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"Everyone get ready to vote (Paradise Hotel)"
Posted by shakes the clown on 06-13-03 at 11:48 AM
If you check out the cast of Paradise Hotel on Fox.com you might recognize a certain familiar looking bug eyed contestant. That's right, our favorite psycho nut case Toni has somehow landed a spot on the new show on Fox. And, even more amazing, she has also discovered the fountain of youth since according to the website she hasn't aged past 28 since the year 2000.

All I know about this show is that the audience votes someone off the show every week. I didn't vote for American Idol, I don't even vote for President, but you better believe I'm going to give myself carpal tunnel trying to get this biatch sent packing.

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"A Picture of our Lovely Contestant..."
Posted by IceCat on 06-13-03 at 12:29 PM




"RE: A Picture of our Lovely Contestant..."
Posted by minitroll on 06-14-03 at 04:47 AM
Love it! Excellent re-creation Ice Cat.

"RE: Everyone get ready to vote (Paradise Hotel)"
Posted by SurvivorBlows on 06-13-03 at 12:53 PM
LAST EDITED ON 06-13-03 AT 12:57 PM (EST)

Maybe FOX figures that so few folks watched Love Cruise and it aired so quickly that no one would notice... you think at least Toni would have claimed to be "29" now

On a unrelated note, nice to see some more female hosts, the women viewers have been having all the fun for too long. May we never see Monica again...

-SB

"RE: Everyone get ready to vote (Paradise Hotel)"
Posted by TechNoir on 06-19-03 at 09:08 PM
All I can say is "Dog Eat Dog" ... makes up for a lot.


"I'm the master of low expectations."—George W. Bush, June 4, 2003

"RE: Everyone get ready to vote (Paradise Hotel)"
Posted by true on 06-16-03 at 09:57 AM
Isn't this the show where viewers compete to be part of the cast? Wouldn't it be funny if Toni got booted and Shakes took her place. LMAO! I think you should consider trying out Shakes. heeheeehee

"WOO HOO!"
Posted by SurvivinDawg on 06-16-03 at 11:37 AM
LAST EDITED ON 06-16-03 AT 11:38 AM (EST)

Ya know, shakes, I think Evil Bert is going to come after you fer messing with his girl!

It should be fun to watch ol' Bug Eyes get the shaft(er, never mind, been there done that) get waxed by the voters, who I am sure will have Jerri Manthey on their minds also.




Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

"RE: Everyone get ready to vote (Paradise Hotel)"
Posted by lilgypsy on 06-16-03 at 03:20 PM
Aw c'mon Shakes, let her stay a show or 2. Let's see if she can be as psycho on this show as she was on the other. If you knew she was going to be on here, would you have tried to get on?



"serious damage"
Posted by lilgypsy on 06-16-03 at 03:37 PM
ummmmmm on second thought, after viewing the web site and seeing Toni's picture, has she bulked up or what? She looks like she could cause some serious damage.......

Wit for Wit,Shakes, you would win by a landslide...but she looks like she isn't going to take any crap on this show......


"RE: Everyone get ready to vote (Paradise Hotel)"
Posted by SurvivorBlows on 06-16-03 at 06:03 PM
Hey shakes, not sure what it means, but Toni seems to be pretty popular in the pre-Ep1 released press photos:

http://www.realitytvworld.com/index/modules.php?op=modload&name=Magnish&file=index&gallery_ID=18&cont=display_image&page=2

"RE: Everyone get ready to vote (Paradise Hotel)"
Posted by managerr on 06-17-03 at 07:03 PM
What is the point of this show? Is it like a Real World thing that just has a revolving cast?

Kristin of E! makes note of Toni in her column:

http://www.eonline.com/Gossip/Kristin/Trans/Archive2003/030616c.html

Kristin calls Love Cruise "The best cast reality show ever"! Wow!!!!

"RE: Everyone get ready to vote (Paradise Hotel)"
Posted by shakes the clown on 06-18-03 at 02:20 AM
>
>Kristin calls Love Cruise "The best
>cast reality show ever"!
>Wow!!!!

Thank you, thank you very much. And yet, not a single Blowie on my mantle.


