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"Offended/not offended?: premiere."

Posted by Estee on 09-20-07 at 08:27 AM
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"Not offended."
Posted by Estee on 09-20-07 at 08:31 AM
My main worry right now -- which surprised me a little -- is diet. It's one thing to put adults on the EPMB grain-and-drain, but it's more vital to keep things balanced for kids. They do need more protein than what we're seeing, fresh fruit would be nice, and veggies should show up somewhere.

"Totally agree"
Posted by moonbaby on 09-20-07 at 10:13 AM
Not offended and also hoping the kids' nutritional resources improve. I was wondering about the grocery store but since the meals are cooked for everyone at once I guess you couldn't go in there and buy a steak


"RE: Totally agree"
Posted by Tahj on 09-20-07 at 12:02 PM
It's only 40 days. It's not like it's going to arrest their development. Besides, the diet is probably pretty close to what kids were getting in 1885.



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"Not Offended"
Posted by byoffer on 09-20-07 at 02:32 PM
I think that the kids were educated before the show started. They were taught something about sleeping safely, not wandering away, how to take care of the stoves, how to feed themselves.

I say this only because I believe they do this for other reality shows (like the Survivor contestants always get trained on the dangers of wherever they will be) and because one kid last night said "I worry about getting enough protein in my diet", which didn't sound like something any 10-yr old I have ever met would say.

I think the kids will be fine. Miss their family prolly, and there will be many confrontations, but that is just life. No one will be at risk.



"RE: Offended/not offended?: premiere."
Posted by geg6 on 09-20-07 at 09:45 AM
Totally not offended and cannot imagine for the life of me why anyone would be.

Based on what I saw last night, I love, love, love this show.


"And now the whole nation -- pulpit and all -- will take up the war-cry, and shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man who ventures to open his mouth; and presently such mouths will cease to open. Next the statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked, and every man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception." Mark Twain


"RE: Offended/not offended?: premiere."
Posted by brvnkrz on 09-20-07 at 09:50 AM
Not offended. So far, so good and I'll keep watching for now.

RIP, Bill Walsh

"Not offended but"
Posted by zombiebaby on 09-20-07 at 10:11 AM
pretty bored. Seemed to me like any stereotypical reality game show only with kids.

I will try again next week to see how it goes but I need to be entertained.



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"RE: Not offended but"
Posted by jbug on 09-20-07 at 12:50 PM
I need to be entertained.

just trying to help


"RE: Not offended but"
Posted by Road Kill on 09-20-07 at 04:40 PM

wwwwwwwwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

"RE: Not offended but"
Posted by foonermints on 09-20-07 at 06:31 PM
So what you're saying is that you'd give up TV for an outhouse?

"RE: Not offended but"
Posted by Prof_ Wagstaff on 09-20-07 at 02:26 PM
pretty bored. Seemed to me like any stereotypical reality game show only with kids.
I will try again next week to see how it goes but I need to be
entertained.

I was pretty bored too. My 8yr old really liked it, but my 11yr old got up in the middle to go take her bath.
We'll give it another shot next week.

No, not offended.


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"RE: Offended/not offended?: premiere."
Posted by syren on 09-20-07 at 10:13 AM
I loved this show. I thought I would like it, but I think Jared took it over the top for me.



What?



"RE: Offended/not offended?: premiere."
Posted by Molaholic on 09-20-07 at 10:38 AM
Not offended. More bemused than anything --

As already identified, the nutrition (or lack thereof) does concern me. But I'm guessing that some where along the line a couple of the farm kids will be asked to 'take care' of some of the chickens, or maybe a goat (there were some little 'uns, no good for milk production) -- and let's not forget about the Great Wabbit Hunters.

I must wonder, however, just what kind of pre-production preparation the kids (and their parents) were given. We know that the Survior castaways get training on basic survivor techniques (identifying edible/poisionus plants, etc).

And (again) what about school? I believe this was filmed in April/May -- school still in session for most kids (not to mention prime Testing windows).


