Ashlee's clip isn't really that long. It's less than 2 mins. long, just like everybody else's. The CBS folks made a mistake.

Reading through the interviews, it appears that many, if not all of their previous pre-show confessionals were taken from this interview...

Wonder how and why the comments used previously were selected? Can we read anything into the selections, or were just the most interesting remarks lifted out? Were they selected to emphasize the character they will be edited as, or not?

Krautboy

BR, thank you kindly for posting the interviews for additional insight on this new cast.

I tend to pick out the more psychological aspects of their interview for some insight on these people and I tend to think KB that yes, these interview comments are to give an idea of their character.

Angie Jakusz

I am really silly and I have the freak factor working for me, I am actually a really horrible liar, so this is kinda gonna be a challenge for me to see if I can be a better liar.

I'm keeping note on her being a terrible liar. That being said "freak factor" may not necessarily work for her

Ashlee Ashby

I think that every women wants to be perceived as sexy. I think it will hinder me maybe with the women, they could see that as a threat to themselves. People would almost perceive me to be as loud and crazy and not have the morals and standards that I do

Uses a lot of "I think" in her interview. Also she seems to have a very conflicted way of behaving. Her "flirtatious" ways may go overboard

Bobby Jon Drinkard

I am not going to change, not going to change, definitely not going to push the envelope too hard because you scare people away, but you know for the most part be me, be who I am and definitely stick my hand out there, put forth a little effort to making alliances, I think sometimes people like to coast, and I am not going to coast. I am going to have people think that I am the biggest you know what, I am going to cuddle it up with the ladies

Bobby doesn't sound like he even knows what he wants to do. He is not going to change. Not push the envelope. Put forth a little effort with alliances. Not going to coast and so forth. His strategy appears all over the place which I don't think bodes well

Caryn Groedel

my parents would not accept anything less that, and that is what defined me from my youth. I think I am perceived as being really really really tough. I am going to go far in this game, that I can assure you.

Caryn may do okay but there may be a locking of horns that come from her that may cause her problems. She acknowledges she may be perceived as being tough and some of these younger people may not take kindly to this

Coby Archa

I became the funny guy out of sheer defense because being the gawky, gay kid on the playground you to had something going your way, so mine was my sense of humor. I think I am going to have attached myself to one or two people that I really like that really know everything that I am doing and I'll push us to the top and lie cheat and steal everybody else. I think my mouth can get me into a lot of trouble in this game to be quite honest, I hope that it doesn't always get me in trouble, I am too expressive but hopefully I won't go around screaming at people all day long.

Coby's biggest asset right now is the women. As stereotypical as this may sound, women love to be friends with gay men especially if there are other men who are puffing their chests out a lot. He may have problems with some of the men and it appears he may get dramatic but if he is safely insulated with the women, he is in a good position

Gregg Carey

I like to get to know people, I like flirting with people, I am pretty hard on myself, and it stresses me out a lot. It just eats me up on a day to day basis but I keep a lot of that to myself and it could be a cause for a lot of stress sometimes.

He may be his own worse enemy considering he acknowledges he has a good life yet is hard on himself. I tend to think there will be other young men out there who may ruffle more feathers than himself and it appears he may be a true asset to his tribe for competition purposes

Ian Rosenberger

I think this game will come natural to me, being outside is something that I am used to being with folks and people. I love to flirt and that is going to be a big part of the game. I try to be as upfront as possible. Underneath I am pretty competitive.

He may be a natural at this game. He appears to be someone both chest puffing men and ladies will like and all age groups as well.

Ibrehem Rahman

I think I am a fairly interesting person and I think that I thought I would be a pretty good competitor, or at least I was able persuade them to think so. I like to laugh, I don't like to be serious all the time. I get a little over passionate, over zealous, if I really want to get something done, I can kinda be a little tough on people, I have never been a big camper but I don't think it will be a problem for me.

Another person with a lot of "I think" which I have always found interesting in determining the type of person they are. I don't know how sure of himself he is nor do I think socially he will do really well. Again, however, in the beginning you tend to keep those who will assist you in winning immunity but I don't know socially how he will fare later on

James Miller

I am ******** redneck, damn right, I am come here to steal the show. I am a hard talker, I am head strong, people are going to be scared at first, but accept me. So yea, they are going to think that I am dumb and I am idiot.

This man is there purely for television purposes. I cannot fathom that he will not grate on everyone's nerves. There are those who can get away with this type of persona and those who can't. My instinct tells me he can't

Janu Tornell

Face it, sex sells, we live in a country that sex is very open and in your face. Part of my strategy, I kinda know, I know that I won't be the leader, the know it all, because I am not the know it all, I don't do that in life anyway. I am not here to make friends, I know it's been said before, but I didn't come all the way to make friends, I came here to win a million dollars and to be the showgirl turned Survivor.

Janu's strategy entails not making friends and not the leader. I'm not sure what Janu is planning to do however part of this game is social adaptibility and I'm not convinced that Janu will be able to not take the show girl off the island

Jeff Wilson

I have a decent amount of experience with certain things that could help me out on the island, not nature-wise, just being outdoors. I can guarantee you that I will work harder for the money than anybody.

Jeff has that coasting quality that should fare well for him but I don't necessarily know that he has that edge to win. He, like Gregg seem to me that they will do fairly well but somehow not succeed in the end

Jennifer Lyon

I plan on flirting a lot with the guys but also trying to make good friends with the girls too because that could be really difficult and that probably going to be my hardest thing and you know, just making a good, strong alliance that will help carry me to the end.

Jennifer acknowledges that flirting is fine but don't allow it to alienate the women. Some females cannot do this. She is aware that she needs to be friends with the women as well so I will give her some "thumbs up" for that recognition as it will serve her well

Jolanda Jones

I have a lot of athletic accomplishments, a lot of academic accomplishments, a lot of civic accomplishments, and I just think it's a unique combination. As a criminal defense lawyer, when I pick juries I've gotta figure out how to read people, especially when I cross examine witnesses and figure out their weaknesses are and exploit them and make sure the whole world sees it.

While Jolanda has everything it takes to be on that island, I have worries about her personality. She is obviously physically a powerhouse, her occupation as an attorney (criminal defense) requires much passion but this may border on arrogance. Jolanda may need to watch herself carefully

Jonathan Libby

I am pretty upbeat about everything, as far as spending time with my family, and stuff like that, There's no ice with me to break, there is no breaking the ice. I take that all right out of the spectrum, I make everybody feel as comfortable with me as possible. I think I am going to play the game, just be nice to everyone, try not to make a lot of enemies, try not to burn a lot of bridges right off the bat. I think I am good at reading people and I good at manipulating, but I am not really a cruel person.

Another one that I feel may become friends with Jeff and Gregg. Jonathon appears to want to play the game but I don't know if he is "evil" enough to do so. He says he is not cruel but good at manipulating but will be nice to everyone, not make enemies. I think this may be a test for him if he will be able to do what is required of him

Katie Gallagher

I have always been a little bit like a class clown. There's never been anyone like me on Survivor ever, there's never been a funny female. I work pretty well under stress but I also get narcolepsy when things are overwhelming. I don't think they realize how raunchy I can be, I just say things to shock people. I am manipulative, outgoing, flexible, compassionate, sneaky, and I think that plays into my strategy, because that is my strategy, to be myself cause all of those attributes can win you the game, that is why I am perfect for this game.

Katie may be the life of the party at home but unfortunately (and I said this before) funny females are not as accepted as funny males. Funny females are "obnoxious" With the abundance of other young women, she may be an early casualty of the younger sect. It strictly depends on how well she can keep the "humor" in check

Kimberly Mullen

I am able to bite my tongue when necessary, Unless I can get a boy to fall in my love with me, and use that to my advantage, then my luck is probably a factor because there are some hot boys here. I was always a tomboy so I have made a really big effort in the past couple of years to work on my female relationships and be more of the chick that can talk with the girls, I am always the person for some reason that people gossip to and they tell me all their issues so I think that will definitely play to my advantage.

Kimberly should hope that her efforts recently in working with females is sound because that could be her biggest problem. She is counting on her appearance and again, there may be a lot of cattiness on this island that we haven't seen yet.

Stephenie LaGrossa
I am just going to work hard, be myself, be outgoing, value other people's opinions and give other people mine's, and go from there. People think that I am the girl next door that you know which is a nice thing, but they realize I am very , I am a little nutty, a little crazy, I am not so calm and crazy.

Stephanie, as stated earlier, seems to have that Shawna persona to me. I think she will have a good equilibrium with all the men and the women much like Ian may have. Her discussion of her craziness sounds like typical fare we get as opposed to her character being one that goes off the charts

Tom Westman
I think it is a good thing to be a 40 year old guy playing this game because you are not seen as a physical threat like the 25 year old guy who spends all his time in the gym and you are not seen as a liability to your tribe early on as maybe an older guy would be.

Tom sounds like all things wonderful yet he has his age against him. I do think he would make that perfect older person that gets far in the game but it truly depends on how the younger people are thinking.

Wanda Shirk

I have always wanted to be a genuinely good person in every way, character, hard work. Life has been often difficult for me. I think I am the kind of person that people will respect for who I am, wisdom that I bring I hope, wisdom and fun that I bring to my tribe.

This interview did not really raise my hopes for this lady. In Thailand, she would have stayed but with the mechanics of this season it is virtually an impossibility. I anticipate she will try TOO hard and put people off immediately

Willard Smith

I don't care if I win this thing or not, I've already lost 35 pounds, got back in shape, and I'll soon be a non-smoker. So I'm here to have fun, at other people's expense. I'm just here, really, to have a good time. I don't need the million dollars. I'm here to last as long as I can.

