I kno Thurs, 9 blah blah blah. But does anyone have any idea what thursday at 9?

Dum da dum dum. . . . .

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The abc primetime lineup says it premieres Sept. 17th and 19th

thanks a bunch!

From ABC's press release, they defintely seem to be giving it a push (no pun intended)

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The ABC fall primetime premiere dates and additional schedule highlights are as follows (all times shown are Eastern):

Monday, September 9 (as previously announced)

8:00-8:30 p.m.: "The Drew Carey Show" (Season Premiere)
8:30-9:00 p.m.: "Whose Line is it Anyway?" (Season Premiere) 9:00-11:00 p.m. : "Monday Night Football" (Season Premiere)

Tuesday, September 17

8:00-8:30 p.m.: "8 Simple Rules..." (Series Premiere)
8:30-9:00 p.m.: "Life with Bonnie" (Series Preview; Special Timeslot)
9:00-10:00 p.m. : "Push, Nevada" (Series Preview; Special Timeslot)

Thursday, September 19

8:00-9:00 p.m.: "Push, Nevada" (Pilot Episode Rebroadcast)
9:00-10:00 p.m. : "Push, Nevada" (Regular Time Period Premiere; Second Episode

Tuesday, September 24

8:00-8:30 p.m.: "8 Simple Rules..."
8:30-9:00 p.m.: "Life with Bonnie" (Special Timeslot)
9:00-10:00 p.m.: "NYPD Blue" Retrospective (Title TBD)
10:00-11:00 p.m.: "NYPD Blue" (Season Premiere; 200th Episode)

Wednesday, September 25

8:00-9:00 p.m.: "My Wife and Kids" (One-Hour Season Premiere)
9:00-10:00 p.m.: "The Bachelor" (Season Premiere) 1
0:00-11:00 p.m.: "MDs" (Series Premiere)

Thursday, September 26

8:00-9:00 p.m.: "Push, Nevada" (Second Episode Rebroadcast)
9:00-10:00 p.m.: "Push, Nevada" (Third Episode Original Broadcast)

Friday, September 27

8:00-9:00 p.m.: "America's Funniest Home Videos" (Season Premiere)
9:00-10:00 p.m. : "That Was Then" (Series Premiere)

Saturday, September 28

8:00-11:00 p.m.: "ABC Big Picture Show" -- movie title TBD (Season Premiere)

Sunday, September 29

7:00-9:00 p.m.: "The Wonderful World of Disney" - "Toy Story 2" (Season Premiere)
9:00-10:00 p.m. : "Alias" (Season Premiere)
10:00-11:00 p.m.: "The Practice" (Season Premiere)

Tuesday, October 1

8:00-8:30 p.m.: "8 Simple Rules..."
8:30-9:00 p.m.: "According to Jim" (Season Premiere)
9:00-9:30 p.m.: "Life with Bonnie" (Regular Time Period Premiere)
9:30-10:00 p.m.: "Less Than Perfect" (Series Premiere)

Wednesday, October 2

8:00-8:30 p.m.: "My Wife and Kids"
8:30-9:00 p.m.: "George Lopez" (Season Premiere)

Thursday, October 3

8:00-9:00 p.m.: "Push, Nevada" (Third Episode Rebroadcast)
9:00-10:00 p.m.: "Push, Nevada" (Fourth Episode Original Broadcast)

Thursday, October 10

8:00-9:00 p.m.: "Dinotopia" (Series Premiere)
9:00-10:00 p.m.: "Push, Nevada" (Fifth Episode)

thanks again!

Thanks so much Webby for this list. I don't have a regular subscriptions to any TV mags.

I think that it is awesome that Push, Nevada will be immediatly following Survivor Thailand 5.

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>Tuesday, September 17
>
>9:00-10:00 p.m. : "Push, Nevada" (Series
>Preview; Special Timeslot)
>
>Thursday, September 19
>
>8:00-9:00 p.m.: "Push, Nevada" (Pilot Episode
>Rebroadcast)
>9:00-10:00 p.m. : "Push, Nevada" (Regular
>Time Period Premiere; Second Episode
>
>
>Thursday, September 26
>
>8:00-9:00 p.m.: "Push, Nevada" (Second Episode
>Rebroadcast)
>9:00-10:00 p.m.: "Push, Nevada" (Third Episode
>Original Broadcast)
>
>
>Thursday, October 3
>
>8:00-9:00 p.m.: "Push, Nevada" (Third Episode
>Rebroadcast)
>9:00-10:00 p.m.: "Push, Nevada" (Fourth Episode
>Original Broadcast)
>
>Thursday, October 10
>
>
>9:00-10:00 p.m.: "Push, Nevada" (Fifth Episode)
>
>

Quick question: Do we have a starting date for Survivor? Judging by this though, it sounds like it's gonna be October 10. In the meantime though, it's a great setup, they're not going up against Survivor (when it comes back), but following it, which is good for those of us who want to follow both but are too lazy to set VCRs. I also love the Episode rebroadcasts they're working in for the first few weeks. There've been a lot of shows (like Murder in Small Town X) that I missed out on the first couple episodes, so I didn't bother with it later. This'll give people a chance to get into it.

