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"See-BS Misdirection: Episode 12"
Posted by smokedog on 04-29-05 at 01:07 AM
The aftermath of an emotional Tribal Council and stormy weather combine for a night the tribe will never forget.

To their surprise and delight, some Survivors are overwhelmed by a visit from their loved ones.

A strong alliance leaves one castaway on the outside looking in, with Immunity the only chance for survival.

Paranoia sets in as alliances crumble and some Survivors feel like they've lost control of the game.

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"RE: See-BS Misdirection: Episode 12"
Posted by fallingtogether on 04-29-05 at 01:19 AM
A strong alliance leaves one castaway on the outside looking in, with Immunity the only chance for survival.

Definatly Caryn here. Caryn's gameplan was fleshed out a bit last episode. We saw her going to Tom, telling him about Katie. And we saw say how she has no really alliance. Plus Tom told her about the alliance of five. So I think they're really trying to convince us that Caryn is in trouble, when in fact, Caryn is one of the few people that Tom can really trust (Ian being the other). So it'll be interesting to see what happens next episode. I really think Tom has this game in the bag. I mean he's got Ian, Caryn and Gregg under his wing. Ian controlls Katie, Gregg controls Jenn...

Anyway, I'm getting carried away...

"RE: See-BS Misdirection: Episode 12"
Posted by Debberz13 on 04-29-05 at 08:47 AM
There is no previews thread up so I thought I should post this here. Looks like the spoilers are true that Greg, Katie, and Jenn go on reward. Jenn is seen wearing a (never seen before)blue tank top and she and Katie both have very clean hair. Is Greg not seen because he shaved?

I can see several things that could happen to cause Greg's demise this ep.(per Mer's spoiler) First on the reward trip, he tries to talk Katie into dumping Tom this week and she blabs, two Tom is very ticked off he didn't get to spend more time with his family member because Greg didn't choose him to go on the reward, and three Caryn has proven her loyalty to Tom plus wins the IN.

"RE: See-BS Misdirection: Episode 12"
Posted by Loree on 04-29-05 at 09:05 AM
LAST EDITED ON 04-29-05 AT 09:06 AM (EST)

If this reward involves more food. I could see Tom, Caryn and Ian thinking Greg should have taken Ian or given up his place to Ian. Gregg went on the reward feast with Tom, Caryn and Janu. Now he is taking Jenn and Katie. That would mean Ian is the only tribe member that did not get to go away and eat.

This means Gregg will be getting stronger. And Ian and Tom have to be worried about Gregg dominating challenges. They would not be as worried about Katie and Jen.

"RE: See-BS Misdirection: Episode 12"
Posted by braveheart on 04-29-05 at 09:35 AM
If part of the reward involves swimming with dolphins and Ian is a dolphin trainer, maybe Greg feels Ian's been around enough dolphins and doesn't need to go...(lol)

Also, maybe Greg doesn't want the men to have any further hardy nutrition because it will help make them stronger in the challenges. Greg must feel that he's going to at least last longer than Caryn at this point, and therfore compete in further challenges.
Gregg wouldn't take Caryn because he feels what's the point, she's going next so he will try to persuade Katie over to the Jenn/Greg allaince.

Braveheart

"Your sig pic is too large"
Posted by IceCat on 04-29-05 at 06:07 PM
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"RE: Your sig pic is too large"
Posted by braveheart on 04-30-05 at 11:50 AM
Thanks IceCat,

Is this a little better?

Braveheart

"RE: See-BS Misdirection: Episode 12"
Posted by Bebo on 04-29-05 at 11:22 AM
Gregg thinks he has a solid alliance of 4 with Jenn, Katie, and Ian. We saw them talking together about getting rid of Tom. He has to feel comfortable with his alliance after convincing people to stick with the plan of voting out Steph.

Now he has a reward that he can share with 2 of the 3 in his alliance. The problem is, he shows the 4th member what the pecking order is when he makes his choice. So Ian, realizing that Gregg's plan has Ian in fourth place, sees that convincing Katie to stick with Tom and Caryn is the much more desirable option. He'll have no trouble convincing Katie to go along with his decision, since it has to be perfectly clear who Gregg and Jenn would take to the final two if given the option...each other.

Leaving Ian behind shows him the writing on the wall, and he has no trouble getting Caryn and Tom to agree that now is the time to get rid of Gregg. Once Katie's back, she'll easily agree, seeing this gives her a much better shot at final 2.

And per the spoilers:
- Gregg gets booted as a consequence of his choice for the reward challenge - Ian plots against him.
- Caryn goes fifth - This has me leaning toward a Jenn IC win. Since they can't send her back to her boy toy just yet, they get rid of Caryn, who is no longer of any use. Since Ian would never support getting rid of Katie, Tom could offer the unpopular Caryn to be jettisoned and keep Katie from going after him.
- Jenn goes fourth - No reason to keep her.



