It's just a game. Though I like Kaysar - things are better as they stand without bending the rules.

Oh goody! Yet ANOTHER petition to send to CBS. I'm sure they will get right on it.

C'mon folks - it's a tv show, not life itself.

Everyone is entitled to my opinion.

Once again I agree with you okaychatt. It is a tv show and we are the ones that watch, if we don't like things we can always turn the channel. But I like to watch all of the wheeling and dealing going on just to stay in the house. Or I should say backstabbing and lying.

I mean I love love love Kaysar but I have to agree it is a game. It's really not the deep America!

here is the petition to keep him immune for one week.

http://www.petitiononline.com/GOKAYSAR/petition.html

Kaysar had his second chance, and he blew it, on his own, without help. He doesn't deserve another one.

Amen Brother Boner!!

- Diced!
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Did he ever (blow it)! And here I thought Howie made a super stupid move when he was HOH (but that is Howie for you), but Kaysar's decision to hand the HOH to Jenn left me utterly speechless. Maybe he just had to go to the bathroom..... Iam still shaking my head over this one.

TOO LATE..it is over and I HATE CBS and JEN!

I love Kaysar and was elated to see him go back into the house but I so wanted to grab him by the shoulders and shake the crap out of him when he handed HOH over to Jenn! Saying this really sucks for me but he did seal his own fate when he chose to give away the HOH, he shouldn't have trusted everyone's word instead he should have won and then figured out what was going on in the house after. Personally, seeing that everyone was so desperate to convince him he was safe and James was not was a clue in on their deceit considering the fact that it shouldn't have mattered if Kaysar won because he wanted the same as they did. I hope Kaysar stays in the house over Janelle because I think she has been carried too far even Howie has come up with more plans than she has.

Maybe one day there will be a Big Brother All Star and he will be on that, I wish CBS would pursue that, theres alot of past guests I would like to see on it

and as for Kaysar, what makes him different and loved by most...is he is a good guy, and an honest guy...but same with survivor, those people never win in the end

Kaysar is most definitely NOT, I repeat NOT and honest guy. Maybe you missed the first couple weeks, but the agreement between Eric and Kaysar was that Eric would keep Kaysar safe, and if Kaysar had HoH next, he would keep Eric safe. Eric held up his end of the bargain. Kaysar did not. He back doored Eric onto the chopping block. Now I'm not one of those morons that thinks lying should never be part of the game, but don't say someone is honest when they lie through their teeth all the time. I'm going to take this opportunity to vent.
To all you petition writers: Kaysar is a dishonest prick. I don't know why you all wanted him back in the house. Eric was at least honest. Kaysar has taught his team not only to be competitive, but to HATE the Friendship. Janelle, who has not had any interaction with Jen in the past, all of a sudden started saying Jen was the biggest b**** in the house. Where did that come from? So she's a b**** because she won HoH and nominated Janelle's friend? Howie is prancing around insulting April's family. HER FAMILY!!!!! Her family is not there in the house. Leave them out of it. There's no need for Howie to act like that, and I'm glad Rachel finally got the balls to say something to him. I used to like Howie, but he's shown that he's an a**hole deep down. Why is this so vicious? The Friendship has done NOTHING to deserve this treatment. This whole thing all started because Kaysar lied to Eric's face and back doored him. And now the Soveriegn 3 acts like they're the victims. I have never seen such childish behavior in my life (with the exception of the 2004 Election). I'm glad Beau won HoH. Maybe he'll back door Janelle.
Bottom line: To all you people whining about Kaysar being sent right back out, grow up. Do something constructive with your time instead of dogging CBS with your stupid, baseless complaints. Kaysar gave it up, end of story. Why does everyone think Kaysar is the greatest thing since sliced bread? He had a second chance and he blew it.

Please do not presume to advise other members of this message board on how to spend their time or to 'grow up'. Keep your marks directed towards the show or the contestants.

Thank you.

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Sheesh, now I feel like the bad guy... but ...it sounds like you've only watch the edited TV program.
So, just to keep you properly informed, the First "alliance" in the house was between Kaysar, Eric, Michael and James. They all agreed to keep each other safe.
However it was Eric who first broke his word by nominating Michael. Although Eric did not know at the time that Kaysar and Michael were partners or that he was given false info by non-alliancemates, he still targetted one of his own alliance. On heresay no less.

