I have long thought the winner will be either Zora or Melissa M. Neither Mojo nor Sarah is being edited as likeable. Plus Paul doesn't like either of them.

I don't know Swami. The whole point of the show is the lie. At the end, the "winner" finds out that Evan doesn't have the 50 mil. so it's essentially a pretty cruel practical joke. Do we want this news sprung on someone we (the audience) like? Maybe, but I really, really wish Heidi would have made it through just to see how she reacted to the "reveal". I think I might feel badly - just a little - for Melissa M.

As for Mojo, well, if I can't have Heidi, I guess she would do.

Do we think that Evan is really looking for a potential wife, or is he just playing along with the joke? How much influence do you think the producers have over the selection process?

>I don't know Swami. The
>whole point of the show
>is the lie. At
>the end, the "winner" finds
>out that Evan doesn't have
>the 50 mil. so it's
>essentially a pretty cruel practical
>joke.

True, but supposedly the show is also about Evan finding a woman who will love him and not what he does not have (money).

I think Evan feels like Zora might be more understanding, since she came from a poor family. She might be more open and not materialistic, like the others have proven to be.

I thought, from the first episode, the same thing as Swami. It would not surprise me at all, if poor Zora is the "Winner". Her prize: "EVAN" !!!!!

Poor Zora

>Do we want
>this news sprung on someone
>we (the audience) like?
>Maybe, but I really, really
>wish Heidi would have made
>it through just to see
>how she reacted to the
>"reveal". I think I
>might feel badly - just
>a little - for Melissa
>M.

Since the audience has been in on the "joke" since the beginning, I don't think they care and in fact they are waiting for that BIG moment, no matter who the girl is.

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I love Zora to death. 1) She is, and always has been, the most attractive woman on the show. 2) I don't see her as in it for the money at all. In fact, she's a little intimidated by it. I believe that that is why she isn't opening up a lot. Don't be ashamed, Zora!

P.S. Am I the only one that doesn't like Melissa's hair?

Most of the time I don't like Melissa's hair either. Sometimes it looks good. But most of the time NO.

No, you are not! I never liked her hair nor her from day one!

Not only was her hair terrible last night, but that outfit was frumpy, IMO. I just have such a low opinion of her now. She won't cook, won't clean, what does she do, she obviously is not spending her time primping.

It is astonishing how foolish humans can be in groups, especially when they follow their leaders without question - States: The Bene Gesserit View. All States Are an Abstraction.

I read on another board a few days ago that Zora was said to be the winner. But I have no idea where they got their info. So I didn't know whether to believe it. I keep hearing he didn't get the girl in the end. So it sounds like no matter who he picks turns him down. I wonder how much all the jewellery is worth?

Loree I will let you in on a little secret:

I wonder how much all the jewellery is worth?

Its actually colored rock candy. Thats the other twist at the end they are hyping, LOL.

It is astonishing how foolish humans can be in groups, especially when they follow their leaders without question - States: The Bene Gesserit View. All States Are an Abstraction.

Really? I was sure it would be Melissa. We will see...

Well I am not too surprised. I would be more surprised if Mel. M. does not make it to the F2. If the F2 is Smile girl Mel. M. and Zora I could see that. By then Joe may have figured out why Zora is uncomforatable, ie, she was raised with little money, and find that appealing. Also, Smiley Mel. M. could have made comments about the money he did not like.

So if Zora wins, Good for her, or Bad for her depending on your angle. I don't think she will take the lie well though. In fact, I don't see any of the remaining women taking the news well.

Well he got his SuperBowl Ticket, he got his exposure on TV, I'm sure he got what he wanted out of the show.

The women, thats an entire other story.

It is astonishing how foolish humans can be in groups, especially when they follow their leaders without question - States: The Bene Gesserit View. All States Are an Abstraction.

I posted this on another thread, but consider that a twist at the end is that Zora might really be an heiress of millions and be the one with the money....

Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

That would be too funny. She could be like, well sorry you lied to me, see you later.

Also in regards to my above post. After watching last nights episode 1-27-03, I have to say, I do not want Smiley girl in the F2. I said she may have made comments about the money Joe would not like, and did she ever. Well maybe not comments, but her attitute and actions were very Princess, Primadonna and High Maintenence. She can't cook and expects to eat out with him, LOL. She had her foot in her mouth a lot, IMO.

It is astonishing how foolish humans can be in groups, especially when they follow their leaders without question - States: The Bene Gesserit View. All States Are an Abstraction.

I read ( ok skimmed ) an article in the Globe yesterday while in the Walmart checkout. It says Zora, and makes it sound like it's a real love match. The twist according to the Globe ( get this) is that Zora is Pyscic and knew all along that he didn't have money, and was only uncomfortable about being lied to. LOL ! I guess I should see if there is an online link, because I didn't buy it ( equirer yes, star, sometimes, globe, never)

OK this is scary, why, because I am also Psychic and knew she was psychic because I am psychic. Bwwwaaaaaahaaaaaaaahaaaaaa, NOT!

Psychic or not I do beleive she thinks she is being lied to, one way or another.

Thanks for the post it was funny.

It is astonishing how foolish humans can be in groups, especially when they follow their leaders without question - States: The Bene Gesserit View. All States Are an Abstraction.

Not sure how the Globe ranks as far a truth in reporting goes, but if it is anything like Weekly World News, I would hold off placing bets on Zora or her psychic abilities.

You see, I was in a convenience store yesterday (Wawa for those in the NE), and I couldn't stop cackling at the WWN headlines:
Stolen Bat Boy Car Found (complete wuth photo of bat boy stepping out of car)
Angel Shot by Hunters (complete with photo of dead "angel" lying face down on pavement)
and How to tell if you are a psychic - wouldn't you already know?

An IceCat Original, 2002

Angel Shot by Hunters (complete with photo of dead "angel" lying face down on pavement)

Homer : "See the angel, here's the angel, see the angel, here's my angel, next to the Rakes!"

Sorry, its O.T. but I could not resist.

It is astonishing how foolish humans can be in groups, especially when they follow their leaders without question - States: The Bene Gesserit View. All States Are an Abstraction.

I knew I read about this somewhere. Somebody posted this on the Joe page at the TV Clubhouse:

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From the Denver Post:

Boulder grad vies for ‘Joe

By Bill Husted
Denver Post Columnist

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - Who wants to marry a millionaire - who's not really a millionaire?

Maybe Zora Andrich, a 1991 Boulder High grad and homecoming queen. She's one of the 20 bachelorettes on "Joe Millionaire," which debuted Monday night on Fox 31. The show passes off a $19,000-a-year construction worker as a Paris multi-millionaire.

Zora, 29, was sworn to secrecy Monday, and the Fox publicity people weren't letting her gab. She just told me that she's living in New Jersey, working as a model, actress, caregiver to the elderly and as a substitute teacher. And that she had fun.

Her mom, Boulder astrologer Vava Andrich, does gab, however. She said during the November shoot outside of Paris, "Zora had some of the best times of her life - and she also wondered what the heck she was doing there. My daughter is psychically gifted, so she really didn't buy it."
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Well, it would explain Zora's standoffishness...