whats happenin folks? just thought i'd add my two cents to the subject, and ask you fine spoiling people a question.

2 cents first: i am a newbie, and i sure as heck pay homage to y'all for your spoiling. in my opinion, i don't think ethan will quit because the guy is a competitor, and i don't think qutting is an option for him (professional soccer player and all)

now my question: i read a post on here about a week ago from some dude named pig spanker 3000, claiming that another site uncovered the boot order. the thread got locked, but i looked at it tonight and it did have the last 2 boots correct, even correctly stating that sue would quit. so i just want to know why you guys think that list is wrong?
(because i like it a lot more than the other lists)

thanks

>>now my question: i read a
>post on here about a
>week ago from some dude
>named pig spanker 3000, claiming
>that another site uncovered the
>boot order. the thread got
>locked, but i looked at
>it tonight and it did
>have the last 2 boots
>correct, even correctly stating that
>sue would quit. so i
>just want to know why
>you guys think that list
>is wrong?
>(because i like it a lot
>more than the other lists)

now, here's your answer: Shut up.

>
>thanks

...your very welcome.

ROTFL

you just gotta love shakes sometimes.

If Ethan does throw a big, fat hissy and quits -- then why portray him so sympathetically? (that's not 'pathetically', Shakes). I think he is portrayed as the nice guy... he does not ever complain or #####, in fact, he really seems to be a good guy --- he goofs up on the challenges... what kind of threat could he possibly be? .. everyone knows he won't win, why not take him with ya? I hope the "fit thing " is wrong, I just can't see any justification in the editing for him being a whiner/quitter. I don't see the setup at all. In fact, I have a theory that maybe he could go far, I know, all the spoilers are against me,and Boston Rob probably has it out for him, but for a strong player, Ethan really is not edited as a threat. I am a newbie and you are the expert Shakes, but I am the "average" viewer and Burnett has to play up that, he hasn't made me want the Ethan boot yet, like all the others before him.

...Ethan quitting is contingent on the "crisis mode" spoiler, which if accurate means that it has to happen this episode.

The problem I'm having, then, is that if we know the next two boots are Ethan and Jerri I just can't come up with a plausible scenario that has Ethan going before Jerri.

Actually, I can come up with one. Merge, Ethan goes next. Then, in the next ep, Lex wins immunity and Chapera decides to spare Kathy as a possible recruit for down the road and instead votes out Jerri or ShiAnn....Jerri could and probably would get the boot at that point.

But, another problem is that Jerri's story/character arc totally peaked tonight with her accomplsihing her lone goal of beating Colby. In editing terms, that means she is free to boot now...as in next episode.

We saw Day 19.

When they arrive for the RC on Day 20, they merge.
And Ethan decides to quit. No IC.
Day 21, crisis mode.

Next boot: Jerri

Is it possible that the ambassadors become a part of the other tribe for one Immunity Challenge, and are immune for that tribe kinda like Rupert last season, then we merge in Ep. 9. This would be perfect for a Jerri boot next week, and an Ethan boot post-merge in Ep. 9.

Forgive my stupidity, but wasn't there a teaser clip at the end of last weeks show where we are told someone else quit and then we see Shian and others act shocked?

If this is so, and if Ethan (or someone) does quit on day 21, then I think we can assume that it didn't happen at the tribal council as the surprising information was disclosed in daylight. Unless of course, that clip was from the day after.

Then again, maybe I was hallucinating and I misunderstood the preview clip last week (that I looked for this week).

damn senior moments

Any one of these scenarios is possible and logical.
The original quitter spoilers came from what source? Varner? Knowing the specific wording might shed some light.
I thought it was mentioned that, after JennaM, "another player quits." Sounds like one person (Sue).
That's not to say there couldn't be another, but if the original info was from Varner, my guess is he'd be hinting more at another departure as it neared.

LAST EDITED ON 03-12-04 AT 06:39 AM (EST)

>The problem I'm having, then, is
>that if we know the
>next two boots are Ethan
>and Jerri I just can't
>come up with a plausible
>scenario that has Ethan going
>before Jerri.

It makes sense to me. They merge. Ethan is perceived as a strong IC threat and they know he's won in this game before, so don't give him a chance to win ICs. Ethan used to date Lamber so Rob wants to dump him. Jenna wants all former winners out (especially one that she used to date!). Rob likes having the ladies around and he hasn't had to deal with Jerri yet, so she hasn't had a chance to annoy him enough to push her over the side of the boat. We've already seen Rob's "pretty boy" contempt for Ethan.

So that's how Ethan is more likely to go before Jerri. I agree that if Mogo Mogo stay together, Jerri would probably be the more likely boot before Ethan.