"RE: Offended/not offended?: premiere."
Posted by Estee on 09-20-07 at 10:45 AM
and let's not forget about the Great Wabbit Hunters

I've already given up on the Great Wabbit Hunters. It's nice to see the ambition, but homid vs. lapine when the homid is armed with a rock is a automatic victory for the lapine. If they get within four feet of a hit, it means the jackrabbit was in a teasing mood.

"RE: Offended/not offended?: premiere."
Posted by geg6 on 09-20-07 at 10:53 AM
LAST EDITED ON 09-20-07 AT 10:54 AM (EST)

The previews for next week showed some controversy brewing over killing a chicken. So...I'm assuming protein will eventually be part of the picture.

I'm sure the kids got some preparation.

As for the school thing, I read that it occurred when they were out of school. Of course, that varies so widely from state to state and district to district that that could mean anything.

Regardless, don't you think this is pretty damn educational? If I had a kid, I'd rather he/she do this and actually learn something about life than the worthless learning how to take a multiple choice test that is pretty much all the students we get here know how to do once they graduate high school. NCLB = ECLB with no life, economic, verbal, written, or practical skills.

Edited because I left out a couple of the other necessary skills it seems NCLB would rather they not learn.


"And now the whole nation -- pulpit and all -- will take up the war-cry, and shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man who ventures to open his mouth; and presently such mouths will cease to open. Next the statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked, and every man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception." Mark Twain


"RE: Offended/not offended?: premiere."
Posted by Snidget on 09-20-07 at 10:59 AM
LAST EDITED ON 09-20-07 AT 11:00 AM (EST)

Not offended.

1) Even though there are no adults doing the cooking, etc., I am sure that all the medical and safety stuff the insurance company would have required were in place so there were adults to cover all the "if something happened" issues.

2) Kids get injured, I know as a society we seem to think we can childproof the world. We can't. As long as the neded safety issues were handled (and something I saw/read seemed to indicate they were taught enough to be able to use the wood stove my Mother learned to cook on when she was their ages) you've done what you need to do. I would bet adults (probably someone in addition to the camera person) was on hand for all cooking or other "dangerous" chores.

"Let the little one-eyed bastards play."

3) Diet, I did hear canned peaches mentioned and when they were messing with the cans I think I saw vegetables. I'm not sure what canning techniques are period, but a diet at that time when first settling a place would mostly be preserved food. They have protein available (chickens, goats, the eggs and the milk) and it seems at least one of the farm/ranch kids will figure out the rest. As long as they are available I think they are covered, and there may be something in that instruction book about scurvy or other such diet issues.

4) I'm not sure about child labor issues, it doesn't seem worse than any of the farm kids that age I knew with feed the animals/weed the garden, etc work schedules. Now the being filmed=work thing may be and issue, but with that many kids and the amount of work there is the actual chore/day time per kid should not be excessive.

5) Even with please stay peer pressure, that they are routinely offered the opportunity to leave is a good thing, IMO.


"RE: Offended/not offended?: premiere."
Posted by jme01 on 09-23-07 at 06:33 PM
>LAST EDITED ON 09-20-07
>4) I'm not sure about child
>labor issues, it doesn't seem
>worse than any of the
>farm kids that age I
>knew with feed the animals/weed
>the garden, etc work schedules.
>Now the being filmed=work thing
>may be and issue, but
>with that many kids and
>the amount of work there
>is the actual chore/day time
>per kid should not be
>excessive.
>
I read somewhere that this was filmed in New Mexico where the child labor laws are a bit different. Also, it was called a "Documentary" instead of a contest to get around some of the legal issues.

Another point that has been making the rounds is that this was not an abandoned town, but a western tourist attraction that was modified for teh show.


"RE: Offended/not offended?: premiere."
Posted by Tahj on 09-20-07 at 12:06 PM
Not offended in the least. This reminds me a lot of my boy scout camp experiences, only with girls this time. I like this show so far.



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"Horribly Offended!."
Posted by foonermints on 09-20-07 at 02:36 PM
I SO wanted a huge grizzly bear to jump out of the second box.
Favorite Quotes:
Sophie: "I feel like I'm surrounded by a whole lot of dumb people."
ScienceBoy: "That would like, hurt your colon. A lot."


