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"Worst behavior, Brandon and Nicole, Colin, or Chip?"
Posted by buscemi on 08-25-04 at 09:44 AM
1. Last week, Brandon and Nicole take a bus. The bus runs out of gas (or is it faked?) and makes it to the destination. Bradon and Nicole refuse to pay full price. Finally, Nicole drops the $$ on the ground in front of the bus driver.

2. This week, Colin and Christie take a 2 hour taxi drive on the highway. This drive is extremely unsafe b/c the taxi is on a donut. Of course, the donut blows out. Colin will only pay half price. Facing charges being pressed, he drops his money on the counter.

3. This week, Chip and Kim take a taxi in the desert. Everything Chip says reveals that he knows he doesn't have enough money to pay the driver. At the end, Chip pays him only about half the bill, despite the driver doing nothing wrong.

I'll go with Chip on this one. I wonder what would have happened if Chip tried to stiff the cab driver at the airport?

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"Chip?"
Posted by Breezy on 08-25-04 at 09:45 AM
He was honest with the driver and thanked him for taking less than what was owed.
"RE: Chip?"
Posted by buscemi on 08-25-04 at 09:47 AM
"He was honest with the driver and thanked him for taking less than what was owed."

Well, what else was he going to do? The driver didn't do anything wrong and got them to their destination in a regular amount of time. If Chip was going to be proper, he should have told him about the money situation ahead of time.

"What else?"
Posted by Breezy on 08-25-04 at 09:50 AM
LAST EDITED ON 08-25-04 AT 09:51 AM (EST)

Well if he was like Colin, he would have started blaming others and working himself up into a rage. He would have yelled at the driver that since other teams had arrived before him, that he wasn't getting his full fare.

"RE: What else?"
Posted by buscemi on 08-25-04 at 09:55 AM
There was no indication that Chip and Kim were passed by other teams.
"RE: What else?"
Posted by friedheine on 08-26-04 at 08:31 AM
Colin displayed THE absolute WORST behavior of ANY player on ANY episode of The Amazing Race to date!!! And he NEVER intended to pay the full amount for his ride! At the beginning, while he was climbing into the cab, finally "agreeing" (after being a SNOT to the driver) to the hundred dollars, he said, "You'd better go real fast for a hundred bucks!" ...and then, when the other teams started passing them, he immediately said, "I'm NOT GOING TO PAY YOU if you let them PASS!" because that little punk never wanted to give up the dough- it didn't have a THING to do with that flat tire, until he decided that it was his best excuse to use to keep the money!!! So, while Chip worried about whether or not he was going to have enough money for his fare, Colin plotted to rip off the taxi driver. He wins the trophy, hands down.

"RE: Chip?"
Posted by friedheine on 08-25-04 at 09:55 AM

"If Chip was going to be proper, he should have told him about the money situation ahead of time."

Maybe Chip didn't have the ability to figure the mileage involved, and calculate the tab before they started moving!!!!!!!

"Of course, the donut blows out. Colin will only pay half price. Facing charges being pressed, he drops his money on the counter."

Yeah, right, or he THREW the money up into the air!!!! C'mon, you've already gone on a useless crusade to defend your hero Colin in that other thread, why don't you just give it a rest?

"RE: Chip?"
Posted by buscemi on 08-25-04 at 09:57 AM
"Maybe Chip didn't have the ability to figure the mileage involved, and calculate the tab before they started moving!!!!!!!"

That's why you ask the cabbie if you have enough before you start. Besides, he could have told him before they got to the destination.

"Yeah, right, or he THREW the money up into the air!!!! C'mon, you've already gone on a useless crusade to defend your hero Colin in that other thread, why don't you just give it a rest?"

Colin is not a very good guy. But he's not an ogre.

"RE: Chip?"
Posted by EnglProf on 08-25-04 at 11:12 AM
Colin is an ogre.

Chip said he was about 10 dollars short, and was extremely polite and grateful. Is there really a contest for who's the bigger ##### here?


