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"Premiere Date?"

Posted by BrassFan on 01-13-10 at 10:06 AM
I dont get it....

Why isn't CBS premiering the show following the SuperBowl? Why hold it an extra 4 days, when you could put it on following one of, if not THE, most watched TV events of the year?


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"RE: Premiere Date?"
Posted by jbug on 01-13-10 at 10:23 AM
1. Because by the time the Super Bowl is over, so many people will be drunk or asleep they'd miss it.

2. Survivor is always on Thursday night - except for the finale.


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"RE: Premiere Date?"
Posted by RocketScientist on 01-13-10 at 10:27 AM
Thanks JBug, that pretty well covers it!

"RE: Premiere Date?"
Posted by BrassFan on 01-13-10 at 10:43 AM
>1. Because by the time
>the Super Bowl is over,
>so many people will be
>drunk or asleep they'd miss
>it.

Guaranteed ratings, then. TVs left on will count, I'm sure.

>2. Survivor is always on
>Thursday night - except for
>the finale.

and, the premiere of Survivor: All-Stars, which debuted right after the SuperBowl.


"RE: Premiere Date?"
Posted by Snidget on 01-13-10 at 10:47 AM
But Survivor isn't the one and only show they have to promote.

If they think another show needs a jump start it will get the slot.

Survivor will probably do fine either way, but if they can turn another show into a hit that will do more than adding a couple of people to those who are going to watch this season of survivor anyway.


"RE: Premiere Date?"
Posted by RocketScientist on 01-13-10 at 11:06 AM
I don't know about other people, can't speak for them, but I am an avid Football fan and for the duration of the Superbowl you'd need a specialist to surgically remove my butt from my recliner if you wanted me to go anywhere.

That having been said, after 4 hours of staring hypnotically into my wide screen it really is time for a break...

If Survivor came on directly following the SB, I think many would:

a. Be returning from whatever bar or whomever's home they were watching it
b. Be trying to get rid of all the people who came over to watch it,
c. Be kind burnt out after absorbing all the gamma radiation from thier chinese made tele's
d. Be too upset because they didn't make the spread.

or...

e. Be too happy because they picked the right box in the office pool and won 5 million dollars (hahaha).


"RE: Premiere Date?"
Posted by Snidget on 01-13-10 at 11:25 AM
Regardless of what you do after the Super Bowl thing or think others would do after the umpteen hours of Super Bowl and pre-shows, etc. the post Super Bowl spot does seem to get good ratings and is seen as a way to launch a new show or get people fired up about an existing show.

It is about the ratings and if that slot never helped any show they'd just plug it full of an infomercial or something equally dull.

How much is the buzz (as usually the show gets some media coverage for winning the slot) and how much is people actually watch the show I dunno. However they wouldn't be using the slot for show promotion if it didn't work. There are cheaper ways to fill that slot.


"RE: Premiere Date?"
Posted by RocketScientist on 01-13-10 at 12:12 PM
LAST EDITED ON 01-13-10 AT 12:14 PM (EST)

Like I said, I can't (and won't) speak for everyone...

I guess I just don't fall into the sheep catagory, (e.g., Don't worry, they're like sheep, they'll follow along and watch whatever we show after the SuperBowl).

After all, what other way can you explain the (questionable) supposition that whatever follows the SuperBowl will have high ratings/viewership - people are too lazy to change the channel?...

Then there are the actual figures.. In Feb 2009 97.8 million people watched the SuperBowl, 22.9 million watched what came after it, (The Office).

Funny - the actual numbers tell another story than I am reaing in some of these posts...

In fact - over 75% of watchers were motivated to change the channel rather than watch whatever followed SuperBowl XLIII.

On the other hand we could look at WHAT followed the game rather than simply assume that the follower would be watched...

(by millions of viewers vs ratings)

1996 NBC Friends 52.925 million viewers
2001 CBS Survivor II 45.369 million viewers
1977 NBC Disney’s "Kit Carson" 42.816 million viewers
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2004 CBS Survivor All-Star 33.535 million viewers

Pretty wide variation, maybe there are a lot of us non-sheep out here...


"RE: Premiere Date?"
Posted by Snidget on 01-13-10 at 12:53 PM
Regardless of how you judge other people, I assumed that if the network is going to bother spending money to put a show on after the Super Bowel they only do so because it makes them more money than it costs.

They are a business after all. If they weren't getting a return for putting either a new show on afterward or a special (and usually more costly) episode of a regular show on they would stop doing it.

Unless of course you are talking NBC, I have doubts about their understanding of any sort of business model at this time.


"RE: Premiere Date?"
Posted by RocketScientist on 01-13-10 at 01:21 PM
judge other people?

The only ones trying to judge other people are those who presume to know what people will do following the SuperBowl.

It's a crap shoot, the historical data proves that beyond any doubt, and, there doesn't seem to be very much data which supports the opinion (which bloggers and pundits are putting out there) that any given network is basing grave decisions on it. The specttrum of shows, how long they've been on, whether they're "premiers" or not... it's all over the board.

There are as many reasons for and against watching as there are viewers. What the data shows is that, it seems a great many people, (like myself and others who have posted here), will tune into the shows they like to watch regardless of what precedes or follows them - and regardless of what the Networks think or want us to do... ;)


"RE: Premiere Date?"
Posted by BrassFan on 01-14-10 at 03:52 PM
>Then there are the actual figures..
>In Feb 2009 97.8 million
>people watched the SuperBowl, 22.9
>million watched what came after
>it, (The Office).
>
>Funny - the actual numbers tell
>another story than I am
>reaing in some of these
>posts...

