I don't know if I'm a big fan of Trish...but for Jenny to put down Trish for all of the men she's been with, why doesn't she take a look at Jesse? After his comment of "I'm tired of waking up to a strange face in the morning" I would imagine that he's no angel either.

Gerbees

It takes two to tango, and a marriage where a man seeks out someone else isn't exactly on solid ground anyway.

That's quite a statement. Adultery is serious business to me, and it doesn't matter if the parties involved are having trouble or not. Trish showed everyone her character when she admitted to having sex with a married man- not to mention the unusually high number of partners she's been with. When she threw in the part about being with women also, I started to wonder if she's just b.s.ing everyone, or maybe even a plant to spice things up. Anybody with an ounce of brains would have to realize that those admissions would hurt their chances, so I don't know what to make of it.

I'm with you boomer! I don't care about the circumstances...if you sleep with a married man then you are a homewrecker! I don't care if a man or woman is unhappy with their marriage, it doesn't give them an excuse to have an affair. Her open admission of that (with a sleezy grin on her face) let's me know that she doesn't value the marital commitment. People do make mistakes and can be forgiven, but she seems to think her behavior is normal and acceptable.

I also agree with you about the sleeping with women comments and that Trish may be lying to shock the other ladies in the house. She's slimey and obviously must not have any standards for herself!

Amen Boomerang and RealityAddict! Trish seemed to think that having a high number of "partners" and sleeping with a married man was a good thing. She is either just making up alot of stories or just a plain old HO!

Poncho

I think we agree more than we disagree. I agree that adultery is serious business, and that Trish is a woman of dubious character. I choose to place more blame on the person who was (1) bound by his vows, and (2) knew EXACTLY what he was getting into. But I see your side of it too, and I respect that.

I was more bothered by Trish's comments charity work when Jesse and Mandy Jaye were discussing that and her comments about "the free for all" she had the day before she left to go tape the bachelor. That made her look so trashy.

LAST EDITED ON 04-22-04 AT 03:56 PM (EST)

Alot of last night's episode made me go, WTF????

Why was Trish being so forthright with all of this trashy/shock value knowledge of herself? What did it serve? KNOWING it was going to be televised? Best case scenerio: she gets picked by Jesse and he ends up watching it, what will he think? Worse case scenerio: nothing lost doesn't get chosen and people just think she is a loose woman with poor morals/choices??

I did not understand the shock value of her statments and answers to the "I never" game. Further, I don't get the preview then of the date with Jesse where she states she's "pissed" because Jesse knows everything she has been saying because of Jenny. HELLO? You are being taped!! Everyone can hear what you are saying! Millions of people are watching you!

If she has nothing to hide and is comfortable with who she is with no regrets, this does NOT make any sense. She is now my top vote for stalker.

Jesse: Okay, he has slept with many women which is so NOT the same thing as having slept with a married person. There is a huge moral difference. I could care less how many people a person, male or female has slept with, or course it is the double standard of society. Who do you think the men sleep with? Each other?

I totally understand why he kept Trish. He still has 6 women left, and he needs to hear from her an explanation. And he is looking for a wife, a life partner. Someone who ultimately wants the same things he wants. Who you have slept with over time really doesn't matter (as long as you are healthy, disease free), but where you are going with your life, what your long term goals are, THAT is what is important. Having kids. It really doesn't sound like Trish is truly interested, except to hire a nanny. Work? Well, as long as her husband is successful and makes the cash so she can continue shopping she is a-okay.

Now, I am making huge generalizations I know. But he is looking for a big picture long haul thing, if he were looking for a whirl-wind week long romance, I'd say Trish looks great. For life partner, I'd go with Mandy Jaye or Suzie.

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I totally understand why he kept Trish. He still has 6 women left, and he needs to hear from her an explanation.

My question is, why didn't he take her aside before the rose ceremony and confront her about the affair? Unless the editing was done out of sequence, he knew about her past behavior before making the cut for last night. Carrying her along for another episode makes it look like her adulterous behavior wasn't that important to him. Shouldn't he have booted her and given one of the other girls a chance to stay in the competition?