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"RE: See-BS Misdirection: Episode 12"
Posted by Debberz13 on 04-30-05 at 10:10 AM



>
>And per the spoilers:
>- Gregg gets booted as a
>consequence of his choice for
>the reward challenge - Ian
>plots against him.
>- Caryn goes fifth - This
>has me leaning toward a
>Jenn IC win. Since
>they can't send her back
>to her boy toy just
>yet, they get rid of
>Caryn, who is no longer
>of any use. Since
>Ian would never support getting
>rid of Katie, Tom could
>offer the unpopular Caryn to
>be jettisoned and keep Katie
>from going after him.
>- Jenn goes fourth - No
>reason to keep her.


I think you are right. Katie blabs Greg's plan to Tom and Ian after he takes her on reward and tries to get her to join his and Jenn's alliance.

Tom wins the IN this week in the combo of previous challenges.He has the participated in almost all of them the first time around giving him the advantage, plus we may have a cap of him with the IN on at tribal (unless it is a recycle)

Greg goes to LL this week for plotting against Tom and Ian.

The plan is to take out Jenn next week for the same offense but she suprises everyone and wins the IN so the vote has to change to Caryn. OR Caryn tries to get the girl alliance together again and pays for it. Because it is really had to believe Jenn wins anything! LOL

Looks like Mer isn't going to make any mistakes. I have a feeling Tom is going to win all the INs from here on making it impossible to vote him out. He will at least win the final 4 IN or Katie would be able to get Ian and Jenn to dump him.

"RE: See-BS Misdirection: Episode 12"
Posted by Brownroach on 05-03-05 at 12:09 PM
I originally thought Katie blabbing to Tom/Ian would be the cause of Gregg's downfall, but after last week I think it will go down slightly differently.

As we found out, Katie does want Tom out, so she should be amenable to Gregg/Jenn's proposal that they get rid of him. But in the preview, Ian and Caryn are telling Tom about the plot, and Tom asks if Katie is in on it too.

Caryn is going to gum up the works by siding with Tom and Ian. Tom will probably call Katie out about the plot, and when Katie realizes that Tom, Ian and Caryn are all going to vote for Gregg, she'll have no choice but to go along to prevent a tie at TC.



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"RE: See-BS Misdirection: Episode 12"
Posted by Krautboy on 04-30-05 at 11:34 AM

"To their surprise and delight, some Survivors are overwhelmed by a visit from their loved ones."

This sounds like only Gregg, Jenn and Katie get to visit with their loved ones. The will probably arrive at the yacht to find their loved ones waiting for them...surprised, overwhelmed and delighted.


Krautboy

"Gregg is dead meat"
Posted by Round Robin on 05-03-05 at 00:35 AM
KB, if that's how it went down, the three left behind will all hit the ceiling over not being picked, and they'll get Little Miss Blabbermouth to vote with them. Gregg is doomed.
"RE: Gregg is dead meat"
Posted by Loree on 05-03-05 at 09:48 AM
Well Gregg definitely is showing Tom and Ian where his loyalties lie. And it isn't with the men. So it will be easy for them to decide he's the biggest threat of the others and to vote him out NOW.
"RE: Gregg is dead meat"
Posted by michel on 05-03-05 at 07:33 PM
I agree with Brownroach on how it is going to happen, except Tom doesn't have to go to Katie. Ian would take care of that. I can also imagine that once Gregg is gone, it will be Katie that forces Caryn's boot, making good on the spoilers once more. It certanily won't be because Jenn wins immunuty!
"RE: Gregg is dead meat"
Posted by Brownroach on 05-04-05 at 10:48 AM
it will be Katie that forces Caryn's boot, making good on the spoilers once more. It certanily won't be because Jenn wins immunuty!

I agree here too -- Katie won't want Caryn leeching onto Tom any longer. The Gregg boot is primarily to break Gregg and Jenn up, but it's not a priority for Jenn to go next.



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"RE: Gregg is dead meat"
Posted by Bebo on 05-04-05 at 12:04 PM
>It certanily won't be because Jenn wins immunuty!

I've been thinking it over, and you're right. The spoilers indicate that Ian and Tom are challenge hogs, and Jenn has shown no strength in challenges whatsoever, so I no longer lean toward Jenn doing well at an IC.

And it's an easy call for Katie and Ian to vote off Caryn before Jenn. Her loyalty to Tom is obvious, while Jenn has not been Tom's blind follower. Katie would be looking ahead to F4, when they could try and get rid of Tom, and Jenn would be far more likely to go along with them than Caryn.

My new leaning? Tom wins F4 IC, so that Katie has no choice but to vote out Jenn.


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"Stormy Weather"
Posted by TorontoFan1 on 05-04-05 at 02:13 PM
Any speculation as to what Tom and Ian are looking at when they make "Oh, no" comments??

Wonder if it is linked to the "stormy weather" ?

Maybe the boat gets loose or gets bashed around by falling branches??