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"OT - Give me a break"

Posted by byoffer on 04-01-13 at 11:55 AM
After watching that gory incident in the NCAA basketball game yesterday (where a kid's leg snapped) I got thinking about the breaks I have had over the years, and wondered what breaks you all have had. Most of us who grew up climbing trees and riding bikes without helmets have had some injuries. What were yours?

Mine:
- in the fall when I was 15 I broke my ankle playing basketball. First practice of the season. Went to cut and rolled it right over. I had a cast for 6 weeks (the old plaster kind) and then was pretty much back to normal (normal for me). I was even able to play on the "B" basketball team that winter and competed track & field in the spring. No lasting effects from that, and After years of running I have learned to how to roll my ankle now without doing damage.

- almost exactly 12 months later I broke my shoulder playing football with some friends at the park. No equipment, but certainly tackle. I was running round the corner, got pushed, and flew through the air landing with a crunch on my shoulder. I was woozy when I got up, tried to pick up the ball, and realized something was wrong. I walked over to the hospital (adjacent to the park where we were playing) and waited. After a long time, they told me it was broken, but the doctor I needed to see was doing another surgery. I was sent home with a sling and instructions to return the next day for surgery. Tough to sleep like that! I had a screw put into my shoulder for 3 months. That was the end of my HS basketball career, though I was the team manager that year. Other than the long scar on my shoulder and a pretty big bump, my shoulder is mostly good and let's me play sports, lift heavy things, and wrassle with my kids.

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"RE: OT - Give me a break"
Posted by kingfish on 04-01-13 at 12:24 PM
LAST EDITED ON 04-01-13 AT 12:28 PM (EST)

I enthusiastically signed up for the company softball team about 15 years ago. First game: Went a couple of innings, made a few plays, and finally got to bat in the third. Smashed the first pitch between second and third, the SS bobbled it and I rounded first and headed for second. And after a couple more bobbles, I was still thrown out.

And I rolled my ankle as I crossed second, cracked two heel bones and pulled apart some of the small tarsal bones. After the pain set in, it hurt like a son of a gun. Three innings, one at bat, and one pitch. That was the end of my softball career. Six weeks in a cast, and still some permanent ligament damage. I still sometimes limp when the metatarsal bones don't line up right.


"RE: OT - Give me a break"
Posted by Snidget on 04-01-13 at 12:31 PM
I paid all my plaster cast karma up front. My hip joints hadn't fully formed so I had plaster casts from waist to toes for the first 6 months of my life, cut off the exact second they cured and stopped being obnoxious and replaced with fresh plaster to begin the curing process all over again.

The closest I got was cracking the cartilage in my nose, with a horse, and a tree.


"RE: OT - Give me a break"
Posted by Estee on 04-01-13 at 01:33 PM
LAST EDITED ON 04-01-13 AT 01:35 PM (EST)

This brings up any number of questions, but the ones I'm going with are Diapers, Total Lack Of Ability To Conventionally Wear (because the plaster adds ten pounds), How Do I Roll Over With This Crap On My Legs, and Crawling? You Want Me To What?


"RE: OT - Give me a break"
Posted by Snidget on 04-01-13 at 01:54 PM
Diapers - The legs were spread and held at the proper angle with a metal bar. There was a hole large enough to shove a diaper into and tuck under the cast. Reports are diapering was easier as I couldn't play those curl the legs up into the way games. Once you grabbed my bar there wasn't much I could do to avoid the diaper change.

10 pounds-The weight record in my baby book does have some odd spikes to it depending on if it was a cast change day or not.

Rolling Over - Mom says that was the day she knew I was stubborn.

Crawling - Did I mention I was stubborn? Did wonders for my early upper arm strength as my Mom attested to when she recalled any time I flailed a bit and punched her. Especially they day I punched her square in the throat.

Probably still better than waiting for the false joint to form then breaking my hips when I was about 3 years old so they could reset the joint in the right spot. That is what they did to kids before they figured out the as an infant thing.

The main long lasting issue is I do tend to jump at sudden high pitched whining noises. And I think any hand held saw is out to get me. I can do radial arm saws, table saws, Miter Boxes, but loose saws, they are out to get me. I don't even like touching them when they are unplugged.


"RE: OT - Give me a break"
Posted by byoffer on 04-01-13 at 11:10 PM
My daughter was born with a crooked foot (something about being bent in the womb) so she got a cast for a very short period of time after she was born. Sounds like this was not a big deal at all, and she has never had problems with her foot.

Apparently I am correct when I often say, "kids are made of rubber".


"RE: OT - Give me a break"
Posted by kidflash212 on 04-01-13 at 12:39 PM
I had only one minor break - a finger during a football game in HS. I was forever getting stitches though. Bashed my head on a fire hydrant and got nine stitches right by my hairline. Got hit in the head with a rock and got three stitches on the back of my head. Several on my leg and arm as well.

