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"Whinney, clop clop. How far can this go?"
Posted by kingfish on 02-26-13 at 12:07 PM
At first it was just horse meat in England, Italy and France.

Then IKEA meatballs. Now it's all over, and now that they are looking (what the heck were they doing before?) they are finding goat meat, donkey meat, and other stuff as well as horse meat.

I just hope they are testing for Jimmy Hoffa meat also.


http://tinyurl.com/strangemeat

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"RE: Whinney, clop clop. How far can this go?"
Posted by Estee on 02-26-13 at 12:21 PM
After Anthony Bourdain ate Rainbow Dash, I figured it had gone mainstream.

The main bias against horse meat is cultural. It's essentially the same problem we have with eating dogs: once you take a species on as a partner, consuming them seems somewhat impolite. I can buy goat meat at a number of local markets, but generally don't do so for one reason: I've seen what they eat. There are people who swear by it, though. Buffalo is frequently considered to be an upgrade over beef. As for donkey meat -- never even seen it, but if it's alive, someone will try to consume it. Forget the bravery in tackling eggs: insane for calories was the person who first tried to open a sea urchin.

The real issue here is the labeling. I'm not sure where religious issues come in because I'm not familiar with South African faiths or what they prohibit eating. Health impacts... well, buffalo at least is sometimes said to be better for you, but when you put them all together...

Honestly, it's nothing that U.S. corporations wouldn't try to get away with if our laws weren't already in place. They certainly did before The Jungle was published. Give them a loophole and they'll stuff a sausage through it. Just don't ask what with.

Maybe they should be a little more worried about that 'plant material'. Some plants are poisonous.

You just wanted to post something where you could use the words 'strange meat'.

"RE: Whinney, clop clop. How far can this go?"
Posted by Snidget on 02-26-13 at 12:37 PM
*nods* I know a couple of people from central Asian countries where horse meat is regularly consumed and what you would probably offer an honored guest.

AFAIK it is a fairly healthy meat to consume, it is just the cultural thing as to whether people think it is OK to eat.

I have turned people into vegetarians by informing them of what factory farmed critters are fed. If I am what I eat and they are what they eat then...pass the veggies.

Best not to think too much about it.

"RE: Whinney, clop clop. How far can this go?"
Posted by kingfish on 02-26-13 at 01:30 PM
Yeah, it is a labeling thing, and the occurrences of food mislabeling issues shouldn't come as too much of a surprise. Hopefully in steak houses they stick to beef if that’s what’s on the menu.

I would like to taste authentic horse meat though, if only to get a baseline idea of what it tastes like. Because I've had restaurant meals where the meat tasted different and I had the distinct feeling it wasn't the beef it was advertised to be. I just bet they were serving horse. There just can’t be enough cat and/or dog meat available to supply a restaurant for very long.

In Turkey and probably other countries where lamb is a common dish basis, it is common practice to label goat as lamb, but since I like both and they really taste similar (I can't tell the difference), so what.

In Africa it could be more problematic, especially in some countries, because of the variety of wild meat available and the rampant meat poaching. No matter how good it might be, I would be horrified to find that I had just dined on monkey meat. I tried Kudu. It was pretty good. And it was on the menu as Kudu.

In some countries, meat tastes bad-different (Mexico) and in some countries meat tastes good-different (Italy). I think that you just have to be sanguine about it and try to verify that they at least cook it thoroughly, at least in those places where you might not have full confidence in the Chef.

"Don't eat the meat pies!"
Posted by moonbaby on 02-26-13 at 02:34 PM
"RE: Don't eat the meat pies!"
Posted by kidflash212 on 02-26-13 at 03:30 PM
Worst pies in London
"RE: Don't eat the meat pies!"
Posted by kingfish on 02-26-13 at 03:33 PM
LAST EDITED ON 02-26-13 AT 03:35 PM (EST)

Hey, I got'cher meat pie, right here!

