1. Troy
2. Amy
3. Nick

Bill seemed undecisive and willing to take a beating last night.

Kwame got a free ride from Troy... again. It's called payback.

Katrina is going to partially fill the huge void left by Omarosa or Tammy.

I am picking Nick, Amy and Troy. And it will be so fun to watch Nick and Amy compete with each other.

Troy, Amy and Bill

Amy, Troy, and Bill

I'm going to go with the undefeated Amy as the winner.

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Amy, Nick and Troy. No question about it, Amy
wiped the floor with EVERYBODY last night. She
didn't just succeed within the skewed
parameters of the competition, she scored big
time by anybody's standards. It was obvious that
even old George was impressed with her, as was
Trump. I mean, not only did she come up with the
advertising idea, she then executed the plan
brilliantly by simply calling up and reaching
out to the contacts she's made just during these
past few weeks. That was awesome. And even
though they didn't show it, you know that in
addition to the airplane company that she must
have called up Donny Deutch for help with the
actual ad posters. It was a genuine "Trump-like"
performance and they all know it. Ol' Troy
knew it the minute he saw that pedicab with
the ads on it. At this point, I think that
Donald and his assistants are comparing
everybody else to Amy - which is bad news for
the other contestants. Katrina is hip to it,
you can count on that. Amy is everything that
Katrina would like to be - but isn't.

I see it a little differently. I think it will be Kwame, Bill and Amy. I don't think Kwame can win so the winner will be either Bill or Amy.

Amy
Nick
Troy (I'm gonna hedge and say Troy maybe replaced by Bill)

Amy, Troy, and Bill.

Kwame, Bill, and Katrina. I am always wrong at these things so these three will definitely not be there.

1. Troy- he's great
2. Amy
3. Nick

My final three hasn't changed since Feb. 8th
http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/DCForumID62/67.shtml
Amy
Troy
Bill

1) Amy
2) Nick
3) Troy

They are all playing the game well, and Trump seems to like them so they are allowed to screw up once (Troy - you used yor screw up card on the rickshaw episode).

LAST EDITED ON 03-13-04 AT 10:07 AM (EST)

I'll guess...

Bill-- as the winner (editing makes us think it is going to be Amy so that is why I pick Bill)

Amy --obvious- even if she screws up royally next time she will stay in

Kwame- I'd like to put Troy here because he seems to always remedy a bad situation and his enthusiasm is great. I loved the way we would calm down Sam. BUT Kwame is flying so far under the radar that I think he could even (gasp) win the thing. Kind of in Tina from survivor fashion. HE HAS DONE NOTHING

Nick is too full of himself and doesn't listen to others and he is a baby.

Katrina- I really just don't pay too much attention to her

I think that the final three will be (in no particular order):

* Amy
* Troy
* Nick

But it is a pretty wishy washy situation. Not too sure but hopefully I'm right...Currently though, I don't see Katrina making it too far, Kwame, not sure about him either, and Bill, well same thing, kinda unsure.
I am going by what we have seen in terms of performance from the contestants and I think that Amy, Nick and Troy have shown the most potential thus far.

Bill
Amy
Troy

I don't think anyone will be surprised when Katrina is fired. Nick's arrogance is bothersome. I am very indifferent regarding Kwame, he is ok but has been kind of boring.

>Bill
>Amy
>Troy
>
>I don't think anyone will be
>surprised when Katrina is fired.
> Nick's arrogance is bothersome.
> I am very indifferent
>regarding Kwame, he is ok
>but has been kind of
>boring.

I also think it will come down to these three.

Possible spoiler?
I heard a brief interview on our local radio station here in NY with The Donald. The DJ asked The Donald, "So the winner is gonna run your company?" The Donald answered, "He's gonna get to run part of one of my companies." Then he said again, "He (there was a long pause here) or she, is gonna get to run one of my companies." I wonder if the last two are both men or if it's Amy and one of the guys and he's decided that it will be the guy. Or, maybe, it was just a slip of the tongue. Who knows. We'll know in a month.

AMY
TROY
NICK

1.Nick
2.Amy
3.Troy

Troy in a narrow margin over Bill.

No picks for Katrina?

I think that everyone is guessing who the best 3 candidates are. Based on editing:

Katrina (Villain no one wants to win)
Troy (Gritty underdog who falls short)
Bill (The solid, consistent, winner)

I guess not many people see Katrina in the final three. Kinda surprising though I can see why we would think so.

Kwame, Troy, Bill
Amy gets fired her first time in the boardroom
Katrina gets fired next
Nick Goes down next

Just because Kwame is boring tv doesn't mean he hasn't done anything

Bring back the spice rack
Congragulations to the apprentice Mr Kwame Jackson

Amy, Bill, and Troy.