"Here..."
Posted by IceCat on 06-18-03 at 03:50 PM
These ones don't require a vote... The mods each keep a couple on hand for just such an occasion:

"RE: Everyone get ready to vote (Paradise Hotel)"
Posted by HobbsofMI on 06-18-03 at 09:08 AM
LAST EDITED ON 06-18-03 AT 09:09 AM (EST)

If this show is a mix of TI and BB....then why is there so many shots of them at the hotel already? I thought that people were going to vote off them and see live shots of them there....What they have been there for weeks waiting for the show to start or what? I don't understand this show and it has not even started....not that I was going to watch to begin with.

"RE: Everyone get ready to vote (Paradise Hotel)"
Posted by saradelas on 06-18-03 at 03:05 PM
First off...get your facts straight. She was 27 on Love Cruise (which was in the fall of 2001)...so logically she would be 28 now. She had just turned 27, then turned 28 in the fall of 2002, and WILL turn 29 this upcoming fall.
I happen to know the girl. And she is not like she was portrayed on Love Cruise. Before you run your mouth you should put yourself in her shoes...I'm sure that if you had cameras around all the time, they would pick up on a bad moment or two. Give the girl a break...she's dealt with enough crap.
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"RE: Everyone get ready to vote (Paradise Hotel)"
Posted by Drive My Car on 06-18-03 at 03:37 PM
LOL!
"RE: Everyone get ready to vote (Paradise Hotel)"
Posted by sticks on 06-18-03 at 03:56 PM
Um... OK.
"Foot in mouth disease"
Posted by shakes the clown on 06-18-03 at 03:59 PM
>First off...get your facts straight.
>She was 27 on Love
>Cruise (which was in the
>fall of 2001)...so logically she
>would be 28 now.
>She had just turned 27,
>then turned 28 in the
>fall of 2002, and WILL
>turn 29 this upcoming fall.
>


OMG, do I really need to even touch this one? Talk about making an ass of yourself on your very first post. But, since you're "friends" with Toni that must make you an idiot so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

First of all, Love Cruise was FILMED in September of 2000, when Toni was 27 years old (at least according to her). The listed age on the LC website is from the filming date, not the date it aired a year later. How do I know this for sure? Damn, do I wish I could see the look on your face when I reveal this bit of factoid.....uhm, I might be an authority on the subject since I WAS ON THE FREAKING SHOW WITH THE PSYCHO B!TCH! So, according to your math I guess I should notify all my friends and family that my upcoming birthday is not my 33rd, but my 31st according to your logic. Cool, I just took two years off my age! Thanks!

>I happen to know the girl.
> And she is not
>like she was portrayed on
>Love Cruise. Before you run
>your mouth you should put
>yourself in her shoes...I'm sure
>that if you had cameras
>around all the time, they
>would pick up on a
>bad moment or two.
>Give the girl a break...she's
>dealt with enough crap.


Oh this is too funny. Let me fill you in on a little Love Cruise inside information. If they really wanted to, they could've made the psycho look even worse than she did on that show. That's how psycho she is. If anything, she should be thanking the editors at Bunim Murray for NOT using half the incriminating footage they had of her.

And I know her quite well myself, and let me say that without a doubt the girl is even worse than she was portrayed.

And since you asked, I DID have cameras following me around 24x7 and yet I managed to avoid looking like a complete sociopathic psychopath on national tv, as did the other 15 castmembers not named Toni.

So, maybe its YOU who should be checking herself before running her mouth since I've obviously earned the right.


"RE: Everyone get ready to vote (Paradise Hotel)"
Posted by munson on 06-18-03 at 05:36 PM
Couldn't believe it when I saw it...TONI IS BACK!

I've met her, briefly, been around her, occasionally, but don't "know" her. From what I've seen and experienced - first hand - sure as hell wouldn't want to either. She's scary. Look into her eyes. Something's not right with this one.

27? Bwhahahahahhaha! Oh, sorry about that. I just thought I saw she's claiming that she's 27. . . . Bwahahahahah!

Hey guys, a Toni fan girl on board this time around! Should be fun.....

"RE: Everyone get ready to vote (Paradise Hotel)"
Posted by true on 06-18-03 at 10:56 PM
FUNNIEST.POST.EVER.

I get the feeling that we won't have the opportunity to vote that HO off the show. But, I do still think it would be hysterical if you showed up to get picked for it. LOLOL!

