! Damn! Kenny wins it and takes Matty to the Finals to make up for betraying him.

Matty wins in a surprisingly close vote.

Marcus - Matty
Charlie - Matty
Randy - Kenny
Corinne - Kenny
Bob - Kenny
Susie - Matty
Sugar - Matty

Sugar has been the only "Celebrity Video" at the bottom of the CBS.com page all season. As much as I'd love to see Bob win, something happens and he leaves. Susie wants top 3, that's all she'll get. Matty pulls an "Amanda" leaving Sugar the underestimated winner that Corinne will hate seeing. I can't wait to see her reaction.

LAST EDITED ON 12-13-08 AT 05:02 PM (EST)

At this point who knows how this will turn out. I am basing my vote primarily on the how I have interpreted the editing. I think that Bob is most likely to win the F5 challenge. However, I think at the TC, he is going to hand his IN over to someone else, either Kenny or Sugar. Because of this, he will be out. Then I think Kenny will be booted, leaving Sugar/Susie/Matty. Susie has said that she just wants to make the F3, she does. Sugar vs. Matty, Sugar is the deserving player, but will not win because she burned her bridges that are now sitting in judgement, the jury members. Matty will win S17...I think!

Great season with the editing! Great job keeping us on our toes, I only hope they continue the job next season!

Matty is our winner!!!!

The heck with initials!

After all, a woman is entitled to change her mind!

Scarlett

LAST EDITED ON 12-13-08 AT 08:01 PM (EST)

KH/BC/SS/SK/MW

I don't think that Matty will have any problem at all winning against Susie or Sugar. Marcus, Randy, Corinne and Charlie have no use for Susie after she flipped the game for their alliance. Randy and Corinne have voiced their opinion of Sugar several times, and Crystal could be pissed at Sugar for flipping on her. Matty has played a good game, and has been fairly social with the members of Kota. And then again, maybe I'm just another poster voting on wishful thinking. lol

of fer crud

I think Crystal's quote about a man winning is true.

Whichever one of Bob & Kenny doesn't have the IN at 5 is going to be booted, and I'm afraid that challenge looks tailor made for Kenny the rat. I'm afraid Matty goes at F4 & I think Susie will turn on him to get her final 3 spot. The nasty onions won't let Sugar win.

I hope I'm wrong!!!

-Cat

Bob has to outlast Ken from Ken's comments all season. At least I hope so.

The initials confuse me.

Ken goes out first because Bob has immuinity. It could be in a tiebreaker between Ken and Matty, but in the end Ken's time as self proclaimed puppet master is over before the finals.

Bob goes as soon as he loses a challenge. As much as Sugar loves the "good guys" she's not a complete idiot. Bob has way too many friends on the jury. If Bob manages to pull off an immunity run to the finals, he wins easily.

Useless Susie gets slammed by the jury and finishes in third. This is where I'm thankful for the final 3 vs. final 2 set up. Otherwise, we'd have Susie in a lame final 2 clobbering.

It's between Sugar and Matty in the end. The underdog Matty vs. the underestimated Sugar. I feel Sugar is more deserving, but in the end it's the bitter jurors who decide, and Matty was just good enough to justify Sugar getting screwed. As usual, depending on the final speeches, it could go either way. I'd be happy if anyone but Susie wins. Even Kenny.

Dancing with the Stars that brought me ...

this seems to be the most logical sequence, but i don't think i've gotten a vote right yet this season!

wishful thinking would reverse the final 2 and have Sugar as our winner

Ken/Bob/Susie/Sugar/ Matty

I think Matty will win it.

Matty is the "Good Guy" that wins this seasons.

Not really the way I want it to turn out. But I doubt Bob can win without winning both II in a row on the way to F3. I think Bob would win the vote in a F3. And that is why Susie and Matty will not let him get there. Sugar is not enough to save Bob. I truly believe Kenny goes out at F5. Then Bob is ganged up on at F4. The jury doesn't remember Susie is there and doesn't really like Sugar. Matty wins by default.

Because I say so

And I'll probably be full of $hit again, just like I have all season.

LAST EDITED ON 12-14-08 AT 04:57 PM (EST)

Like True, I find the initials too confusing

I was going to leave this blank, but what the heck -- I'll speculate...