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"RE: Chip?"
Posted by bdemoney on 08-25-04 at 12:54 PM
I agree with your reasoning 100% Engl Prof! There is no way Chip's actions even come close to comparing to the childish, ranting actions of Colin's last night.

"RE: "Colin is not a very good guy. But he's not an ogre.""
Posted by teesosh on 08-25-04 at 01:07 PM
No, he isn't "an ogre".

SHREK is an ogre.

Colin is a stuck-up, self-centered, mean, nasty, hateful, controlling, good-for-nothing S.O.B. and your relentless campaign of making excuses for him is really starting to creep me out!

"RE: Chip?"
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 08-25-04 at 10:05 AM
If the cabbie were to demand the full amount, then we would have seen Chip figure out a way to handle it or have to make amends in some way that would set him back in the game -- but one thing we know is that Chip wouldn't have gone all ballistic. Politeness and respectfulness will always give you a much better chance at getting out of a fix or bad situation than boorish behaviour.



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"RE: Chip?"
Posted by buscemi on 08-25-04 at 10:08 AM
That's a fair statement, but I'm not attacking Chip for his demeanor. I'm attacking him because entered that cab knowing full well that he was going to stiff the driver.
"RE: Chip?"
Posted by nailbone on 08-25-04 at 11:10 AM
Au contraire. Your subject is "worst behavior". Even if Chip did know that he was going to have to short the driver, he was a nice guy about it and very apologetic, VERY unlike Colin or Nicole.


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"RE: Chip?"
Posted by emydi on 08-25-04 at 10:14 AM
I agree Pepe

Colin is an #####...I see him being a wife batterer later in life..he has classic behavior and Christie has all the markings of a battered wife....It really is very sad

If I were Chip, I would have just tried to borrow money from someone beforehand. But he did the best he could and it is NO WHERE NEAR WHAT THAT A$$HOLE COLIN DID. I wish they would have put him in handcuffs and beat him...

Did you see ALL the money Karli and Kimmie had to hand over. If they were smart last nite, when they were relegated to the 2nd plane, they should have given all, or close to all of their money to Brandon and Nicole to "hold" for them. It was likely that last nite was going to be a non elimination nite and they could have gotten their money back later from Brandon and Nicole, the "Jesus loves you" couple


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"RE: Chip?"
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 08-25-04 at 10:25 AM

>Did you see ALL the money
>Karli and Kimmie had to
>hand over. If they
>were smart last nite, when
>they were relegated to the
>2nd plane, they should have
>given all, or close to
>all of their money to
>Brandon and Nicole to "hold"
>for them. It was
>likely that last nite was
>going to be a non
>elimination nite and they could
>have gotten their money back
>later from Brandon and Nicole,
>the "Jesus loves you" couple
>

Hmmm, that would have been interesting, I wonder if any of the teams have ever thought about trying that? Then again, what if that team (B/N in this case) ended up finishing last? They would have lost the twins' money! As a matter of fact, B/N *would* have been last if the twins hadn't missed the flag the first time and got in to do the skydiving first.



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"RE: Chip?"
Posted by emydi on 08-25-04 at 10:35 AM
No, Pepe, K/K give the money to B/N as they are getting on the plane and they know that they have a good chance of coming in 5th. Give them most of it, they had stacks and bags of it...


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"RE: Chip?"
Posted by buscemi on 08-25-04 at 10:36 AM
Yeah, K & K's spending habits must have been very different from the spending of Chip & Kim (and I'm guessing B & N).
"RE: Chip?"
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 08-25-04 at 11:14 AM
Yes, interesting... weren't the twins on the same bus as B/N when they had to pay $100? And they still had LOTS of money left. Wonder if they're doing poorly because they're not as willing to bribe people or pay extra -- much of which we're not being shown on TV that other people seem to be doing?



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"RE: Chip?"
Posted by bdemoney on 08-25-04 at 12:56 PM
Maybe the reason the twins have so much more money than everyone else is that they don't ever stop to eat? Maybe they are saving their money by not eating. They are sure skinny enough for that to be a possiblity!