Toni has to be the most insecure HO ever. She just reeks of paranoia and self doubt. How tiring it must be for her to put up such a pathetic, hard ass front all the time. I truly think she'll be the first one out of there, and she'll do it to herself. (as a side note, watching her melt down and phoney it up for the camera is humorous, in a sick train wreck sorta way. And it's obvious that this shows producers aren't trying to hide her psycho ways...LOL)

"RE: Everyone get ready to vote (Paradise Hotel)"
Posted by lilgypsy on 06-19-03 at 11:40 AM
This is soooo true....Did you see the show last nite? She is already paranoid about being the first off and it is showing...


"RE: Everyone get ready to vote (Paradise Hotel)"
Posted by SurvivinDawg on 06-19-03 at 06:06 AM
Never thought I would see myself typing this, but here goes:

"Shakes, may I fill your flamethrower with gasoline for you?"



Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

"RE: Everyone get ready to vote (Paradise Hotel)"
Posted by managerr on 06-19-03 at 09:59 AM
Welcome to Blows, Andrea!
"Toni = Miss Soundbite"
Posted by IceCat on 06-18-03 at 10:16 PM
This woman has obviously sat at home and practiced little sound-bites and micro-dramas so that she can get past the editors and maximize her face time:

"I'm going to be the first voted out..."

"The game is being plaaaaayed..."

Her whole description of the hotel facilities in the first ten minutes of the show was either specifically directed by the show's producers or it's another example of her scrambling into the foreground.

"RE: Everyone get ready to vote (Paradise Hotel)"
Posted by sorgee on 06-18-03 at 10:24 PM
1) the love cruise editors couldn't have made toni look bad if she didn't give them material to work with.
2) from what i can remember from love cruise, she was a skank. plain and simple. (and i mean that in a "low rent kinda girl that is trying like heck to fight her way out of the trailer park" kind of way.)
3)there is no way that i would spend my hard earned cash to hire her as a personal trainer...
4) i will join my favorite clown in trying to get rid of her. the girl is not quite right. she needs to go before she freaks out on someone.
"She is B-A-A-A-C-K!!!"
Posted by RudyRules on 06-18-03 at 11:11 PM
LAST EDITED ON 06-18-03 AT 11:21 PM (EST)

I could barely believe it when I saw the first Paradise hotel episode!

I said to SS, "Hey, that CAN'T be Toni!" But I come here to see if it is verified and OMH it is!!
I can't wait to see the BUG EYES start!

I say let's hope she stays "hooked up" until we get Shakes voted ON TO THE SHOW!
Now, THAT would be Must See TV!

Edited to add: Also, is it me or are her eyes browner now? I thought they were blue before? Maybe my memory is fading.


"Them people had to be pretty dumb to make their camp in a riverbed." - Rudy Boesch

"the reason she is on the show"
Posted by shakes the clown on 06-18-03 at 11:18 PM
if you noticed in the opening credits the executive producer of the show is Bruce Toms who was also the executive producer of Love Cruise and the only person in show business who can legitimately make the claim to be the first person to discover the amazing talent that was Michael from Love Cruise who Bruce discovered at an open casting call in Chicago.

Bruce's other credits include Real World, Road Rules, Under One Roof (canceled mid season), Border House (premiered tonight).


Obviously, Bruce took one look at the premise of this show and decided to give Toni a call.


"RE: the reason she is on the show"
Posted by RudyRules on 06-18-03 at 11:23 PM
Bruce Toms who was also the executive producer of Love Cruise and the only person in show business who can legitimately make the claim to be the first person to discover the amazing talent that was Michael from Love Cruise

And how glad we are he did!


"Them people had to be pretty dumb to make their camp in a riverbed." - Rudy Boesch

"RE: the reason she is on the show"
Posted by SurvivorBlows on 06-18-03 at 11:27 PM
LAST EDITED ON 06-18-03 AT 11:31 PM (EST)

>Bruce's other credits include Real World,
>Road Rules, Under One Roof (canceled mid season), Border House

That's "Boarding House" -- it's not a Taco Bell commercial

>Obviously, Bruce took one look at the premise of this show
>and decided to give Toni a call.

He should recognize the premise -- it's basically Love Cruise without the boat and (apparently) without the lame challenges.

Frankly, I'm just surprised FOX gave Bruce Tom more work -- Love Cruise was a Bunim/Murray show. Paradise Hotel isn't, so clearly he's not working for them anymore. And if his solo track record is basically Love Cruise and Under One Roof, that's not very impressive...

Heck, Tom's "Boarding House" work was apparently so unimpressive that The WB felt the need to bring in Mark Burnett a couple of months before the premiere (and MONTHS after the show had already been filmed) to try and cobble something out of the footage that had been shot.

