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"Why the Rupert hype?"
Posted by KeithFan on 11-10-03 at 10:33 AM
I've just seen the preview of the "America's Favorite Survivor" again and it got me wondering- why hype 1 person so much?

I can't remember MB every doing this to such a degree, and I can't imagine them doing it if he is voted out this week or even next- who would want to watch the rest of the season?

Despite the Mrs. Rupert spoiler, I think RB is the bearded man in the F3. I don't think MB would blow off this season to hype the ASS.

The other possibility is that no other cast off stands out. People will watch if they really like or really dislike a player, and I think people would watch just to bash Jon. Sandra is full of 1-liners, and Lil, love her or hate her is an interesting character.

With this much hype, Rupert has to make it to the final episode. IMHO.

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"RE: Why the Rupert hype?"
Posted by I_AM_HE on 11-10-03 at 10:35 AM
LAST EDITED ON 11-10-03 AT 10:36 AM (EST)

i disagree. if rupert is leaving soon, they want to get as many people (esp. rupert fans) watching as possible, and hope they are hooked for the rest of the series, so it would make perfect sense for them to hype it up to get them while rupert is still around (edit: this is not to say rupert won't make final 3, because it is certainly possible, but i'm not betting on it)

"RE: Why the Rupert hype?"
Posted by KeithFan on 11-10-03 at 10:56 AM
You may be right HE, the "milk it for what it's worth" theory may be the correct one (and favored by most here). I do know, however, that if I was a new fan of Survivor, watching because of the Rupert hype, I probably wouldn't pay too much attention to it after he was gone.

"RE: Why the Rupert hype?"
Posted by NTK on 11-10-03 at 10:40 AM
I'm torn because I really want Rupert to stay so I look for "any" clue to help that along.

But, does anyone else remember reading that the bearded man was physically fit? I think I saw that somewhere, but can't remember where.

"Here is the quote"
Posted by anninvt2002 on 11-10-03 at 11:13 AM
Here is the original quote from sucks form Panamavacation. It says nothing about being "fit".


The only reason I hadn't mentioned the F2 descriptions yet were because I wanted to see if this shopping trip was true. I realize that this person could have no idea what he was talking about, or that he outright lied to me. I just didn't want to tell all that I knew, and then be wrong and make a fool of myself here. I know how this board works. But fine, I'll tell you. I only heard that the F2 were women. One older, one younger. I have no idea what "older" and "younger" are. We all know that some women tend to look older after spending 30+ days out there. I also heard that the last one kicked off before the F2 was a man with a beard. Again, yes, I know there are not enough details here to convince most people on this board. But it's all I know.

"RE: Here is the quote"
Posted by NTK on 11-10-03 at 11:32 PM
Thanks I did finally find what I had read and it was about the "ghosts" returning to the game. Doh.
"RE: Why the Rupert hype?"
Posted by mistofleas on 11-10-03 at 11:22 AM
There are several reasons to hype Rupert.

1) He's the first Survivor we've had in a long time that while gruff and at odds with your standard "pretty person" castaways of past episodes, he's your prototypical pirate;

2) He's enjoying his island paradise. He's there for the adventure BUT he's also playing the game. He's friendly with everyone, he knows how to draw people to him while still keeping control of his game and manipulate others into following him; and

C) Even if he's going before the F4 or F3 MB will want to maintain an interest in Rupert because he's going to be on ASS. There are enough people rooting for Rupert to win that if/when he goes they'll remember him for a long time and be very excited when they see he's given another chance on ASS.

MB has his dream survivor in Rupert. He's gonna milk it for all it's worth.



--needs more coffee and a nap

"RE: Why the Rupert hype?"
Posted by jkokoj on 11-10-03 at 11:38 AM
I don't think Rupert is going any where. I think he is our F3 male with the beard. I think Rupert is in plain site. Almost every week I find that everyone is looking for a way to boot Rupert but keep failing.

I think Jon and Burton will try to overthrow Rupert but it will not happen. I cannot recall when we have had a fan favorite win survivor. MB is hyping this one up all the way for rating and to get everyone excited for Allstars, the "jump the shark" show for surivior.

"RE: Why the Rupert hype?"
Posted by 1unatic on 11-10-03 at 01:00 PM
There is also the fact that rupert is the only one from S7 on all- stars. You'd think that if he didn't finish in the final 3 they would also put on someone who did.
"RE: Why the Rupert hype?"
Posted by coolflowerpowerman on 11-10-03 at 10:42 PM
The fact he's on all-stars is not necessarily an indicator that Rupert reaches the F4...

The cast of all-stars looks to be a compilation of the more "interesting" characters from Survivors past and present.

Survivor Thailand's only representative, Shii Ann, came in 10th place.

If they simply chose someone who made the final four, Helen or Granny Jan would be on All-Stars instead.


So... Rupert is quite possibly an early or mid-jury boot.