"RE: Chip?"
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 08-25-04 at 01:07 PM
Either that, or they're constantly screwing up and always falling behind that they don't have time to stop and grab a bite! Everyone else seems to be having plenty of time to stop and eat...



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"RE: Chip?"
Posted by Smooth23 on 08-25-04 at 05:41 PM
I thought it looked like they only had a $5 and a bunch of 1's
"That's a misstated title..."
Posted by newsomewayne on 08-25-04 at 01:58 PM
>they could
>have gotten their money back
>later from Brandon and Nicole,
>the "Jesus loves you" couple
>
>
I contend that Brandon and Nicole are more the "Jesus loves us more than you" couple.
"RE: Chip?"
Posted by aquariaqueen on 08-25-04 at 09:31 PM
I could also see Chip offering the cabbie something in his personal belongings, say an American shirt or something, heck, sunglasses or something of the sort.
"RE: Worst behavior, Brandon and Nicole, Colin, or Chip?"
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 08-25-04 at 09:50 AM
Colin's behaviour trumped everything else. Brandon and Nicole kept their composure without being boorish, even though they were being jobbed big time by the bus guy who was going way overboard.

By comparision, Colin agreed to pay a certain amount and the cabbie got him there. The cabbie tried to keep it safe -- as someone else explained, the spare tire is good for MONTHS as long as you don't have an imbecile screaming into your ear to go faster than safely allowed, and then threatening to not pay you if you're going to follow the safer speed limit and end up having other teams pass you by.

No contest.

Like Breezy said, Chip was respectful and thanked the cabbie for his generousity -- think Colin would have done that? Nope.



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"RE: Worst behavior, Brandon and Nicole, Colin, or Chip?"
Posted by buscemi on 08-25-04 at 09:54 AM
-Brandon and Nicole most certainly did not keep their composure. Nicole was yelling at the driver and being very disrespectful to him. Besides, B & N didn't have the police threatening to arrest them if they didn't pay. And B & N agreed to pay the price they payed.

-Come on, almost every team in every Amazing Race has yeled at their cabbie to go faster, especially when being passed by other teams. What C & C were doing wasn't out of the ordinary.

-I doubt that Colin would have gotten into a cab knowing he couldn't pay the full amount. However, if Colin were in that situation, I'm sure he'd thank the cabbie for taking less than the full amount if the cabbie had done nothig wrong.

"RE: Worst behavior, Brandon and Nicole, Colin, or Chip?"
Posted by yourstruly on 08-25-04 at 03:23 PM
Their is no comparison between Chip/Kim and Brandon/Nicole and C/C. Chip and Kim have been very accurately explained. I will stick to Brandon and Nicole.
Nicole's behavor at the end was not very nice yes. However, she was scared to death. Both teams attempted to get off the bus. They knew they were being fleeced. Not only that but it was clearly stated by Brandon that they will only pay this amount if they leave immediately and go quickly. The drivers bullied them. They would not even let them leave. Nicole reacted out of fear and disbelief that the drivers would get away with this.
Colin had no $50 verbal agreement. He got in the cab knowing that. He has no right to expect anything but to arrive at the airport. He got what he paid for.
"RE: Worst behavior, Brandon and Nicole, Colin, or Chip?"
Posted by KMan on 08-25-04 at 09:54 AM
Point of clarification - the donut on Colin's taxi didn't blow out. A regular tire blew and when Colin asked why he didn't have a spare, the driver responded that the spare was already being used on the front tire.
"RE: Worst behavior, Brandon and Nicole, Colin, or Chip?"
Posted by buscemi on 08-25-04 at 09:56 AM
Wow, you're right. So, the car was dangerous with the donut. The car didn't have a spare. AND, the driver blew out a tire. And people think that Colin should have payed the $100?
"RE: Worst behavior, Brandon and Nicole, Colin, or Chip?"
Posted by anotherkim on 08-25-04 at 10:58 AM
The car wasn't dangerous with a donut at 55 mph.