-SB

"They got rid of the boat..."
Posted by IceCat on 06-18-03 at 11:32 PM
... because Love Boat spent all of its time docked. Probably not enough on board power to run cameras and lights.

I still believe that the reason the picture looked so washed out during the exterior shots on Love Cruise was the fact that they were trying to hide the fact that the boat was tied up along shore and not sailing.

"RE: the reason she is on the show"
Posted by SurvivorBlows on 06-18-03 at 11:43 PM
LAST EDITED ON 06-18-03 AT 11:45 PM (EST)

>if you noticed in the opening
>credits the executive producer of
>the show is Bruce Toms

Hey um shakes... Toms same isn't in the opening credits... after the intro it flashes:

Executive Producer
Tom Gutteridge

Executive Producers
Arthur Smith
Kent Weed

Executive Producer
Charles Thompson

Created By
Phil Roberts
Howard Davidson

...then Amanda the hostess is intro'd

And at least on the Providence and Boston FOX stations, neither station had any closing credits (wierd...)

-SB

"hey webby"
Posted by shakes the clown on 06-19-03 at 01:01 AM
after the credits you listed the hostess talked for second and then they showed some more credits. Bruce's name led off that batch as one of the two co-executive producers.

And Bruce did leave BMP after LC and got a job with Endemol (or is it Edemol)


"RE: hey webby"
Posted by SurvivorBlows on 06-19-03 at 01:20 AM
Ah, woops, didn't replay my tape far enough... I figured they were done after the hostess... how many executive producers can one show possibly have
"RE: the reason she is on the show"
Posted by lilgypsy on 06-19-03 at 11:48 AM
What? and he didn't call you? Shame on him.....that would have been great fun to see you both on the opening show....



"RE: Everyone get ready to vote (Paradise Hotel)"
Posted by SurvivorOverlord on 06-19-03 at 10:22 AM
I couldn't believe when I saw her!!! And did you notice that she was already trying to call the shots for some of the others after the first day!!

But wouldn't it be funnier to leave her on the show and vote Shakes on it???

Can you imagine the look on her face.....those eyes would pop right out....LOL!


SULTAN OF SMOOCHES

"RE: Everyone get ready to vote (Paradise Hotel)"
Posted by sorgee on 06-19-03 at 11:01 AM
the most "precious" moment on the show was when toni was telling charla that they would get her a strategy and when charla replied that she didn't need one.
loved it!

"RE: Everyone get ready to vote (Paradise Hotel)"
Posted by Schnookie Palookie on 06-19-03 at 01:58 PM
I loved it! Then, to add more injury, Charla starts hitting on Toni's guy and Toni sits there sulking LMAO! She is one scary girl. However, Charla is pretty scary too. Did you see her get freaky because the staff unpacked her clothes?


"RE: Everyone get ready to vote (Paradise Hotel)"
Posted by lilgypsy on 06-19-03 at 02:43 PM

And what was with all of the curtain pulling? They can only go so far.....


"RE: Everyone get ready to vote (Paradise Hotel)"
Posted by minitroll on 06-19-03 at 03:45 PM
I have to agree with you Nookie, that Charla is pretty scary too, but she seems more like a spoiled brat than a psycho. Now Toni, on the other hand.....*shudder*

"RE: Everyone get ready to vote (Paradise Hotel)"
Posted by LadyT on 06-19-03 at 06:48 PM
Toni scared me so much that I had to watch the horror that is Paradise Hotel. But I kept watching Charla and thinking, where have I seen her before? She looks like an underdeveloped Britney Spears. Now that is true horror


"RE: Everyone get ready to vote (Paradise Hotel)"
Posted by teddysgirl on 06-19-03 at 02:40 PM
I'm new to this message board, just stumbled upon it. But TELL ME that shakes the Clown is Michael from LC??? Your episode "summaries" were the most entertaining reading I've done in years. PLEASE consider contributing a post mortem on each Paradise Hotel episode - we need your input and analysis of Foni. Any truth to the rumor that she got producer Bruce in a (massive-built-like-a-tank) headlock?
"RE: Everyone get ready to vote (Paradise Hotel)"
Posted by RudyRules on 06-19-03 at 06:23 PM
But TELL ME that shakes the Clown is Michael from LC???

Yup, He's one and the same!
BTW, Welcome aboard!!