"RE: OT - Give me a break"
Posted by VisionQuest on 04-01-13 at 01:19 PM
Broke my arm (ulna and radius) jumping off a bike. It was one of those bikes that only had back pedaling brakes. The chain came off and I had no brakes and I was heading towards a busy intersection. I tried to jump off and grab a side mirror on a truck (these were big back in the day). I didn't even come close to the side mirror and instead landed on the street.

"RE: OT - Give me a break"
Posted by foonermints on 04-01-13 at 01:32 PM
I blew myself up once. Had to have a bone graft from my hip to piece back together my left arm.
Uh Oh! Since it's not sports-related it probably doesn't count.


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"RE: OT - Give me a break"
Posted by Max Headroom on 04-01-13 at 02:33 PM
I'm an orthopedist's best friend.

1. Broke my left collar bone in the second grade. I was playing the old playground staple "Smear the Queer", fell on the ground, and had the biggest kid in the fourth grade land on me at top speed. Got up to continue playing and noted my arm no longer worked. Though I didn't end up in a cast, collar bone fractures are very painful and I had to wear this extremely uncomfortable sling-like contraption for several weeks.

Side note: For those not familiar with southern Indiana playground games from the 1970s, "Smear the Queer" was essentially no-rules tackle football.

2. Broke my right wrist when I was 14. I was flying down a hill on a runner sled and came over a rise to see a tree directly in front of me. My choices were to either turn left and go into a giant sticker bush or turn right and try to squeeze between the tree and a chain link fence. I went right and the sled almost fit between the tree and the fence. Missed it by that much and was rewarded with six weeks in a cast.

3. Broke my left thumb while downhill skiing in my mid-twenties. I fell awkwardly, "jammed" my thumb, went to the first aid station and got it taped up, and skied the rest of the day. Got home late that night, took off the tape... and off to the hospital I went. That one got me four weeks in a splint.


"RE: OT - Give me a break"
Posted by Estee on 04-01-13 at 02:42 PM
"Smear the Queer"

Heartland values in action.

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"RE: OT - Give me a break"
Posted by byoffer on 04-01-13 at 11:17 PM
We played a ton of no-rules tackle football (no equipment, right?), though I can 100% absolutely say I have never heard it called "smear the queer".

I did get smeared though. Aside from the broken shoulder (which I don't consider getting smeared), I do remember going home one day with a bloody nose and my glasses in two pieces. I was tall, but that kid was big and went right through me!


"RE: OT - Give me a break"
Posted by sharnina on 04-11-13 at 02:42 PM
In all fairness to Max, I looked up this term and found this message board that had some interesting contributions. It's a known game called by this name and various others.

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=448140


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"RE: OT - Give me a break"
Posted by moonbaby on 04-01-13 at 02:52 PM
I've broken my little toe a couple of times, dislocated it once, too. I walked around barefoot and didn't watch where I was going-a bad combination. Seeing that little toe sticking out at a right angle to the foot was just...YUCK. I braced myself and hit it back into place. Shoe shopping with the dreaded toe has become a project.

When I was young and adventurous I dislocated my kneecap while hiking on some mountain in Acadia National Park. Had to be carried down on a stretcher made of rain gear. Note: helicopters don't rescue you in real life. Seeing that knee cap on the outside of the leg was just...YUCK. It wouldn't go back where it belonged. I only tried once and it hurt way too much. The doctor came in fresh off the golf course, drugged me up and whacked it back into place.

Sprained my ankles more than I'd care to admit. Have used an a air cast more than once. At one point the orthopedist flat out asked me if I EVER look where I am going. I do now!

That's it!



"RE: OT - Give me a break"
Posted by byoffer on 04-01-13 at 11:19 PM
Oh I forgot about broken baby toes. Furniture and bare feet is a lethal combination for baby toes. Both my baby toes are somewhat crooked (and often sore in shoes).

"RE: OT - Give me a break"
Posted by cahaya on 04-01-13 at 06:40 PM
One broken bone, as a result of playing street basketball. (Figures, doesn't it?)

There were about a dozen of us regulars at Bryan Park in Bloomington, Indiana, who played hoop in the ubiquitous public outdoor courts in basketball country. I had a knack for breaking loose from my defender and skying for the hoop to catch a pass on the way up, taking it in above the rim.

Unfortunately, the defender of the guy passing the ball to me slightly deflected the high-velocity ball and instead of going into my open hands for an easy reverse lefty lay up, the ball's trajectory went straight into my left index finger, square on. Simple physics meant that something had to give, and it wasn't the ball. Ouch! I felt it for months afterward, not getting medical attention for it, but I did splint it and massage it to restore it to basketball playing condition. Now that many years have past since then, I still feel it from time to time, depending on the weather.


