The initial urgency with Jill's tumor was the doc's concern that it was originating from her ovary (which can be very painful and life-threatening).

Further testing revealed that her ovaries weren't affected and it wasn't a "singular" 40# tumor, but multiple tumors that were endometrial in origin--hence, no urgency, not life-threatening.

Jill was told that it would be better to lose some weight before she had the surgery. All that adipose tissue would make healing difficult. The doc's also gave her drugs that would shrink the tumors somewhat, making it a little more comfortable for her while she lost weight.

Last report I heard was Jill had lost 60 pounds and had not yet had the surgery.

If I remember correctly from back then, part of the issue in delaying the surgery was also that after losing her job she had no medical insurance to pay for the cost of surgery. Though I agree, there is very likely some fear/avoidance going on as well.

As I've said before in another thread, the word "tumor" can be very alarming. What Jill has is fibroid tumors. Jill went to one doctor selected by the SO staff and he was the one that shot out the alarming words "forty pound tumor." He also said that Jill must have surgery right away and that it was vital and life-threatening.

So Jill and Iyanla decided that Jill should seek state aid in paying for her care (even though she is not a resident of the state of California). When she applied she was told to get a second opinion - this time by a doctor appointed by the state. So this doctor determined that the situation was not as serious as the first doctor stated (in that she wouldn't die if she didn't have surgery right away). He recommended that Jill lose a significant amount of weight before having surgery.

And here we are a year later wondering if Jill has had surgery for her non-cancerous fibroid tumors. And wondering if Jill has lost anymore weight. She has lost weight and is taking medication to shrink the fibroid tumors. She has not had surgery.

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Didn't Jill have a stroke the first time she had an operation on the tumor years ago? BTW...... Living large was Allisons' goal, which I found ironic since living large can be used to describe someone living beyond their means ( that's how I first heard it 13 years ago) or it can be used for a large sized person. ( Yes, I know how Ilyanla intended its meaning as applied to Allison) I can see how this could've been confused for Jill's goal (maybe it WAS hers' also and I'm mistaken) Anyway the expression has irony, as it can be used positively or negatively. Not so easy to find a good ironic expression like that! Gotta love it!!!

The tumor, IMO, would be far easier to safely remove after using medication to shrink it. Weight loss, too, would make the surgery safer. IMO, with less likelihood of another stroke. And, Jill's second MD discovered that the tumor wasn't life threatening enough for immediate surgery.

Jill did have a stroke with the first surgery. I think her weight may of been a factor in that. However she did know that she had that one tumor left over from it. She was told by the doctor it couldn't be removed due to it's placement. I think it was on an artery?

I don't think the second doctor was wrong for telling her to lose weight before a surgery like that again. He's probably suggesting it to avoid all the possible complications that could cause. (ie stroke!)

I think SO played up the tumor as much as it does all the other little nothings. Like Bethany's big secret that made her forget everything.

I truly don't believe S.O. played up the "forty lb. tumor". I believe Iyanla had a legitimate concern and I feel she did everything in her power to get Jill motivated to do something about it without insurance. I also believe that if Jill received health insurance right now and lost the necessary weight for surgery, she would still not have the surgery.

You see, THAT is the thing that really bugs (bugged) me about SO-they start out with this BIG DEAL going on (we could sit here for days naming them), then before you know it, nothing else is said, and it's just gone to the way side, like it never happened! WHAT IS UP WITH THAT??

Are they just trying to drive us crazy, make us pay attention, or do they think we're so stupid that we'll just totally forget things like a 40# tumor, a drinking problem, an internet porn site, migraines that are life-threatening, etc.

I can see why so many people are getting fed up with this show! It's nerve-wracking to get so involved in someone's life, then have thoe attachments just blown out the window like yesterday's dust! Ah well, the drama of daytime t.v., eh??

>You see, THAT is the thing
>that really bugs (bugged) me
>about SO-they start out with
>this BIG DEAL going on
>(we could sit here for
>days naming them), then before
>you know it, nothing else
>is said, and it's just
>gone to the way side,
>like it never happened! WHAT
>IS UP WITH THAT??

You said it perfectly. That's SO in a nutshell.. Huge deal then....NOTHING! Very unresolved.

If they ever wonder what happened to make them lose alot of their viewers, that editing trick of the huge build up and then a flat fall would be why!

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Well it makes sense why the show won't be returning. Eventually antics like the ones Starting Over's producers pulled routinely, have all back fired. The viewers can only take so much of the show's stupidity-- such antics insult people's intelligence and also compromises the integrity of the houseguests.

And, let's not forget the promise Rhonda made at some of her seminars last year, to reveal the particulars of the breakin that occurred on the 12/07/04 episode.

>And, let's not forget the promise
>Rhonda made at some of
>her seminars last year, to
>reveal the particulars of the
>breakin that occurred on the
>12/07/04 episode.

The "break-in" was the production team making a huge mess as an exercise in co-operation for the housemates who at that point were not bonding. It was also for Allison, to see how freaked out she'd get at the mess.

Other posters are free to concur or dispute this, but that's what I saw when I watched the re-runs again this summer.

I think the break in was the season two break in that people have mentioned. The one that was hyped up to look like Sommer had a hand in it and then the whole thing was conviently dropped and nothing was mentioned of it again. imo

>I think the break in was
>the season two break in
>that people have mentioned. The
>one that was hyped up
>to look like Sommer had
>a hand in it and
>then the whole thing was
>conviently dropped and nothing was
>mentioned of it again. imo

Oh, Okay. I didn't know B&M had used that "trick" before.

This thread is to discuss Jill and her tumor removal. Bring it back on topic, please. There are other threads to discuss the life coaches, other HGs, etc.

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