Willard's motiviation is obviously not winning. Regardless of his intention to lie about his occupation, it is clear that he is there to have fun and I don't think anyone would have issue booting him off.

LAST EDITED ON 02-02-05 AT 06:14 PM (EST)

Here are the video transcripts with the comments selected for the pre-show confessionals/promos in bold. It's interesting to see them in context...

Angie Jakusz

I work in a bar that you know the beer and the shot kind, none of that chi-chi fancy cocktail nonsense you know. People are like, what's a good drink, a Budweiser draft. What do you mean what's a good drink? I am really silly and I have the freak factor working for me, I stick out, like I am the only woman who has ever looked like this on Survivor. I am a hard worker, I'm a hard worker, very organized, you know, I don't leave a job until it is done and I think that will be one of my really strong points in terms of toughness. I don't know, I kinda sorta excited to see how diabolical but I do have the evil haha emotion down so I don't know if that will help me. I am actually a really horrible liar, so this is kinda gonna be a challenge for me to see if I can be a better liar.

Ashlee Ashby

I am very goal driven and I do have my hates and desires and that is priority most of the time. My sexuality, and being seen as a sex symbol, it's a good thing, of course it's a good thing. I think that every women wants to be perceived as sexy. I think it will hinder me maybe with the women, they could see that as a threat to themselves. I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ the Latter Day Saints. Being a member of my church has instilled me with the qualities of being dedicated and committed. People would almost perceive me to be as loud and crazy and not have the morals and standards that I do, they are astonished to believe that oh yea right, you're Mormon and you haven't had sex, and yet you have huge humongous breasts and dress sexy. I like to have a fun and I can have a good time, and I can accept different views and opinions and I am very open minded but that in no way will alter my own morals and views and standards. It's so hard for me to kiss a gorgeous guy and get all hot and heated and then tell him hold on and say stop, that's all we can do. I would describe myself as being very happy, flirtatious, and fun yet at the same time, I am very dedicated and stubborn.

Bobby Jon Drinkard

I am just a boy from Troy, Alabama and born and raised down there and raised on fishing ponds and hunting deer and catching catfish and you know getting in a truck and seeing how fast you can go and try to wreck it, I don't know. My plan has not changed from what I have been doing so far, it's gotten me this far. I am not going to change, not going to change, definitely not going to push the envelope too hard because you scare people away, but you know for the most part be me, be who I am and definitely stick my hand out there, put forth a little effort to making alliances, I think sometimes people like to coast, and I am not going to coast. These m60s are I got here are waiting for everyone to get a little piece of… I am a strong Christians a lot of the things that I do a lot of the ways that I act are from the Bible, that's the way I try to live my life. I don't always going to live like that, I am not going to get on this show and live like that. I am going to have people think that I am the biggest you know what, but you know what though, but they just gonna have to call me, because when I rest my head down to God and I have a little conversation, we get it squared and way and make it straight and the next the sun comes up and we keep on doing it. I am going to cuddle it up with the ladies cause I like to flirt but that's flirting is fun man, nothing wrong is flirting, just having a good time, you know look good, you know what's going on, it puts a smile on people's face.

Caryn Groedel

I would describe myself as lucky, hard working, ambitious and fun loving. I didn't have abusive parents, but they were very very strict. And we had to do everything just right, we had to be good at what we did, and we had to give 110%, my parents would not accept anything less that, and that is what defined me from my youth. And what defines me as an adult is having three daughters. I think I am perceived as being really really really tough. You know in my law profession, people say stay away from her, you don't want to try a case against her. But little do they know, that I have fears, and I cry, I am a softie. I think I am very persuasive, I've only lost two jury trials in my career and I think I am can be very persuasive. I think that being an attorney will help me in several ways. First of all because I have a keen insight into people which I have learned from being an attorney selecting jurors to be on my jury when I try a case, so the keen insight is one thing and also, the ability to persuade is another aspect of being an attorney. I am going to go far in this game, that I can assure you.

Coby Archa

I became the funny guy out of sheer defense because being the gawky, gay kid on the playground you to had something going your way, so mine was my sense of humor. I came out when I was 15, to my mom, who had a brother who actually died of AIDS so that's how the subject was approached, so it was very easy for me to come out quite honestly, and it has never been a problem, even when I was little though, preschool, people have always known I was a gay. Originally I was going to turn the girls on the boys, being the obvious gay guy thing to do. But through the process, I have learned a lot about myself. I've learned that I basically, I think I am going to have attached myself to one or two people that I really like that really know everything that I am doing and I'll push us to the top and lie cheat and steal everybody else. I spent some time in jail when I was young because as a troubled teenager but I think that will help me in the game to be honest because I know what it is like to be secluded and away from your family. There was also a time in my life where I was homeless, so I had to sleep in the streets for a little while, I know what it feels like to sleep in an alley, in a cardboard box and have a rat crawl on you. I think me being flamboyant is going to help me in the game, oooh it's going to help me. Because I am going to be down by the beach, braiding some girl's hair, sticking flowers in her hair, and all the jocks are gonna be up by the camp and they are gonna be like there is that fag playing with her hair but little do they know while I am over there braiding her hair, I am going to be plotting who will I be taking off next. So I definitely am going to use their prejudices against them in the game. I think my mouth can get me into a lot of trouble in this game to be quite honest, I hope that it doesn't always get me in trouble, I am sure moments where my mouth will shoot off and hopefully it will be at the right time so they won't hold it against . I will shoot my mouth, that's a given, I am too expressive but hopefully I won't go around screaming at people all day long.

Gregg Carey

I manage you know, several types of projects, everything from projects meeting with CEOS to help them find corporate objectives, help them find roadmaps or plans for three to five years, I also manage large scale global communication projects. I am an athlete, in addition growing up and playing sports, high school sports, I play college football (mumbles other sporting activities) and continuing that athletic endeavor with adventure racing. I am the type of guy from a personality perspective, I like to hang out with my family and friends I prefer a good dinner and good conversation over a loud night at the bar where you forget everything. I like quality time, one on one, I like to get to know people, I like flirting with people, I think from the outside I have had a good life, there is nothing I can really complain about good health, good family, done well on school, work. I am pretty hard on myself, and it stresses me out a lot. It just eats me up on a day to day basis but I keep a lot of that to myself and it could be a cause for a lot of stress sometimes.

Ian Rosenberger

Last year, I got to spend a year as a student government president at Penn state which was a blast. But I got a lot of applicable skills that I learned last year that will help me here, dealing with people, and learning what it means to have someone stagger in the back. I always said that I can talk a fat man out of his bag Doritos, you know what I mean. I think this game will come natural to me, being outside is something that I am used to being with folks and people, and learning the intricacies of community thought and group dynamics work into it, something that I have always loved to do. I love to flirt and that is going to be a big part of the game. Obviously not lying, cheating, and stealing is like not collecting the 200 dollars when you pass go in Monopoly. It's just part of it. You do what you can do to play a classic game, you do what you can to make sure you don't other things, you know when it comes down to it, everybody else is going to do it to you. I am probably the most competitive guy that I have ever met that nobody would know if they were talking to me. I kinda play it off as a happy go lucky dude. I try to be as upfront as possible. Underneath I am pretty competitive. It's just a matter of seeing what the tribes need, where do I need to go next, in order to get to the next level. I am going to be aggressive with it and use all the things that I have, I think time will tell, I am going to use what I have to get to the next round.

Ibrehem Rahman

I think I am a fairly interesting person and I think that I thought I would be a pretty good competitor, or at least I was able persuade them to think so. It's important to definitely feel the people out that you are in this game with because I guess you could say they have the power of the pen, and that could affect you winning the million. I think it is important to be able to keep some good standing with the people you are on the team with or you're playing the game with. It is important to be very very competitive and of course to be a little conniving, it is a game. I like to have fun, I like to laugh, I don't like to be serious all the time. I get a little over passionate, over zealous, if I really want to get something done, I can kinda be a little tough on people, I have never been a big camper but I don't think it will be a problem for me.

James Miller

I am ******** redneck, damn right, I am come here to steal the show. That's what I am here to do, take a million dollars and pay off some debts because I am a broke #####. A lot of people think rednecks are racists but we aint, it's the skinheads that are racists. We are the ones that just want to drink beer, get stoned and hang out with our wives and our kids that's all, that's all we wanna do. You know not drink with our kids of course, family guy, mow the lawn, smokes cigarettes, that's all we do. I am a hard talker, I am head strong, people are going to be scared at first, but accept me. I am going to be the first redneck to win a million dollars on this show. Characteristics of a real redneck: Got to be able to drink some beer. Got to be able to choose a back up? You got to have a wife that is a stripper. Your kids have to be able to mow the lawn before they are five years old. That's a fact. You have to drive a pickup truck that has a lot of miles on it, and it's gotta have a big ol dent on the hood. Your house, you in debt, you never own it rednecks rent, they don't buy, it's cheaper to rent, so they can be like gypsies and move around. They are going to think I am dumb, because most rednecks don't go to college, they just go to work at the steel mill and get drunk all the time. So yea, they are going to think that I am dumb and I am idiot. If I win a million dollars, first thing I am going to do with thatI am going to buy a nice spread, will fornicate with her, then we are going to go out pay for the tuitions, buy a few vehicles for the kids, they are going to need it when they get older because I will be broke again, buy me a new truck.

