i think more of the boxers should listen to Jeremy he's good and he knows everything about boxing and does a hell of a better job then tommy on the insperational side of things i mean what did tommy say in torres corner lol... BOX THIS GUY lol thats all i mean in Belletto's corner jeremy was like look at your kids your doing it for them and everything if im fighting i want him in my corner anyday over tommy

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Actually, Tommy is a world class trainer who has worked with world champions, and I would say he knows the boxing game much more than Jeremy and I think Jeremy would admit that he could learn a great deal from Tommy.

A fighter has to want to be trained and he has to want to take direction. Torres is the kind of fighter that a trainer would hate because he has such great talent but his head is on backwards.

As for Jeremy, then I think that his style is most definitely not what you would see in a "regular" boxing fight. You will never see trainers telling a fighter in the corner to look over at their family etc. etc. I think Teddy Atlas said it best when he said that they put that kind of training style on the show for ratings and for more of a hollywood acting type of look, rather than serious boxing training. You will only see it on TV.

How many times have you heard Jeremy actually giving boxing direction in the corner? Then again, we only see what the producers show us!

Don't get me wrong, I think Jeremy could one day be a good trainer but he is still in early training for that. He only stopped fighting himself in 2004. I think what could make him good is not just his knowledge of boxing but the fact that he is personable with fighters.

Tommy isn't a world class trainer. The best boxer he ever trained is Lou Savarese who by the way is a bum.

I never said Tommy was one of "the greatest" trainers, however he is indeed a world class trainer, having worked with fighters and world champions from not only the USA, but also Canada, Russia, Dominican Republic, Italy...among the fighters; former WBO Middleweight Champion Doug Dewitt, WBC & WBA Middleweight Champion Vito Antuofermo who fought to a draw with Marvin Hagler in their first fight, Segundo Mercado who fought to a draw with Bernard Hopkins in their first fight, Merqui Sosa who lost a split decision to James Toney for the IBC Middleweight belt but later went on to beat Glenn Johnson, Donny Lalonde who was the WBC Light Heavyweight Champion and fought Sugar Ray Leonard for 2 different weight-class belts in the same fight and he lost.

As for Lou Savarese; he lost a close split decvision to George Foreman for the WBU Heavyweight title, and he knocked out Buster Douglas in the 1st round for the vacant IBA Heavyweight title. I don't think I could call him a bum.

I am a boxing fan who knows a lot about the sport and I have never heard of any of those fighters except Doug Dewitt and he really wasn't that good at all. Lou Savarese lost a close decision to a old washed up George Foreman and knocked out Buster Douglas who by the way turned into a fat slob after the Mike Tyson fight,and never won anything close to a big fight aftter that. That doesn't seam like a great resume to me.

There are many boxing fans who know alot about the sport. There are also many boxing fans who know alot about the sport who HAVE heard of the fighters that I mentioned.

Again, I never said Tommy was a legndary trainer or that he trained legendary fighters but the bottom line is that he trained several world champions and while you may not know about those fighters, many boxing fans do, and they were world champions. Some of the fighters I mentioned fought to a draw with the best fighters in the world, and one of them beat Glenn Johnson who was Light Heavy champ and probably will beat Clint Woods to be champ again.

I also never said that Lou Savarese was a great fighter or that he had a great resume. I simply said that he wasn't a bum, and nobody who knows about boxing would ever call him a bum. He was a world champion.

Unless of course the only fighters one knows about are the ones they see on TV.

I was mocking Tommy's ringside advice to his fighters in my response to this week's summary ... but I won't deny that Tommy knows what he's doing out there.

Nobody ever "strategizes" at ringside. All you're trying to do is get your fighter to remember the strategy that you've both agreed upon beforehand. In this week's fight, the cut clearly had taken Grady's mind off what he was doing in the ring. In the 5th round, Grady remembered. I don't know if Tommy's cliches played any role in that, but they probably didn't hurt.

As far as bums go, Benji Singleton is a bum. Lou Savarese? Not a bum. Vito Antuofermo? DEFINITELY not a bum, even if Tommy handled him late in his career.

If I was fighting I would much rather have Tommy. He keeps his fighter focused.

If I had a choice of one of those trainers, it would be
Jeremy hands down. He studies his boxers opponent and
gives perfect advice to his boxer. He gives them that
extra inspiration to keep going strong when they get tired.
I thought the way Tommy kept screaming and slapping Torres
was awful. It sure did'nt help his self esteem when he seemed
to need it the most. I thought Aaron Torres did a great job,
but by the way Tommy was acting who could tell?