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"Survivor 22 Episode #6 Lvoe List"

Posted by iltarion on 03-25-11 at 05:02 AM
LAST EDITED ON 03-25-11 AT 04:28 PM (EST)

(edited for effect)

For many, this week might have seemed like a fairly average episode with the 2nd totally predictable TC in a row. But for me, this is a true Survivor gem. Unlike last week, this week's editing seemed about 90% focused within the episode, starting with this line from Steve about Stephanie pre-intro- "She is basically just tightening the rope around her neck. If we end up going back to tribal, she's out." It isn't often that Survivor starts with someone telling you the endgame within the first 5 minutes of the show. I have to give credit to the editors of this season for truly mixing up their game and throwing some curveballs at us. Like the movies Titanic or Love Story, knowing the ending doesn't ruin the show. Of course it helps when the bootee is a villian, and when you have several hilarious lines by multiple characters. Like the editing, I'll mix up my game and include some of those lines in my list.

Stephanie- "Is praying a strategy?" Hahaha....

1. B-Rob - Of course. With the focus turning to the "beauty queens" vs. Phillip, B-Rob actually got a smaller edit this episode. However, he still ran circles around everyone else in the game, and gave us this hilarious take about his mediation of the feud- "I had to play Arafat in like a peace process to bring the tribe back together again. Phillip was right. The girls weren't doing anything. But, the less they do the happier I am. I don't want them working hard and give us all a reason to write your name down for a million dollars at the end. I want you to annoy the crap out of everyone, as much as possible." Classic B-Rob. This guy is too good for new players. He is playing a different game than everyone else right now.

2. Steve - Once again, he got the narrator's role at Zap Camp, including those prophetic words at the beginning. He handled Stephanie's vote for him and explanation of it about as level-headed as possible, even thanking her for her opinion. His clear problem is being too nice, which was somewhat bluntly foreshadowed in his confessional- "I usually think the best of people until I get stomped on." He seemed to be a key voice in the decision to keep Sarita. Plus, he got one of the funniest moments of the episode when prior to the IC Jeff asked him if he was concerned that Phillip was bringing the gorilla and the lion. (Smacks his forearm into his hand) "Boom! Forearm!" HAHAHAHA!!! Hilarious! Even Stephanie was laughing, though David looked embarrassed. I was LMAO.

3. Ashley- Yeah, she's being depicted as lazy, but at least the editing let her defend herself. She did so in unintentionally hilarious fashion that in most episodes might have been the line of the episode- "I've been working hard my whole life. I was a basketball player. I was in pageants. It isn't like I'm lazy." HAHAHAHA!!!! She also went toe-to-toe with Phillip without backing down. The bottom line is that she is the narrator for Imhotep, and her, B-Rob and Phillip got ALL the confessionals for that tribe. Plus, the best thing about her is watching her leave.

4. Phillip - Take the Dragonslayer, subtract out the philosophical and historical quotes, and replace them with 3 parts crazy and 3 parts punchdrunk, and you get this joker. Codename S.A.M might have recorded the most hilarious moment in the history of Survivor with this WTF confessional delivered with deadpan, matter of national security seriousness-

"Hell hath no fury like a lion or gorilla (shows both guns) when he thinks he's been provoked. If you are gonna make an alliance with me, you better adhere to it because I'm all about integrity. I served my country for 4 years, 11 months, 13 days for Duty, Honor, Country. That means something to me, and when you try to trash on that, me and the United States got something for you when you try that one, baby. I could dwell in a place of negativity right now based on what I just saw. I'm not going to do that. I'm going to smile, and when the time comes, I'm going to (stomping motion) kick a little @ss around here."

HAHAHAHA!!!! This can't be for real. Who is writing this guy's material? This is too much. OMG, classic. I literally hurt myself laughing.