Janu Tornell

To be a Folies-Bergère showgirl, it's very exciting. I've been doing it for 9 1/2 years, fell into it by fluke, by accident, was not thinking of doing that. I am kinda of a legacy, my mother was a showgirl in Cuba. Left her island, traveled, ended up in Las Vegas in the rat pack years, however, I never thought of being a showgirl, it just kinda happened. When I tell people that I am showgirl, topless is one of the first questions that they want to know about. Face it, sex sells, we live in a country that sex is very open and in your face. However, there is a side of the world, United States, whatever country you may be in, that it's taboo. Part of my strategy, I kinda know, I know that I won't be the leader, the know it all, because I am not the know it all, I don't do that in life anyway. I won't be a bitchy one, #####, #####, #####, #####. I am not here to make friends, I know it's been said before, but I didn't come all the way to make friends, I came here to win a million dollars and to be the Vegas showgirl turned Survivor. This is what I am, so if I can be sexy and appeal to someone, then I am going to sex appeal everyone that I can.

Jeff Wilson

I have a decent amount of experience with certain things that could help me out on the island, not nature-wise, just being outdoors. I love to fish, I am always hiking, I am always outdoors. Being that I am 21, I think that may give other people a pretty bad disposition of me. Their impression of me is probably gonna be a little off. Whether I walk away the first guy voted off which won't happen or I win the million bucks, I want to get in the fire department. My life up to this point I would say has been a 10 on a scale of 1 to 10. I enjoy the way my whole life has gone, good and bad, they have all led up to very important things. Day to day, I am a personal trainer, I have very flexible hours, I have a lot of free time, I enjoy doing everything I enjoy doing, I have plenty of time to do whatever I want to do, and that keeps me happy everyday I wake up being happy. I think the biggest thing that surprises me about being a personal trainer is that people generally for the most part don't really care about their health. Some people do, and they get a personal trainer and that's them trying to take a step in the right direction, but for the most part, if you calculate the amount of people at the gym and the amount of people in your town, it's nowhere near. I'd say it's the most important part of living. Anything that I am fascinated with, anything I am intrigued with, I won't stop until I have it, or conquer it. I can guarantee you that I will work harder for the money than anybody.

Jennifer Lyon

I plan on flirting a lot with the guys but also trying to make good friends with the girls too because that could be really difficult and that probably going to be my hardest thing and you know, just making a good, strong alliance that will help carry me to the end. But I plan on helping everyone and being everyone's best friend. The nanny thing, I think I've used the analogy, it a lot like a tribe. You go into the tribe, this family, you try to make yourself useful, to this family and yea, you can get kicked off, it's very much like that: making relationships, being able to blend in, being able to succeed. My secret is going to be getting by on being well rounded, being able to find something in familiar, in common with each person. I will be underestimated, I don't think I look like I can sleep on the ground, and eat bugs if I have to, I don't think people will know that about me. I am a fighter and I grew up camping outdoors all the time, I'm going to hang in there until the very end. Being one of the more attractive people, it will be a challenge to just the right amount of flirting, and not doing it and stepping on other peoples' toes.

Jolanda Jones

I have a lot of athletic accomplishments, a lot of academic accomplishments, a lot of civic accomplishments, and I just think it's a unique combination. I was the oldest of the five siblings and I was responsible for caring for them, and I was looking for anything to keep me out of the house. And athletics was one of the ways I could stay out of the house longer. Turns out I was very good. I ended up winning (insert lots of awards). As a criminal defense lawyer, when I pick juries I've gotta figure out how to read people, especially when I cross examine witnesses and figure out their weaknesses are and exploit them and make sure the whole world sees it. My dad blew his brains out, I was in the room with him and that was one of the many bad things that happened to me. I was a year and a month, two of my dad's brothers committed suicide, so my grandmother has lost three kids to suicide. My 19 year old brother was murdered, shot 5 times, twice in the head, I got a brother in prison now, I've got a cousin in prison for murder, I got an aunt who was murdered, I've been shot at, I could continue for a good 20-30 minutes so the journey has been daunting.

Jonathan Libby

I overcame cancer this year, so that was a really challenging thing mentally, I think that is the biggest thing I have ever had to overcome in my life. At first it was probably for the first month, I was waking up everyday, telling myself, oh my god, I am 23 and I have cancer. After I finally was treated and everything and pretty much cured, it was one of those things I would wake up and put a smile on my face - I am 23 and overcame cancer that was a big step and a real positive thing and probably the best motivational thing, and that runs through my mind nonstop and now it's a big part of my life now. It makes you kind of stop and think and life is precious, you got to cherish everything, and you really can't take too many things for granite, I really don't take things for granite, I am pretty upbeat about everything, as far as spending time with my family, and stuff like that, and no one is invincible and life can be taken away from you at any moment. There's no ice with me to break, there is no breaking the ice. I take that all right out of the spectrum, I make everybody feel as comfortable with me as possible. I think I am going to play the game, just be nice to everyone, try not to make a lot of enemies, try not to burn a lot of bridges right off the bat. I think I am good at reading people and I good at manipulating, but I am not really a cruel person.

Katie Gallagher

I was a rebellious teenager, and my parents divorced when I was 11, so that was a rough time anyway and we moved so my way of fitting in was to be bad, but I have always been a little bit like a class clown. There's never been anyone like me on Survivor ever, there's never been a funny female. I know that all these people that are here are just a dynamic, interesting, diverse group of people. And that's a lot of material for Katie to handle, and I hate when people talk in third person, Katie hates that. I work pretty well under stress but I also get narcolepsy when things are overwhelming. I don't think they realize how raunchy I can be, I just say things to shock people. I am manipulative, outgoing, flexible, compassionate, sneaky, and I think that plays into my strategy, because that is my strategy, to be myself cause all of those attributes can win you the game, that is why I am perfect for this game. I am not trying to win a million dollars, I am just here to lose some weight so once I hit my goal weight I can be gone, but please don't kick me off before my goal weight.

Kimberly Mullen

I am going to use my political knowledge as far as, I think my political knowledge and international relations is going to play a big factor, and how people will form up and the position you take within in the alliance. I am able to bite my tongue when necessary, I've started doing this probably in the past couple of years because I used to never be this type of person and that's a good thing, because I can brush things off quite easily instead of wasting my energy on people I don't have to. I am spontaneous and adaptable and it's very hard to throw me off course from what I want to get. There is always the kind of nerdy tomboy growing up, and so I worked so hard in college to try and be the cool girl and but I am still just a nerdy tomboy. Unless I can get a boy to fall in my love with me, and use that to my advantage, then my luck is probably a factor because there are some hot boys here. I was always a tomboy so I have made a really big effort in the past couple of years to work on my female relationships and be more of the chick that can talk with the girls, I am always the person for some reason that people gossip to and they tell me all their issues so I think that will definitely play to my advantage.

Stephenie LaGrossa

I grew up with four older brothers, and a mom and a dad, so that was kind of tough, it's had like five fathers growing up. Instead of playing with Barbies, I was always outside playing sports, I was either the goalie, or the pitcher or the quarterback. Growing up with four older brothers has definitely helped shaped the person that I am. Instead of playing with Barbies and putting on makeup, I was outside playing sports with the boys. I am a lot of fun, and I think I am going to bring fun to the game in the stressful environment. I am just going to work hard, be myself, be outgoing, value other people's opinions and give other people mine's, and go from there. People think that I am the girl next door that you know which is a nice thing, but they realize I am very , I am a little nutty, a little crazy, I am not so calm and crazy. I have a boyfriend, he doesn't like when I get crazy, but I get crazy anyway.

Tom Westman

The most rewarding job you can ever have, I went to it as most of us guys did, because my dad is on the job too, it tends to be a family business, it's not because your parents are telling you to get rich doing this, but because they have had a rich life doing, it's just a rewarding experience, a lot of time at home with your family. I like my job. I like my job, there's no two fires that are the same, there's no two circumstances in this game that are the same. We don't know what the format is going to be, what the tribe will be, everything could be different, you can't when the curve ball gets thrown, you can't stand there when it goes by, you have to react to it. I like the game, I like the kidding around in the firehouse, the fun and games and the fooling around, there's that game to be played out here, I mean there is some depravation with the food and the conditions, but you are playing a game. I think it is a good thing to be a 40 year old guy playing this game because you are not seen as a physical threat like the 25 year old guy who spends all his time in the gym and you are not seen as a liability to your tribe early on as maybe an older guy would be.

Wanda Shirk

I have always wanted to be a genuinely good person in every way, character, hard work. Life has been often difficult for me. We had some financially difficult times. My husband took a business and sold it and got into another where he thought he was going to be would be the vice president of a company and it went bankrupt. We had a lot of hard times. There was a day when the sheriff at the county came to our house and said, I hate to do this, but you haven't made your mortgage payment in six months so we have to take the house back. I think I am the kind of person that people will respect for who I am, wisdom that I bring I hope, wisdom and fun that I bring to my tribe. I want to ask questions and listen and listen and listen and show to each person on my tribe that I care about them. I want to see the good things in them but then I want to find out who has the most good things in them, the most character. I am going to almost have to be the big sister that everybody loves, maybe even the mother, although I am trying really hard to camouflage my age with the hair dye and things like that. So I hope I don't look like some old lady.::A brief rap::

Willard Smith

I really started this, uh, as a weight loss program. And the joke got out of hand. And here I am. And now, I'm going to use it as a smoking sustention program. I don't care if I win this thing or not, I've already lost 35 pounds, got back in shape, and I'll soon be a non-smoker. So I'm here to have fun, at other people's expense. I'm not sure if there going to be advantages that come from being a lawyer, or there advantages that come from being me. I'm a good problem solver, I'm analytical, I can generally tell when people are being untruthful, and I persuade people for a living, that's what lawyers do. I'm just here, really, to have a good time. And to stop smoking. I don't need the million dollars. I'm here to last as long as I can. I'm certainly not going to let people know I'm a lawyer. Uh, I have, uh... there's an old game called "Dungeons and Dragons", you roll the dice and create a character. I have created one. I'm going to try to be non-threatening, helpful, likable, uh, until I get rid of all the people that have to be gotten rid of.

