I liked last nite's ep better than the first one that was "JUST JACK" (Will and Grace anyone? )

I don't mind all the questions or even waiting for the answers, but I too am afraid that the writers may be spinning out of control and not even know the answers themselves...that could lead to problems imo

The last part about Bush Reeve and Bo Red Sox was great. Now I'll have to keep my eye out on anything that is post 2004 that gets put into the show by mistake. Hopefully the writers/producers will be careful!

Jack's reaction was, imho, the first real ha ha funny not even a little bit ha ha weird moment in Lost's history. I thought it was a great ending...My vote is let Jack go home

Though, if they make Juliette another Kate (ie Jack and Sawyer both have whatever for her) I think I will have to spit.

LOL! *Does 'Just Jack' pose*

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I think Jack's reaction to the RedSox video was that he found inspiration not to give up.

I thought Sun's lie about the ballerina was an obvious start for the mini-arc for that episode. It was, the first time Sun ever told a lie, and it brought us through her affair and back around to Sayid asking, "And what would you know about lying?" The connection was almost Star Trek in its bash-you-over-the-head-ness.

Whether there's a connection on a grander scale remains to be seen. This episode could simply have been the catharsis that allows a more genuine reconciliation between Sun and Jin. On the other hand, this is Lost; it could have a much bigger significance.

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I thought it was an awesome eppy.

A superior episode that avoided one of the problems that have tripped up some Lost eps: uneven layers. Basically, a lot of episodes have scenes you want to see, then either bad/annoying stories or filler scenes. I don't think a single flashback was wasted, the dueling storylines were balanced well between Jin/Sun/Sayid and Kate/Sawyer. They resolved each side pretty well while keeping consistant with the themes.

The flashbacks were very good, they had action, storyline progression (one option for Sun's child...), and showed a great side of Jin IMO.

Well, the end scene made this episode from a 7 or 8 to a nine for me. Seriously, what an AWESOME ending. WOW!

The actress that Sun shot, what is her name???? She is very famous and I've seen her a million times but its killing me that I can't remember who she is.

Ok, I'm going on what is posted here as I haven't seen it on the DVR, yet

Colleen was the one that was shot?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0847791/fullcredits
lists Paula Malcomson as the actress playing that role.

Here IMDB entry http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0539155/ has a lot of roles.

Does that sound right? I would be more certain if I saw the episode and could ID her from a picturel

I liked the ep.

I don't think Jae jumped though. Jin was sitting in the car for a while waiting for Jae to arrive -- plenty of time for Sun to get to the hotel and into the room. The opening scene showed what little Sun was capable of. When she shot Colleen (?), it showed what big Sun is capable of.

They want us to believe he jumped, until a later episode when we see the same flashback from Sun's point of view -- and we'll see her push him.

As for what Benry and the Others want? I think they may ask for "donations". Let's face it . . . there's only so much variety in the gene pool when it comes to the Others. If they want to continue their existence on the island (i.e., their "lineage"), they may need some new DNA. Ewwww.

Shakes -- I think this is her --> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0539155/

She was Trixie in Deadwood --> http://www.hbo.com/deadwood/cast/character/trixie.shtml

I think her dad had a back up plan to Jin.....Sun shooting the Other....she's seen what Ethan could do and heard what Goodwin did...and if they got there she knew Jin could be dead so it was revenge that was feeding her.

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>She was Trixie in Deadwood --> http://www.hbo.com/deadwood/cast/character/trixie.shtml

Thats it! Of course! Thank you, now I'm not being driven crazy anymore. No wonder why she looked and sounded so familiar, I watched Deadwood religiously.

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I loved it too....It did answer that maybe Jin is not the babies father and then maybe there is less mystic powers....

Ben heard everything that Sawyer was saying to Kate....including that Juliette would kill thus if they make a break for it Sawyer will have to take her out....so will Ben warn her or maybe without her he'll have all the power.

I wonder about their contact with the outside world.....the TV's and equipment seem like the 60's and 70' but its 2004....why not upgrade, etc.

I think of the answer of what they are building goes to the Robert Redford movie about a military prison with Tony Sapporo running it and the wall in the yard. It's something to break them down, keep them busy, and control their prisoners/rule breakers.

