Sorry....Rich referred to himself as the Fat Naked Fag many times during the first season: I always thought it was funny. That was my reference...didn't mean to offend. I'll shut up and go back to lurking.......

is ok, rich is a fatnakedfag, he likes it like that

Its ok Connie! Don't go back to lurking, just have to remember we have all sorts of folks posting here.

What jkokoj said.

That's what Hatch calls himself!! Good grief, don't be so hypersensitive!!

Connie, just abbreviate it "FNF" and you'll be fine.

"But here is my interpretation. After watching and re-watching the first episode."

I'm so jealous, I haven't even been able to watch it for the first time yet. I remember my younger days when I could stay up til 12. Having an infant who wakes up at 3 a.m. really makes you old quick.

Tom said something right before he said (I think, hard to tell!), "This game is for the big boys," that made me say "Hello, key confessional," but I just can't remember what it was. Since I didn't tape, Tuesday's replay will fill in my blank.

i was thinking the "This game's not for the little boys (?) it's for the big boys" was a direct slam at the size of robm's sausage.

oops, wrong forum

I had forgotten about this quote from Big Tom, and now it seems Rob C's comment in Eps. 3 is even more relevant.

During the RC when he and Alicia (who does not seem too impressed with him) were sent off to find rocks (or something) for the new shelter (while everyone else was actually building the shelter), Rob said something about how it was customary for him to not get to "play with the big boys" or something to that effect.

I'm obviously not sure of his actual words, but there are 2 things lead me to believe that Rob C. does not last long in ASS:

1) Big Tom's statement about Survivor being "a game for the big boys" paired with Rob's statement about not getting to "play with the big boys" AND...

2) the fact that although Rob C. is a terrific comedian and was edited as a HUGE player in 'Survivor: Amazon' because a) he was so darn entertaining and b) he made it to F3, he has not been seen very much at all this season, despite his entertainment value and the popularity he has garnered with fans.

Looks like we have his story in the bag. He's definitely on his way. Not sure if he's next, but he's definitely soon.

~ EmRB

>#2:
>Alicia: "The first tribe, in this
>game, that gets water and
>fire, is the tribe that's
>gonna go the farthest."
>
>Let's keep an eye open for
>who is first to achieve
>fire. The winner will be
>from that team.

This picture appears to show Rupert jumping up and down as Ethan and Rudy smile...given their dire circumstances, fire is probably the only thing that would produce this reaction...this doesn't mean that Saboga is first, just they they appear to finally get fire as well...

Krautboy

that is an interesting observation KB...because history has shown that the tribe that takes the first casualty usually produces the winner...of course, as you say, it doesn't mean Sabotage gets it first, and with 3 tribes, the dynamics are changed somewhat (however, it would make sense for the two smallest tribes to join together to oust the largest, which could lead to a Sabotage winner)

that is an interesting observation KB...because history has shown that the tribe that takes the first casualty usually produces the winner...of course, as you say, it doesn't mean Sabotage gets it first, and with 3 tribes, the dynamics are changed somewhat (however, it would make sense for the two smallest tribes to join together to oust the largest, which could lead to a Sabotage winner)

LOL "Sabotage", IAmHe! And I kept thinking Jiffy was saying "Shapiro" whenever he mentioned Chapera

Gotta think of a good one for MogaMoga. (Unga Bunga? That's from an old dirty joke not suited for this PG-13 board.)

well, my names are Mojo Jojo, Sabotage, and ChapYerAss

well, my names are Mojo Jojo, Sabotage, and ChapYerAss

Mojo Jojo? So you are declaring that the tribe is to be referred to by the appellation Mojo Jojo? In fact you are stating that the name of the tribe is Mojo Jojo? The tribe shall be called by the name you declare to be Mojo Jojo? Awesome.

Buttercup rules!

I mentioned the same thing in Bungler's vid cap thread but I'm just not as sure this morning as I was last night. I'd fell more confident if I saw a flame or smoke, of course, but MB wouldn't give us that much. I'd also expect Ethan and Rudy to be a bit more excited as well. They appear to be more amused than happy and relieved.

But what else could cause this reaction from Rupe?

Let's go with fire.

Could this image go with that one? Everyone is overjoyed with their fire.

Jerri hugs Jenna as they shed tears of joy.

Rupert, Ethan and Rudy are also happy about it.

---
UDG

Ugd, I think that's the best explanation so far.

The previews also so Ethan and Rupert with very low spirits...building up to this elation and tears of joy.

Krautboy

LAST EDITED ON 02-03-04 AT 04:38 AM (EST)

Hold on, has this already happened?

"The first tribe, in this game, that gets water and fire, is the tribe that's gonna go the farthest."

Alicia, who said the line, is from... Chapera.
The first tribe shown to get water (though dirty) is... Chapera.
The first tribe to get fire (Immunity Challenge) is... Chapera.
And the spoilers say the tribe that goes far is... Chapera.

Can this mean anything?

Just watched the show during lunch and something stuck out during TC. Not a key "confessional" per se, however a key statement.

He said something to the effect of "gotta think about my wife and daughter . . . maybe this time I'll do better."

...I thought after watching the show that there was one clear cut favorite for the key confessional award...and so far no one has noted it.

I don't know the exact quote offhand, but it was when RobM said something to the effec that "we are the underdogs in this game".

Now, I'm not sure if this was in reference to the whole Shapiro tribe or just in reference to his alliance with Lamber, but either way it fits with the speculated final 2 of Lamber/Robfather.

But, my only concern comes from the long held belief that "strategies revealed do not succeed." How do we jive that long held belief with the admission of the Lamber/Robfather alliance in the very first ep of the show?

My one rationalizing thought is that since this is the Allstars edition things are a little changed in terms of story editing. Maybe MB wants us to see that the winner's had their strategy since day one so we'll respect them more when that day comes. Also, with the rumors of our first ever Survivor romance maybe MB wants to milk that storyline as long and as throroughly as he can, therefore why not hint at in the first ep.

Other key confessionals include...

**the obvious future demise of the Rupert/Rudy alliance that will most likely end next ep with Rupert showing his true colors.

**Dique saying that he can start a fire whenever he wants which will play into his smuggling of matches.

personally, i think the sabooboos have all fallen back on their previous game strategies, with the possible exception of jerri (tina hates me stuff aside). jenna l. is still annoyingly verbous.

tina tried to make ethan her colby this time, didn't work.

rob m is still playing the take me to final 2 strategy, i think amber should have more going for her than that in order to win at the end. augmented boobies or not.

My one rationalizing thought is that since this is the Allstars edition things are a little changed in terms of story editing. Maybe MB wants us to see that the winner's had their strategy since day one so we'll respect them more when that day comes. Also, with the rumors of our first ever Survivor romance maybe MB wants to milk that storyline as long and as throroughly as he can, therefore why not hint at in the first ep.

I think this could be the case. When has an F2 alliance been formed on day 1 and gone all the way to the end? Never.

And there's no reason why MB can't change things up. After 7 Survivors, a lot of viewers have probably figured out that when an alliance is revealed early on, it's always going to tank. Those people are now expecting that Rob/Amber will be toast at some point. They'll be surprised if they actually make it all the way to F2.