Go ABC! Now just give us the Mole 3!

The Artist Formerly Known As DarkLotus

LAST EDITED ON 08-08-02 AT 01:12 PM (EST)

Survivor is due to start on September 19th at 8pm.

http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/DCForumID2/2897.shtml

a week before the Friends Season Premier.

Edited to add: Two hundred DAW's! I feel so proud.

The Anti-Executee Winner & Shameless Self Promoter

Anyone else notice that the Tuesday premiere is in The Mole's timeslot?

Apaprently ABC is going to rebroadcast episodes (aka repeats) of USA's new 'Monk' series on Tuesday's at 9PM between now and 9/17 (how wierd is that -- first USA airs rebroadcasts on NBC's 'Law & Order SUV' -- at least that made SOME sense -- now ABC is making a big deal out of running 'Monk' repeats for a month.) That's even stranger than NBC's 4 episode "She Spies" deal.

The wierd this is that Bonnie Hunt's show is supposed to have that Tuesday 9PM timeslot -- yet when her show premieres on 9/17, it will be a 8:30PM so that PUSH can use the slot, and then the following week, it will once again be at 8:30PM so that some lame "retrospective" episode of NYPD Blue can air.

Bonnie can't be very happy... first they give her the difficult Tuesday 9PM timeslot (where Frasier, Smallville, 24 all air) but then they bump her first two episodes into the 8:30PM timeslot with some new show called '8 Simple Rules' as a poor lead-in)

-SB

I was just reading an article about ABC's programming (or lack thereof) today. They are "hiring" HBO to look for new shows for them...which makes sense, I guess, since HBO is the only one with "quality" programming these days. (Of course, The Mole came from Europe.)

Also mentioned in the article, if you didn't already know, is that DisneyABC (yes, I made that one word) had been primarily getting all of their shows out from Touchstone (a mouse division). The author also stated that the low quality of the programming was pretty much due to lack of competition from outside producers.

I am not surprised though about the programming chaos. They all have their own distorted agendas, always have, and ya gotta kinda wonder what universe they live in. I could go off on another discussion about vcr's and nielsen ratings...but I won't bore you.

But, I will give ABC kudos on one aspect: the interaction with the internet. With The Mole and Alias, they seem to realize that enough of their audience (however low it might be) actually own computers too. Has anyone else noticed any internet connections with other shows?

Bonnie can't be very happy... first they give her the difficult Tuesday 9PM timeslot (where Frasier, Smallville, 24 all air) but then they bump her first two episodes into the 8:30PM timeslot with some new show called '8 Simple Rules' as
a poor lead-in)

Maybe that will work out in her favor. I don't recall any decent shows on at 8:30 Tuesday that would be a lot of competition.

all evil is seductive and Ms. Bebo is most certaintly the most evil of them all !!!!! -katem

<<From ABC's press release, they defintely seem to be giving it a push>>

Yeah, right into the abyss of horrible ratings.

This is exactly why ABC is the lowest rated network. Allow me to play network executive for a moment, and I'll explain.

Everytime they get a good "new" idea, they have to sabotage it by trying to conquer the titans of TV. They might have learned a thing or two from the success of "CSI", the show they're trying to unseat.

When "CSI" started, it ran on Friday, where a lot of new shows get their start. Granted, most fall by the wayside, but it's a good place to cut your teeth, because there's no bohemoth. "CSI" got a groundswell of support, then CBS decided to move it to Thursday after their lead dog "Survivor", and against shows with which it has very little in common ("Will & Grace" and "Whose Line Is It Anyway?" if memory serves).

Another, and perhaps better, option would have been to run it in "The Mole"'s old slot. They're doing it for the premiere, so why not keep it there? It would be up against "Frasier", which is not the juggernaut it once was, and a new show--"Hidden Hills". More importantly, it wouldn't have the same core audience.

So what does ABC do instead? They premiere it in a good time slot, then immediately move it to Thursday one week before "CSI" premieres. For those who miss the premiere, they're going to rebroadcast it vs. the season premiere of the most successful show in the genre, "Survivor".