I think that are there by choice and I don't know why yet....I suspect that it's a Utopia thing/perfect society thing.

I don't think Michael or Walt are listed in any of the credits so we'll have to wait a season.

I think the kid was a rule breaker...and they were trying to reprogram him...

I wonder how the Other got by Jin and Sayid and on the boat without them seeing them.....

I wonder how the Others are going to react to Sun shooting one of them…

Lots of thoughts....and I can't wait for next week...it looks more comical then anything else.

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Another good tight storyline, glad it wasn't just Sun/Jin/Sayid, but also gave us more of the Jack/Kate/Sawyer story too. I think there is a huge risk in revealing the Others, kinda like the monster never looks as scarey once you see it in a horror movie. Who are they, what are they doing there, and what is their motivations in regards to the plane crash victims needs to be really fleshed out or I'm concerned we may wind up going nowhere like we did much of season two.

The Sun flashback was interesting in a couple of points. One that she lied despite knowing it would bring consequences to someone else. It was also a little bit surprising that she actually had an affair with Jae, and that was not who she was running off to see in America (not that she was necessarily running to anyone as much are running away from her life, but there was that theory that she was running to something as much as running away from something). Then it was interesting that she would actually shoot the Other girl, something her husband could not do to the guy who had dishonored the family (although I'm not sure he would have hestitated had he known the "how" he had dishonored the family).

A friend and I had a debate about the whether Jae killed himself or not. I had originally thought someone else had been sent to finish the job should Jin be unable to complete it, and that it wasnt a coincidence that he landed on Jin's car (a message from Mr. Paik). My friends contention was the pearls led them to believe he jumped of his own accord due to the shame it brought to his family or the fact that if he followed through on the demand he would loose Sun. I was definately swayed to that point of view, but it wasnt my initial reaction. Curious if anyone else thought it one way or another and why.

I guess the whole contact with the outside world question was answered, they definately have it. What was not definatively answered was whether they in fact have all the information they claim to. It's one thing to be able to get pop culture news and another to compile a dossier on each person who was on the plane. I'm starting to wonder if they dont though since the Other girl Colleen appeared to know who Sun is and called her by her full name. Although clearly she was wrong in her assessement of whether Sun would shoot her.

The whole Sawyer/Kate work camp was odd, I got the feeling they want them to escape. There was no point to the task or rules in general other than to tick them off. I guess it could be a means to try to break them, but if they wanted to do that I think they should work them seprately. Anyone think Sawyer wouldn't flip at the offer Ben gave Jack? He would probably go and put a bullet in Freckles if he truly believed it would get him off the island. I still dont buy the Carl (aka Chachi) was being punished thing, but perhaps he and Alex (crazy French lady's daughter that helped Claire last season and talked with Kate last night) are rebelling from the Others and its legit. My personal view is Alex will be the means of the Kate/Sawyer escape, but whether she really is helping them, or working for the Others (even if its in a manner similar to what Michael was doing ) is highly debatable.

Finally Juliet is fascinating, I wonder if Sawyers assesment was correct or not that she would have killed Kate. He certainly seemed to think she would, and I halfway expected him so say "go ahead" to call her bluff. It will be interesting to see a backstory on Juliet and Henry as well, and I do think they were a couple now at one point in time. Definately not now, but the relationship has an icey undertone despite their ability to work together.

It will be nice to see what happened at the hatch next week, I expect the Kate/Jack/Sawyer story will be on the back burner while we deal with the fall out of the hatch destruction. Looks like a Locke episode from the previews... bring it on!!!

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The Sun flashback showed that one more of the Losties wasn't a "Good Person." How many are left that could be considered good? How long before we are down to only Rose?

I thought for a second that the pearls meant he did it himself....but in mob hits it is not unusual to have a message sent to others then just killing you. Sun's dad saw the pearls so I think it was part of the hit but I could be wrong.

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Other theories floating about are saying that Sun killed him herself.

I don't think Sun saw the file that Jin brought home....so how would she know....and why would she go to the funeral and cry....

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I think that from her facial expression, Sun did know that Jin was sent to kill Jae. Her father found them the day he gave Jin his 'assignment'.
However, I don't think Sun killed him.

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