Also, at the police station, Colin said that he only agreed to pay the driver if they arrived in the same order. Either they edited him making that deal out, or it was a total lie.

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--my vote is for Colin, then Brandon and Nicole, then Chip.

"RE: Worst behavior, Brandon and Nicole, Colin, or Chip?"
Posted by buscemi on 08-25-04 at 11:07 AM
Taking a 2 hour trip on a highway on a donut is dangerous. If you keep it under 55, it's not as dangerous, but it's not safe.

"RE: Worst behavior, Brandon and Nicole, Colin, or Chip?"
Posted by EnglProf on 08-25-04 at 11:18 AM
Even before the tire blew, Colin threatened not to pay the driver if they got passed, so he was hell bent on not having to pay because he thinks the world owes him something the minute things don't go his way.

Colin is a threatening, scary, a$$hole and there's really no argument here, Buscemi.


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"RE: Worst behavior, Brandon and Nicole, Colin, or Chip?"
Posted by Just Plain Bill on 08-25-04 at 10:00 AM
I'd go with Chip's underlying behavior as the worst. He got into the cab knowing he was going to stiff the driver on the fare. Even though he did it with a smile and a nice attitude, he was still out of line, imo.

IIRC, Colin told the driver at the outset $50 for the ride but $100 if he got them to the destination 'really fast'. Technically he was correct with the $50. But his entire attitude and demeanor was really off-putting. And his sense of proportion? Risking the shot at a $1 million prize over a $50 dispute of money that's not even his?

Christie exhibits all the traits of the abused partner unless there was a lot more to her actions during the fare fracas than was broadcast. From what I saw Colin's behavior towards her was completely out of line, yet later she apologized to him (which he, of course, accepted with his usual grace).

Temperament-wise, Colin/Nicole & Brandon/Christie would be better matches. Nicole seems to have a large measure of 'shrew' in her while Brandon seems to just want everyone to like him, regardless of the cost.

"RE: Worst behavior, Brandon and Nicole, Colin, or Chip?"
Posted by buscemi on 08-25-04 at 10:04 AM
"Christie exhibits all the traits of the abused partner unless there was a lot more to her actions during the fare fracas than was broadcast."

See, I don't see that at all. What I saw was that Christie realized that Colin had gone over the top based on the stressful situation, and she apologized so he could get his mind back on the race. Then, the next day, she was ordering him to sit in the back of the taxi while she talked to the driver.

"RE: Worst behavior, Brandon and Nicole, Colin, or Chip?"
Posted by emydi on 08-25-04 at 10:21 AM
It was what she did later, she apologized to him for WHAT?????

It is classic battered wife behavior. Apologizing for the bad actions of the abuser after the fact. And in the previews for next week, we see he does it all over again. It's cyclical and very classic behavior from an abuser.


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"RE: Worst behavior, Brandon and Nicole, Colin, or Chip?"
Posted by buscemi on 08-25-04 at 10:24 AM
I didn't see the preview. What did they show.

And how does Christie 'putting Colin in his place' with the next cabbie fit in?

"RE: Worst behavior, Brandon and Nicole, Colin, or Chip?"
Posted by emydi on 08-25-04 at 10:37 AM
He's making a wall or something and he's screaming at Christie:

"Im packing it, I'm packing it"

He just is horrible to a person he is supposed to love.

No woman needs that crap...One time okay but a constant barrage of negative comments and abusive behavior is just not acceptable, even in this game.


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"RE: Worst behavior, Brandon and Nicole, Colin, or Chip?"
Posted by buscemi on 08-25-04 at 10:41 AM
See, besides the cab thing, I wouldn't characterize anything (except maybe the caviar thing) as abusive or negative. And he apologized for the caviar thing.
"RE: Worst behavior, Brandon and Nicole, Colin, or Chip?"
Posted by nailbone on 08-25-04 at 11:20 AM
Worse case of blinders I've ever seen. You need to head over to Fanatics in a hurry.