Then, they're going to do the same "rebroadcast - new episode" format for 2 more weeks. Do these people get that they are not making things easy for their target audience? I would say that the vast majority of people who would be interested in this show are either fans of "Survivor" or "CSI"...or BOTH. And that's not even factoring in the "F" word.

Unfortunately, ABC has a track record of doing this sort of thing. "Murder One" had a similarly inventive premise, and ABC in its wisdom decided to run it up against "ER", which was the highest rated show on TV at the time it premiered. As with "Push", "Murder One" was premiered in a different time slot, then moved after 1 or 2 episodes to Thursdays at 10pm vs. "ER". It got clobbered. Not because it was an inferior show, at least not IMO, but because 1 or 2 shows are not enough to get a fan base.

I'm afraid the same is going to happen to "Push", which has a very similar structure to "Murder One". Both are the kind of show that you need to see from the beginning, and both have storylines that not only build off of the previous week, but rely on the viewer having seen the previous week. In a nutshell, they are not shows that you can pick up in the middle very easily.

Hopefully I'm wrong. Maybe "Push" will be the best show ever and succeed despite ABC's idiocy.

Fester

Fester, hopefully ABC realizes that it's performance versus CSI is not indicative of it's possible audience, I don't think you follow the Mole, so you probably missed my below post:

http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/DCForumID11/765.shtml#5

"ABC Entertainment Television Group Chairman Lloyd Braun told Affleck the network is not expecting "Push, Nevada" to finish first or even second in the ratings for that time period. "We just told them to produce a show of great quality in which you can maintain or grow a loyal audience," Braun said. "

And hopefully the fact that LivePlanet (the producers of the show) have basically sold out to Disney should help it's chances of staying on the air:

http://www.reuters.com/news_article.jhtml;jsessionid=OHPKTWN0K5JXECRBAELCFFA?type=search&StoryID=1290147

Ben Affleck and Matt Damon have secured a two-year film production deal at Disney for their Live Planet production company.

Initially formed to hatch reality shows, the company is now refocusing to use Disney as a launch pad for features.

"We formed Live Planet with the idea of focusing our efforts on integrated media projects," said Chris Moore, a partner in the company along with the acting duo and Sean Bailey. "We raised independent money and wanted to stay independent and sell projects to the most interested parties. We found that integrated properties are hard to do and that they can take a very long time."

...is it that last line just screaming for a "gee, you think?" response??? Frankly it sounds like the money flow is being cut of to Liveplanet from it's VC investors just as those same VC's did with all their other dead dotcom's. (For those not aware, Liveplanet used to make a big deal about how the $15mil they raised to get started had all come from Silicon Valley VC firms.)

-SB

Michael Eisner has basically decided that ABC will be an in-house network for Disney. EVERY new show EXCEPT "Mole 2" that aired on Disney last year came from Touchstone Television, Disney's TV production arm. That appears to be why "Mole 2" got such a doomed time slot to start out.

But remember ... even though Disney owned it ... "Bob Patterson" died a very public and grizly death in a good time slot. In other words, since ALL the network's shows are Disney-produced, "Push, Nevada" won't get favored at the expense of another, more promising show. Anyway, Disney might even like to see the show fail ... if it increases the chances that Damon or Affleck will have to do appearances on the next show they produce for ABC.

From where we sit, we have no idea what subcurrents are swirling around this show. All we can say for sure is that at ABC, quality takes a back seat to in-house politics.

This is like deja vu! Can't ABC ever learn the basics! My gawd, here they have a fanatic Mole following on the Tue. night slot, and like your said Fester, they whore it around different days & times until the general viewing public is too fed up to even watch.

Dismal outlook for an otherwise promising new show.

Regards,

I can't understand their thinking at all. They screwed up the launch of THE MOLE and now they are doing it again with PUSH. Why debut a new show on a different night than it will be on? It is hard enough for people to follow a schedule without mixing them up from the beginning. Then they put it opposite popular shows with the same audience they are after.

According to today's TV schedule (from both the newspaper and TV Guide), episode 2 of Push will NOT be re-broadcast today. I haven't been able to find any mention of this scheduling change.

Rather irritating, I must say. If you have a show where you MUST watch each episode, in order, not having each show re-broadcast is bad, especially when you've announced that you will do so.

Over the summer, ABC tried rebroadcasting episodes of USA Network's "Monk". I don't think the folks at the alphabet network were expecting the ratings to be as high as they were. ABC isn't used to having too many successful shows.

So the network has chosen to continue milking that ratings cow, instead of taking risks that rebroadcasting Push would result in low ratings.