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"The finale - 4/29"

Posted by Loree on 04-29-04 at 09:38 PM
Are we all watching?

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"yep!"
Posted by moonbaby on 04-29-04 at 10:12 PM
I may not have remembered to watch most of the episodes but I couldn't miss tonight! Unfortunately it's a 2 hour show. UGH.



"RE: The finale - 4/29"
Posted by TheWanderer on 04-29-04 at 10:16 PM
For us impatient West Coasters.... what's happended so far and who does it look like will win?

"RE: The finale - 4/29"
Posted by brvnkrz on 04-29-04 at 10:27 PM
For some reason the SciFi channel plays it at 6:00pm here in SF so I get to watch it early. I don't know why but I am glad. I won't spoil anything but I can't stand Fiona. I find her to be rude and hypocritical. I won't miss watching her one bit.


if you don't have anything nice to say, come sit next to me.
CASH Wine gopher


"RE: The finale - 4/29"
Posted by TheWanderer on 04-29-04 at 10:30 PM
Please... spoil us! I like watching Fiona... she got a hot body!

"RE: The finale - 4/29"
Posted by brvnkrz on 04-29-04 at 10:42 PM
I don't want to spoil on the public forum so go and check your little red flag for your PM box. I will tell you what I know there. Please don't respond to it in the open forum though.


if you don't have anything nice to say, come sit next to me.
CASH Wine gopher


"RE: The finale - 4/29"
Posted by TheWanderer on 04-29-04 at 10:47 PM
fair enough!

"RE: The finale - 4/29"
Posted by pheeann on 04-29-04 at 11:02 PM
I'm in San Diego, and caught the 6pm showing, also. Good lord, I wanted to slap Fiona in the worst way. She defines hypocritcal.

Art, on the other hand, has patience beyond words.


"RE: The finale - 4/29"
Posted by mistofleas on 04-29-04 at 11:07 PM
Agreed agreed agreed!


--also wants to smack Eric upside his smirk as well


"RE: The finale - 4/29"
Posted by brvnkrz on 04-29-04 at 11:10 PM
I'll join Misto in a good Eric ass whooping.


if you don't have anything nice to say, come sit next to me.
CASH Wine gopher


"RE: The finale - 4/29"
Posted by Loree on 04-29-04 at 10:52 PM
OK I did have to giggle at Fiona's little hotpants outfit in the kitchen when she had her fight with Art.

"RE: The finale - 4/29"
Posted by mistofleas on 04-29-04 at 11:07 PM
I agree about Fionas hot pants. I need to ask, if she's consulting a crystal ball to figure out what she's going to wear each morning...she better check that thing for cracks!

Girlfriend has lost any respect I might have had for her. She keeps interupting Art when he's trying to speak. He gets two words out and then she says, "May I speak now? Will you listen like I listened to you?" Even though she didn't listen to him. She didn't let him say his feelings. Then she said it was disrepectful of him to get so angry! Whatever woman. And she dares speak about Nicole not shutting up? Pffft on her I say!

*pauses*

Wow...guess I had some feelings there huh?


--thought it was funny that that while showing the fight they then showed one little snippet of Don peeking out of his coffin then quickly shutting the lid again


"RE: The finale - 4/29"
Posted by pheeann on 04-29-04 at 11:10 PM
Oh, god, yes - the bit with Don peaking out of the coffin was funny!!

"RE: The finale - 4/29"
Posted by brvnkrz on 04-29-04 at 11:13 PM
LAST EDITED ON 04-29-04 AT 11:14 PM (EST)

Misto was in my head through this show. I swear everything you said was almost verbatim what I was spouting off to Girlfriend. I was yelling at Fiona through most of it telling her to shut the hell up. And I too giggled over Don's little peak.


if you don't have anything nice to say, come sit next to me.
CASH Wine gopher


"RE: The finale - 4/29"
Posted by mistofleas on 04-29-04 at 11:21 PM
Misto was in my head through this show

Where else would I be honey?