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"RE: Worst behavior, Brandon and Nicole, Colin, or Chip?"
Posted by EnglProf on 08-25-04 at 11:25 AM
LAST EDITED ON 08-25-04 AT 11:25 AM (EST)

Buscemi, It doesn't become unabusive because you apologize for it.

He was also steaming mad and scary when he got outsmarted by Charla and Mirna last week over the earlier plane tickets. In "The Amazing Race Insider" on CBS.com, you can see him boss Christie when she wants to pause to hand out some gum to the poor African kids. He's just a bully, plain and simple.

His over-the-top hatred for Charla and Mirna is also symptomatic of a bully. He couldn't stand when they got the best of him, or generally ran the race better. I think he's a self-important, abusive, woman-hating, bully. But hey, he's not in my life, so you're welcome to keep defending him.

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"RE: Worst behavior, Brandon and Nicole, Colin, or Chip?"
Posted by Just Plain Bill on 08-25-04 at 10:33 AM
>See, I don't see that at all. What I saw was that Christie realized that Colin had gone over the top based on the stressful situation, and she apologized so he could get his mind back on the race.<

The apology to Colin came well after the incident was past. During and right after the brouhaha he kept blaming the escalation of hostilities on things she was doing. Then he was verbally abusive towards her when relating his version of the tale to the other competitors.

>Then, the next day, she was ordering him to sit in the back of the taxi while she talked to the driver.<

I liked that, too. Put the jerk in his place for a few minutes at least. But he quickly refound his condescending arrogance.

I was kind of hoping they'd opt for the skydiving and that he'd become separated from the instructor.


"RE: Worst behavior, Brandon and Nicole, Colin, or Chip?"
Posted by pmspml5 on 08-25-04 at 12:06 PM
I had to rewatch since your $50 from the onset. Colin did say $50.00 and the cab driver said NO WAY its $100.00 and did not get into the car until Colin said OK. Once he was in the car and he noticed the first car getting close only THEN did HE say that he would not pay if anyone passed the driver. The driver never agreed to that. Also, - he never even ASKED for the spare to the other taxi - he TOLD them he needed it and took it. As far as CHIP is concerned when they showed the meter around 60.00 is when he started to get really concerned - and he was talking OUT LOUD about it surely the cab driver heard him. He also talked to the cab driver face to face and made no excuses for himself - it was his fault and he took the blame for it. My biggest frustration right now is that people are saying that the one cab driver was wrong because of the tire - but that Chips driver was an honest business man and he could be but do you know that for sure? what about the cab that ran out of oil. Did you see the BM even think about not paying him. It just seems that everytime they have to put out money they try to finagle their way out of paying it.
"RE: Worst behavior, Brandon and Nicole, Colin, or Chip?"
Posted by Mistral on 08-25-04 at 10:35 AM
I knew there'd be tons of furor over this incident!!

Frankly, I do think Colin was over the edge in his behavior. However, I'm certain I'd be pretty upset if the cab driver had no spare (or was already using the donut spare) and there was a problem. But I doubt cabs are regulated there the way they are here.

As for the fare, $100 seemed to be the going rate, that all teams were paying, unlike the blatant bus rip-off that B/N and K/K dealt with last week. For a 2 hour ride, I think it sounds reasonable, but I don't take cabs that often so what do I know?

I can't really blame Colin or Nicole for getting pissy about being ripped off. But at what point do you just count your losses and get over it? Had he been pressed for time, I'm certain Colin would have just paid and not created a scene. No way would he have let it cost him time in the game. But since they had a wait at the airport, I suppose he figured he had time to kill, so he made an issue of it.

As for Chip, I think it was pretty stupid for him to tip an extra $20 to the cabdriver at the airport. This is what caused him to shortpay the driver in Dubai. Of course, he just tries to justify it with his "karma", but stiffing is stiffing and I don't give him points for being nice about it.

