Over the years I have noticed that different girls age at very different rates. Often you can tell who will fade fast, and who will not.

With lots of workouts, support clothing, reduced tanning and other options the sags and slumps with age can be reduced - but most people follow the same patterns.

Broad faces tend to sag very early (30s - 40s). Seen it in more than one of my friends, both male and female.

Blonds are harshly treated by tanning too often. I keep seeing blonds in their 30-40s whose skin looks like leather. Why they do it I don't know.

Very young women who have already produced big breasts/hips tend to mostly have fat in those areas, again they sag earlier than women who develop a little later building muscles or connective tissue at the same time.

Women who use lots of make-up when they are young get coarse skin earlier and tend to need to keep using lots of make-up to keep their appearance up. Note: lots of make-up is a turnoff for me.

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I don't know if you agree with the above, but looking at CeeCee I see a girl (who is not that pretty by my standards) who is going to problems with her face in the next few years and has nothing else to fall back on. The second half of her life will probably be miserable.

The black girl who left early also will tend to start sagging if she does not wear support bras according to my ex-girlfriend, and she can barely read.

What are these girls future really going to be like?

• RE: Beauty fades - who will be worse off.,LisaPles, 03:03 PM, 02-15-07
  • RE: Beauty fades - who will be worse off.,Earl Colby Pottinger, 04:22 PM, 02-15-07
    • RE: Beauty fades - who will be worse off.,JoeGazillionaire, 08:12 PM, 02-15-07
      • RE: Beauty fades - who will be worse off.,Earl Colby Pottinger, 04:39 PM, 02-16-07
  • RE: Beauty fades - who will be worse off.,kryp, 04:08 PM, 02-16-07
    • RE: Beauty fades - who will be worse off.,amea_gari, 05:23 PM, 02-16-07
      • RE: Beauty fades - who will be worse off.,JoeGazillionaire, 06:05 PM, 02-16-07
        • RE: Beauty fades - who will be worse off.,Earl Colby Pottinger, 00:32 AM, 02-17-07
          • RE: Beauty fades - who will be worse off.,JoeGazillionaire, 01:29 AM, 02-17-07
      • RE: Beauty fades - who will be worse off.,kryp, 10:23 PM, 02-16-07

I agree with you about the tanning. The tanning salon tans just make skin look damaged.
I feel bad for young women with breast implants because I don't think they realize that most women need to have them re-done several times over their lifetime. Imagine being in your late thirties (still a young woman) and having your third or fourth breast surgery? It's sad that some women mame themselves for life because of what they thought was "ideal" when they were twenty years old. Most of them probably had perfectly good breasts to begin with but they can never go back.
Women should embrace their natural beauty and be comfortable with aging gracefully.

LAST EDITED ON 02-15-07 AT 04:32 PM (EST)

The problem I see with people like CeeCee is that she gets away with a lot because of her looks. She even realizes this, however she seems to have no depth of mind for when she ages and guys will stop overlooking her faults because of her looks.

Have you ever see a not-so-good-looking older woman making passes at men half her age? A person who just refuses to realize they had gotten older (not that 40-50 is old, just older). Worse, when she tries to talk to older men, she finds she can't hold the interest of a older person who want someone who has a working brain to talk to.

Both my ex-girlfriend and present girlfriend are in their very early fifties, both are pleasant to look at - but neither is a beauty queen. Yet I can spend hours - heck had conversations that took days to finish (4-6 hours a day at a time) because even when I don't agree with they it is interesting to hear what they have to say from their point of view.

Can you imagine having a real conversation with CeeCee about something that was not directly related to herself? Do you think that after attempting such a conversation you will come away from it knowing you have learnt something new? I have my doubts.

Most of the girls did more than open up (slowly I admit) and learnt somethings from the geeks, they also taught the geeks useful social skills or at-least gave them a chance to practice what they already knew without worrying about large scale rejection.

CeeCee - just about nothing was learnt or taught.