--likes how brazen decorated the place


"RE: The finale - 4/29"
Posted by brvnkrz on 04-29-04 at 11:24 PM
Thank you for filling the empty space sweetie, I needed the cobwebs cleared.


if you don't have anything nice to say, come sit next to me.
CASH Wine gopher


"RE: The finale - 4/29"
Posted by mistofleas on 04-29-04 at 11:53 PM
Fine, but I don't do windows.


--says eyes, windows into the soul....


"RE: The finale - 4/29"
Posted by brvnkrz on 04-30-04 at 00:06 AM
No problem, Brazen does windows, laundry and vacuums but you have to cook.


if you don't have anything nice to say, come sit next to me.
CASH Wine gopher


"RE: The finale - 4/29"
Posted by mistofleas on 04-30-04 at 00:18 AM
*grabs her knives and saucepans*

You got a deal girl! What do you want?


--makes a mean daube au boef


"RE: The finale - 4/29"
Posted by brvnkrz on 04-30-04 at 00:27 AM
Let's see, Brazen would like Straight Misto to cook whatver she feels is good for the mood. But nothing with fioa gras(sp?)



if you don't have anything nice to say, come sit next to me.
CASH Wine gopher


"RE: The finale - 4/29"
Posted by mistofleas on 04-30-04 at 00:30 AM
Fois gras darlink...fois gras.

And damn, that means no Beef Wellington for you. *pouts*

How about a nice T-Bird...I mean T-Bone steak?


--cross foruming since 5 minutes ago


"RE: The finale - 4/29"
Posted by brvnkrz on 04-30-04 at 00:42 AM
LAST EDITED ON 04-30-04 AT 00:57 AM (EST)

You are too funny girl. And I will take the T-bone on the xtra xtra rare side. As I say in the restaurants, as rare as legally possible to serve. What can I get for you? I used to be a bartender so while you cook, I can mix the drinks.
ETA: If I can't spell it, I shouldn't be eating it.


if you don't have anything nice to say, come sit next to me.
CASH Wine gopher


"RE: The finale - 4/29"
Posted by nerovh on 04-29-04 at 11:15 PM
I also got a big old giggle when Don peeped out of the coffin. It must have been his night, because the bowling vampire was pretty darn funny, too.

"RE: The finale - 4/29"
Posted by brvnkrz on 04-29-04 at 11:16 PM
He was a good little bowler too.


if you don't have anything nice to say, come sit next to me.
CASH Wine gopher


"RE: The finale - 4/29"
Posted by mistofleas on 04-29-04 at 11:20 PM
I thought it was great that the older bowler dude came over to show Don how it's done. Dons words "So it's like thowing knives?" The old dude nodded sagely. Don then proceeded to whip everyones asses!

Dracula in green and orange bowling shoes, classic I tell ya, classic!


--adds that Ta'Shia didn't do bad either


"RE: The finale - 4/29"
Posted by brvnkrz on 04-29-04 at 11:41 PM
Priceless.


if you don't have anything nice to say, come sit next to me.
CASH Wine gopher


"RE: The finale - 4/29"
Posted by Gaelraven on 04-29-04 at 11:32 PM
I believe Fiona is indeed the drama queen.

I was glad with the outcome. Good for Jamie!!!!!

YOU GO GIRL!!!

PS Kelly & TIM SHUT UP!!!!!!


"RE: The finale - 4/29"
Posted by Loree on 04-29-04 at 11:40 PM
Don at the bowling alley was hilarious.

And I had almost forgotten about Kelly. Then she showed up and was more annoying than ever.


"RE: The finale - 4/29"
Posted by pheeann on 04-29-04 at 11:52 PM
Ditto that about Kelly. Good lord, I'd put out of my mind just how annoying she was and then she shows up for dinner. How could the Alts have thought dinner would go anything but awry with her there?

"RE: The finale - 4/29"
Posted by mistofleas on 04-29-04 at 11:56 PM
I must admit, I'm glad I didn't start watching until after she was gone. My goodness...going on about a left wing democratic agenda? Racism? Holy paranoid Republicans Batman!

I was glad when Bonnie told her to give it a rest.