5. Julie - "Strong woman in a little package." These words could be taken as a great sign for Stephanie, but regardless of that, in the immediate term, they are definitely a glowing mark for Julie. When juxtaposed with Stephanie's vitriol, it really makes Julie look good in comparison. The discussion of the vote showed her, Steve, and David's viewpoint. She seems liked by all and in the crux of all alliances.

6. Andrea - Dropped some after only getting one confessional, and that might have been only to wrap up Matt's story. A return alliance with Matt and a flip to the other side now seem unlikely. The story for Imhotep continues to improve.

7. Mike - Had one confessional and that was to just set up TC by telling us what we already knew, that the decision was between Sarita and Stephanie. He got no part of the voting discussion and only appeared to agree with Steve. He was dominated in the IC, but I think there are only a couple guys in the history of Survivor that wouldn't have been dominated by Grant in that challenge.

8. Grant - Finally got a challenge he could dominate for the team. Even after nearly single-handedly winning it though, he got no screen time. If he has any game other than being B-Rob's footpad, we have not seen it.

9. Natalie - Has totally disappeared as of late. Good work with Grant though, and looked good at RI with her hair down.

10. Ralph - Ditto Ralph, though he did have one confessional about Sarita. When this guy is amazed at your stupidity, you have really done something. I loved when during the IC he yelled something nearly unintelligible to the shooters- "Ida he me..." and then when David shot one his way, Ashley nearly intercepted it. Haha...

11. Sarita - Was a cool customer during her one confessional, which is a plus. The editing spent most of the episode making her look bad, but ultimately, she won the battle. She has fallen quickly from possibly being in a leadership position just a couple episodes ago. If I were her, I would have pointed out that the tribe lost 5-0 without her out there. That is hardly evidence that having her out is a good idea.

12. David - Like Stephanie, he might have waited too long to make a move. He argued so hard for Stephanie that he might have cut his own throat by ticking some people off. Though he might have been just trying to protect himself, he also happened to be wrong. Trust IS the most important thing right now. Stephanie losing at RI would be the best thing that could happen for the Zap6 right now.

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Matt - I believe his story might have just ended. He got Krista's Bible for his troubles and thus some heavenly reward for his trials at RI. He might have lost Andrea in the process, and without Andrea to go back to, what story does he have? I would like to see him continue considering he deserves it at this point, but like Clint Eastwood once said- "Deserve has nothing to do with it."

Stephanie- She has enough of an edit to beat a contented Matt at RI. Steve said to her in the beginning- "I think it was another poor move you made in alliances." Considering Steve's role of seer at the time, I believe this is definitely the perception that the editing wants us to take away from Stephanie's story- that she has made poor moves. However, we have also seen her learning and improving her game, even leading Steve to say later on- "Stephanie took a moment to ... try to play the game better." She still doesn't realize that her TC antics could ultimately cost her votes, very much like her mentor, but she might fill in for Russell nicely as B-Rob's goat. I give it at least a puncher's chance considering the strong edit for her. Redemption may not be spiritual afterall; it might be within the game.

Up In Smoke...

Francesca- who?
Russell - emotional farewell
Kristina - got out before things really got crazy
Krista - Wow. The Krista we never saw came out at Redemption Island. How does a devoted Christian girl get entwined with Russell and Stephanie? Crazy-stuff happens.

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"RE: Survivor 22 Episode #6 Lvoe List"
Posted by michel on 03-25-11 at 07:31 AM
"Krista - Wow. The Krista we never saw came out at Redemption Island. How does a devoted Christian girl get entwined with Russell and Stephanie? Crazy-stuff happens."

You should have started by asking yourself that question. The answer, easily enough, is that the Zap 6 aren't nice people to get along. The uptown girl, the macho men, the dumbass...



Ils sont fous, ces Romains!


"RE: Survivor 22 Episode #6 Lvoe List"
Posted by iltarion on 03-25-11 at 03:09 PM
LAST EDITED ON 03-25-11 AT 04:04 PM (EST)

Well, we haven't seen that. Is there something wrong with being macho? Would seem to be Stephanie's type.