"RE: Worst behavior, Brandon and Nicole, Colin, or Chip?"
Posted by AMAI on 08-25-04 at 10:36 AM
At the end, Chip pays him only about half the bill, despite the driver doing nothing wrong.

Point of clarification - they were $10 short on the fare. They did not stiff their driver for "half the bill." It showed 80.92 or something. Whether that's in their money or what, I understood that had Chip been able to pay an earlier cabbie correct money (as Kim wanted to do, about $9 instead of $20) then they would have had enough.

So, maybe karma visited everyone. The driver who got stiffed for $10 of his $80 cab fare may have stiffed other people, or over-charged, or pretended he had no change to make people over-pay him. So this time, he got his.

The fact is, generally Chip has been a good guy and tried to do the right thing. When we saw how much money the K Twins had to hand over, we realize just HOW generous Chip has been. He has indeed gone overboard because they shouldn't have been out of money at this point.


"RE: Worst behavior, Brandon and Nicole, Colin, or Chip?"
Posted by buscemi on 08-25-04 at 10:39 AM
I think that the $80.92 was in Dubai money. If I remember correctly, the bill was about $20, and Chip payed $11. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, though. I thought it was close to a 50% stiff.
"RE: Worst behavior, Brandon and Nicole, Colin, or Chip?"
Posted by nailbone on 08-25-04 at 11:41 AM
I believe it was $16 that they paid the driver. As for Chip knowing ahead of time, he wasn't sure until they got there. He suspected, but not really knowing the exchange rate, he didn't know for sure they'd be short, or by how much.


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"RE: Worst behavior, Brandon and Nicole, Colin, or Chip?"
Posted by Smooth23 on 08-25-04 at 05:52 PM
I thought he paid the driver $16 also, and specifically mentioned needing $4, so aparantly the fare was $20 dollars. And if those are the right figures, being short by 20% really isn't all that big of a deal.
"RE: Worst behavior, Brandon and Nicole, Colin, or Chip?"
Posted by RuffNeck on 08-25-04 at 01:46 PM

>Point of clarification - they were
>$10 short on the fare.
>They did not stiff their
>driver for "half the bill."
>It showed 80.92 or something.
>Whether that's in their money
>or what, I understood that
>had Chip been able to
>pay an earlier cabbie correct
>money (as Kim wanted to
>do, about $9 instead of
>$20) then they would have
>had enough.

I don't think that's right, because I thought that was Brandon who paid the driver $20 then Nicole got all over him when she asked Kim how much they had actually paid for the ride and she responded $9.

"RE: Worst behavior, Brandon and Nicole, Colin, or Chip?"
Posted by nailbone on 08-25-04 at 06:33 PM
Chip and Kim's cab driver charged them $9, but didn't have any change, so Chip gave him a $20 and told him not to worry about the change. Then Kim commented that Chip is always a big tipper and it's gonna get them in trouble soon (foreshadowing).


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"RE: Worst behavior, Brandon and Nicole, Colin, or Chip?"
Posted by Estee on 08-25-04 at 06:46 PM
The use of the unbreakable $20 was Brandon, actually. Chip was in a cold financial sweat by that point, trying very hard not to say anything while Nicole chewed Brandon out again.
"RE: Worst behavior, Brandon and Nicole, Colin, or Chip?"
Posted by anotherkim on 08-25-04 at 11:02 AM

There is no comparision in the way that Chip acted and the way taht B/N and Colin acted. Chip and Kim didn't have a clue how much that taxi ride was going to cost. I've BTDT in a cab before myself. He acted with humilty and apologized over and over when they got there and realized how much short they were.

Colin acted like a baby....no, a baby wouldn't have even acted that poorly. Brandon and Nicole were IDIOTS for staying on that bus.

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"RE: Worst behavior, Brandon and Nicole, Colin, or Chip?"
Posted by buscemi on 08-25-04 at 11:10 AM
Chip and Kim knew they were low on money. Their comments indicated that they were pretty sure that they would be well short on cash. The right thing to do would have been to ask ahead of time.