Amy, Nick and Troy

At this point, I am leaning toward the final three being Amy, Bill, and Troy, with Nick still having an outside shot of bumping off either Troy or Bill.

The only reason that I still give Nick a fighting chance was that I got the impression that DT seemed to like something about him when they had their one-on-one reward visit.

LAST EDITED ON 03-17-04 AT 02:51 AM (EST)

Amy, Troy, Nick

In reading this thread, it finally hit me what Nick has going for him - smugness. Amy is solid, comes up with good sales type ideas, and has yet to lose. Troy is a risk taker, a consensus builder, and is consistently mentioned as a leader by the others.

So what does Nick bring?

Confidence? He thinks he is a lot better salesperson than he is.

Drive? Yes, when he is calling the shots, but if not he can check out when things don't go as he'd like.

Integrity? He's mr integrity when he can show it off, I'm curious as to how much he lives it when the cameras aren't on him.

Leadership? Well, as PM his best decisions have been in getting out of the way of his team. Something to be said for that if you have ever worked for a micromanager, still he hasn't shown us the winning idea/strategy.

So what has he got - smugness.
The Donald makes the pick.
The Donald is not humble.
Everyone likes somebody like them.
Who left is most like the Donald?

Nick makes F3 on smugness.

I am split between finding the ad hilarious, and resenting Sam for gaining notarity for being a nutcase.

I'm going with Troy, Nick and Amy.

I thought this was a fun question, and I've been enjoying reading all the different opinions being posted here. Just for fun, I decided to tally up the votes posted so far to see how we as a group have ranked the candidates. Here goes:

Votes tallied through post #33:

Troy - 31
Amy - 29
Bill - 17
Nick - 16
Kwame - 6
Katrina - 2

Well... So far it looks like we like Troy and Amy for sure, with Bill & Nick neck and neck to be the third candidate.

We'll see if anything changes after Episode 12, maybe even after teh recrap tonight.

F3 - Nick, Amy, Troy

Katrina- She has been so close to taking that down elevator, her nightmare finally comes true next week.

Kawame-He has been flying under the radar way too long, he will be picked up and fired upon, right after Katrina.

Bill-Just not enough sparkle to work for The Donald.

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EVERYONE REMEMBER THE WINNER IS NOT KNOW IT IT LIVE AS SAID ON THE COMMERCIALS BUT THIS IS WHATY I THINK
6th Kwame- His turn as PM and looses and goes out
5th Nick- I am going on a limb and saying it comes down to Nick and Katrina and Nicks luck runs out when Katrina shows she is better making it a 2 on 2 girls and guys final 4
4th Troy- Did not even go to high school and he just should not get it he is not as good as the other 3
3rd- Katrina- Luck runs out has no chance aganst AMy and Bill
2nd Bill- Amy is better
Winner Amy- I think this because Donald lost lots of money when the stock market crashed a while back and Amy also lost a lot of money she said whent he stock market went down after 9/11 she said it in ep1 connection and i think she wins

bris, you're too judgemental. a lot of people did not make it in high school but they're street smart and become very successful. Troy did go to high school but he had to leave to take care of his ill mom and sis.

Personally, I'm still holding out for old Sam to win. I mean, anybody that looks at the Donald that way deserves to win SOMETHING. Really.

lol I actually like Sam! I mean he will not make a good leader but what fun would it be without him? He's Johnny Fairplay of the apprentice!

I have to agree. While certain fields require advanced education (such as MDs or dentists), I'm not convinced that lack of college hinders someone from making it in business. Having been to college myself, sometimes college will limit creativity in thinking. Also, some of the greatest entrepeneurs never had advanced degrees. Literacy is vital, don't get me wrong, but generally someone with a good education up through high school should have that. Generally, making it in business (unless you're trying to do in high-tech or biomedical or something like that) requires less technical college knowledge, and more traits like risk taking, implementing the right idea, etc.

One exception might be an MBA from a top school like Stanford or Wharton, but I see the main value of those programs as being connections to key people (especially venture capitalists and skilled executives at certain companies) more than the actual coursework.

Yes, but all those people are self-starters. The ones that make it in business are the ones who have formed their own companies. You don't get hired to be the CEO of a company if you don't have a college degree. In most cases, promising individuals who don't have a college degree will be promoted, but on the condition that they go to school. So that if they will be academically qualified for the job that they are being groomed to fill.

I agree that in terms of the skills required, you can probably get away with it in the Business World, but in the real world, those people won't give you a chance and promote you--because they all have college degrees themselves. Being an Ivory League graduate himself, we'll have to see what Trump thinks.

