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"Ozzy's plan"

Posted by garyc on 10-30-11 at 04:12 PM
Still a little confused by Ozzy's plan. Especially why he gave the idol to Cochran. Does he trust him more than any other Savaii to give it back to him assuming he wins his challenge against Christine. If he doesn't, why would he want the least likely post-merge target on Savaii to have it?

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"RE: Ozzy's plan"
Posted by dabo on 10-30-11 at 04:18 PM
I think giving the HII to Cochran was to insure that Cochran wouldn't be voted out, it would be a unanimous Ozzy vote. Had Cochran been voted out holding onto the HII the danger was, obviously, that he would feel so betrayed that he would just take the HII with him to RI. No one except Ozzy, who couldn't vote for himself, could vote for Cochran.

"RE: Ozzy's plan"
Posted by Belle Book on 10-30-11 at 08:15 PM
I have to agree. I think Ozzy wanted to make sure that he was the one voted out, not Cochran -- for obvious reasons.



"RE: Ozzy's plan"
Posted by michel on 10-30-11 at 09:21 PM
I don't think that's why he gave the idol to Cochran because he had to know exactly how the others were voting. He wouldn't risk giving it to Cochran if there was the smallest chance the others would go against his plan. The last thing Ozzy wanted was to see the idol going to RI.

"RE: Ozzy's plan"
Posted by michel on 10-30-11 at 09:17 PM
LAST EDITED ON 10-30-11 AT 09:26 PM (EST)

First, he had to give the idol to someone because he wants a Savaii to win. He didn't want to keep it and go home with it in his pocket if he loses the duel.

As you pointed out, the more interesting question is: Why Cochran? It'll be interesting to hear Ozzy's post game comment but I think one of the reasons had to be that Cochran was the least likely postmerge target. Cochran will go to the Upolus and pretend to want to flip. He will learn which player Upolu wants to target and he will then give the idol to that person.

Had Ozzy given it to Keith, the one he trusts the most, there was a possibility that Keith would feel the need to keep the idol, thinking he is being targeted. The idol can turn its possessor into Gollum, especially when you feel you need it.

Ozzy probably also figured that Cochran knew the game well enough to know that keeping the idol would be foolish. It would lose him jury votes and it would put a target on his back. The thing Ozzy may have not realized is that Cochran is savvy enough to know that he could find another use for the idol. Maybe build a whole new alliance.

Another reason to giving it to Cochran had to be to show him loyalty. As Jeff had said, it had been Cochran, Cochran, Cochran at each TC so even with this move, Ozzy probably felt Cochran needed more reassurance, needed to feel totally part of Savaii.


"RE: Ozzy's plan"
Posted by garyc on 10-30-11 at 10:08 PM
Your final reason makes the most sense to me.

"RE: Ozzy's plan"
Posted by dabo on 10-30-11 at 10:10 PM
Agree, it does help reassure Cochran that he's the one that gets to hold onto the HII. But it also resolves any uncertainty about Keith and Jim's votes since they weren't 100% behind Ozzy's plan.

"RE: Ozzy's plan"
Posted by garyc on 10-31-11 at 07:02 AM
Could also be Ozzy's way of saying I don't trust you because of the Elyse vote.

"RE: Ozzy's plan"
Posted by Belle Book on 10-31-11 at 11:32 AM
Unfortunately, that seems to be a problem for Ozzy; he's savvy but only up to a point. He wasn't as savvy as Yul, nor was he as savvy as Cirie or Parvati. And he's not as savvy as Cochran.



"RE: Ozzy's plan"
Posted by iltarion on 10-31-11 at 03:28 PM

Most explanations are simple.

Cochran was the one Ozzy first discussed his plan with.

Cochran was the only one to 100% support Ozzy's plan (for obvious reasons.)

And Cochran gives Ozzy his best chance at getting the HII back. Jim, Keith, and Whitney had betrayed Ozzy once already and didn't like Ozzy's plan. Plus, Jim and Keith would both be targets at the merge and want the HII for themselves. Cochran would not have such worries.

Since Ozzy didn't give Cochran the HII until after the vote, it clearly wasn't a move meant to influence the vote or protect Cochran.

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