(I heard that paraphrased in Joisey once).

"RE: Don't eat the meat pies!"
Posted by kidflash212 on 02-26-13 at 10:48 PM
You should watch who you say that to.
"RE: Whinney, clop clop. How far can this go?"
Posted by Molaholic on 02-26-13 at 04:43 PM
OK -- let's take this "I'm eating what the thing I'm eating ate." to the plant level -- consider this:

Just where do the nutrients found in soil come from? How about the primary ingredient of fertilizer for one...

In the end , it's all just a bunch of organic molecules passing through just another digestive tract. So bon appétit!

"I Don't Care if it IS Alligator"
Posted by foonermints on 02-26-13 at 10:20 PM
CTgirl Obama Chupacabra habla: "Give Foonermints Your Sammich!!"
"I Don't Care if it IS Alligator"
Posted by kingfish on 02-26-13 at 10:39 PM
"A Horse Limo?"
Posted by foonermints on 02-27-13 at 00:14 AM

There better be a saddlebag with some whiskey, Pilgrim.

"RE: Whinney, clop clop. How far can this go?"
Posted by Starshine on 02-27-13 at 07:44 AM
Personally I really like horse meat, trouble is that very few butchers sell it, and with P&P it is twice the price of steak.

The issue here isn't the horsemeat per se, it is the fact that the meat tracking process has been abused. Horses are sometimes given a medicine called Phenylbutazone or as we know it now Bute, this medicine can give humans a very nasty illness called aplastic anemia. Horses that have been given this medicine are excluded from the food chain, however since there weren't meant to be horses in this particular food chain where is the bute free guarantee?

I think it is most European countries that have been impacted by this now.

Funniest bit was when someone trying to cover their posterior pointed the finger at some Romanian exporters and accused them of passing off, turns out that the Romanians had only slaughtered and exported horse during the problem period and the inspection of their documentation took about half an hour to prove that. Oops back to the Netherlands to look at the dodgy importer.

"Flying Rat"
Posted by foonermints on 03-01-13 at 01:28 AM
Pigeons must be cheaper. Ask Estee. I think it's one of Gordon's favorites.
"RE: Flying Rat"
Posted by Starshine on 03-01-13 at 09:17 AM
Sadly most of the pigeons round here are diseased wretches, just checked though and at 60 bob a go I might go for a couple of Wood pigeons
"RE: Flying Rat"
Posted by foonermints on 03-01-13 at 09:31 AM
Who knew you were Bolivian?


60 Bolivian Boliviano equals

8.56 US Dollar


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"RE: Flying Rat"
Posted by kingfish on 03-01-13 at 10:37 AM
LAST EDITED ON 03-01-13 AT 12:40 PM (EST)

Sounds like a job for...Doctors without Species Borders!

Are your pigeons diseased pitiful wretches? Well you're in luck, our staff of carefully selected doctors who don't (actually, they can't, they're not really all that smart) recognize the difference between human doctoring and pigeon doctoring (or even just piddling around in the odd abdominal cavity) will come to your aid.

Well, then call the DWSB switchboard and we'll have a team of crack(ed) specialists winging its way to you, ASAP, just as soon as your credit card clears. (Some travel, shipping, handling, private jet, five star hotel, and champagne expenses apply).

"DWSB"
Posted by foonermints on 03-01-13 at 11:27 PM
There's a United Nations joke in here somewhere..

tiny little devil: "crack specialists" HEE! my job is done for now

"RE: DWSB"
Posted by kingfish on 03-02-13 at 12:45 PM
There's a follow-up, Nurses With With Big Boobies. Based out of Cartagena Columbia.

Makes problems with pigeons have not quite the importance as before. Therefore, a cure.

"RE: Whinney, clop clop. How far can this go?"
Posted by kingfish on 02-27-13 at 12:07 PM
This is an oldie but goodie. It's been posted before, but it's topical and hilarious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOy2QCssTaI



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