I must be in some Twilight Zone episode where everyone seees something one way and I another....because I don't think Cece has looks to begin with...so I don't know how she is getting away with that behavior to begin with.
Her forehead is always greasy. Her personality has already manifest itself on her looks---She has that condescending scowl on her face permanently etched and you can already see sun damage. So, obivously my answer is CeCe.
I disagree on Tori...I think she's a natural beauty. Her skin type will hold better. The rule of thumb is red heads and certain blonds that have fair complexion....but there are plenty of blondes that look great after 40....so it depends on the skin complexion and also how you take care of your skin--staying otu of the sun keeping hyrdrated and not smoking, not getting stressed out, sleeping...etc.

LAST EDITED ON 02-16-07 AT 04:41 PM (EST)

First, CeeCee is at the physical borderline between beauty and non-beauty queen; thus you are right in that it is her personality that makes the difference. With a pleasant personality she should have a winning smile, what we saw was her real inner bad side. I am sure when she is partying and having fun that she looks a lot better, that is how she is getting away with it at present. As a party girl she is finding lots of silly boys.

But in a few years her looks will go, and as we have already seen she does not have what it to make up for the difference.

I understand what you mean, it is just that I have tried to view what CeeCee looks like in her better moments - they won't last.

As for Tori, I am not talking about skin sagging from age - I am black too, over 50 years old and my skin is still smooth.

No, what I am talking about are those things she keeps trying to show off every time she makes a mistake. Have you not noticed how she always puts her hands behind her head every time she messes up? Guess what she is trying to distract men with? Problem, large breasts are a lot of stress on the connective tissue inside and without a lot of external support (bras) they will start to sag fast after the bloom of youth passes.

To a lesser degree the same applies to the hips and buttocks.

Again exercise can help, but Tori is not one who strikes me as a hard worker to keep in shape.

I don't see how CiCi and Megan can remotely be considered beauties. Can they look hot? Certainly, but they looked more like porn stars to me.

The only one I thought was truly a beauty was Andrea but her personality totally turned me off.

Oh, she's the only one? Come on! I thought Nadia was pretty. Her personality was certainly beautiful, whether she was ditzy or not, but I really think she was pretty on the outside as well.
The black girl (forgive me, I could barely remember Nadia's name and she was there a lot longer :/) was also very pretty, IMO. But was she ever on screen without starting to cry? Yeesh.
And Eryn could have been, if she dolled herself -down-.

I agree. Nadia is pretty...in fact, she was the first one I noticed because she has such a warm easy smile. And, I think Andrea is flat out hot...probably the type that guys go for...she kind of redeemed herself at the end. And, some of you mgiht disagree with me, but Tori is kind of sexy...the more you look at her and her figure is probably one of the main reasons. I don't know about the sagging, I mean everyone expects that with age....but bad skin is something that's more important. I don't want to comment on the remaning beauties because they seem nice and I'd rather say disparaging things on the "mean" "beauties".

I don't even think it was the personality. I remember when they first showed the photos of the beauties I was real disappointed. I never thought CeCe and Megan were good looking at all....and finally seeing their personalities made it worse. Whoever the guys that are letting CcCe thinkt that way (I'm presuming its types like Matt that lets people put makeup on him and have him humiliated in the town square for all to laugh at)....must be real low rent.
by the way, is "earl colby pottinger" a literary character from some book...just curious.

LAST EDITED ON 02-17-07 AT 00:34 AM (EST)

No, that is my real-life name. I like to stand behind what I write, if I am wrong I will admit it.

If you do a Google search on my name the website at Idirect is my old one, I have not properly set up my site on Sympatico but you can look at what is at http://www3.sympatico.ca/earlcolby.pottinger/ if you like.

The other reason I use my full name is that my father's name is Earl Colbert Pottinger, and since we lived at the same address banks, credit companies, etc kept mixing us up.

I have always insisted after the first mix-up that if the paper work does not have my *FULL* name then it is not me. All my IDs, bank cards, etc have the full name only and I raise holy-hell on any institution that tries to shorten it.

I can be wrong in what I write, but it will be what I honestly believe.

ok, cool. I just thought it was some name of a literary character in an 18th century novel or the full title of the grand duke or noble in England.

LAST EDITED ON 02-16-07 AT 10:24 PM (EST)

I didn't mean that Andrea was the only one, just that she was the prettiest of the lot. I agree about Nadia. Her smile was hot and her personality was very attractive.