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Krautboy

Thanks BR and KB for transcribing these interviews. I found them pretty insightful.

As this season seems to contain alot of beautiful, over-achievers, probably type-A personalities I tried to initially put them into some order as to most likely to leave the game early, early post-merge, and late game.

I am convinced that Wanda and Ashlee will be the first two eliminated. Unfortunately for Wanda I think that the fact that she is the oldest, probably most un-athletic female will do her in, which is unfortunate, as she does seem to be an interesting character. As for Ashlee, as I've stated before, I just think she's a walking oxymoron....her interview is very helter skelter and I don't believe she looks to have any real assets or resources to bring to the tribe. I think she'll be out before she's started, at any rate, she'll be an early boot.

Bobby Jon definately could be put into the same catagory as Ashlee, however, his physical abilities could keep him in the game a bit longer, I'm sure he would be an asset to the tribe as long as the challenges are physical and not mental. Some people may write him off as not too threatening a competitor which could also buy him some time(in other words there may be far more threatening people out there to target in the beginning). IMO, he could last to the merge, but definately he'll be gone around then.

I most definately thought that James was trying to overact, and I think VS has pegged him correctly. He's a daw, and will not last too long. I can't see him bonding well with too many people out there. I think he's likely to go earlier, rather than later.

Janu, in my opinion, does'nt have much to bring to the tribal table. I think she'll be an early boot. Don't think she'll be able to "sex appeal everyone"....she's too much of an individual and I don't see her bonding too well with the younger women, and the men have younger, fresher females to woo.

I was disappointed in Willard's motivation to be on the show, yet I think there will be more to him as he plays the game. I think he could be a good resource for his tribe, hopefully he can get on a very physical tribe that can win the challenges, if he is, he could last through the merge. If he gets on a weaker tribe, he could be an earlier boot. I love the fact that he's telling them that he's a postal worker! He's definately taking the whole experience as a game.

Ibrehem strikes me as an under the radar, strong man that could be a real asset to the tribe early on. Come merge time, he'll be perceived as more of a threat and therefore a target. I think he'll go around merge time.

Katie is going to be most definately a character. However, she seems a bit sarcastic to me and although she appears non-threatening, I am thinking that her mouth might just be too much for alot of these people. As one of the lesser physically fit people out there I don't see too many assets that she can bring to her tribe. She could fly under the radar some and coast being not one of the more threatening peeps there, yet I think her mouth will make her an earlier target.

Jolanda is going to be a tremendous asset to the tribe in the early game with her supreme physical prowess. She's also a smart woman and may be a strong problem solver. I look for her to be a real target come merge time, as she could be unstoppable in land challenges.....she may be nothing to worry about however, in the water challenges. She could be a very strong ally.

At first I was thinking that Angie would be an early boot just by virtue of her individuality. However, I really liked what she had to say in her interview. She does not seem to be the most physically adept woman, yet she is young. Who knows, she could be more physically fit than some of the babes on the show.
If she's as organized and as hard of a worker as she claims, she could be a real asset to the tribe. As a bartender I would definately think she does indeed have some social skills. I would love to see her make it to the end game as I would love to see her diabolical side come to fruition....could be very entertaining! It will be interesting to see who she is able to bond with, and who she'll align with...could be any of them. But, I am worried that she will go sooner rather than later as she too is a real individual in a game with beautiful, super-achievers. If she is not an asset to her tribe in the challenges, she's toast.

I get the impression that Caryn is a bit too "severe" for this game. She's in good physically fit shape, she's a mother, but she is a driven attorney. I think she may end up coming across as too directive for most of the people out here and may be perceived as threatening. I suspect she will not make the merge.

Kimberly is a very attractive and intelligent woman, but I question how much personality she has. She's a tomboy, she's "hot", yet she's the one that the girls all share their gossip with??? She's not impressive. I think she'll be a coat tail rider, and I don't think that she will see the end game. She could be perceived as threatening from the other women.

Jeff, IMO, is not going to last too long in the game. He seems very physically fit, which will probably serve him well, until the merge draws near. He is very young, and does give off "leader" vibes from the body language he exhibits. When he speaks of being a physical trainer, I get the impression that he is indeed a bit judgemental of others...this spells trouble for me. I found it interesting that he wants to be a fire-fighter and this is who we have speculated Tom hooks up with....yet, we propose that it is Jeff that "leads" Tom around and not the other way around. IMO, he may come across as an alpha male, that others will take offense to, as he is so young and inexperienced and perhaps a bit judgemental. From comments that I have read over at Sucks regarding Tom's comments post game, Jeff may hook up with/bond with more women than men. Look for him to get a few women that will try to ride his coattails.

First appearances considered, I did not put too much stock into Jennifer. Yet, after reading her interview I think that I may have underestimated her as well. I do think that she will be underestimated. Yet, judging by her reaction to the early eliminations, she may let her emotions lead her in this game, and we all know that that is a death sentence in Survivor. She could be the "Dolly" in this season. I see her as an earlier boot or perhaps a premerge boot. She will definately be an under the radar player.

Tom may make it to the merge, but somewhere post merge he could get booted. I look at him as an asset to the tribe in the beginning and through merge. He is a father, and holds a very well respected job. I think people will feel safe with him around. From what I have read, it may be that he puts more stock into aligning with the men(seems natural as I think firefighters are part of a "brotherhood"), and that may be his downfall toward the end game.

Coby looks to be a very entertaining character, and I loved his interview. I do think he'll bond with the women, more than the guys, but I could see him getting along with some of them anyway. I don't think he'll appear too threatening with alot of the men, so I think he'll make it well past merge. I can't wait to hear what his take on things will be! I think he'll go pretty far. His mouth could be his demise...I look to him to be a sort of "Sandra" like player...tries to stay under the radar, not afraid to speak their piece, and will write anyone's name down as long as it's not their own....

Gregg is a very strong, intelligent male that I think alot of the females may like, and alot of the men may respect. I don't think he'll be a forceful alpha leader, yet more of a reserved one. He will be a great asset to the tribe, and I think he'll make it to the end game. I think that there will be much more "in your face" alpha types, that are just as physical as Gregg, who will be perceived as more threatening. He's a contender, IMO

I think that Jonathan could make it past merger in this game. He's physically an asset and again, I think, at this point, that there will be more imposing alpha types to knock off at merge time, than him. Having beaten cancer, alot of the others could empathize with him. I think he could last a while in this game.

Ian, I think is going to be a really interesting character, and I think he could go very far. The burly boys may perceive him as threatening as he'll probably be able to bond with most of the peeps out there. I don't think he'll be an aggressive alpha leader, and I really think he's got a shot of making the end game.

Stephanie is also an early favorite of mine. I think she also has what it takes to get to the end game. If she aligns with the right people, she could go far. I think she'll have the ability to get along with most of the girls, while being able to bond with the men as well. Her physical competence will serve her very well, and she is sure to make it well past the merge. She'll be classified as an under the radar girl, as I don't think that she'll force her opinions on the group.

Of course there is so much more to this game that is unforeseen to us. Such as the twists that lead to eliminations, how the tribes are divided, and who they all align with. I'm ready for the game to begin!

LAST EDITED ON 02-03-05 AT 04:10 PM (EST)

Wow. On the whole, a very unimpressive lot in terms of game savvy (at least as presented in these introductory interviews). If that was the best material from those interviews, it's going to be another season where game logic won't be a prime, secondary, or even tertiary consideration in weekly boot predictions.

Individually...

Angie strikes me as scatter-brained. She wants to be a freak, but she also wants you to know that she's borderline OCD. I'd say this is not a good combination for longevity. She's likely to alienate some with her appearance. If she alienates others with her supposed work ethic and "evil side", she's going to be spending a lot of time by the pool at the Loser Lodge. In order for her to be successful, she's going to need some luck.

Best case scenario: Mid-jury. Most likely: Pre-jury.

Ashlee is a walking contradiction. I don't think she knows who she is. The first boot rumors sound about right with her. There's a reason she got 3 minutes, and everyone else got about 1:30.

Best case scenario: Pre-jury. Most likely: One of the 1st two booted.

Bobby Jon is not long for this game. If he makes it as far as John K. it'll be a miracle. He's nice enough, but he doesn't have an ounce of perception, deception, or awareness outside of his mirror.

Best case scenario: Merge. Most likely: Pre-jury.

Caryn is way too intense to live up to her prediction of going far in this game. I'll bet she's a hell of a lawyer, but she comes off as intimidating. That, combined with the fact that she's got an age disadvantage, will work against her. She'd like to be perceived as motherly. Yeah, so did Patricia in S4. Didn't work out too well for her, either.

What she does have working for her is the tradition of older women who make it past Day 9 generally making it to the last days. Still, I think she's more of a Trish than a Kathy.

Best case scenario: Final 4. Most likely: Pre-jury, shortly before the merge.

Coby has good instincts, but he's also a tirade away from getting booted. He's likely to bond with the women on his tribe, a la Brandon, but he doesn't have a lot to work with, at least on first glance. If he can lead them by the nose, and minimize the cattiness, I like his chances with this bunch. If he winds up with duds like Jenny, Ashlee, and Janu, he'll be lucky to make it as far as Brandon did.

Best case scenario: Final 4. Most likely: Mid-jury

Gregg is the fullest of himself among a group narcissists. He may be Burton or Brian, but he also might be Hunter or John P. It remains to be seen. I didn't like what I saw, which is a guy who thinks he's one of the guys, but really thinks he's better than everyone else. This group of guys doesn't look too collectively bright, so he might be able to do well with them.