"RE: OT - Give me a break"
Posted by mrc on 04-02-13 at 09:04 AM
I've never broken anything but hearts.

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Seriously. I've been fortunate not to have broken any bones.


"RE: OT - Give me a break"
Posted by samboohoo on 04-03-13 at 09:25 AM

Sadly, my biggest and longest-lasting break was a heartbreak.


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"Question?"
Posted by kingfish on 04-02-13 at 10:29 AM
And maybe I'm missing something important here, but the one replay I watched had him leaving his feet to block a jumper, coming down, and his leg giving way.

Granted, his landing must have been awkward, but athletes do 'awkward' all the time without suffering compound fractures. How can a BB player for a major BB NCAA school (Louisville) have made to that point in his career without having this leg weakness exposed before now?

Did he have a medical history with that leg? Commentators speculated that he must have had a prior stress fracture, and that would make sense, but still, how could he have started that game with a broken leg?

I didn’t watch it, so did he have a collision or something earlier in the game that might have cause a crack?


"RE: Question?"
Posted by cahaya on 04-02-13 at 10:37 AM
LAST EDITED ON 04-02-13 AT 10:45 AM (EST)

One explanation:

Louisville basketball player Kevin Ware's horrific leg fracture was a freak accident that may have been exacerbated by previously undetected stress fractures.

"He came down hard, landing in an awkward way," said Dr. Robert Glatter, an emergency physician at Lenox Hill Hospital in New York and a former sideline physician for the New York Jets football team. "That combined with an underlying bone issue or an existing stress fracture predisposes someone to this type of injury."

Tim Hewett, director of sports medicine research at Ohio State University agreed. He speculated that Ware's diet could have been deficient in vitamin D and calcium leading to more porous bones. That, combined with the constant pounding Ware endured through an entire season of basketball, may have created small stress fractures in the tibia and fibula bones in his lower leg, causing his bone to snap when he took a bad step.

"Watching the video tape over and over, I would not expect this type of fracture to occur. I suspect he had some risk factors that created some sort of bone deficit," he said.

(eta) Another article on the same.


"RE: Question?"
Posted by Snidget on 04-02-13 at 12:03 PM
Being a tall boy he may have grown too fast at one point and with just the wrong diet, or not enough sunlight, etc. There may have been a weak point, add a potential stress fracture and I watched the landing several times, that kind of lateral movement wouldn't effect a normal bone, but if it was already cracked and you got just the right twist it could separate then having your whole weight coming down is probably what made it end up as it did.

Unfortunately sometimes you don't find the stress fracture (and with the adrenaline of the game he may have not even been feeling any pain from it starting to go) until some force in the right/wrong direction makes it blow completely.

And an achy shin isn't uncommon in athletes. It would be interesting to see if he complained of shin splints leading up to the tournament.


"RE: Question?"
Posted by kingfish on 04-02-13 at 12:31 PM
He may have had an inherent weakness, but that isn't an explaination for how he could be on a Major college BB team, a starter no less, and not had that weakness exposed before now.

And I'm told that stress fractures are painful. When stressed, much the same as ordinary fractures. Even so, some athletes that incur stress fractures do try to play thru the pain when they receive them during a game. But starting a game with that kind of pain?

That's bravery and dedication to the game. And frankly, a form of idiocy.


"RE: Question?"
Posted by Snidget on 04-02-13 at 01:21 PM
That's why I'm wondering if he may have thought it was a shin splint (which is annoying but not all that serious cause of pain) or maybe even fell earlier cracking it on something and just thought it was bruised.

I dunno how often athletes get random X-rays of the long bones just to see how normal they are, or how visible this was prior to letting itself be known so dramatically.

Could be one of those things that rarely would cause anyone problems even up to normal levels of fitness, but the extreme stress eventually caught up with him. A lot just happens to be luck, just never getting just the wrong stress in just the wrong direction.

That it seemed to be a fairly normal jump just seems to indicate something was just a bit funny. Maybe if they can figure it out they can find a way to monitor for it. Although I think if you did enough tests you'd find some funny anatomical glitch in just about everyone. Most of them never cause a problem unless the stars align and they've got just the wrong stress put on them.

Could even be some undiagnosed Marfan's syndrome. Isn't unheard of for even an elite athlete to never have gotten that diagnosed until something bad happens, and that it makes you taller than your genes would otherwise indicate means it tends to be common in tall people, like basketball players.


"RE: Question?"
Posted by cahaya on 04-04-13 at 06:50 PM
LAST EDITED ON 04-04-13 AT 06:50 PM (EST)

Here's an interesting article about sports medicine research in identifying those players who might be prone to these types of injuries.