Michael's eviction was actually put into motion by Jennifer. She went from HG to HG and suggested that Michael was being too aggresive with her. Which was a complete lie. Since she was often in the company of Michael flirting with him and twirling his hair and such, then when her advances weren't met she made up the "Sexual Predator" slant. Then and only then did Eric blow it all out of proportion and target his own alliance partner. So as far as "HonestEric" or Janelle's feelings towards Jenn are concerned, Eric is a liar, broke the first promise and should not be put above anyone in the game. AND Jenn is the bitch and deserved every last drop of vitriol from Janelle.(And America!)

Now as far as Howie and April are concerned. Howie did go off the deep end, a little. But only because he knew he could emotionally sabotage Aprils game.
Yes, it hurts that family members had to be included, however they all signed contracts too, or we wouldn't have seen any of Howies behavior towards April on the show at all.
Not that she deserved it, but she and her family were fully warned and prepared for their names to be mentioned, even disparingly. Specially, when April talks about her "Fat Husband"(yes. from her mouth.) and Pepperoni incessantly.
All that aside, the only reason why Howie started in on April in the first place is because April lied to the fiendsheep about Howie and Rachel starting the initial "Ivette-BackDoor" approach.
When in actuality, it was her and Jennifers idea to go to H&R with the deal.
Howie and Rachel found out that April had spread that lie, so he attacked her. Even though the editing of the show would suggest that it came out of nowhere (or as a result of Maggies HOH stint) it indeed had merit.

I'm quite aware of the fact that most of America is unaware as to why Howie flipped out or Janelle screamed "pack your bags bitches".
But if you had seen any of the live feeds or read the transcripts you would understand why there are a lot of people siding with the Jedi. And not the fiendsheep.

Because truthfully and I'm serious about this. The only real players who have played with honesty and integrity are Rachel, Janelle, Howie and Kaysar. Plus Michael and Ashlea. (Maybe Maggie too, but she's surrounded by lying, coniving sheep who do everything in their power to sway her decisions. She's a victim of the Maggots. And now the Maggots attraction to James.)

On a personal note...It's best not make political jokes or personal attacks part of your repitoire as they often start controversy.

