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"S19 Gufu Award: Week 9"
Posted by dabo on 11-13-09 at 01:26 AM
THE RULES; The Gufu Award was established for pointing out the dangdumbest game moves in Survivor. Each week you have a designated number of votes you may award for Contestant Gufus! Should you notice any gufus of dangdumbness for noncontestant stuff, these are Production Gufus, a separate category with its very own designated number of votes you may award. Should you wish to exceed your designated votes, these are Honorary Gufus.
So, this week you have three Contestant Gufus and Two Production gufus.
Production #1: Well, darn, Russell is going to find the HII every week and play it. Maybe now they'll realize HII isn't such a good idea and do S20 without it. They probably won't but we can hope.
Contestant #1: Galu, for not going with an alternate target. They knew there was an HII around somewhere, if you can't find it then flush it out.
Table of contents
- RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9,Dakota, 09:43 AM, 11-13-09
- RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9,dabo, 10:16 AM, 11-13-09
- RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9,Karchita, 11:59 AM, 11-13-09
- RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9,Karchita, 05:53 PM, 11-13-09
- RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9,maroonclowns mom, 01:22 PM, 11-14-09
- RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9,nailbone, 04:37 PM, 11-16-09
- RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9,Prof_ Wagstaff, 03:08 PM, 11-17-09
- RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9,Risti2, 10:57 AM, 11-13-09
- RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9,jbug, 11:09 AM, 11-13-09
- RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9,Dakota, 02:40 PM, 11-13-09
- RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9,Risti2, 06:47 PM, 11-14-09
- RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9,vince3, 03:19 PM, 11-13-09
- RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9,dabo, 09:09 PM, 11-16-09
- RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9,Tublecane, 05:52 AM, 11-21-09
- RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9,jbug, 11:08 AM, 11-13-09
- RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9,Max Headroom, 11:10 AM, 11-13-09
- RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9,jbug, 11:45 AM, 11-13-09
- RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9,Tublecane, 05:54 AM, 11-21-09
- RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9,dabo, 11:52 AM, 11-13-09
- RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9,Belle Book, 06:04 PM, 11-13-09
- RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9,SherpaDave, 09:58 PM, 11-13-09
- RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9,Belle Book, 12:55 PM, 11-14-09
- RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9,Chez, 01:22 PM, 11-14-09
- RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9,Belle Book, 03:18 PM, 11-14-09
- RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9,Karchita, 04:09 PM, 11-14-09
- RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9,nailbone, 04:52 PM, 11-16-09
- RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9,Karchita, 11:59 PM, 11-17-09
- RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9,michel, 05:16 PM, 11-14-09
- RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9,Molaholic, 08:12 PM, 11-14-09
- RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9,anotherkim, 04:30 PM, 11-15-09
- RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9,dabo, 09:13 PM, 11-16-09
- RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9,jbug, 12:00 PM, 11-17-09
- RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9,dabo, 12:49 PM, 11-17-09
Messages in this discussion
"RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9"
Posted by Dakota on 11-13-09 at 09:43 AM
LAST EDITED ON 11-13-09 AT 09:44 AM (EST)1. Pride cometh before the fall. Again. Tell the Galus that it's one of the deadly sins for a reason.
2. Shambo for not going out of her way to make her tribe think she's with them strategically, even if she's not their BFF. Although I think she voted with them (have to watch the replay to be sure) which would be smart, she needs to make them believe she hasn't flipped.
3. Foofoos for still not being able to win a challenge.
Production: For not mixing up the old tribes for RC.
I have a confession to make, Bashers. I no longer hate RussHell. I did at first. He's probably the first evil one that doesn't grate on me. *looks over at Fanatics* Nah. I'm not ready to flip yet.
A Tribe Creation - Springtime 2008
"RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9"
Posted by dabo on 11-13-09 at 10:16 AM
There were seven votes for Russell, seven Galu including Shambo, so they didn't leave her out of the loop this time. That could maybe be a Gufu since she could tell Russell he absolutely should play the HII, but smart of her to go ahead and vote along tribal lines.
"RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9"
Posted by Karchita on 11-13-09 at 11:59 AM
I suspect that she was told to do that by Russell.
"RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9"
Posted by Karchita on 11-13-09 at 05:53 PM
I have a confession to make, Bashers. I no longer hate RussHell. I did at first. He's probably the first evil one that doesn't grate on me. *looks over at Fanatics* Nah. I'm not ready to flip yet. I have the same confession to make. And the same limitation on it, too. I really didn't like this guy in the beginning, but he has earned my respect.
"RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9"
Posted by maroonclowns mom on 11-14-09 at 01:22 PM
Me too!
"RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9"
Posted by nailbone on 11-16-09 at 04:37 PM
Ditto. He's gone from "most hated" for me to one of my faves, based purely on his strategery.
"RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9"
Posted by Prof_ Wagstaff on 11-17-09 at 03:08 PM
I agree. I have to respect a player that plays the game this hard and this well. And I can't remember the last time I went from hating a player to appreciating him like like I have with RusHell.
Surfkitten Summer Sigshop 2008
"RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9"
Posted by Risti2 on 11-13-09 at 10:57 AM
Production Gufu #1 - "Random" Teams. Right.Production Gufu #2 - I've gone sliding down rock waterslides before. Do you know what happens quite frequently? The rocks rip a hole in the butt of your bathing suit if you don't wear shorts on top. Do you people <i>really</i> want to pixelate the rest of the season that badly?
Contestant #1 - Mick and Shambo, for clearly never playing with one of these...
Contestant #2 - Natalie, for not picking the team with all the Galu's, knowing that either way she'd be able to stop them from strategizing away from Foa Foa ears.
"RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9"
Posted by jbug on 11-13-09 at 11:09 AM
Good ones - esp #2!
& welcome!
"RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9"
Posted by Dakota on 11-13-09 at 02:40 PM
I kept wondering what was so difficult, but then I'm really good at a lot of things while sitting on the couch and watching others try. Welcome! Hope you stop in regularly.
A Tribe Creation - Springtime 2008
"RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9"
Posted by Risti2 on 11-14-09 at 06:47 PM
Thanks for the welcome, from you and everyone else. I actually hung around here pretty regularly a few years back (around Palau, the original All-Stars, and wherever they went the year that Tom won), but I lost the email address & password that went with my old nick (which was just "Risti"). I've been mostly lurking this season, but this episode was awesome so I had to comment.
"RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9"
Posted by vince3 on 11-13-09 at 03:19 PM
They also didn't play on this thing either......
The experience of putting those shapes in under a time limit would've helped them with moving a lot faster during that challenge than the glacial pace that they were doing once Laura caught fire.........
"RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9"
Posted by dabo on 11-16-09 at 09:09 PM
Welcome back, Risti!
"RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9"
Posted by Tublecane on 11-21-09 at 05:52 AM
LAST EDITED ON 11-21-09 AT 05:52 AM (EST)"Natalie, for not picking the team with all the Galu's, knowing that either way she'd be able to stop them from strategizing away from Foa Foa ears."
Good idea generally, but what did it matter? They had Shambo's ears, and Galu can't strategize anyway.
"RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9"
Posted by jbug on 11-13-09 at 11:08 AM
#1 - Russell - for giving that little smiley smirk (looked over to someone) when he hooked his second bag and seemed to be leisurely pulling it back until Jeff announced that Laura also had hers! You blew that one Russell.#2 - Laura - comment at TC toward RussHell.
Really - what did you expect the man to do? Keep the HII in his pocket and hand the million to you personally?
PO'd that he kicked one of your girls out?
"RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9"
Posted by Max Headroom on 11-13-09 at 11:10 AM
Production #1: For forgetting to hide the Immunity Idol. That's twice now that Russell H found it with no clues.
agman's helping me survive
"RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9"
Posted by jbug on 11-13-09 at 11:45 AM
Jiffy - or whoever made the decision to announce at TC that the HII would be re-hidden.
Why tell them? Make them think about it!
"RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9"
Posted by Tublecane on 11-21-09 at 05:54 AM
"Why tell them? Make them think about it!"I think that was so someone, anyone, looked for it besides Russell.
"RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9"
Posted by dabo on 11-13-09 at 11:52 AM
Well, at least they'll have to find some other place to "hide" it this time. Russ has obviously figured out how they decide where to hide these things, and for that he deserves a lot of credit. Using them repeatedly and making himself the Galu vote magnet, it is keeping him in the game but it doesn't seem like a winning strategy at this point.
"RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9"
Posted by Belle Book on 11-13-09 at 06:04 PM
LAST EDITED ON 11-13-09 AT 06:06 PM (EST)Contestant Gufu #1: All of Galu for not splitting their votes. They could've gotten Jaison out that way -- or Mick.
Contestant Gufu #2: Mick & Shambo for not knowing how to put the puzzle pieces together. As a result, Laura won Immunity.
Contestant Gufu #3: RussHell, for taking a little too much time with reeling in the second bag. That put Laura in position to win Immunity.
Production Gufu #1: Put the HII in some place that's hard to find next time, please.
"RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9"
Posted by SherpaDave on 11-13-09 at 09:58 PM
There weren't enough of them to split their votes and still have someone else be out. They'd have needed at least eight to even make it a tie with Foa Foa staying a solid four. They had seven. Not enough.
"RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9"
Posted by Belle Book on 11-14-09 at 12:55 PM
Yes, but there is a way around it. If Galu had suspected that RussHell had the idol, they could've given him three votes and given the four votes to Jaison, Mick or Natalie. That would've knocked out one of RussHell's puppets and made it 7-3 in favor of Galu -- and made it far less likely that Shambo would flip.
"RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9"
Posted by Chez on 11-14-09 at 01:22 PM
No, they still could not get around it. Voting 3 for RussHell and 4 for another FoaFoa does not help, so long as Shambo was in the Galu's confidence. Shambo would just tell Russ and he would give the idol to the other FF. The only way Galu could have gotten around the new HII would be if they did not tell Shambo the truth about their plan. They would have to tell her they were voting Russ, but instead give at least 5 votes to another FF.
"RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9"
Posted by Belle Book on 11-14-09 at 03:18 PM
I forgot to mention that little snag. I should've added that of course, the success of the plan depended on whether the others decided to keep Shambo in the dark or not. If they told her that they were voting out RussHell but instead gave four or five votes to another Foa Foa, it would've worked. If they told her the truth, they'd be doomed anyway. So maybe I should alter my Gufu to have it be one for the six true Galu members for not coming up with a plan that would successfully get around the possibility that RussHell might have found the second HII -- and the possibility that Shambo might be on RussHell's side.
"RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9"
Posted by Karchita on 11-14-09 at 04:09 PM
They discussed both of those possibilities and dismissed them, too. Their cockiness is becoming their downfall. It's not the first time we've seen this on Survivor, either.
"RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9"
Posted by nailbone on 11-16-09 at 04:52 PM
LAST EDITED ON 11-16-09 AT 04:53 PM (EST)Yeah, but it was only Monica that proposed that Russell had the HII and they should split the votes for Him and Jaison. She's just a girl, what does she know????
"RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9"
Posted by Karchita on 11-17-09 at 11:59 PM
That makes them more foolish than I first thought.
"RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9"
Posted by michel on 11-14-09 at 05:16 PM
Production Gufu: Telling us that Natalie killed a rat on day 22 but have Jaison tell us he's proud of what Natalie has done over the last 23 days. We saw that only Russell, Jaison, Mick, Brett and Laura were around in camp at the time so it happened while the others were at the waterfall. As soon as we saw the line-ups we knew which one was going to lose.Contestant Gufu: Dave: 1- Erik is a juror
2- Eliminating allies is just as good as eliminating the leader.
Welcome risti2 and good one:
Contestant #2 - Natalie, for not picking the team with all the Galu's, knowing that either way she'd be able to stop them from strategizing away from Foa Foa ears.
Although, with Russell and Laura on the same tribe, there wasn't going to be any important decisions made on the other side!!!
"RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9"
Posted by Molaholic on 11-14-09 at 08:12 PM
Production #1: Sits amongst the group moaning about the not-so-hidden HII.3. Howsabout a rule that says "you can't find the HII until you've read a clue."Production #2: Telling everyone about the HII.4. Hey, why not lie about it? Tell us there are no more... (what are the odds that they did lie and there is no HII.4???)
Contestant #1: RussHole -- go through all that about "I'm keeping this one secret", but then blab about it to Shambarinomeeno and JayShame.
thanks once again to Slicey
Here's a thought -- somebody make a fake HII and let RussHell find it...
"RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9"
Posted by anotherkim on 11-15-09 at 04:30 PM
who would have thought that all three of the first HIIs would be founds sans clue, though? It isn't like they could rewrite the rules mid-game. I imagine there will be some sort of adjustment made in future seasons.
Kimmah Says
--if someone found it without the clue in last season, i wouldn't know because i never watched an episode. this season, it's must-see for me again. go russell!!
"RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9"
Posted by dabo on 11-16-09 at 09:13 PM
They got lazy. Russ doesn't have to follow clues to find where to dig it up, he doesn't have to trek back and forth at exile following the path, he doesn't even have to break apart the set decorations at camp. All he had to figure out was what were good landmarks. Piece of cake.
"RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9"
Posted by jbug on 11-17-09 at 12:00 PM
So we could think......
RussHell talked about his strategy in regards to trying to find the HII to the producers before they were even taken to the locations.
And maybe someone at production figured RussHell was going to be a player and either loved or hated and decided to hide the idols easily on purpose?
"RE: S19 Gufu Award: Week 9"
Posted by dabo on 11-17-09 at 12:49 PM
For all we know others have searched for HIIs in previous seasons without clues but failed to find them because the idols either weren't at camp or were buried or something (one of the ones James had was built into a "set decoration" he had to dismantle). So, yeah, they may have had an idea about making them easier to find this season. I still say Russell got lucky in that regard.