A very succinct and articulate summation Bris.

LAST EDITED ON 03-20-04 AT 07:03 PM (EST)

<<<Donald lost lots of money when the stock market crashed a while back>>>

how do you figure that? Trump's company is privately held (by TRUMP). I don't believe TRUMP had much if anyting invested in the stock market.

edited to add: the stock market, particularly the nasdaq was way down prior to 9/11. i don't beleive Amy many any mention of 9/11.

The final 3 will be
Amy
Troy
Kwame

Kwame will win it all in the end.

"Kwame will win it all in the end. "

That creates a "Huh" response from me, but I have to admit that you may have a valid point. Kwame (and perhaps Amy) seem to have one thing in common, neither has aliented themselves to the other team members. During the recap episode, they showed a scene with Kwame and Omarosa taking a relaxing trip through Central Park with Kwame as tour guide. Given that Omarosa and Ereka don't care for each other (probably a slight understatement), but both seem to share a fondness for Kwame, seems to validate his ability to get along well with most of the Apprentice wannabees.

It could be smart editing to show all of Amy's strengths, and hardly show Kwame, so that most (including myself) would be surprised if he does become the Apprentice.

I think Kwame is a very good surprise candidate, too. Donald respects him. And that counts for a LOT. He's been PM twice, failed miserably twice, yet was treated respectfully by Donald each time. No critizisms, nothing.

Yes everyone i am sorry i meant Troy never went to college. And thats not good he does not compare to Katrina the number 3 real-estate agent in the US and Amy who had a ton of money in stocks and lost it. Troy is a ##### for not bringing Kwame into the board room Heidi did the best on the last task. I think Donald is a ##### for not fireing Troy for not bringing Kwame into teh board room. He fired Ereka fro not bringing Katrina why not do the same to Tory. So i am sticking to it
Katrina
Bill
Amy
Final 3

Katrina isn't the #3 real estate agent in the country. She was just nervous when she said that, she meant to say she was in the top 3% of realtors in the countryn (see NBCs website). Which actually means that *one year* she managed to get enough sales to rank her in the top three percent, by dollar volume, of real estate agents, hence she probably made enough money that year to support herself, which is better than roughly 75% of agents who only work part time but a long way from extraodinary.

Ladro: yes right info. Being a good real estate agent does not mean you can be a good president of one of the largest companies. (That is in fact is far from reality). I do not respect the way Katrina carried herself and she is so immature. Never been duped? Sweetie, everyone has been duped! And what's up with writing what you want in the paper and exchange? I mean I never did that even when I was in the third grade.

Like I mentioned in different post, TV didn't show a lot of Kwame and this is why I believe he could have gone further than most of us think. He has a GREAT personality and even DT sees that. He gets along with both ladies and men. Having people like you is important for leadership cause you can get people to do whatever you want when they have respect for you.

>Being a
>good real estate agent does
>not mean you can be
>a good president of one
>of the largest companies.

True. Does being a copier salesman mean you can be a good president of one of the largest companies?

Still being in the top 3 percent ever is real good and of what i know it is much much more than Troy has ever done at least she wasnt a ##### about what apartment to choose writing down "I want what you want" is very immature and i would not that person running a busniess. At least Hedid is 1/1 PM wins and Troy is 1/3 so Heidi is much better and Heidi did it with a mom in the hospital

By the way if Troy did bring Kwame into the boardroom, DT would have had a problem with that. Heidi openly attacked Troy and said it was all his idea (if you didn't like it why didn't you come up with something better?) I believe Troy chose Heidi because he knew that she would have been fired anyway. Remember what we see is only a fraction of the show...Carolyn might have been attacked Heidi, rolling her eyes etc. even before the final decision

I think that it will be Troy, Bill and Kwamee. I was going to go with Amy but then there was the fact that she and another group of women from the show are posing in Maxim or FHM, scantily clad for free. I think that if she was one of the final three she would not jeopordize her chances by doing this . The winner is going to be a leader over a group of people that would not be too pleased working for someone that did this type of thing.

Of the three I think Bill and Kwamee have the best boardroom and manager demeanor for working with New York type people. I like Troy the best but his demeanor is too rural to work for DT.

Well we'll see what happens.

This discussion keeps getting more interesting every time...

Timb, I totally agree with you. I'm rooting for Troy from day 1 but now I start to think he might be better off not getting this job as he already has a lot going on in Idaho (top-notched school for his sis, hospital for mom and happy marriage). Single people like Amy, Bill or Kwame, or even Nick would be better at this job as they don't have much commitment in life yet.

At this point I'm inclined to say Amy and Kwame in final three, and one other person I haven't figured it out yet.