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"RE: Horribly Offended!."
Posted by geg6 on 09-20-07 at 03:08 PM
>ScienceBoy: "That would like, hurt your
>colon. A lot."

I about fell off my chair when he said that. LOL!

I also immediately thought, now there's a boy who most likely had toilet training issues. Well, I take that back. He probably didn't. But his mom probably did. You know, one of those ones that keeps a chart of bowel movements on the refrigerator door. LOL!


"And now the whole nation -- pulpit and all -- will take up the war-cry, and shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man who ventures to open his mouth; and presently such mouths will cease to open. Next the statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked, and every man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception." Mark Twain


"RE: Horribly Offended!."
Posted by Snidget on 09-20-07 at 03:14 PM
That is a bit far south for Grizzleys. You wouldn't want the poor bear to be alone if it escaped.

Cougars live in the area as do black bears, but I think the cougar would be the way to go.



"RE: Horribly Offended!."
Posted by Tahj on 09-20-07 at 04:15 PM
Sophie's an adult in an adolescent's body. Seriously, I'd follow her anywhere.


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"I was impressed"
Posted by moonbaby on 09-20-07 at 06:48 PM
She's very take charge, seems very articulate and intelligent. The Greg kid disturbs me. Perhaps that's just the edit and he will earn a gold star in the future. But sheesh- it's like they said "OK, now we need the bully, cast HIM, he's perfect!"

"RE: I was impressed"
Posted by Tahj on 09-21-07 at 11:14 AM
Yep. And the kids they chose for the council? Total setup.



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"RE: I was impressed"
Posted by foonermints on 09-21-07 at 02:20 PM
Nothing like having DeadSquirrelHair and the board members show up in a helicopter, after you've been sitting on an old dusty schoolbus for a while.

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Heavens no, that might cause some resentment.


"Favorite quotes"
Posted by PhoenixMons on 09-22-07 at 12:38 PM
First of all, TOTALLY not offended and I'd have loved to do something like this when I was a kid!

On to the quotes:

pretty much anything out of Jared's mouth was hilarious

"Dude, we gotta focus on what we're gonna eat for dinner" (after Anjay talks about making ice cream and rock candy, lol)

of coure Michael's speech

And my absolute favorite:

"Are we supposed to live here? It's in disarray...it's a mattress with some heinous looking stuff on it" LMAO


"RE: Offended/not offended?: premiere."
Posted by mysticwolf on 09-21-07 at 04:29 PM
DH and I liked it. He has to record it for me to watch after I get home from choir, otherwise you'd see me in the ECUT. The kids reminded us of the Zoo Teens. With the exception of the budding graffiti artist, they struck us as intelligent, resourceful, and mature for their ages. At least so far.


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"RE: Offended/not offended?: premiere."
Posted by Sunny_Bunny on 09-22-07 at 04:56 PM
LAST EDITED ON 09-22-07 AT 04:57 PM (EST)

My favorite part of this show was how the girl who wanted the bike went out and found a way to get it. Did she try the "lets pool together and get a bike for the team? No. This one wanted it for herself, and found a creative way to get it! And the coolest thing? Her team mates cheered for her when she rode off on it.

I was also impressed that they chose function over luxury. If I were to offer something similar to the freshmen students I talked about in OT, I think they would have chosen the TV without missing a beat.

Favorite quote: "I'm a beauty pageant queen. I don't do dishes!"

ETA: I totally fell in love with that precious sweetie who chose to go home.


"RE: Offended/not offended?: premiere."
Posted by Memaw on 09-25-07 at 10:17 AM
"ETA: I totally fell in love with that precious sweetie who chose to go home."

Me too! I was really hoping that he would change his mind. However, he still gets "kudo's" from me for knowing what he can and can not handle at the tender age of 8.


"not offended - 3rd episode"
Posted by kingfish on 10-04-07 at 10:12 AM
Finally watched it.

Not offended, actually pretty amused, 10 yr. old Taylor is a future politician/firebrand.

Got a little concerned with the windstorm, the kids (esp. the littlest) could be blown around pretty easily I think.

If I had been one of the cameramen, I think I would have had to anchor a few of them down, tie them to a rock (kidding), get them into shelter, or something other than continue to shoot video.