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"Howie As HOH"

Posted by Shulman on 08-07-05 at 11:28 AM
LAST EDITED ON 08-07-05 AT 11:30 AM (EST)

LAST EDITED ON 08-07-05 AT 11:29 AM (EST)

Howie showed how gullible he is last night when he put up both James and Sarah for eviction. He was swayed by Maggie and her cronies. He evidently has no mind of his own. Even his pal Rachel agreed that he was mistaken.


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"RE: Howie As HOH"
Posted by TARJUNKIE999 on 08-07-05 at 12:26 PM
Ya got that right, brother. The show last night brought that out in painful detail. I also heard a lot of "me me me" from Howie last night, as in "you ruined my chances for the final two, blah, blah,blah). Howies looking out for Howie right now, unfortunately his timing is a little off. Too bad Kaysar's final instructions didn't include a Dummies Guide to knocking off Maggies Bunch. We shall see what becomes of this mess.

"RE: Howie As HOH"
Posted by ARnutz on 08-07-05 at 12:46 PM
He didn't even follow Kaysar's instructions. Kaysar told him to backdoor James and put up two of the "fiendship". If Howie had done that, then James wouldn't be able to play for POV. Now, James & Sarah both get to play for POV on Tuesday's show and if one of them wins it, they can get off the block! Totally dumb!


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"RE: Howie As HOH"
Posted by cambo on 08-07-05 at 12:41 PM
LAST EDITED ON 08-07-05 AT 12:41 PM (EST)

His decision goes down as one of the most boneheaded moves in BB history. Right along with when Marcellus was on the block and didn't use the POV to take himself off.

And to think Rachel threw the HOH competition for him...


"RE: Howie As HOH"
Posted by Aruba on 08-07-05 at 02:23 PM
OK Folks...the reason Howie was even considered for BB6 and allowed to enter the house was:
A) He is a member of MENSA with an IQ in the top 2% of the USA,
B) He has the strategic genius of a Grandmaster Chess champion,
c) He is an ex-stripper who women (and Beau) would like to look at.

Should anyone be surprised by his nominations?
Oh, the answer to the multiple choice? Anyone who seriously chose A or B should consider applying for the next series. You'll be a shoe-in for BB7! LOL


"RE: Howie As HOH"
Posted by RonReports on 08-07-05 at 04:52 PM
I disagree with everyone who posted here. Howie was right to nominate who he nominated. He heard and believed that James tried to cut a deal with the other side. James said that Howie and Rachel should be nominated. Howie did not want to spend one or more weeks pretending to James that he liked James and was allied to James. Even when Rachel later tried to change his mind, Howie had enough honesty and integrity to insist on keeping his word. I admire honesty, which is why I have contempt for Kaysar. Kaysar was evicted with a vote of 7 to 1 the week after he promised to keep Eric safe for one week and then broke his promise. Everyone in the house now knows that Howie's word can be relied on. Many reality show contestants over the years participated on other television shows. If he continues playing as honestly as he has been, Howie will have the reputation for honesty that he earned with this week's nominations.

"RE: Howie As HOH"
Posted by choochoo on 08-07-05 at 05:30 PM
Well said, but here are a few choice quotes that come to mind:

"The road to Hell is paved with good intentions"

"Nice guys finish Last!"

"Greed is Good!"

"Reality shows are NOT reality"


Sorry, I just don't buy it.


"RE: Howie As HOH"
Posted by dwash3 on 08-07-05 at 06:01 PM
Can I point out that not one person in the house has been honest!!! They all came into the house telling a lie, and when Kaysar called everyone on their "partnerships" Beau & Ivette still tried to act like they did not know each other .... just like April and Jennifer did. So you can take the whole honesty song and dance and throw it out the window.

"RE: Howie As HOH"
Posted by RonReports on 08-07-05 at 10:57 PM
dwash3, there is no problem with keeping secrets. But when someone makes a promise, the honest thing to do is to keep your word. Kaysar failed that test and Howie passed that test. Kaysar was thrown out of the house so quickly with so overwhelming a vote (7 to 1) that his strategy clearly failed. He leaves this game with the reputation of someone whose promise means nothing.

"RE: Howie As HOH"
Posted by ARnutz on 08-08-05 at 01:22 PM
The vote was 7 to 1 because Kaysar told his team to vote him out. He did it to save Janelle. The 1 vote was from James who didn't want Kaysar to be voted out unanimously.

What about Eric's promise to have the four guys go to the final 4? That's what started this whole ball rolling! Eric was the first to back out of a deal by nominating Michael. Everything else since then has been a direct result of that first move by Eric.



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"RE: Howie As HOH"
Posted by Roxxipoxxi on 08-08-05 at 09:00 PM
What's with all the talk about honesty and morals? News Flash: we are talking about a "reality show".

BTW, this is my first post here...


"RE: Howie As HOH"
Posted by TARJUNKIE999 on 08-07-05 at 06:33 PM
I disagree. Honesty can be faked, but I think Howie's stupidity may be "hereditary". LOL

Props to choochoo on the Gordon Gecko quote. Never thought I'd see that on this board. LMAO


"RE: Howie As HOH"
Posted by AspenGrove on 08-07-05 at 09:06 PM
I agree....he should have talked to Rachel first instead of doing what Maggie wanted. If Eric does come back, they are screwed!

"RE: Howie As HOH"
Posted by powderz on 08-07-05 at 11:56 PM
Even if Eric doesn't come back they could very well be screwed, unless they are able to win HOH a couple of weeks in a row. They will have lost the advantage of numbers, and it is not likely that whoever is not eliminated will co-operate with the "bad guys" against the "friendship". They will probaly be out for vengence for the elimination of their partner. It is true that James needed to go, just not this week. Hopefully if Kayser comes back he can use his smarts to fix the mess that Howie made.

"RE: Howie As HOH"
Posted by mrc on 08-08-05 at 01:07 PM
Actually, Howie could be smarter than we think.

Consider this:

Howie chooses Jennifer to compete for veto.
James chooses Rachel.
Sarah chooses Janelle.

5 of the 6 competing for veto belong on the same team. Jennifer hasn't done anything to warrant even a look as a threat, so 1 of the 5 gets the veto, takes off James, and Howie puts Maggie on the block.

Sarah vs. Maggie.

Maybe James puts enough pressure on Ivette to convince her to vote out Maggie, keeping Sarah safe.

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Yeah, I'm reaching, but it's all I got.


"RE: Howie As HOH"
Posted by choochoo on 08-08-05 at 01:55 PM
Interesting, but just two problems. Even if Howie checked his rage and took James off the block (which I doubt) and put up Maggie (which he is deathly afraid to do), then his team doesn't have enough votes to evict her. 4-3 (as HOH can't vote, I think). Secondly, Ivette would never cross Maggie (aka Cappie). I think he would be better off bringing April/Jennifer into the Jedi camp first. JMHO

"RE: Howie As HOH"
Posted by mrc on 08-08-05 at 02:12 PM
Your first point is solved by bringing in one of the "Friendship," i.e., Ivette, which gives the Dark Side a 4-3 ad.

Your second point is well taken. I admitted up front that I was reaching.

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