Weight loss spoilers indicate he might be more of a Burton than a Hunter.

Best case scenario: Winner. Most likely: Late jury.

Ian I can't really get a grasp on. Is he really that perceptive, or is he one of those guys who did Model UN and think they understand the world of group dynamics, only to be thrown to the wolves? He doesn't look outwardly threatening, but at the same time, among these giants, he comes off as a Skinny Ryan type. Hopefully he's not, because if he's perceived as physically weak, it'll take more than diplomatic method to get him to the merge. I'm betting he's stronger than he might appear.

Best case scenario: Winner. Most likely: Mid-jury

Ibrehem might do better than all the other strongmen of this season. He gives off some Osten vibes, but I think he's more grounded. He may be too grounded. He doesn't strike me as a "think outside the box" kind of guy. That will work against him, because when this game becomes individual, he'll stick out. I don't believe he has the skills to get the target off of him.

Best case scenario: Final 4. Most likely: Early jury.

James is being presented as the next Fairplay/Robfaddah. I don't think he's that smart. I do think he'll be a big deal in this game, in terms of story, though. He's likely to have a Rory-esque story arc. For several episodes it'll be all about him, and then, like a forest fire, he'll burn himself out. If I thought for one second that he had more than one speed, I'd give him a shot, but I don't. I think he'll be loud the entire time he's on this show.

Best case scenario: Early jury. Most likely: Pre-jury.

Janu didn't impress me. I think she thinks she's not a primadonna, yet I'd be willing to bet that she is. She doesn't seem to have a plan, and that's never good. She might get carried a bit, but I think she's too much of a cold fish to endear herself to any group. I could be wrong, but that's the vibe I get from her.

Best case scenario: Early jury. Most likely: Pre-jury.

Jeff is a little much, isn't he? He wants so badly to impress people. If he can pull an Ethan, and find a Lex to be the Batman to his Robin, he might go deep into the game. Otherwise? He's gonna be the guy going fishing when everyone else is talking strategy. That means you're out of the loop, and you don't want to be out of the loop. Providers don't win this game (See Boneham, Rupert). People who know what's going on in the tribe win this game. I don't think he's that type of guy.

Best case scenario: Jury. Most likely: Pre-jury.

Jenny wants us to think she's stronger than she looks. She better be. She strikes me as meek, and while that will certainly get you to a certain point in the game, it won't win it for you. You have to be prepared to backstab or get your hands dirty. I'd be surprised if she could really do that.

Best case scenario: Mid-jury. Most likely: Mid-jury.

Jolanda scares the bejeezus out of me. Probst says she has a charming side to go with the intimidation. If she does, and can con these fools into allowing her to make the merge, she's got the best chance of all of them to go on a Colby-esque challenge run. If she doesn't freak them out (like Joanna did) or come off as a HUGE physical threat (like about a dozen former players), she could win this thing.

Best case scenario: Winner. Most likely: Merge.

Jonathan is, like Probst said, a darkhorse. I like his laid back attitude with this crew. He's got the physique to pull that attitude off without too many repercussions. If he lays low, he could be the last stud standing. The thing I wonder about is his ability to politic when it gets nasty...and it will get nasty.

Best case scenario: Final 4. Most likely: Jury.

Katie is comedian without an audience. Personally, I think she'd be a cool person to hang out with. Unfortunately, she's stuck with a group of straight-laced muscle freaks. If she winds up on the same tribe as Coby, it would work to her benefit (and probably the audience's, as they might be the comic relief this show desperately needs). The information that she came back without losing much weight doesn't sound like it worked out that way, though. They probably kicked her off before she reached her goal weight.

Best case scenario: Jury. Most likely: Pre-jury.

Kim is like Ian, in my mind. Is she really politically savvy, or is she an academic pretender? She has the potential to be quite effective in this game. She's good looking, gets along well with men, and understands that she has to listen more than speak. I like her chances, as long as she doesn't piss the women off.

Best case scenario: Winner. Most likely: Final 4.

Stephenie is a jury lock, imo. Her non-threatening exterior hides her competitiveness and athletic ability. She's about the only player I have a very good feeling about this season. I think that bare minimum she makes the jury, and quite likely is in the mix at the end. She's young enough to fit in with the majority. She grew up in a house of athletic men, so she'll be able to live with the model-types and all the machismo that brings. She may even be adept at stroking the occasional ego.

Best case scenario: Winner. Most likely: Final 4.

Tom is too good and wholesome for this mess. He seems like a Savage or Sarge, in that he's all about team, team, team. That's all well and good at the beginning, but it'll be your undoing around the merge. I'd like to say I think he's got a shot, but I don't really think he does.

Best case scenario: Mid-jury. Most likely: Merge.

Wanda is a fish out of water here. I just don't see how she escapes a triple-boot first episode. She's got spirit, and probably a work ethic to match, but it won't be enough when first impressions are all they're really going by at that stage.

Best case scenario: Pre-jury. Most likely: One of 1st two boots.

Willard is a guy I'd like to see do well. He's playing with house money in this game. If he doesn't stick out (and walking around camp in his undies is NOT helping that cause), endears himself as the tribal elder, and doesn't fall on his face in a the physical challenges, he has a shot. I'd like to see him get a chance to go far in this game. I don't think he will, though. I think he's stuck with a group that won't value him. Shame.

Best case scenario: Late jury. Most likely: Pre-jury.

To sum up...

Likely to be Day-Tripping from the Loser Lodge: Ashlee, Wanda, Bobby Jon, Angie, Jeff, Katie, James, Janu, Caryn, and Willard.

Might Be Tripping, Might Be Scowling: Tom and Jolanda

Likely to Be Scowling from the Jury Box: Coby, Ibrehem, Jenny, Jonathan, Kim, Stephenie, Ian, and Gregg

Fester

Firstly VS, I want to say that it never ceases to amaze me how perceptive you are. How do you do it?

Basically the only conclusion that I can come to so far is that MB obviously wants the younger, stronger players to survive for a significantly longer time than they have in past seasons. I have read so many articles/intervies etc. where both Probst and MB apparently say that having a whole heap of older players post-merge is boring (which is what has happened since the survivors realised that keeping physical threats around isn't a wise idea). What I don't understand is why MB would think having a whole heap of physically strong, alpha-male (or alpha-female) types would be any more interesting. I don't think MB is stupid enough to think that having a final game play made up of ridiculously similar players would be interesting, thus I think he is aiming to achiever a wider range of player types post merge - THUS the predominantly young cast: Physically strong players will ALWAYS be targets (often one strong player will target another, to eradicate their competition), but with so many strong players this season, there won't be enough time to get rid of them all before the merge happens.

Therefore I don't think Angie, Willard or James (or whoever else doesn't fit the 'strong' bill) are in alot of danger. The only player I am ready to write off is Wanda - no*chance*in*hell.

THen again, my idea will probably be proved wrong within the first ten seconds of the first episode. But I just hope MB had more sense than to think that a merged-tribe made up of mainly strong players will be more interesting.

I am overwhelmed by the sheer volume of self-proclaimed "flirts" in this season. The only time this worked before was S6. Do you think we'll see an Amazon redux, or do you think all of these personalities will collide when they realize they are not the only ones who showed up with this strategy?

The best case scenarios for the older people will be that all of these younger ones are SO much like each other that they will each themselves alive. This could bode very well for players like Stephanie and Ian who are there to play strong and for the right reasons.

I just watched it (and can't wait for the vidcaps)

The first segment featuring the new cast was just Wanda, Tom, and Ian. Wanda's inclusion completely seals her fate, IMO. Tom, is being played as the hero "in danger" and will at least be the first half "star." Ian's inclusion was odd IMO.

Everyone else got their introduction later in the show in one big segment.

Did anyone else see it tonight?

LAST EDITED ON 02-07-05 AT 05:14 PM (EST)

LAST EDITED ON 02-07-05 AT 04:55 PM (EST)

After watching the TV guide special, you get a little bit more familiar with some of these people. Alot of perceptions that have been "speculated" out there seem true after you watch this. (It is on several more times before Survivor premieres.)
But there are several factors riding on S10. First, you kind of get the impression that they are "overselling" this survivor. Which can be read a couple of different ways. It could be playing into the "survivor changes" or alot of the characters could be "limp noodles"
I do think that Jeffs comments on the castaways are mixed. Some are completely accurate with the role they will carry and others are misleading intentionally, but the trick is, which ones are which.

Ibreham- I think he lacks true charisma. He gives off a "stale" impression. Looks or not, he just does not throw off alot of personality.

Ashlee- She comes off as uncomfortable. She wants to believe she can use the sex appeal, but she does not seem completely comfortable speaking in front of the camera and you get the impression of "waxed fruit" Probable early boot.

Bobby Jon- Have you heard dumber than a box of rocks. Or at least he comes off that way. I understand that James is competing to be the big redneck, but I think BJ is competing for biggest, slow-talking hunk. It is good he was blessed with looks.

Caryn- Bossy, probably picky,maybe boring personality. I do not see her lasting very long. Her age is not really going to come into play. Her personality will though.

Angie- I think she will end up being the true wildcard. She won't be seen as a threat to the females, and the males may find her an ally as far as the male/female part of it goes. I think she will be one that everyone sees as the "underdog"

Coby- May be another wildcard. Depends on his mouth. He has a strong attitude. Could be seen as one that could swing from "alliance to alliance" If he is a good strategist, he may survive for awhile. He does have a mouth on him though.

Greg- He is a "true hottie" because he is not so focused on himself, yet he is good-looking and yet he does not seem to want to over-emphasize it, which can make him more "sexy" especially to the women. Which may get him farther into the game.