Do they tell a different story? What were the ratings on the other episodes of The Office that season? Were they as high as the 22.9 million that watched it following the Superbowl? Was that higher than the average of the previous season? Did The Office last season see an overall increase in viewers (In other words, did it pick up new viewers as a result of following the Superbowl?)

>On the other hand we could
>look at WHAT followed the
>game rather than simply assume
>that the follower would be
>watched...
>
>(by millions of viewers vs ratings)
>
>1996 NBC Friends 52.925 million viewers
>2001 CBS Survivor II 45.369 million viewers
>1977 NBC Disney’s "Kit Carson" 42.816 million viewers
>2004 CBS Survivor All-Star 33.535 million viewers
>
>Pretty wide variation, maybe there are
>a lot of us non-sheep
>out here...

But, those numbers don't show what the Superbowl viewership was that year, so there's no way to know how many people hung around to watch.


"RE: Premiere Date?"
Posted by grit on 01-13-10 at 11:54 AM
My husband and I don't watch the Stupor Bowl.

The Stupor Bowl never ends on time.

We're not going to sit through the last 5 minutes of the game (which takes about an hour to play - I still can't figure that one out) in order to catch Survivor or any other show.

I'm glad Survivor is going to be in it's usual timeslot.


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"RE: Premiere Date?"
Posted by RocketScientist on 01-13-10 at 02:12 PM
LAST EDITED ON 01-13-10 AT 02:13 PM (EST)

>My husband and I don't watch
>the Stupor Bowl.
>
>The Stupor Bowl never ends on
>time.
>
>We're not going to sit through
>the last 5 minutes of
>the game (which takes about
>an hour to play -
>I still can't figure that
>one out) in order to
>catch Survivor or any other
>show.
>
>I'm glad Survivor is going to
>be in it's usual timeslot.
>
>
>
>another agman creation

5 minutes = 1 hour?

Heck, that's nothing.

The (supposed) "Doomsday Clock" hasn't moved 13 minutes in 63 years!!! (Silly scientists, tricks are for kids!)



"RE: Premiere Date?"
Posted by grit on 01-13-10 at 02:29 PM
Well, I don't know anything about that. I'm just talking about Survivor here. It's not rocket science, y'know.

If you want to talk about silly scientists and the Doomsday clock, maybe you want to mosey over to this forum.


another agman creation


"RE: Premiere Date?"
Posted by RocketScientist on 01-13-10 at 02:39 PM
LAST EDITED ON 01-13-10 AT 02:59 PM (EST)

Actually most of your post was a denegration of something you refered to as "the Stuporbowl"...

Shall I point you to the Off Topics Sports forum?


"RE: Premiere Date?"
Posted by grit on 01-13-10 at 03:02 PM
LAST EDITED ON 01-13-10 AT 03:02 PM (EST)

Not looking to denigrate the Super Bowl. This place is called Survivor Blows. That's what we do around here - snark. Stick around longer than a day or two and you'll see that for yourself.

The original topic was about Survivor not premiering after the Super Bowl. Everyone can chime in about how they feel about that. Looks like I'm on topic.


another agman creation


"RE: Premiere Date?"
Posted by RocketScientist on 01-13-10 at 03:45 PM
LAST EDITED ON 01-13-10 AT 04:12 PM (EST)

LAST EDITED ON 01-13-10 AT 03:47 PM (EST)

Ok, I gotcha...

Well I am trying to learn, I think I have shown that pretty consistantly through my posts.

I am sorry that I haven't been here as long as you have, but since you've been here so long perhaps you can help me by telling me if I have gotten your "lesson" correctly...

I can write a post
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this long, denegrating anything in the topic header I want to, and as long as I end it with a couple of words about Survivor I'll be on topic?

And you said: "This place is called Survivor Blows"... Hmpf... Again, I'm just a newbie, but, I thought this was the Survivor Fanatics board... Survivor Blows huh? I would have though that would have been with the Survivor Bashers board or something...

"I like to watch Survivor because Survivor is fun to watch..."


* HA - you thought I'd forget that last part didn't you...


"A Little Precision"
Posted by michel on 01-13-10 at 09:51 PM
This board changed names a while ago to RealityTVWorld but, in the old days, it was called "Survivor Blows". We first got here to talk about Survivor, b*tch about the stupid DAWS (Desperate Attention Whores we called them) and their stupid way of playing or producing or editing this show we liked... well sort of... or maybe not!

"RE: A Little Precision"
Posted by RocketScientist on 01-13-10 at 11:08 PM
Spoil Sport!

(sigh, is it ALWAYS like this?)

OK. Fine. Let us be precise...

(and I wouldn't do this for just anyone Michel)

What is this forum called, (precisely), today: 13 January 2010?

Did she say "it is called" or "it used to be called"

AHHH-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA...

(that was my most maniacal laugh, just in case you're interested...)


"RE: Premiere Date?"
Posted by Estee on 01-13-10 at 12:37 PM
Because Undercover Boss is just that good.

I almost got that out with a straight face.


"RE: Premiere Date?"
Posted by michel on 01-13-10 at 09:54 PM
What the heck is Undercover Boss? I had heard they were doing a survey to see which show would win the spot between Survivor, HIMYMother, BigBang and some of the many versions of CSI or NCIS.

"RE: Premiere Date?"
Posted by Estee on 01-13-10 at 09:57 PM
Other than being the winner of the pimp spot, it's a reality show where owners of businesses and CEOs of corporations take entry-level jobs in their own operations to find out what things are really like. They interact with the peons. Do the grunt work. Get yelled at by supervisors. Reveal who they really are. And fire everyone.

It's an American love story.


"RE: Premiere Date?"
Posted by michel on 01-13-10 at 11:26 PM
So, it's the "Rich Mole messing with regular people" and the regular people have nothing to gain except look like fools? Sounds like I'll be going to bed after the Super Bowl.