What we have seen is Stephanie calling her tribemates names and trashing them from the beginning. At the same time, we have seen Julie compliment her and Steve be more than nice to her when finally approached. The "hate" Stephanie speaks of definitely seems to be a one way streak. We have not been shown anything to support her or Krista's vitriol. Only the Survivor standard- bitterness over being in the wrong alliance.

I wonder where Krista's faith has been the prior weeks because we haven't seen it. You would think a good Christian would be more compassionate. I think it is most likely she just followed the wrong leads.

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"RE: Survivor 22 Episode #6 Lvoe List"
Posted by michel on 03-25-11 at 05:07 PM
Didn't you hear what everyone had to say about Sarita? And Julie double-crossed Steph and Russell so it makes it tough to approach her again. Macho, in this game, means voting out the women to keep the guys together.

"RE: Survivor 22 Episode #6 Lvoe List"
Posted by iltarion on 03-25-11 at 05:40 PM

Yeah, they said- "princess, uptown girl, girly girl"- not exactly evocative of dislike. All those words can also be taken as compliments.

The guys have never said they were voting out women to keep the guys together. In fact, it is pretty obvious Sarita and Julie are in better than David.

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"RE: Survivor 22 Episode #6 Lvoe List"
Posted by Toban on 03-26-11 at 10:50 PM
Regardless, I now hate you both for putting that annoying Billy Joel song in my head.

"RE: Survivor 22 Episode #6 Lvoe List"
Posted by Toban on 03-25-11 at 01:45 PM
Yay, the Love list is up before I've forgotten about the episode. This is a tough list for me this week as I have mixed feelings about a lot of the players. Anyway, here goes:

1. Andrea - I really like her and I like where she's positioned herself in the tribe. Her comments about Matt didn't need to be included unless it has some relevance on the game. I hope she goes far.

2. Ashley - I really liked how she stood up to Agent Crazypants. She may have more longevity than I originally thought.

3. David - He's up this high because he presented a great argument and keeping Stephanie was in his best interest. As low man in a 6 person alliance, he should be looking out for himself right now. Unfortunately, it appears that he has rolled the dice and lost the gamble. (He does seem like a bit of a sourpuss though...can't recall ever seeing him smile.)

4. Stephanie - I was really rooting for her to stay and she's a feisty little woman. She reminds me a little of Eliza (whom I liked). If she gets eliminated at RI this week, I really don't understand her edit.

5. Sarita - I thought she fared fairly well in how she handled being a potential boot option. Keeping her was the smart move for the rest of the Zap 6 aside from David. As we know and probably as some of the others suspected, Stephanie would have jumped ship the second the merge happened.

6. Steve - Also handled himself fairly well in the mini-confrontation with Steph. It seems like he was leading the charge to keep Sarita and won.

7. B-Rob: I hate putting him this high because I don't like the guy but I have to concede he's playing an incredible game.

8. Julie - seems to be the keystone in her alliance and shouldn't be in any danger anytime soon.

9. Natalie - good job in the challenge.

10.Grant - great job in the challenge but I wish he'd do something other than be Rob's lapdog.

11.Mike - brutal job in the challenge but otherwise ok.

12.Phil - at least he's entertaining but I totally agree with Ashley on her assessment of him.

13.Ralf - "Rassell, Crasta, Stiffinie". Hooked on phonics clearly did not work for him. Also a kind of a dumb*ss when it comes to gameplay.

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Matt - Ugh. I really cannot stand it when reality show players bring their deity into the mix. If you think that Jesus or God gives a hoot about how you're going to fare on a TV game show, you're delusional.


"RE: Survivor 22 Episode #6 Lvoe List"
Posted by dabo on 03-25-11 at 02:03 PM
I'm kind of in agreement about the religious stuff. I don't have a problem with Matt or Krista or anyone being highly religious, but the idea that what happens in a stupid game for a million dollars has anything to do with honoring God or whatever just doesn't make any sense.