Jennifer- Jeff is portraying her as tougher than she looks.
I get the impression that she is stuck on herself, but maybe she will show us different. I think he is trying to sell her. Possibly she has trouble not making enemies. I do not see her as one of the physically strong threats as far as the other women go since they have Jolanda,Stephanie and Caryn.

Jonathon-He is another one that comes off as sexy because he may not even be aware of it. This can work for him. He is a player that comes there understanding the meaning of surviving.

Kate- She was one I planned on rooting for. Still probably will. Reminds me in personality of Kelli Wigglesworth. She could make it far if she keeps control of her chattering.

Kim- She is intelligent and even though she is aware of her looks, she seems to have a strategy. She does not throw off diva vibes initially. I don't think her appearance is what will keep her going. I think there is more to her than that.

Willard- While older, he may get into the game with strategy and while his initial read is one of a little bit of arrogance, he has some weird sense of humor. Gray undies. I am not positive about what I think of him.

Wanda- I don't think her age will be a factor in getting her voted off, as much as her weirdness. And maybe the fact she looks a little too much like John Kerry. They may be afraid they can never take her word for anything. And then again, they may find her interesting because she had like a jumpstart in her life at forty. Of course, that singing is a wee bit "annoying"
Kerry's lookalike may do what he was unable to. Receive an anonymous vote.

Jeff- Too arrogant. His body is great. His ego is certainly not hurting. His personality, well, his personality,
ummmmmmmmmmmm, a little on the Joel side. Possibly, he is a Casanova in his own mind.

Janu- Diva. The thing is right off the bat, I don't like her, but she has one thing people may not realize. Alot of upper body strength. Why do I say this? She is a dancer, but she is a Las Vegas Showgirl that wears big,awkward and sometimes heavy headdresses. She is probably one of the two or three strongest women on Palau. The problem with her is going to be the fact that she is used to a certain lifestyle back home in the town where what goes on, stays there. This could mean she is not going to deal with her castaway days as seemingly easy as she says she will. We will see.

Jolanda- Strongest woman out there. Has in common with Janu the fact she is one of the strongest women and guess what?She is not one of the "young ones" She will probably adapt better than Janu and she will either be able to bond with Janu in some way or despise her. Her bigger problem will be with people perceiving her as a threat.

Stephanie- She is both competitive and cocky. She is probably the "hottest" girl on the island. She is also athletic and is one of the stronger women out there. If she plays the game like I think she might, she will go far. I think she is a Jerri Manthey/Alicia/Sondra cross. Sexy, yet competitive and fit and possibly a little slick.

Tom- Being a firefighter will give him a competitive edge on fear. Which will make him take bigger risks to give his all on challenges. He seems like a good guy. He is a grounded guy, whom if people would listen to, could take himself and theirselves far into the game. He seems like one that would be a good team player with Gregg,Kim,Jolanda,Katie,Caryn,Jonathon,Stephanie and maybe Willard. We will see how many of those end up together.

James- Please, please, please. Make him an early boot.
He is Hee Haw meets Johnny Knoxville gone haywire. He thinks following a persona of the "typical show redneck" means crossing
Big Tom with Jon Dalton. Then taking LSD. No thanks. Castaways do not punish us long.

Angie- Initially, I was not a fan. Still not, but she is looking to play the game. She could surprise the heck out of them. If she plays the right people and plays the game with the right people, she might make final four. I would not have had all the body artwork, but it did not affect her thinking ability.
So to each their own. Will be watching this one.

Well Survivor doesn’t disappoint in “tweaking” the concept and now it appears our BIG theme is most definitely Choices and Consequences With that I intend to watch the episodes keeping this in mind with respect to the players and the tribes.

Choices were made from the beginning. Who wants to jump out and swim to shore or stay in the boat. Choices of selected tribe members. Choices in the challenge and naturally choices for boot.

As some know, I enjoy my “lists” as I do feel it has bearing (such as the infamous pecking order challenges) With that, the initial selection could be a handy tool in determining alliances initially struck and/or choices for strategy purposes.

I will preface the selection with the obvious choice of Wanda not being selected and the somewhat interesting non selection of Jonathon. Coby, in his very Amazon Rob way was moving and shaking to get Jonathon out amongst many other strong men. Obviously Coby’s decision was personal as he felt Jonathon did not attempt to even speak with him. The fact that most of the others were not put off by this leads me to believe that Jonathon was like this with pretty much everyone

Ian selects Katie Both seemingly fun people. Ian, who I had good thoughts about pre show picks not for looks but for personality. The interesting point to this pick is Ian had the entire female cast to choose from. I saw no “major” interaction with them yet he chose her over every other woman.

Jolanda picks Bobby Jon Since Jolanda is gone, her rationale does not have much bearing any longer, however, Bobby Jon is now in a minority since we do know that he wanted to keep Jolanda despite the outcome.

Katie picks Tom Again, substance behind the pick as opposed to a cute boy pick or something else? Tom had originally talked with Stephenie about an alliance and Stephenie would probably have been on this tribe if not for being the next picked.

BJ picks Stephenie Interesting selection in terms of what I thought about BJ going into this game. Stephenie I had “liked” initially but in holding with stereotypical behavior, I imagined Bobby picking a cute blonde. Later we see that BJ wants strength on his tribe and Stephenie demonstrated that from the minute she jumped in the water. However, this was not part of any earlier alliance with the two of them as evidenced later by BJ’s vote.

Tom selects Janu Another interesting selection. Janu may not live up to my initial expectation of being a diva immediately. Unless there were conversations we were not privy to, I would imagine Tom selected Janu part/parcel with her demonstration during getting the camp together since he did comment on this, however I think we are not being shown an alliance that Janu perhaps is a part

Stephenie picks Jeff Though I don’t recall anything specific with them talking alone, I would imagine she selected Jeff for strength purpose. Why Jeff instead of picking Gregg for example could possibly be just due to lack of social interaction. Gregg seemed extremely low key and I believe Jeff’s pre show comments indicated Gregg may have problems integrating may have caused Stephenie to select someone she socialized more with.

Janu selects Gregg Strength would appear to be the key factor most likely in Janu’s decision since the younger and stronger men are being whittled down and then it comes down to personality tactics perhaps or so we are led to believe If Gregg is aligned with Tom, Caryn and Coby as was initially demonstrated, is Janu part of this but we are not being shown?

Jeff selects Kim Well I would assume at some point, one of the men or women would select someone they enjoy looking at As we know and had speculated, flirting is going to play a part (based on Jeff’s descriptions) We have not been shown this yet but I would suggest that a nice part of this selection was based on this premise although their voting ended up differently.

Gregg selects Jen With the females dwindling down to Jen, Caryn, Ashlee and Wanda, I’m not extremely surprised with this selection however, my recollection was Gregg forming a union with Tom, Coby and Caryn yet he did not select Caryn. Perhaps he felt that Caryn would be the next selection and wanted to ensure another younger member. If this were another younger male I would suggest his selection was more about physical appearance than anything else. Gregg, however, was not one who Jeff mentioned in that light so Gregg’s selection was probably more about getting a better balance for his tribe (also in light of his commentary later about the other tribe’s strength)

Kim picks James Again, whittling down to lessers of evils. James, I am sure was entertaining as well however, if strength is what they wanted, why not pick Ibe? Has Ibe put people off?

Jen selects Coby With Ibe and Willard left, interesting pick from Jen. Again, you may think that Jen would have selected Ibe with his obvious physical strength which then leads me to speculate that again, perhaps Ibe’s social behavior is less than stellar. Not a good sign for Ibe?

James picks Ashlee Again, with Caryn and Wanda and Angie left, the decision is not unusual. What I did look at was the fact that Ashlee was far down on this list barring any singing, tattoos and age as a factor. Does Ashlee strategy with flirting come into play because she was near bottom?

Coby picks Caryn One of the more interesting selections in that Mark Burnett highlighted the conversation with Coby and Angie and Angie’s confessional. Coby did indeed discuss aligning with Caryn so the selection was not questionable but what was questionable was the showcasing of Coby/Angee “connection” and he overrides it. This was a savvy decision on Coby’s part in that he even advises that he and Angie are the outsiders so to speak. By selecting Angee he would have affirmed this and he didn’t want to do that.

Ashlee picks Ibe The selection is not strange but like Ashlee, Ibe was down on the list. Ibe was also noted by Jeff to perhaps have integration issues and with his vote not conforming with the majority, this may not sit very well for him.

Caryn picks Willard I did smile upon this selection and I appreciated her selection. We can’t be too sure if there was any discussions during the selection that may have prompted this discussion.

Ibe picks Angie No strategy here. It was Angie or Wanda

I plan on keeping an eye on the socialization with some of these picks since any alliance making was seen very quickly in this episode. I do recall again Stephenie being part of the grouping with Tom to align. What happens come merger may be interesting to see. Will Stephenie, if the people she “bonded” with early are still there, go back to them?

Similar to Thailand, the tribes are very different as was their purpose Ian was very pleased with his group that consisted of a nice mix. Ulong seemed to (like Jake) want to consist of physical power which we know can have dire consequences.

Face Time

Interesting story for Angie; certainly and underdog premise. I don’t necessarily think this will shed longevity for her but they are capitalizing on her as long as they have her as they do with “characters”

Ian certainly has the leader role and a GOOD leader. Diplomatic and very subtle. He was everywhere but was not loud; this has always given me long term impressions

Tom, similar to Ian and appears to be partners with Ian, a good “couple”. While I don’t know that Tom gets near the very end (more likely due to his being such a threat overall) I did feel that from what we observed, he will be here for some time.