I have to say I have noticed a late surge in support for Kwame around this and the other threads. I like Kwame, I just don't see it. If this were survivor then absolutely he is a contender, as UTR is a proven strategy there. But I just can't see that as workable in this situation. The eventual winner has to take over and run a Trump company with the spotlight squarely upon them. Trump and MB may not know who won yet, but they know the final two/three (whatever they stopped at for the final live show). I can't imagine a potential finalist for such a publicly prominent position being given such a low key edit as Kwame has to this point received. I suppose he could really emerge from here on out, but I think it is a little late. I like him, but I don't think a survivor-esque UTR backing into the win is what Donald wants his apprentice portrayed as.

thetick, there's a lot of Kwame you haven't seen on TV and this could be why people think he might have a chance. Just because we haven't seen him hard at work doesn't mean that he isn't.

LAST EDITED ON 03-24-04 AT 00:36 AM (EST)

I know there must be more to him. I am very favorably impressed with him already especially in contrast to the primadonnas and dare i say it, DAW's that he is in competition with. But my point remains, would he really be edited so low key if he were a finalist? I think this is an acceptable edit for a survivor finalist where winning is based on voting of other contestants. But in this situation where winning is totally determined on the Donald's judgement, I believe that a finalist would already have been edited to show lots of risk taking, strong leadership, initiative, and creativity. And as they are showing a lot less of that from Kwame than some of the others, I can't see him as a finalist. No knock on Kwame, I'd MUCH rather spend time with him than any of the others, but IMHO he is not receiving a finalists edit.

My guess: Amy, Kwame, Bill

(although based off of his past fire-ances, Troy and Nick could easily be here, too... the Donald has 0 respect for Katrina, so I think she's going down sooner than later)

thetick, lol I totally agree with you. guess we have to see if he will be one of the 3 finalists eh? personally I like Kwame's personality a lot, so I'd love to see him in the final.

LAST EDITED ON 03-24-04 AT 11:52 AM (EST)

I am not against Kwame as The Apprentice, but I have just felt all along that if the Ivy Leagure MBA wins it would make the whole competition a little bit, well, anticlimatic.

Take a mixed lot of competitors, various levels of education, proven successes in various fields, with various working and interacting styles, from various parts of country, and the winner is, ahem, the New England Ivy League MBA with one of the less distintive personalites on the show - (at least according to the editing...) Well!

That's just not a surprising and suspenseful ending. Sorry, Kwame, nothing personal, but you can go be a CEO just about anyplace that you want to. For some of these other candidates, this is their one and only chance for a shot at a job like this.

How can the producers hope to create an Apprentice II and draw in exciting and colourful characters if the winner is a formula predictable guy? Where is the tension, the squabbling, the romance, the pouting, the dumb ideas, etc. if there is nothing but a bunch of trained, mature, professional, by the book administrators?

PS Omarosa, if you're reading this, "colourful characters" has nothing to do with race.

lol well said pepito. this could be the reason why so many people are Troy's fans. He IS an American dream. He has proven that you don't need to go to Ivy League to become successful. After all, Ivy League schoos require a lot of money anyway so that leaves no room for less wealthy people. To get into Harvard, one of the most significan factors (although not openly recognized) is whether your parents are alumni or not. If they are, even better chance to get into. When the whole family graduates from same school, more likely to give donation in the future. Harvard and Cornell are big for that.

Bill, Amy, Nick

Here is the updated tally:

Troy-34
Amy-36
Bill-22
Nick-18
Kwame-13
Katrina-4

Kwame, Bill, Troy.

Kwame and Bill because of the normal UTR editing process. Reality shows never go for the predictable ending. We know less about those two and their true capabilities than about anyone else. Troy because he is the sympathetic underdog who most people are routing for and he's so much fun to watch.

Too bad about Amy. It's hard to tell what she does to disqualify herself in the next episode or two, but no way would she be posing for magazines at this point if she was still a serious contender.

Katrina's been on borrowed time for weeks. She should have been gone after the apartment renovation episode where she showed what a complete loser she was in every way - even tho real estate is her strong suite. If Tammy had not said those 3 little words, She would have stayed another week or two and Katrina would have been out of there then. I'm amazed when she refers to her looks as if she is something special in that department. She looks just average, or maybe even below to me. I don't get that she made it this far - but as someone said earlier....with as many resumes as they report having gone through to choose contestants - and these were the best they could find? WTF!

Pamselfish, I totally agree with you. Tammy blew it because of her mouth or else she would have stayed longer (not meaning that she's gonna win lol)
Women on the show are just typical faces, the type that suits FHM mag. I don't see real beauties in the show (maybe Carolyn lol)