"Them people had to be pretty dumb to make their camp in a riverbed." - Rudy Boesch

"Holy crap!"
Posted by moonbaby on 06-19-03 at 03:13 PM
I just saw this! Toni's back? RUUUUUN!!! RUN FOR YOUR LIIIIIIVES!
I may actually tune in to re-live fond Love Cruise memories. And I'm going to watch it in TONIVISION:


"Is she a plant?"
Posted by WhyDoIWatchThisStuff on 06-19-03 at 06:05 PM
We all know she seems like a nutcase...so why would the put her on yet another show?

It seemed to me that she was put on the show to try to create extra drama in case there were boring people there with her. I think that's why she kept nosing her way into everyone else's business trying to be everyone's friend and ask questions and plan strategies. Anyone with me on this?

"Of course she's a plant..."
Posted by IceCat on 06-19-03 at 06:31 PM
She's a combination greek chorus and rabble rouser...

She provides narrative when required... (eg: the description of the hotel) and

Conflict when things get slow... (eg: suggesting strategies to other players)

She is no more a contestant in this game than Evan Marriot was in Joe Millionaire!

"RE: Everyone get ready to vote (Paradise Hotel)"
Posted by managerr on 06-20-03 at 01:40 PM
How could Love Cruise gotten such mediocre ratings? Yet someone else who recognizes Toni, this time a guy from ESPN.com

http://espn.go.com/page2/s/simmons/030619.html

"RE: Everyone get ready to vote (Paradise Hotel)"
Posted by SurvivorBlows on 06-20-03 at 04:48 PM
The funny thing is Simmons (the writer) hangs out on a Red Sox message board I'm part of... small world!

Lot's of reality TV in his column this week... Toni, Real World, Celebrity Mole

-SB

"Toni!"
Posted by Survivorchick on 06-22-03 at 10:49 PM
I don't think she'll need your help getting booted off of this show. I laughed the whole episode. Didn't you think she was acting like such an expert? Like everyone should take her advice because she's got so much experience.

I hope she sticks around for awhile - just because I'd love to see her have another psychotic episode on TV.

"RE: Everyone get ready to vote (Paradise Hotel)"
Posted by RealityWatcher810 on 06-24-03 at 00:02 AM
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, While watching Paradise Hotel tonight, I just couldn't place where I saw that crazy blonde (?) before (aka. Toni). It finally bugged me so much tonight that I had to hit my computer to do a global search to find out. Didn't like her then and still don't like her.
Loved reading all your comments, I laughed out loud the whole time because it's all so true........and will keep coming back for more.
"RE: Everyone get ready to vote (Paradise Hotel)"
Posted by managerr on 07-07-03 at 12:16 PM
Shakes, I was going to post this on the Love Cruise forum, but I don't know if anyone still goes there. According to this old TV Guide interview, Toni gave Jeannette a job when she got back to Chicago. Is this true?

http://www.tvguide.com/newsgossip/insider/011018c.asp

"shame on you managerr"
Posted by shakes the clown on 07-07-03 at 12:50 PM

> According to this old
>TV Guide interview, Toni gave
>Jeannette a job when she
>got back to Chicago.
>Is this true?

...knowing what you know about Toni why on Earth would you EVER believe ANYTHING that comes out of her horse face mouth? Of course its not true..Jeanette's still working at the same laminating company she was working at before she went on Love Cruise. Jeanette did have a brief waitressing/bartending job at a new bar in Chicago a couple of years ago, but she went in and got that job on her own. I think Toni might've known the owner of that bar so according to Toni logic that means she got Jeanette the job even though Jeneatte already had the job when she found out that Toni knew the owner.

The first thing you learn when you know Toni is to never believe a word she says. Here is just a short list of some of the lies she has told me over the years...

1. She got a record deal
2. She has numerous movie deals in the works
3. She is not a man

"RE: shame on you managerr"
Posted by SherpaDave on 07-10-03 at 02:10 AM
Bless you, Shakes. Mrs. Sherpa called me away from the nightly toothbrushing ritual with the junior sherpas tonight to tell me that "Holy crap! That bug-eyed freak from Love Boat is on another reality show!" (Yes, she had the title wrong. Sorry.) So, of course, I immediately checked out this forum. And lo and behold, Shakes is here, dishing dirt on the worst reality tv contestant ever. God bless you. I think I'll have to actually check this forum occasionally now.

(I can just hear #3, btw. "I am not a man! I am an animal! I mean... wait... can we film that again?")


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