Coby was a very prominent person. Again I do see Amazon Rob in him. Coby is a perfect player on paper to go far. He is non threatening physically, there are no issues with alpha male problems and he landed on a tribe that would embrace him rather than shirk him. He is a big narrator.

Stephenie I was not surprised this particular female (barring any uniqueness as a person) got sufficient time. I had good vibes about her early on in light of the faces of the other women. She certainly made herself noticed jumping in the water and took control of the voting. Interesting that Jonathon did this as well. Parallels or opposite?

Caryn had some decent face time as well Nothing majorly overt but we saw her more than others. I did note her immediate attempts to instruct. She may have to tow a line at some point if her personality gets a bit overbearing.

James It is without question that James would get sufficient face time as he is a “character/caricature” that Mark Burnett always features. However, in these situations (like Angee) the face time may be misleading in that are they being shown for their “character” or their longevity?

Contradictory Face Time

I was intrigued at the lack of face time for BJ, Ashlee, Janu mainly in part of what the pre show perception of them were and that they were continuously mentioned by Jeff in his interviews. Could these three (or any of these three) be “emergence” people, or will they be “no investment” people. From the standpoint of the first show, Janu may be an “emergence” person as we did see some hints of her where BJ and Ashlee were relatively low key in spite of the descriptions we had of them.

The Others We barely got to know the others except for some brief flashes. Next episode, if they are fleshed out more, will perhaps be a good key.

Things That Make You Say Hmmmmm (In hindsight and maybe foresight?

Katie “That is a gigantic target on your head” (regarding Steph and Jonathon diving in the water)

James “That skinny little boy, he’s a fast bugger” (Will Ian out run the competition?)

Tom “That’s a loser job” (regarding fire) Interesting in that fire IS life on Survivor.

Coby “We can’t let all the young pretty people have the power......” (Coby’s strategy is clear, the young and pretty must go and he already succeeded once)

Ian “I wanted a wise tribe” (Prophecy?)

Observation that Jeff did not (or was not shown to) ask Willard about vulnerability during the selection process as the numbers dwindled. Conscious decision to edit this out?

Ibe “We definitely have an advantage, we are smart but strength will play a part too” (These comments always give me pause as to the downfall of a tribe or person)

Observation that Koror during the challenge........ took fire only. (Fire is life - sustaining tribe OR the downfall since they lost it. This question may be answered next week upon their attempts to retrieve it)

Coby and Stephenie Both had their individual quests and both succeeded. Coby with Jonathon and Stephenie with Jolanda.

Angie and her comments about she’d be happy if she would at least make it past this first Tribal Council (prophecy of being the next eliminated but fulfilling her wish?)

Observation of Ulong during the challenge very “Sucky” Jeff mentioning they are rowing to another island. The young, strong tribe rowing in the wrong direction......

James “A lot of testosterone” (re: tribe) (James did not acknowledge estrogen, perhaps a mistake?)

And from our host himself:

Jeff P. “Stop with the excuses and have a plan or you’ll be back here very soon” (Comments like these ALWAYS give me pause - do we see them yet again next week?)

THIS IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR!!!!

GREAT POST VS you CUTIE

I agree with you on most, if not all, of what you have written.

I figured Coby for the narrator and a strategist-he didn't pick Angie bc he did not want to stress his/her/their "weirdness." He is a Rob C with a little bit of Hatch thrown in. But he doesn't seem (yet, anyway) to be as conniving as Rob C and Hatch are/were.

I am hoping Angie sticks around, if they go to TC again, IB and BJ both voted with Jo, so the 6 that voted for JO may get rid of BJ and IB first. I think her comment about making it past the first TC may have been edited in for its irony and she lasts over the higher "CHOSEN" ones.

I agree about IB, he must have not interacted with them (similar to Jon). He seemed very quiet and his only confessional was about athleticism, nothing about interaction or strategy... hmmmmm. I hope he sticks around for the EYE CANDY myself, but as for editing, it does not look that great for him.

And it appears CHOICES AND CONSEQUENCES will be the key here. That was stressed throughout. TOm's choice to go to a new home and losing the flint.... What I found interesting is that they did not stress any WAR themes last night. It seemed that the show focused on the alliances of some--Gregg, Coby, Caryn was the most public--but I agree I think Tom and Janu have something going on with each other and Willard too. SO the theme was not war-like but more about alliance building (as in the beginning of WWII??)

After last nite, I'm not sure who is emerging as a "WINNER" but I think Ian has the best shot taking everything together about what I know about editing, etc. WOO HOO another Pittsburgher that looks to do well!!! Me and Geggy really have to apply for this show!!

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WOOHOO VS EDITING THREAD IS BACK!!

We were given two completely different stories about the tribes. Koror was edited as being a team (with the exception of Caryn), working together to face both the game challenges (they worked in pairs during the IC) and the survival challenges (recovering the flint). On the other hand, Ulong was shown as individuals. James tells us they are a democracy where everyone is equal. They split up learning Morse Code instead of trying to learn it together. (Koror may have taken this same approach, but we weren't shown it. And it seemed when they were solving the puzzle that more than one person knew what letter was what, although it wouldn't have taken much of a brain to figure out that they would eventually have to spell immunity in Morse Code.)They tried to do the IC as individuals instead of groups. Even the challenge they did win was more of an individual challenge than a group one. (Team members crossed the gauntlet one at a time, without help from their team.)

ding ding ding we have a winner
Ep1 Jiffy says to Ulong that they need to find a leader. Ep2 Jiffy says to Ulong that they need get their act together. IMO they will continue to go to TC until they can come together as a tribe. Watch for Jiffy's comments on this.

This is the tale of two tribes. Koror was beaten badly during the RC. The athletic difference between these two tribes could not have been more obvious. The apparantly least athletic person of Ulong, Angie, almost single handedly beat Koror. Through all of this, no negative comments by the tribe members. Ian remained upbeat in the face of Katie's complete failure. Ulong, even in the face of winning is shown in a negative light. Bobby John slapping on the ground in fustration. The brutal fall by James, and the focus of anguish on their faces during the RC.

Fast forward to the IC. Ulong, with the more athletic players quickly swim out to the platform and get a huge head start on Koror. Never was the difference more evident in these two teams then right here. Koror, using team work, quickly catches up and passes up Ulong and wins the IC by a large margin just as they did in Ep1.

Jiffy comments at TC lead me to believe that Ulong will be back to TC next week.

Koror:
Ian is still getting the best edit. He's responsible for finding the lost fire.
Tom, although he was given a slightly negative edit in Ep1, was redeemed this week when the fire was recoverd.
(Does anyone remember who or whom that was on the beach making comments about them not searching for the fire in the right place? I seem to recall that right after the last of the comments Ian found the fire.)
Katie's poor performance in the RC was not all that negatively portrayed by Jiffy or her tribe.
Caryn came off very negative.
The rest of that tribe were fairly unremarkable.

Ulong:
I agree with VS thoughts on Bobby. His angry outburst was in the heat of competition.
Angie has taken on several roles for her tribe. The fierce competitor, tribe narrator, and the one who doesn't quite fit in with all of those beautiful people. Could the person who was picked last for her tribe be the last member of her tribe to survive this game?
Kim stuck out by what she didn't do as opposed to what she did do. Her strategy was to flirt her way through the game and it has worked thus far. Jeff is her boy toy. Her performance in the IC was not lost on the rest of her tribe.
Ibe, here you have this physical speciman and he is barely noticable in competitions. He blends into the back ground of his tribe. He seems to lack personality.
The focus on Jeff and Kim's relationship, and not in a positive way leads me to believe that one of those two will be out this week.

DRONES

>This is the tale of two
>tribes. Koror was beaten badly
>during the RC. The athletic
>difference between these two tribes
>could not have been more
>obvious.

Very true Drones, but so far it seems that Koror is good in or on the water. If this pattern continues, and this season is loaded with water challenges per JP, this is a Koror advantage.

>(Does anyone remember who or whom
>that was on the beach
>making comments about them not
>searching for the fire in
>the right place? I seem
>to recall that right after
>the last of the comments
>Ian found the fire.)

That was Caryn and Coby, I believe. These two are suspiciously shown together alot, and seem to have similar personalities (IMO.)

I again agree with you VS

KOROR--the tribe will have an edge at merge time...

I agree Ian and Tom are in it for the long haul... Ian could be another Ethan-a winner that everyone likes but not a "player" like Hatch or Chris. Dolphin boy will be an asset in fishing and anything water related. He is definitely someone we are supposed to like and I do!! He will not be to full of himself as Rupert became and that will let him slide by to the finals, imo.

Tom is most likely going to go down ala Sarge/Rupert as being too strong, too well liked...he may win some II to stay in it longer than 8 or 8, but eventually someone (I think Katie) will be the architect of his boot.

Coby--I said it, he's Rob C with Hatch thrown in but I agree he is too "vocal" about his scheming....he will continue to narrate imo and go far but will not be the winner.

Katie..she will def. outlast her nemesis Caryn...again like you said last week, Katie is the mother of this tribe, not Caryn

Caryn...her or Willard will be the first to go, whether she can hold onto Coby will be key

Janu and Jenn--not enough for me to go on...unless Jenn is Darrah (oh, brother) I think she will go out sooner rather than later, Janu..she is surprising me with how well she is doing in challenges, etc. but was last night some foreshadowing and will a Rat be her downfall?