Tim needed a good smack right along with Eric.

Noel needs to move on from the cough medicine thing...or just drink the whole bottle.


--thought Nicole took the whole dinner very well


"RE: The finale - 4/29"
Posted by nerovh on 04-30-04 at 00:07 AM
Hehe, did you see Ta'shia when Kelly starting babbling about that crap? And two seconds later, Kelly's crying and saying how she adores the alts, even the ones she just said she couldn't stand? Looks like they would have learned to keep her away from the wine.

"RE: The finale - 4/29"
Posted by brvnkrz on 04-30-04 at 00:10 AM
I can't believe that girl Kelly is for real. I think she has something wrong with her. She was cracking me up. I don't like to be mean to people, well okay sometimes, but she is one I would go out of my way to upset just because her outbursts are so surreal and funny.


if you don't have anything nice to say, come sit next to me.
CASH Wine gopher


"RE: The finale - 4/29"
Posted by AugustGirl on 04-30-04 at 07:24 AM
Kelly definitely needs a good therapist. The Alts handled her outburst well because if it was me I would have asked her to leave.


Well, actually I would have yanked her out of her chair by her ear and pushed her towards the door. But I'm not as grounded as Art or Avacado.


"RE: The finale - 4/29"
Posted by AugustGirl on 04-30-04 at 07:32 AM
I have to say I was very glad that Jamie and Nicole were the final two, and would be been happy with either of them winning. I have a feeling Jamie needed to win more than Nicole, and not just winning the money, and the Alts knew that.

Here's to Jamie making a new start. You go girl!

And kudo's to Nicole for taking the attacks from Eric and company with class and grace. Is there any reason why Kelly was gone in week two and Nicole stayed til the end? I just wish Bonnie had stayed around longer. What a great lady.


a JSlice original. isn't she something?


"RE: The finale - 4/29"
Posted by Deonna on 04-30-04 at 08:52 AM
I canít help but wonder if people like Fiona or Kelly, feel ashamed watching the show. Some time has passed between when it was filmed verses when it was aired. They both made complete asses of themselves. If they can at least feel shame, then there is hope for them as a person.

I know that Eric and Tim have no regrets. I think that it was ridiculous that Eric made it to the final three, when Bonny was let go earlier.

The show was suppose to be about growing as person (At least that was my take on it) I hope in watching the show that Fiona see that she needs personal growth as much or more than some of the TOPS. She made a fool of herself over Eric. I wanted to slap her as well with the way she treated Art.

Kelly needs serious psychiatric help.

Deonna


"RE: The finale - 4/29"
Posted by brvnkrz on 04-30-04 at 10:19 AM
I agree with you and Augie. Fiona was an embarrasment to the Alts in my opinion. Maybe next season she could sit on the other side of the table and we can see how much she grows. I don't think Kelly will feel shame when she watches. She has that look in her eyes of someone who feels that she is correct and the rest of the world is wrong and there will be no changing her mind.Like Misto's remark up top, they eyes are the window to the soul, I look into Kelly's windows and think that she needs a professional housekeeper to come in and take care of things. I would like to have been there when Augie was dragging her towards the door, but if Kelly had a childish outburst in my presence I seriously would have laughed in her face and told her that she was nuts.
I agree on the final two and agree that Jamie probably did edge out Nicole based on the money factor.


if you don't have anything nice to say, come sit next to me.
CASH Wine gopher


"RE: The finale - 4/29"
Posted by Deonna on 04-30-04 at 10:47 AM
"Maybe next season she could sit on the other side of the table and we can see how much she grows."

THAT is a good idea!

Deonna


"RE: The finale - 4/29"
Posted by Gaelraven on 04-30-04 at 12:34 PM
LAST EDITED ON 04-30-04 AT 12:35 PM (EST)

"I canít help but wonder if people like Fiona or Kelly,
feel ashamed watching the show. Some time has passed between
when it was filmed verses when it was aired. They
both made complete asses of themselves. If they can at
least feel shame, then there is hope for them as a person."