"RE: Why the Rupert hype?"
Posted by badger on 11-10-03 at 01:08 PM
rupert has had remarkable popularity, since the first pictures were released for this season. i think MB is latching on to an obvious "good thing" in order to gain as many viewers as possible.

Rupert's popularity, not his success in S7, are the reasons for his being cast in ASS, methinks. i don't believe the plans were originally to even have anyone from S7.

MB is hoping all this rupert-hype will spill over into next season. rupert is leaving next week (yeah, i'll come right out and say it), and fans will be disappointed. but what better way to lure people into watching him AGAIN in the ASS?!

It is very important to remember that ASS is going up against the Friends Finale. i think MB and CBS want to do everything in their power to win this timeslot, and rupert is the key.

"RE: Why the Rupert hype?"
Posted by Brownroach on 11-10-03 at 01:21 PM
Rupert's popularity, not his success in S7, are the reasons for his being cast in ASS, methinks. i don't believe the plans were originally to even have anyone from S7.

Thank you, badger. I completely concur with this.


"RE: Why the Rupert hype?"
Posted by true on 11-10-03 at 01:50 PM
This weeks hype is very similar to the hype given to Rob M., the week prior to his booting in S4. Remember all those Godfather-type promos? MB is gonna milk Rupert and his popularity for all it's worth, before he goes next week.
"RE: Why the Rupert hype?"
Posted by ElroyJetson on 11-10-03 at 03:11 PM
This weeks hype is very similar to the hype given to Rob M., the week prior to his booting in S4. Remember all those Godfather-type promos? MB is gonna milk Rupert and his popularity for all it's worth, before he goes next week.

You beat me to the punch True!

"RE: Why the Rupert hype?"
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 11-10-03 at 03:35 PM
Bingo. We got the Godfather promos for the episode a week before the Robfather got booted -- likewise, I think we're getting the same treatment for Rupert. Hype him up for this week and then he goes next week.

After Ryno (presumably) goes this week, it becomes a 5-3 margin for the Drakes in terms of old tribal lines, and it makes sense to remove the strongest threat still in the game -- either Burton or Rupert. Looks like it's Burton that likely gets II since I can't see the others supporting a ghost over a guy like Rupert so soon after the ghosts got back into the game.


Heidi: My biggest assets to the tribe are my athletic skills and my intelligence. I've lost one of them.
Jiffy: Which one?

"RE: Why the Rupert hype?"
Posted by dabo on 11-11-03 at 09:10 AM
If Rupert gets booted before the F4 then he won't be available for television appearances, chats and such. Thanksgiving week would be perfect placement for his being booted then, the holiday interferance would most likely prevent the bootie from doing the rounds anyway. If he doesn't go that week then I expect he will make F4.

"If all machines were to be annihilated at one moment, so that not a knife nor lever nor rag of clothing nor anything whatsoever were left to man but his bare body alone that he was born with, and if all knowledge of mechanical laws were taken from him so that he could make no more machines, and all machine-made food destroyed so that the race of man should be left as it were naked upon a desert island, we should become extinct in six weeks." (Samuel Butler, "Erewhon")

"RE: Why the Rupert hype?"
Posted by IslandFever on 11-10-03 at 10:15 PM
I also believe that Rupert is the bearded man in the F3. I think Mr. 411 is setting us up for a fall. Rhino probably will go next but Rupert is MB's ace in the hole this season. From the beginning from Snewser's chirp that Rupert's tribe had no trouble voting him out, and then to the Mrs. Rupert family visit rumor and the Mr.411, it all is carefully fabricated to protect the fact that Rupert goes far and boosts ratings besides.
"RE: Why the Rupert hype?"
Posted by 1unatic on 11-11-03 at 04:52 PM
I agree with this. Plus there's a conversation on sucks about the final 3 spoiler possibly not being true.
"RE: Why the Rupert hype?"
Posted by pdragonfly on 11-10-03 at 10:45 PM
Sorry, I don't agree.

If your reasoning held firm, then Rob would have made it in Surivor Amazon and not Jen.

Cathy would have made it in Survivor Thailand instead of Vecepia.

Rupert puts on a GREAT show. He's made the Pirate adventure. MB would be foolish not to use him. Very few people have put on a good show. Well Osten was great to "tee hee" at, and Jon makes you want to turn the channel.

Of course there's always Ryan O. We could tune in each week to see if he finally caught a fish.

Nah, it would be just another Surivor Africa. A snooze fest.

"Wrong Again"
Posted by IslandFever on 11-12-03 at 06:49 PM
Well I'm wrong again. Both Snews and TDT have dropped Rupert down on their lists of the survivables. This spells death to poor Rupert. Looks like Blackbeard may be the 2nd member of the jury. And maybe SDT wins the whole thing?
"RE: Wrong Again"
Posted by KeithFan on 11-12-03 at 06:56 PM
I have since seen the light also... I'm thinking STD (oops) SDT too.