Yes, I do only watch the edited TV program. Partially because I didn't feel 4 cameras really would give me all that much information, and partially because I don't have the time to devote to watching it that often.
That aside, I have some things to say in response to your post. First, I do still like Eric, but I will acknowledge that he did break his initial alliance, although I seem to remember that the alliances made during the first episode were just tentative and temporary. I think Eric did the house a favor by getting rid of Michael, and he did honor his alliance with Kaysar. I guess I can't really blame Kaysar for back dooring Eric, since Eric took out his partner.
As far as Jen goes, I remember the episode when the whole horny-aggressive Micahel thing got started, and I do remember seeing him being a bit to eager with the ladies, because they were trying to get away from him, and it wasn't just Jen. So it wasn't just Jen telling a big lie, although it may have helped. As far as your comment about Ashlea playing the game honestly, she didn't get far enough in the game for us to tell whether she was honest or not, although I think Janelle would have brought her down to her level later in the game.
Which brings me to my next comment. It regards Janelle. Janelle, the convicted criminal. Doesn't CBS do background checks during the casting process? I wouldn't think they'd want someone in the house who was convicted of shoplifting and DWI. I laughed when you said Janelle was honest. The biotch broke up with her long term partner on National TV because she was just so infatuated with Michael the womanizer. If that is not a clue to Janelle's pathetically slutty personality, I don't know what is.
On to Howie. Howie is just plain DUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMBBBBBBBBB.
You know, when April talks about her family, even seemingly negatively, it's ok. It's her family and she has to deal with it when she gets home (if anyone there even cares....I'm sure Pepperoni doesn't). However, Howie was doing it to be hurtful. Regardless of signed papers by contestants' families, that is wrong. April, at least in the edited portions, hasn't attacked his family, and she didn't start commenting on his bum finger until he started in on her family.
So that rules Howie out as far as integrity. Just to illustrate my point, when I watched Survivor All Stars, I didn't care about anything Boston Rob did until he called Tom's son a dumbass. That was just wrong, and it's the same thing here. Sorry, had to use Survivor to illustrate my point. This is the first summer I've watched BB.
I guess that leaves Rachel, Beau, Maggie, and Sarah alone in the honest and with integrity category. I'll recap each houseguest as far as reason for being honest or not, in boot order so far:
Ashlea: Wasn't here that long, can't say for sure if she was good or bad, but since she was partners with convicted criminal Janelle, BAD.
Michael: From what I saw on TV, he was a womanizer, and it wasn't just with Jen. He was just plain too aggressive, even after the women had told him to back off. BAD
Eric: Broke his alliance with Michael (although not sure how solid or long lasting that alliance was supposed to be in the first place). Not honest, but I liked him anyway.
Kaysar: Broke his alliance with Eric, after Eric kept him safe when he was HoH. Can't really blame him because Michael was his partner. But still dishonest. And Kaysar really did teach his "Soveriegn 6" (dumb name lol) to hate the Friendship. BAD
Sarah: James' tool. Just a puppy following James. She was OK. Bit of a crybaby though.
Kaysar again: Same deal, only this time he was stupid enough to take his hand off the buzzer and trust Jen.
Jen: DISHONEST. Maybe she did lie about Michael...didn't see the live feed. But I know she snuck into Rachel's HoH bathroom and lock Rachel out. Lied to Kaysar, which I didn't mind, but it wasn't honest, and that's what we're talking about.
Now, the ones remaining:
Beau: I have not seen anything bad from him on TV, so I label him as HONEST. Although he can't hold his liquor worth a damn, as has absolutely no self control when drinking.
Ivette: TROUBLEMAKER, but that has been her plan from the beginning. She is right to ally herself with James, because he has a great shot now, and from what I've seen on TV, she's a whiz with creatively crafted PB+J. I like Ivette though, cuz she's playing a great game.
April: Has been trying to get Ivette off and break the Friendship. DISHONEST, but didn't deserve Howie's abuse.
Maggie: HONEST. That's all there is to say. Her partner got axed and she's trying for revenge. It's all good
HOWIE: No sense of morals. Proven by his cruel attacks on April's family. Other than that he's just dumb. I label him as having NO INTEGRITY.
Rachel: Cool as hell. Got the balls to step up to Howie. She's GOOD. Good competitor.
Janelle: Convicted shoplifter and drunk driver. Probably shouldn't have been cast at all if CBS actually does background checks. DISHONEST, although she does have a sharp mind. I'll give her that. But I dislike the fact that any female that isn't on her side is automatically a ##### to her. Just listen to her confessionals.
James: Finally, the one who will probably make it to the final four at least. He pissed Kaysar's team off by trying to break them up, and at the same time he swore on the Bible to Ivette and broke that promise too. DISHONEST!!! But, redeemed himself later when he threw the HoH competition, saying he didn't want to win just to get revenge, and how he was above that. He's a good guy, but he hasn't played honestly. Now that he's not pissing anyone off, he might just fly under the radar for a while, as Ivette helps keep him safe.

Whew, that was a lot of typing. Please let me know if I have facts wrong, as I don't watch the live feeds. But I don't believe the edited show is really misleading me.

One more topic before I ask a question. I want to say that maybe I came on a bit strong about all the Kaysar supporters. However, I just want to make my point. I was incensed when I saw that people were actually PETITIONING CBS to keep Kaysar safe. For one thing, if people were spending money on the text messages, that's their problem. They can use the internet. Don't have a computer? Go to the library. I just want to say that Kaysar's eviction was his own fault, and it's stupid to try and blame it on CBS not "keeping him safe," when the rules are laid out in advance. Kaysar let his voters down, end of story.

Now, a question
Did Michael ever say anything about Eric's family? Nothing except second hand stuff made it to TV. Could a live feed watcher answer this for me...thanks

The thing that you may not realize is that the rules for these games are drawn up in advance--well before the players ever even start the game. CBS can't go changing them just because a popular player may or may not get screwed over by his stupidty.

Kaysar had his shot and he blew it. He was in the HOH until the end and he let emotion take over. Stupid choices lead to unfortunate outcomes.

Some folks are like Slinkies:not really good for anything, but you still can't help but smile when you see 'em tumble down the stairs.