>But, another problem is that Jerri's
>story/character arc totally peaked tonight
>with her accomplsihing her lone
>goal of beating Colby.
>In editing terms, that means
>she is free to boot
>now...as in next episode.

That's troubling me as well. My only thought is that she's now "useless" and ready to be discarded at a moment's notice, in terms of editing.

I dont have much to add to this discussion but a former survivor Susan Cooper??? was on the Early News this morning saying that next week Mogo Mogo implodes. Did anyone else catch that this morning?

"Winter toast by JSlice"

I thought Ethan dated the other Jenna (the one who left to be with her mom).

I could be mistaken but he has gone out with Amber and Jenna L. He currently going out with Jenna M. Anyone, please correct me if I am wrong.

I think he is currently dating Jenna M (as you stated). In a chat with Jenna M, they asked her about a crush on Ethan and she made some comment as how it was more than a crush and it was both ways. It is like one big incestual survivor sex pool.

Ethan has dated both Jennas and Amber.

Snarky, smart, S7 Anti-Bootee Champ

So we need to line up another Amber for him?

Thanks! I wasn't aware that he dated Jenna from season 1. ICK! What was he thinking??

Could Ethan have seen the consequences of an Osten style quitting before "All Stars" started? I mean two left before TC, but I can't imagine they wouldn't wait until TC to officially lay down Ethan's torch.

LAST EDITED ON 03-12-04 AT 09:22 AM (EST)

Well, as far as rationale for boots goes, I'm with Pepe's logic as stated above....If they merge, I would have to say that Ethan would be the most likely boot, if no merge, then I'd have to say that Jerri's edit is done.

As far as Ethan quitting, he was quoted in the Survivor Insider after last nights episode as saying he voted for Jerri, because as far as she was concerned she had quit the game the night of the big storm...and he did'nt have any respect for quitters, blah, blah, blah... I just can't see Ethan quitting.

Perhaps, the ambassadors from each tribe just go over to the other tribe to live for awhile, yet no merge next week. Robfadda is picked as the ambassador for Chappy, and the sparks start to fly between him and Ethan...thus leading to the hissy fit, perhaps he expresses his desire to quit....blah, blah, blah.
Or, perhaps Ethan is the ambassador for the Mogo's and goes to live with the Chappy's. With no one around to shield him, and play the diplomat, Robfadda lights into him causing Ethan to rant and rave and tell Jiffy that he wants to go back to his own tribe, the Mogo's right now, or I'll quit?

Flower I like that theory a lot. Ethan would be one of the ones chosen to go over as ambassador because his alliance with Colby was smashed last night. When the ambassador's at Marquesas went, they were virtually the tribe outsiders(Kathy and Rob). In so much as Rob was pretty well on the outs with the rotu4, and maybe he thought he could get back in good graces if it was a challenge, and Kathy hadn't really bonded with anyone at that point of the game.

I can see Lex sending Ethan over to Chapera, because he won't want Ethan to get a chance to connive with his harem at any point. Besides, any chance to weaken the big physical threat at this point is in Lex's best interest, as was shown last night as well.

I must add though, that after watching last night's episode, Ethan is getting the "good guy" editing again. He just seems to be so lucky and so humble. A former winner still around at this point just makes me wonder, could he be going a lot farther then we give credit to?

I can see the producers begging Ethan not to quit if they have any inkling. However, if he breaks a bone, there may not be a choice as to his leaving.

That being said the producers need to come up with an alternate game plan for quiters then just not having a tribal counsel.

Here's a possibility:

Have alternate survivors living in the losers camp or one like it. They live meagerly (like the ghost tribe) and if one of the other tribe members quit, the Alternate team has a challenge with each other and the winner gets to go onto the team who lost a member due to quitting. The new member gets immunity and can't be voted off. Then the challenge for immunity takes place and the losing team goes to tribal counsel.

LAST EDITED ON 03-12-04 AT 11:55 AM (EST)

I've long assumed that Ethan's hissy fit was going to come about pretty much how you describe it here.

Ethan *might* start making noises about quitting, which would certainly send Jeff and the production crew into a tizzy -- "oh no, not again!" Or maybe he just gets so agitated and vocal (like Sue) that they anticipate he's gonna quit. "Crisis mode" may just mean that they were really, really worried about more people quitting by that point, not that someone else actually did it.

I think Ethan doesn't actually quit, whenever he leaves. If he mentions quitting, either he's not completely serious about it, or he gets talked out of it somehow (by Jeff?).

But I do agree with you that Jerri's imminent boot was wrapped up with a bow last night, and it seems like she should go next. I guess she could semi-disappear for one week though.