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"JohnVito & Jill and the FF"

Posted by L82LIFE on 11-22-02 at 06:47 PM
JV&J are now the only team left with a FF in this race. If they can make it through the next elimination point and save it, then they will be assured a spot in the final three.

Do you think they'll hold off and use it when it's the most advantageous, or should they use it in the next elimination round to assure themselves that they'll stay in the game.

Whichever way they choose, it gives them an advantage over the other 4 teams left.



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"RE: JohnVito & Jill and the FF"
Posted by cmaybur on 11-22-02 at 07:00 PM
LAST EDITED ON 11-25-02 AT 09:54 AM (EST)

Since Jack and Jill are my pick for the next team to be eliminated, my guess is they will not go after the Fast Forward. They're in the middle of the pack, know they are the only team left who can go for it, and will probably save it until they think they need it. Too bad they won't realize they need it until they step on the mat in Singapore and find out they are eliminated...


Chris

"Ten countries, four continents, forty-six thousand miles... Derek and Drew, you are the winners of The Amazing Race."


"RE: JohnVito & Jill and the FF"
Posted by VA Slim on 11-25-02 at 08:48 AM
Good point. I put the following in another thread, but it serves just as well here:

In TAR1 at the point where only 5 teams remain, only Guidos and Momily had not used their FF (they were in 4th and 5th place at that point). During the elimination of 5th place episode, they both went for the FF with the Guidos winning it (then blowing it) and Momily had their meltdown and lost without using the FF. In TAR2, 3 of the 5 remaining teams (in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd) had not used the FF by this point. All used their FF's to remain in contention until the last episode. Here we have only 1 team still holding onto the opportunity to use the FF - JV/J. They are in 3rd, a few hours behind 1st but a couple of hours ahead of 5th. Knowing that they are the only ones left with the FF they try to race and save it for later but stumble by the next elimination point and are off to "Loser Island".


"Not that it would amount to a hill of beans but............"
Posted by corcam on 11-23-02 at 00:46 AM
I was messing around and I averaged out the placement that the teams have placed during the last 7 legs of the race including their ff.


F/Z 2--5--3--2--4--2--1

JV/J 5--7--7--6--4--5--3

D/D 11--1--1--3--3--4--2

K/G 1--6--2--1--1--3--5

T/I 9--10--9--5--6--1--4

AVG F/Z 2.71, D/D 3.57, JV/J 5.29, T/I 6.29, K/G 2.71

I figure I did this right I am sure I will burn if I am wrong :O



"Thought this might save you some math...."
Posted by Esbea on 11-23-02 at 10:21 AM
I took the time to figure that out once too..and youre probably right...however CBS has this (rounded) info on the TAR3 website under the "Leaderboard". This is what they have for this week:
Ken/Gerard 3
Flo/Zac 3
DD 4
JVJ 5
Teri/Ian 6

Statistically, Teri and Ian should have been out long ago.


"I prefer the wicked to the foolish. The wicked sometimes rest."


"RE: Thought this might save you some math...."
Posted by corcam on 11-25-02 at 06:32 PM
Ahh you learn something new everyday I didn't know that was there.

"RE: JohnVito & Jill and the FF"
Posted by TARantado on 12-02-02 at 05:30 PM
I really do hope they don't use the fast forward for this next leg. They are only a minute behind Ken/Gerald. They should use it to get to the final three, not the final four.

What's worse is that the only benefit that the fast forward could give them in a non-elimination leg is time, which could be easily be useless when the teams bunch up. The fast forward hopefully gives them assurance of not being eliminated if it were an elimination leg.

Problem is they (and we) can only speculate which legs are elimination and non-elimination legs.

Good luck to JVJ !


"RE: JohnVito & Jill and the FF"
Posted by Cole on 12-02-02 at 05:34 PM
<<I really do hope they don't use the fast forward for this next leg. They are only a minute behind Ken/Gerald. They should use it to get to the final three, not the final four.>>

I think they will think similarly and try and save their fast forward. But as much as I like this team, I think they will be eliminated in the next leg because they will want to save their FF for the final three.