I read an Article in New Witch Magazine on Fiona. All she said was it was a wonderful experiance and would do it again. I guess this was before she saw the final cut.


"The show..."
Posted by Loree on 04-30-04 at 10:54 AM
Kelly needed to be shoved off to the little kids table. She was an embarressment to everyone. But watching herself she probably doesn't get it.

I was happy with the F2. I didn't care which one won. I was just so happy when Eric was booted. He didn't grow at all. In fact it was just Fiona that kept him there that long. I expected her to jump on him everytime they were together. Sickening! And I am sorry Bonnie was booted so soon. I believe Jamie did need the win more than Nicole so it was probably the proper ending.


"What has Nicole done "
Posted by Oscirus on 04-30-04 at 11:03 AM
LAST EDITED ON 05-01-04 AT 01:14 PM (EST)

that everybody dislikes her so much this is my first time watching the show but just based on her in this show I'm not seeing what she has done to make so many people dislike her.
She should have hit eric in the throat after that cup runneth over comment that would have been cool.

Only reason that I can see her losing to Jamie though is her answers to the final quesitons were a bit generic.


edited to actually make sense of what I was trying to say.


"RE: What has Nicole done "
Posted by pheeann on 04-30-04 at 12:02 PM
Personally, I liked her best, only because she didn't fake any addictions, didn't get involved in conspiracies, and took alot of heat from people pretty gracefully. I feel they saw her as little miss perfect, beauty contestant wannabe, all happy all the time, and phony. It just goes to show you how different peoples' perceptions can be. I would have reveled in her win just to see Eric's face.

"RE: What has Nicole done "
Posted by I_AM_HE on 04-30-04 at 01:14 PM
I hated Nichole. Even more than Tim, because at least he added a perverse interest to the show. Nichole was just so fake and shallow. So glad she didn't win (will be even more glad when I actually get to watch it!)


"RE: What has Nicole done "
Posted by nerovh on 04-30-04 at 03:59 PM
I actually liked Nicole more than the other TOP's, except for maybe Jamie. I think Nicole handled the criticism from the other guests with a lot more grace than any of the others would have. I believe that a lot of the dislike for Nicole came from Eric's campaigning against her. He had been trying to get her out since the beginning, and he admitted that he was doing his best to turn the Alts against her. I know that if people treated me the way that the others treated Nicole, I would have had a total meltdown. Nicole may be fake, but she was no more fake than any of the other guests that were left near the end. Even Jamie had her moments, like when she would be nice to Nicole, then run and talk bad about her behind her back. I think Nicole got a bad deal because of Eric and his nasty atitude.

"RE: What has Nicole done "
Posted by Loree on 04-30-04 at 06:29 PM
>I actually liked Nicole more than
>the other TOP's, except for
>maybe Jamie. I think
>Nicole handled the criticism from
>the other guests with a
>lot more grace than any
>of the others would have.
> I believe that a
>lot of the dislike for
>Nicole came from Eric's campaigning
>against her. He had
>been trying to get her
>out since the beginning, and
>he admitted that he was
>doing his best to turn
>the Alts against her.
>I know that if people
>treated me the way that
>the others treated Nicole, I
>would have had a total
>meltdown. Nicole may be
>fake, but she was no
>more fake than any of
>the other guests that were
>left near the end.
>Even Jamie had her moments,
>like when she would be
>nice to Nicole, then run
>and talk bad about her
>behind her back. I
>think Nicole got a bad
>deal because of Eric and
>his nasty atitude.

I agree nerovh. I liked Nicole. And I do think Eric was one of the main reasons she was disliked. Eric had an immediate problem with her and saw her as his greatest competition for the win. So he went all out to spread evil gossip about her and get her booted. He had several of the others convinced they could never beat Nicole. She was good at challenges. But what bothered me more than anything was how he manipulated Fiona to see things his way. How Nicole stayed calm so often is beyond me. She deserved the win just for putting on such a brave face when she was treated so mean.