"RE: Survivor 22 Episode #6 Lvoe List"
Posted by iltarion on 03-25-11 at 03:25 PM

It has nothing to do with God caring about the result of some contest in some reality show. Matt and Krista gain strength through competing in honor of their faith, and they gain solace from knowing that however it turns out is the way it was meant to be. It is like praying. You don't pray necessarily to determine an outcome. You pray to make yourself feel better about the result.

For these two, their faith isn't something they pull out of the closet once a week. It is a lifestyle. To see devotion to anything other than themselves in young people is a rare and refreshing sight, even if I don't share in it. Keep in mind it was the editors' choice to put the scene on the beach in the show, not theirs.

I believe it was all done just to end Matt's story. His story is one of spiritual gain. Having done so, he can now leave happy. We all know that this game is nearly impossible for believers like he and Krista.

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"RE: Survivor 22 Episode #6 Lvoe List"
Posted by dabo on 03-26-11 at 01:02 AM
Living their religion is fine, it's wonderful. More people who claim to be Christians should actually try to be Christians. Yet--

Matt: We give this day to you, and this duel to you, Lord, and we know that whatever the outcome is that it will bring honor to you, Lord...

Stuff like this is as delusional as Phillip's belief that anyone disrespecting him in this game is disrespecting the United States and his years of service and so on.


"RE: Survivor 22 Episode #6 Lvoe List"
Posted by garyc on 03-26-11 at 08:10 AM
1) Philip - For me has just passed Shane, Matt, Rob C, John Fairplay, Borneo Sue, Joel and Chet (a duel entry) and a few others as the most entertaining Survivor ever not named Coach. Loved the "me and the USA have something for you" line.

2) Matt - Would be interesting to see a religious person go far playing the game while playing in a way that conforms to his beliefs.

3) Andrea - Seems sneaky smart.

4) Ashley - For her comment about knowing how to work hard: I've played basketball and done pagents.

5) Julie - Might be the most sensible of the Zapatera's.

6) Rob - Still fun to watch.

7) Natalie and Grant - For winning the IC challenge.

8) Stephanie - Not likeable but tried hard.

9) Other Zapatera' - Not a whole lot positive from them this episode.

10) David - Think his argument for keeping Stephanie was wrong (how loyal would she have been to anyone but David) and his position can only be worse now.


"RE: Survivor 22 Episode #6 Lvoe List"
Posted by michel on 03-27-11 at 03:59 PM
1- Rob: He is the leader of Ometepe and he knows what the tribe needs for him to win the game. Let the girls have their spa day and bring it up at FTC.

2- Andrea: She works and she adapts. Not a bad way to survive.

3- Stephanie: She continued to crack me up: "How do I suck up to people I hate? Why didn't I learn that in school?" "Is praying a strategy." "She was shaking in her boots."

4- Phillip: If you are going to bring out the Gorilla and the Lion, you should do more than sit out a challenge. "Stealth R Us"! "I'm the specialist, Rob is the mentalist and Grant is the assassin" was the line of the evening.

5- Matt: Now that he has a Bible will Matt lose focus on the challenge?

6- Grant: He really did look like a wide-receiver during that challenge. No amount of defensive holding was going to stop him. Dabo, putting a 52 year old ex-lineman out on an island to defend against a wide receiver? Yeah that always works!

7- Natalie: Still only used as decoration but I liked her reaction when Phillip started following Ashley. Natalie realized she wasn't the youngest one out there!

8- Ashley: Thank you for the spa day but do you think you can win the game that way? Even if it worked in the Amazon, Ashley is playing Heidi to Natalie's Jenna.

9- Mike: Boring narrator. The guy tried to stop Grant but he was simply too slow.

10- David: Does the guy ever smile? With Stephanie gone, where does that leave him?