Doctors from Ohio State University are finding that certain players may be more prone to particular injuries -- and it has to do with how they move.

And in an effort to cut down on injuries on the court or the field, Dr. Timothy Hewett, who heads the project at OSU's Wexner Medical Center, and his team have developed simple screening tests to better determine who is at risk for certain problems before damage occurs.

"What we've demonstrated in the laboratory," Hewett says, "is that we can predict with greater than 80% accuracy who is at higher risk for relative injury."

The screening techniques are so accurate that the National Basketball Association has asked OSU doctors to help identify which of their athletes are at the highest risk for anterior cruciate ligament, or ACL, and other injuries, and to come up with programs to try and prevent them, so that more players are on the court than on the bench.


"RE: OT - Give me a break"
Posted by samboohoo on 04-03-13 at 09:34 AM
I've broken a finger or two, but I've had two serious breaks (aside from my heart as I mentioned below).

1. Left Ankle: I was playing softball sophomore year of high school. I was having one of my best games. I had thrown out a runner at second and had made a play at the plate the inning prior. I was on first after a single. It was somewhat chilly, and field conditions weren't peak. We had had rain. I remember standing on first and giving my jacket to my coach, which meant I was going to be stealing. I ran for second and slid. My left foot hit the bag. There was the shout of "Safe," followed by my screams. We had ridden to the away game on a school bus. Fortunately a friend with a car had come to the game, and he gave me and a coach a ride to the hospital. the next day I had to crutch it about five blocks to a specialist.

2. Left Wrist - 2009. Some of you may remember. I was at a boot camp at the gym. It was the 4th of July. We were outside running different drills. One was to shuttle backward. I fell back and caught myself with my wrist. It did not break the skin, but I remember seeing the bone sitting up. It made my physically ill. Surgery followed and a plate and screws were put in. Months of therapy followed. I have only been able to do real pushups since last year.



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"RE: OT - Give me a break"
Posted by Starshine on 04-03-13 at 06:51 PM
I've never knowingly broken a bone, however it is possible that I have broken my right little toe on a couple of occasions in Who put what there? kicking incidents (like Moonie I walk around barefooted indoors).

Other than that I bent my right thumb backwards saving a goal once (and stuck to my attacking midfielder role from then on) and flew off something like this but for four children and with a more powerful spring, when two teenagers decided to see how much it would buck, and my six year old self couldn't hang on anymore which involved a trip to hospital, stitches, and a missing hour and an half. Very surprised I didn't break anything then.

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"RE: OT - Give me a break"
Posted by HobbsofMI on 04-04-13 at 11:20 AM
The only bones I broke were my tib/fib while skiing during my freshman year at MTU where at the time they didn't have snow making machines so it was all natural, which was good, but if you didn't have enough it didn't cover up all the logs and rocks on the hill, the bad. It was Winter Carnival and we were waiting for our heats in the Solomon when a buddy was part of the schools video crew asked us to do a jump that was set up. I did but had to take a different line due to spectators and hit something in the snow just before the ramp. Pitcher ABC wide world of sports agony of defeat...that's was me.

Well being in the UP of MI the doctors are not so good, we found out later the doc who worked on my was malpracticed out of 2 other places, so I waited 6 hours for the doc who set my leg and then they did it again the next day. They discharged me with a 102 temp because I wanted to go and that really pissed off my mom but hey....I was 550 miles from her.

We had three weeks and finals left so I stayed and went back to him one more time two weeks after the break. He cut a circle around the cast and set it a third time. Never go see a Yooper Doctor!

To make a long story short I had no bone growth for 8 months and they put me on a bone healing machine, a electromagnetic coil - my AC unit and battery pact, because they didn't want to operate. I was in a cast for 14 months and on crutches for 16 months going through two UP winters where it averaged over 300 inches each year but I only feel twice. My right leg was a toothpick once it was out and is still smaller today then the left but they are the same length which is one of the big reasons why they didn't want to operate.


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"RE: OT - Give me a break"
Posted by universityofkentuckyrocks on 04-04-13 at 10:32 PM
Thankfully, I've only broken a bone once in my life. I was three years old. I broke my collarbone because I rolled off of my bed. Go ahead and make fun of me. I don't remember a thing from that other than the severe bruise I had on my elbow that left a scar.

Other than that I've not had any broken bones since then. I'm thankful for that because I know I'm lucky. I've had some close calls, once with my wrist, and once with my ankle. Both had to be wrapped up for two to four weeks. Now with my luck, I'll break a bone this summer.


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Posted by jbug on 04-11-13 at 03:17 PM
LAST EDITED ON 04-11-13 AT 03:17 PM (EST)

hairline fracture in hand from sliding into base playing softball
and a toe - hit it on a bar stool - at home!


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