"Needing verses Deserving"
Posted by Deonna on 04-30-04 at 11:12 AM
I have noticed that a few people have said that it was alright for Jamie to win the money because she needed it more. I have no problem that Jamie won, but I would like to believe that she won because she deserved it more. Just because a person needs money, doesnít mean they deserve it. If two people doing the same job, more money should be given to the person that deserves it more. The one that has worked the hardest, that has done the best job. Not the person that needs it more. Just because the person that needs it more has four kids (or whatever the reason) while the person that deserves it more is single, doesnít mean that the person that needs it more deserves more money. That would not be fair to the person that has worked the hardest.

Deonna

Again, I would like to believe that Jamie won because the Alts thought she deserved it.


"RE: Needing verses Deserving"
Posted by brvnkrz on 04-30-04 at 11:20 AM
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to imply that she didn't deserve it. I agree that she deserved to win. I was just thinking that both deserved it and if both were on equal ground it would be perhaps the money that made the difference. But Jamie most definitely made a change. She did deserve to win because of her performance and her behaviour.
What I can't believe is how the Alts didn't see through Eric. I was so mad that they weren't seeing through his phony attitude. I think they are going to feel silly when they go back and watch and see how they were played by him.


if you don't have anything nice to say, come sit next to me.
CASH Wine gopher


"RE: Needing verses Deserving"
Posted by mistofleas on 04-30-04 at 11:54 AM
There's only one thing that I agreed with that Fiona said. Just before she gave her necklace to Nicole she said that Jamie had come into the house "down here" (and she held her hand low) and is going out "up here" (and she raised her hand high). Then she said that Nicole came in "up here" (and raised her hand high) and your leaving the house "here" (and she raised her hand slightly). What she was saying is that when it comes down to exactly how much growth either one of them did Jamie far surpassed where she was at the beginning and that's the kind of growth the Alts were looking for. Nicole already had a bright shiney light and she did grow, but she didn't have as far to go as Jamie.

So in the end the only reason I would have liked to see the Alts pick Nicole over Jamie? To see how pissed off Eric and Noel would have been to have her win. That's really the only reason. Erics smirk was almost too much for me to take. Jamie deserved the win...definately, but it would have been worth it to me to see Eric have to deal with having lost to Nicole.


--realizes she made not have made a whole lot of sense


"RE: Needing verses Deserving"
Posted by pheeann on 04-30-04 at 11:58 AM
Agreed. I would have been okay with either of them winning, but I think Jamie's response to the question "why would Nicole not deserve to win?" sealed her win. It impressed me immensely, where I had NOT been impressed with her at all until she won her trial. Nicole had impressed me overall, having won trials at least three times that I recall, and not being one who conspired with others. Her winning would have been smugly enjoyed by me, only to see Weasel Eric crash. I'll bet he sidled up to Jamie after the show and said, "wanna hook up?".

"RE: Needing verses Deserving"
Posted by Deonna on 04-30-04 at 12:43 PM
"What I can't believe is how the Alts didn't see through Eric. I was so mad that they weren't seeing through his phony attitude. I think they are going to feel silly when they go back and watch and see how they were played by him."

I am with you sister. Eric is scum and I can't believe that most of them couldn't see that. (I think Art did).

I aggree with Misto, I would have liked to have seen Eric's face if Nichole had won.

Deonna


"RE: Needing verses Deserving"
Posted by Loree on 04-30-04 at 06:33 PM
>What I can't believe is how
>the Alts didn't see through
>Eric. I was so mad
>that they weren't seeing through
>his phony attitude. I think
>they are going to feel
>silly when they go back
>and watch and see how
>they were played by him.
>


I would love to see some interviews with the Alts now and see how they do feel. Some of them were so naive and believed everything they were told.


"Fiona going off on Art"
Posted by nerovh on 04-30-04 at 04:06 PM
Maybe I'm way off base, but I felt like maybe Fiona had a sour grapes kind of thing going on with Art. You know, since her little pet got voted off and Art's favorite got to stay, Fiona was pissed at Art. You notice how she was still trying to spread bad feelings about Nicole because she supposedly saw something bad about her in a divination. I have to say that I think Art is really great after the way he handled that irrational, raving lunatic of a witch.