11- Ralph: You guys could have done better if you had been able to catch the balls thrown in your direction. You made Ashley, ASHLEY, look like Derrel Revis as she blocked two of your passes.

13- Steve: He really doesn't do much so I'd give him a 1 out of 10!

14- Julie: Still can't make a decision.

15- Sarita: High maintenance, uptown girl, Drama queen, princess now that is really piling it on. It really looked like Stephanie was right and Sarita had no intention of participating in that physical challenge.

Gone- Krista: It seems she simply was on a tribe where she couldn't fit in.


Ils sont fous, ces Romains!


"RE: Survivor 22 Episode #6 Lvoe List"
Posted by dabo on 03-28-11 at 02:31 PM
In football lineman have assignments on each play, but at the most basic level their job is to wear down the competition. Whether Steve would have been effective against Grant we'll never know because they weren't paired against each other, but Steve could have grasped the concept and, since Grant is so much younger, could have gone full out.

"RE: Survivor 22 Episode #6 Lvoe List"
Posted by iltarion on 03-28-11 at 05:01 PM

Yeah, I'm parroting what I've already said elsewhere, but I agree with this assessment, dabo. Steve would have been outmatched against Grant, but as an ex-NFLer himself, he still probably had a better chance than Mike. For one thing, as a former lineman, Steve should know how to hold. Secondly, Steve was a better height and length match up against Grant, which was important in that particular challenge.

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"RE: Survivor 22 Episode #6 Lvoe List"
Posted by michel on 03-28-11 at 05:40 PM
You have to catch up to him if you want to hold him. Steve was already dying out there, unable to keep up with Rob. And you honestly think he'd have made the difference against Grant who is stronger, faster and better at that game?


"RE: Survivor 22 Episode #6 Lvoe List"
Posted by dabo on 03-28-11 at 11:19 PM
Holding and blocking are not the same thing.

"RE: Survivor 22 Episode #6 Lvoe List"
Posted by iltarion on 03-29-11 at 01:05 AM
True, dabo, if a ref throws a flag, then it is holding. If there is no flag, then it is blocking. A clear difference.

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"RE: Survivor 22 Episode #6 Lvoe List"
Posted by dabo on 03-29-11 at 10:20 AM
A clear difference.

fixed that for you

I heard nothing in the rules that said you couldn't hit (in the football blocking sense, not actually throw a punch) the receiver while he was trying to catch the ball. Nothing that said you couldn't hit him over and over and over during every play.


"RE: Survivor 22 Episode #6 Lvoe List"
Posted by michel on 03-29-11 at 09:39 PM

This speaks for itself. Mariano would never be considered a NFL player and yet, he was wide open. Steve looked more like a spectator than a defender. And you guys think he would have done better against Grant? That's funny.


"RE: Survivor 22 Episode #6 Lvoe List"
Posted by dabo on 03-30-11 at 01:06 AM
Pshaw, Rob's only goal, which he was only able to get because Steve missed the catch he tried to make. And on the next play Mike actually did a lineman job on Grant and Grant missed, Grant went down. BOOYAH! And on the next play Rob went down. And on the next play Rob went down again! Steve didn't look at all worn down during any of that and he wasn't even going full out against the amateur hockey puck.

"RE: Survivor 22 Episode #6 Lvoe List"
Posted by iltarion on 03-30-11 at 04:01 AM

Seriously, I don't know what's going on in that picture. What the hell is Julie doing? Looks like Andrea would have gotten it if Rob didn't.

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"RE: Survivor 22 Episode #6 Lvoe List"
Posted by dabo on 03-30-11 at 12:17 PM
Andrea scooted up behind Rob to back him up, head in the game that one. Andrea scooted around a lot throughout the challenge, Julie just couldn't keep up with her.

"RE: Survivor 22 Episode #6 Lvoe List"
Posted by iltarion on 03-30-11 at 05:07 PM

Andrea could scoot my way.