Gregg--same--I have to wait and see-- but if Koror continues to win ICs he may make it to merge and then others (Tom etc) will be higher on everyone's radar and he may slip through to f6-f4 and go on an immunity run then?. The survivor Insider has a lot of clips with Gregg in them/narrating...probably cut from show bc EPMB has some time with Gregg and others (men of Ulong)will not be around as long as he will be

Willard--again, if they go next week, it is likely Willard will go, he's sat out one challenge and is a weak swimmer. I will have to wait to see how Koror acts and what is important to them when they actually are faced with a TC...my feeling is though, they will want tribal unity/wisdom over athleticism

ULONG

Ib--I think they will be around a bit longer but I agree, if they were in it for the long haul they would have been featured more in ep. 2. I see Ib as Brady but he is UTR enough and there are enough others to take the first hits, he will probably last probably til around merge and then people will be scared of his "strength" but he wasn't too strong in the water yday.

BJ--he got a much more positive edit than I thought he would in ep. 2, he is shown as a player (along with James and Steph)
Jeff and Kim are being shown in the worst light so I see them going out very soon.

Angie--I agree with VS she will stay for a bit and win some battles but ultimately lose the war. She is the Rory character of this year...although more positive than Rory...the underdog, who keeps dodging bullets...

Steph and James--as narrators, I see them as having the best chance of Ulongers to continue post merge

The people I see in most immediate danger: Jeff and Kim on Ulong and Caryn and Willard on Koror

LAST EDITED ON 02-25-05 AT 08:38 PM (EST)

Excellent work as always, I only have a few things to add.

There has been much discussion of decisions and consequences, but there may be the third aspect, reconciliation. Caryn couldn’t let go of the decision on which beach to select, but both Katie and Coby both commented that the decision was made and now they must make the best of it. Stephanie also confessed that getting rid of Jo was the right decision. It may not be the consequences of decisions that are important but the acceptance of decisions already made.

After the first episode I thought Angie’s story would revolve around her being an outcast. She would manage to hang on for a while, almost being booted of each week, and then, in a heartbreaking episode, would finally become accepted, only to be booted off. But it is only episode two and she may have already finished her story. While she probably won’t go next week, I am unsure she makes it as far as many think. As odd as this may seem, we need to see her more on the chopping block if she is going to stick around.

Almost as telling is the story that isn’t being told. Prior to the season I thought if Janu wasn’t an early boot she could have an interesting story line. We have been given some teasers, her rock climb up the coconut tree, and her aversion to rats. But if her story doesn’t begin to flesh out soon, I have little hope for her.

Stephanie has a very interesting edit. She is coming across as a strong leader, balanced, a decision maker, and strategic player. But her story arc may be moving too fast. This, combined with her early alliance with Ulong members, leads me to believe she makes the merge, but becomes an obvious target.

Ian has been given a rock star edit and it may be too good to be true, he is around for a very long time. Tom has also received a good edit, but he appears to more of a target.

I agree with you VS, Bobby Jon is getting a much better edit than I anticipated.

ETA: It is Coby not Cory

Two strong, likable, everday winners. They appear to have some sort of alliance going on, and so far, seem to be doing things together. There's only room for one eventually, on this island, however, and who is it going to be?

"I can do anything you can do better. Anything you can do I can do too..."

Tom, it could be said, won the IC for Koror this week. I can't be the only person, however, who sat there and looked at the challenge, and went "That's nothing compared to what Koror just accomplished in getting their flint back." Really, though, it was Ian who was highlighted as being the hero in returning the flint. Tom - with Ian's help - won immunity for the tribe. It was Ian who got fire, however.

While it was edited to show that the tribe didn't necessarily agree with the opinion, MB showed Caryn pointing at Tom for the blame of moving to the different camp, and the problems that came with it - including the loss of fire. Tom lost the fire. Ian got it back.

I think these two are going to continue to work together. I think they generally even like each other. However, I think MB might eventually give us an edit to show that only one of them can prevail. Mersaydeez's spoiler has put Katie in the Final 2. If this is true, I don't think I'm jumping out on a limb to suggest that she could have either Tom or Ian sitting next to each other, and that these three could make up the Final Three, especially if that spoiler holds true. The question is, which one will prevail?

Whatever happens with the shark next week will be important. Who will be edited as the hero this time? Ian has already provided fire for his tribe(something Tom dismissed as a 'loser' job), will he also be shown to provide food? The speculation is saying that Tom does it, and no doubt he will be a key part in it, but who will be edited to win out in this situation?

I'm torn, myself, between the two. Truly, the classic hero must overcome great odds and personal mistakes/limitations. I said pre-season that I thought we'd see more 'classic' characters being developped this season. So far, Tom has perhaps made one mistake, while Ian is being carried on everyone's shoulders. The game is only beginning, however, and EPMB is still just forming our initial impressions of people.

He wants us to like Ian. He's planted a seed of doubt around Tom, and then perhaps redeemed him slightly, but still didn't place him above Ian. Classic storytelling tells us that our hero should come up against opposition next. Not right away, perhaps, we're still in the first pages of this story, but within the next few episodes we should start to see the hints of what's to come.

Tom, on the other hand, was a hero from the first moment he walked onto the beach. A NY firefighter. The Knights of our current culture. As I said in my other thread, however, this season is all about people not playing the role they're expected to. Tom is already a hero, but can he hold onto his title? If Tom is a knight, than Ian is the peasant boy with a heart of gold and good intentions who will one day surprise himself by surpassing his mentor.

If Ian continues to coast, then I think he's simply being given the Rupert 'nice guy finishes last' edit, and EPMB will find a way to slip him a million after the game is over. On the other hand, if Tom continues to be edited as being no better than Ian, I think he will eventually pass the 'torch'.(If both of these happen, well, then, Katie wins. I'm by no means ruling out that possibility.)

On the other hand, if after the initial superstar edit, Ian is shown to hit a roadblock but continue to keep pushing forward, I see him eventually overcoming whatever 'odds' are thrown in his way, and becoming the real hero of the season. This will be a slow moving story arc, that will probably involve first establishing his greatness, then perhaps hiding him for a bit(although not letting the audience forget about him) as the seeds of trouble are planted. After his obstacles are established(be they be personal, whether physically or mentally, or coming from outside. Likely there will be both), we will see him battle them. The classic ending to this story would be to see him pervail(although he could perhaps sacrifice himself, in which case, again, I see Katie as coming out the winner).

Another thing to watch for will be how nature is edited to responding to his difficulties. Nature will often reflect the mood of the hero. Since this is reality, and even EPMB can't order thunderstorms on request, this won't be cut and dry, but it's usually pretty easy to tell when he's focusing on something.

I'm going to end this here for now because it's late, and I have a feeling I'm going to start contradicting myself or talking in circles if I keep on like this. I'll post this now, but I may come back tomorrow and change my mind on a few things. I also should mention that I have a crush on Ian biasing my opinions right now.

I keep remembering that during the first challenge they did on the island, Jeff made a point of telling us that Tom was the first one over the first obstacle. Tom was leading in the first challenge they did and it was pointed out to us. Maybe it means nothing. But it sticks in my head.

You have made some great observations, emy! Caryn, imo, received extremely negative editing. First with backing Tom into a corner on the first night spent at the new beach. She seemed to attack him, to me. She drilled on and on about how making the decision to come to the new, unknown beach was a serious mistake, and that their should have been a vote....hmmmm, looks like she is questioning having a leader of the tribe to direct the group, and instead wanting the tribe to become a democracy, as James has stated that their tribe is.(Yet we see the no leader, no direction, democracy at Ulong is failing miserably). I found myself thinking how nasty she was, and how unproductive to the group she was in attacking Tom and the decision, I was in complete agreement with Katie, mistake or no, the decision had been made, and now the best thing to do would be to adapt to it and move on....Caryn is resisting adapting to the new camp, she's fixated on the old one, which is an extremely unproductive course.

Then, in the previews, we are shown a glimpse of the hyped cat-fight. Once again it seems as if Caryn is doing the attacking. No doubt about it, she is trying to control this group in some regard and failing. The editing is definately making her out to be a villain, and a bossy, vindictive, and controlling one at that. She could have a Jerri edit, but to me, the fact that we are shown her accusatory and bossy nature spells first boot to me. As emydi pointed out, in referring to how Koror will vote at TC, they will want tribal unity/wisdom over athletism. Just as they preferred wisdom and unity in choosing their tribe over youth and athletism.

Over at Ulong, imo, the MOST negative editing went to Kimber. Did you see her body language when Steph told her they were considering her on the chopping block....what a BIOTCH! If looks could kill, Steph would have dropped right then and there. Even if she attempted to go and pull the box in the IC, we were not shown it at all, we were shown that she did nothing to help in that challenge. She is a threat to the Ulong tribe, and one that I think will be targeted far sooner than later. Steph definately has her dander up regarding Kim. Should be an interesting boot!

All in all, excellent points made by all! Great thread, VS!

LAST EDITED ON 02-28-05 AT 04:31 AM (EST)

Good analysis by all!

Just wanted to mention a comment edited into one of his 5 confessionals last week.

"If we have someone slowing us down, I hope that doesn't bring down our team."

While he was referring to Ashlee at the time, his comment was probaly also included for the ironic situation he will find himself in next week. When he becomes injured and brings down the team during the IC because he "quits", he will be the one slowing them down and Ulong goes on to lose...

Krautboy

but to me, the fact that we are shown her accusatory and bossy nature spells first boot to me. As emydi pointed out, in referring to how Koror will vote at TC, they will want tribal unity/wisdom over athletism.

I think we are being shown this because there is nothing else of particular interest to show on Koror right now (except maybe the Jenn/Gregg romance, which I think has already started, but they are hiding it until after Kim and Jeff are both gone). MB loves to show fights at camp. But it smells of misdirection to me.

Koror is focused on WINNING. We've been told there are a lot of water challenges, and Willard was already shown to be a poor swimmer at the last IC. For someone who Jeff Probst thinks is an interesting character, we're not getting much out of Willard so far. I think he is a no-brainer as Koror's first boot.

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