Bob goes first when Kenny wins immunity at F5
Susie does something insane and gets axed at F4 (Matty wins immunity)
Sugar wins the F3 immunity and takes Matty to the Final 2
Matty wins

I don't know why so many people think Susie will be in the Final 3. I feel absolutely certain she won't be. I also feel certain that Sugar is one of the finalists eligible for jury votes.

But...I've been more wrong than right this season

Bob keeps his word and sends Kenny into Final 4. Sugar sacrifices herself to save Matty. Susie finishes third to set up good (Matty) vs. evil (Kenny) in the final.

Sugar sits in btw good and evil

3-2-2 vote

Marcus=Sugar
Charlie=Matty
Randy=Matty
Corrine = Kenny
Crystal = Kenny
Susie= Matty
Bob= Sugar

Totally a shot in the dark at this point for me.

This is what would be most interesting to me.

Going off of some clue about Susie going first in an other thread - I also believe this episode will be all over the place; Sugar changes her mind in an instant, Bob has a power over Sugar she might not know about, and with Kenny on the outskirts, he will play swing vote to gain jury favor and advance himself further.

Jeff constantly says "If Kenny doesn't get overconfident" "A little humility" Losing power in the game is his humility, now he's not a threat, and Bob is in the spotlight. But Bob always has a trick up his sleeve.

Is there a car in this season? Did I not get the memo?

LAST EDITED ON 12-14-08 AT 06:45 PM (EST)

alt Kenny/Bob/Susie/Sugar/Matty

I think it's possible that Kenny wins. After all, Jeff is already putting a pre-correction to his "you can't win" assertion that he told Kenny pre-show. Why is he doing all this preamble to eating crow if it turns out Kenny is F5?

If Bob is F3, the choice the jury faces is negligible. Almost the same with Matty. The only way Kenny wins is sitting with the right two, Susie who broke up the Onions' game and Sugar who Corinne and Randy hate. We've also been shown that Kenny is thinking of jury votes, something we've not really heard talked of with any other player.

It would be amazing if the F3 happened to be front and center in the pre-game press photo.

An unexpected development at the end would be if Susie flips against Matty at the F4 vote because even though he's her closest ally she can't win against him. Susie is all about winning. I disagree that she wants third place. She wanted a F3 guarantee so she could go to the END, meaning that is the only way you have a shot to WIN. So I think she would absolutely baclstab if she had the option to break the tie, try to go to the end with the most hated two.

ed to add that re-reading the other votes, I see sylvester also pegs Susie to flip. Her whole edit is about being not loyal and a flipper-flopper.

"Better to reign in Hell with the kool kids than to make nice in Heaven with mutants." I think Corinne said that.

I picked the Skins today too. I'm a sucker to vote with my heart.

I've only been right a couple of times, this season.

Both SOTS's I did, I predicted Susie & Bob to be booted.
Now look at them.

See you next season!!!

Thanks Dabo for hosting this voting thread for us.

kh/ss/mw/sk/bc

will the show air at 8PM eastern tonight?

No, it will start late due to football. My guess is it'll start around 8:30 pm. Watch out for a late start.

Thank you Scarlett, will it air on time in Canada?

It is 8:17pm and it has not started in Canada either.....and we do not have the football to blame!!!!

Winner's Tally:

Bob- 12 votes
Sugar- 7 votes
Matty- 17 votes
Kenny- 7 votes
Susie- 1 Vote

Looks like this Board is leaning towards Matty for the win.

My vote goes to BoB, with Sugar and MAtty in the final 3

CONGRATULATIONS!
TOAD

Big Congrats, toad8098. Way to nail the finish order with wishful thinking!

LAST EDITED ON 12-15-08 AT 12:01 PM (EST)

WOW! I expected better out of you spoilers. You guys are losing it.

Well I don't think we got a solid boot order spoiler/leaker this year.

Really doesn't take much effort to get it right when it is handed to you before the season even starts.

Next time, why don't you help instead of criticizing after the fact?

Hey, it only took them 7 1/2 years to figure out how to throw us off.

But for you serious Matty and Susie fans, they totally didn't have the edit.