And of course Chip handled it with humility. He was trying to get away with stiffing a good & honest driver. Anyone would act nice in that circumstance. Meanwhile, B & N were being fleeced, and C & C were driven slowly in an unsafe taxi that blew out a tire and didn't have a spare.

" COLIN!!!!!!!!! "
Posted by ARnutz on 08-25-04 at 11:14 AM
And this week nobody can blame it on Mirna!!!!!!!!!!!
"RE: COLIN!!!!!!!!! "
Posted by Just Plain Bill on 08-25-04 at 11:32 AM
Sure we can, watch: It's all Myrna's fault!
"Is this really a contest?"
Posted by FesterFan1 on 08-25-04 at 11:29 AM
I think Colin being nearly dragged away to a Kenyan prison trumps any passive-aggressive/pouty behavior on Team Stigmata or Team Token's parts.

It's one thing to have a knock-down, drag-out argument with a cabbie, but when you completely disrespect the rule of law in a country because you "have a flight to catch", it goes beyond the pale. He needed a Rodney King-style beat down, and that he didn't get one speaks volumes about the patience of the Nairobi (or wherever the hell they were) police. (Of course, the fact that American national television cameras were rolling probably eased his treatment considerably, but still.)

Fester

"Colin is king"
Posted by moonbaby on 08-25-04 at 12:39 PM
of temper tantrums. I was hoping someone would come out and hose him down with a blast of cold water.

If he is so concerned with his safety he should have inspected the cab before they got in.


"RE: Colin is king"
Posted by ginger on 08-25-04 at 01:15 PM
Pity he didn't pull this stunt in Singapore. Where they would execute him.


Or at least hit him numerous times with a great big stick.

"RE: Colin is king"
Posted by PhillyDon on 08-25-04 at 01:18 PM
I think Colon's (Yes, I know how he spells it. I think this is more appropriate) behavior to the Tanzanian policeman was dispicable. He should be doing time there as I type this. He embarrasses me as an American.
"RE: Colin is king"
Posted by emydi on 08-25-04 at 01:28 PM
Or at least hit him numerous times with a great big stick.

BWAHAWAHWAWHA

You know that cab driver wanted to just pick little colin up by his scrawny little neck and swing him to and fro...


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"RE: Worst behavior, Brandon and Nicole, Colin, or Chip?"
Posted by teesosh on 08-25-04 at 01:33 PM
"1. Last week, Brandon and Nicole take a bus..............I'll go with Chip on this one."

WARNING!!!!

Do not be fooled!!!

This thread is a "straw man"... set up entirely for the purpose of The Eternal Defense Of (the indefensible)Colin!!!

Read on at your own risk!

"RE: Worst behavior, Brandon and Nicole, Colin, or Chip?"
Posted by sittem on 08-25-04 at 04:26 PM
I already said it in Fanatics, but I'll say it here.

When you get in a cab or public transit in a third world country it's up to YOU to ascertain if it's safe. Vehilces are often in disrepair by western standards. Once you agree on a price you can't change your mind or renegotiate on the unless you have a willing vendor (not very likely). Also, racers should further keep in mind that people in most other cultures don't put much value in time or moving quickly.

I'm wondering if the producers don't do some pre-education on this for the racers or just leave them totally to wallow in their own ignorance - I guess it's the latter as it makes for more interesting TV.

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"Sittem!"
Posted by Breezy on 08-25-04 at 05:00 PM
I've already voiced my opinion on this issue.

Are you ever going to check your email Sittem?

"RE: Sittem!"
Posted by sittem on 08-25-04 at 09:08 PM
gosh - I did respond, but noticed no registrations yet so I better go to a PM tonight!!!!