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"RE: Survivor 22 Episode #6 Lvoe List"
Posted by iltarion on 03-28-11 at 05:04 PM

Seriously, michel, sounds like Randy and Russell should be two of your fave players of all time. I mean, what is more hilarious than someone going on ad nauseum about how much they hate everyone and how stupid everyone else is?

Michel- #1 Russell Fan! Who would ever have believed it??

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"RE: Survivor 22 Episode #6 Lvoe List"
Posted by michel on 03-28-11 at 05:36 PM
The difference is that Stephanie is right, Russell wasn't!

As for Randy, not a favorite but he was good for some laughs. Check this entry and you'll see I'm not alone:


http://funny115.com/v2/78.htm


"RE: Survivor 22 Episode #6 Lvoe List"
Posted by iltarion on 03-28-11 at 06:00 PM

I didn't know hating people involved being right or wrong.

Stephanie and Krista had no problem getting along with Russell. So, in your "victims" argument, you are essentially saying that Russell is easier to get along with than any of the Zap6. Like I said, welcome to the Russell fan club.

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"RE: Survivor 22 Episode #6 Lvoe List"
Posted by michel on 03-28-11 at 06:44 PM
Calling them stupid does.

I don't know where you're going with that Russell fantard routine but it isn't even good provocation! I always said that the hate for Russell came from what he did outside of the show. After that, I simply pointed out how retarded he was to think his way of playing the game was the right way and that people were wrong to have voted him fan favorite in HvV.

I doubt that Stephanie will tell everyone that she should have won this season, that she will start a website called Stephaniewasrobbed.com, that she'll treat like sh*t everyone that disagrees with her and that she'll spoil the season just to get attention.


"RE: Survivor 22 Episode #6 Lvoe List"
Posted by dabo on 03-28-11 at 01:43 PM
LAST EDITED ON 03-28-11 AT 01:45 PM (EST)

01. Andrea. Wheels are turning in this kid's head. Eventually she will have to break out and make a move, but for now she's watching and waiting, taking in the information. The real stealth player in Ometepe to keep an eye on.

02. Steve. The actual smartest player in Zapatera, but the time to get Zapatera's act together has come and may reach critical mass if he doesn't move quickly.

03. Rob. No question about it, Rob is playing his best game ever. He has a couple of massive hurdles to deal with late in the game, and the RI twist adds one more because eventually another challenge champ will come back into the mix. But for now he's doing an incredible job.

04. David. Scrambling, trying to get Zapatera thinking his way, exactly what he should be doing and it would be great game if it were working. Where it isn't working is he hasn't factored in that the others will insist on thinking their own way, playing their own games, that's the key he's missing in trying to get things in line.

05. Mike. Good solid guy, I think he's holding back a little too much trying to avoid the inevitable challenge threat target, but the RI twist could work in his favor if he gets sent there. Make that when he gets sent there.

06. Grant. The Assassin! Very likeable guy who wisely tries to stay out of the drama, his game is mostly hidden but playing wingman to Rob is working for now.

07. Ralph. Makes noise at challenges to emphasize he's not at fault, after challenge losses he wisely just shuts up and lets the divas work on each other.

08. Ashley. Well, she does stand up for herself pretty well, that was fun. Poetry in motion at the challenge, made Ralph seem like a throwback.

09. Natalie. Like her, the only reason she's this low this week is I forgot she was there.

10. Julie. Does she have any game?

11. Phillip. Seems to change his mind on an hourly basis, the voices in his gut are working overtime.

12. Sarita. Zapatera is ripping itself apart, uptown girl needs to find her inner flower child and hand off the leadership reigns. Probably won't.

RI

Stephanie. Tried hard to play but made a critical decision early in the game, stuck to her guns when that turned out to be the wrong decision, then it was just too late to correct course.

Matt. Seems to be making the most of sleeping with the enemy.

Krista. Well, so long. Nice to see a genuine redemption come out of this Redemption Island nonsense.