He is intrigued by a few women, and frankly Trish does interest him. She has a lot of explaining to do, not just about an affair, that is only part of they story. Why is she one way with him, and completely different with the girls? And think that it would be acceptable? Like the kids thing for instance? Kids are a big deal for him. He doesn't want them immediately, but wants them just the same. She said she is interested, but at the house sounded as though she hated kids, or wanted someone else to raise them filthy things.

I really think Jesse is TRULY interested in Susie, Jessica and Mandy Jaye, the others are just people to get to know also. (not that they are not pretty or interesting) I could be wrong but that's how it looks. He loses nothing by keeping Trish, who else would he keep, Julie? Katie? He has really shown no interest in anyone else except the 6 women he chose.

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I think Trish is extremely insecure and exudes false confidence...I think she scares the other girls in part cause she is the "senior citizen" of the bunch..
Im not sure if it was fair for Jenni to bash her like that..I think that part was heavily edited..

Why did Jesse keep her around then..Im sure for ratings...This will keep us coming back...She will be gone next ..

<<Im not sure if it was fair for Jenni to bash her like that..I think that part was heavily edited..>>

How is this bashing? He asked her to put herself in the position of spy in order to report to him all the details. Jenny said she has to be careful to report fairly, and how the heck do you state the things that Trish has said and sound...."kind?" There is now wat to sugar coat this stuff! You can't! As a friend, Jenny was telling him things like HE wanted her to, and then she said something SHE needed to. i.e. If you stay with someone like this, I can't be your friend. This is called a boundary, we all make them. We all have our breaking points with friends, family and we need to say that even when it hurts.

I think Jenny has been an amazing friend, and I admire her and respect her greatly. I would be honored to have a friend like that. Jesse is dang lucky.

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I complete agree with you Tiggertramp...your thoughts on Trish and Jesse's feelings for Trish are spot on.

I love the glow worm too *heehee*

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LAST EDITED ON 04-22-04 AT 05:02 PM (EST)

One word why he kept her – PRODUCERS! He has his sites on one or two of the other woman. The producers tell him to keep her so when Jenny comes back next week they get all her drama and get her great reaction (and the other woman as she goes down in flames) to Jenny S. telling Jesse everything. If he cut her now what would be the big surprise of Jenny S. revealing she was a mole.

It all about ratings and we are falling for it hook, line and sinker.

>She has a lot of explaining to do, not just about an affair,
>that is only part of they story. Why is she one way with him,
>and completely different with the girls? And think that it would
>be acceptable? Like the kids thing for instance? Kids are
>a big deal for him. He doesn't want them immediately, but wants
>them just the same. She said she is interested, but at the house
>sounded as though she hated kids, or wanted someone else to
>raise them filthy things.

On this matter, I don't think she's inconsistent - or at least I would say that she doesn't think she's inconsistent. I think she's open to having kids as long as:

* There's no more than two,
* They're kept neat ALL THE TIME,
* She has a nanny and/or maid, and
* She only has to deal with them when she wants to (i.e. rarely).

I think she's living in a dream world in this regard, but she doesn't, and I don't think Jesse does. And who am I to argue with them?

As far as the rest of it goes, I'm sure he'll get the true story in due time. But he has to be careful, because some questions are likely to make Trish suspcious enough to say, "Who told you that?" And Jesse would either have to sell out his mole (he won't), make up something, or blubber out a non-reply.

Next week Jenny comes clean and says she is the spy, Trish then knows that everything that she said in the house, Jesse knows, so it is ALL out in the open. Jesse doesn;t have to say how he knows, Trish confronts Jenny and Trish has some has some esplaining to do!!!

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Bah, she isn't confident, she is immature.

I remember how 'grown up' it felt to have gained a little 'experience' when I was younger. I felt more womanly, more mature, and I wasn't shy about telling others that I had kissed a boy, or made out for the first time.

Most of us grow up, and Trish probably will, too. She has nothing in her life, apparently, and her sexual exploits are her only 'accomplishment.' Someday, more than likely, she will watch this back and be embarrassed. (At least, one can hope she will.)