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"RE: Worst behavior, Brandon and Nicole, Colin, or Chip?"
Posted by buscemi on 08-25-04 at 05:07 PM
I agree with you. However, the same applies to B & N with the bus. And, of course, you shouldn't get into a cab in a 3rd world country when you might not have fare. All 3 teams were wrong. I'm just asking which was the worst.
"RE: Worst behavior, Brandon and Nicole, Colin, or Chip?"
Posted by ssshaw on 08-25-04 at 06:02 PM
>1. Last week, Brandon and
>Nicole take a bus.
>The bus runs out of
>gas (or is it faked?)
>and makes it to the
>destination. Bradon and Nicole
>refuse to pay full price.
> Finally, Nicole drops the
>$$ on the ground in
>front of the bus driver.

I can understand why she is upset because they were clearly being hustled. There really wasn't a better way they could of handled it.

>2. This week, Colin and
>Christie take a 2 hour
>taxi drive on the highway.
> This drive is extremely
>unsafe b/c the taxi is
>on a donut. Of
>course, the donut blows out.
> Colin will only pay
>half price. Facing charges
>being pressed, he drops his
>money on the counter.

I guess he had a reason he had to be upset, but getting into an argument with the cabbie and bringing the police into it is not the way to go about it. This is clearly the winner.

>3. This week, Chip and
>Kim take a taxi in
>the desert. Everything Chip
>says reveals that he knows
>he doesn't have enough money
>to pay the driver.
>At the end, Chip pays
>him only about half the
>bill, despite the driver doing
>nothing wrong.
>
>I'll go with Chip on this
>one. I wonder what
>would have happened if Chip
>tried to stiff the cab
>driver at the airport?

I can see how you can go with Chip because you think Colin is God. He really doesn't belong here because he handled the situation a lot better than Colin would have. Sure, he stiffed them, but was very gracious about it, and he only did it because he had no money left.

"RE: Worst behavior, Brandon and Nicole, Colin, or Chip?"
Posted by frisky on 08-25-04 at 10:44 PM
And if Chip planned to rip off the driver in advance, didn't Colin do the same thing?

He was already planting the seed when the first car pulled out to pass them. "If they pass us, I'm not paying you."


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"RE: Worst behavior, Brandon and Nicole, Colin, or Chip?"
Posted by bighair on 08-25-04 at 06:49 PM
Colin, hands down. Christie - run as fast as you can.

I don't think Chip knew for sure that he would not have enough money when he got into the cab, and when he came up short, he handled himself well. I'll even go as far as to say that I think that if the cabbie insisted on the full fare, Chip would have gotten it. (Borrowed from another team, or begging) Maybe he can earn himself some more money by giving Colin lessons in How To Be A Man.

What I don't understand is, why is Brandon included in this? Sure, Nicole exhibited some poor behavior with the bus, but what did Brandon do?

**defending bighairs everywhere**

"2"
Posted by Oscirus on 08-25-04 at 07:07 PM
Nicole was understanbly not trying to be ripped off

Colin- playing like you're a bada55 to the camera is just plain foolish.

chips while foolish wasn't intentional.

"Colin"
Posted by AugustGirl on 08-25-04 at 08:55 PM
Hands down. He is awful, despicable, surly, rude, mean, and just scary. Christie needs to run as fast and far away from him as she can.


Colin needs some serious anger management therapy.

"RE: Colin"
Posted by newsomewayne on 08-26-04 at 11:42 AM
Plus he has a nasty habit of forcing his way into a swoop where he's not wanted.


Does this count? I'm still not sure of the swoop rules.

"RE: Colin"
Posted by nailbone on 08-26-04 at 02:10 PM
Yep, a fine swoop.


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"RE: UGLY AMERICANS"
Posted by tokenbro on 08-31-04 at 10:40 PM
Colin makes me sick to be an american, typical white boy thinks everyone should bow to him. His trifling girlfriend makes all american women look like they have no spine. The two blonde sluts are completely so self absorbed in their so called beauty ,who do these average sleezes think they are.
The so called model couple completely made me laugh as she tripped over being stared at in india. Well look your a model and what do you think people do? Its not that she is so cute its you are the only white chick in the area and there is a camera following you so these folks may think your important.
The married couple, well I wish he would strap a pair of nuts on and play the game and stop being uncle remus.