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"I'm guessing he doesn't read any long books."

Posted by Estee on 02-08-13 at 11:52 AM
http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/man-quits-over-666-on-tax-form-1033251.php

Okay: serious question here. Depending on how a Bible is printing -- font size, arrangement of passages, commentary and interpretations alongside the main text -- it could easily spin out to the not-so-magic number and beyond. So (and again, being serious here), has anyone ever seen one that just outright skips from 665 to 667, the way some hotels refuse to have a numbered 13th floor?

And if your personal Bible does count that page -- what's on it?

By the way, a couple of years ago, I read a very long collection of short stories and poetry compiled from various authors. Page #Beast?

Ambrose Bierce.

I keep waiting for the inevitable 'Paying taxes is now against my religion' lawsuit.


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"RE: I'm guessing he doesn't read any long books."
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 02-08-13 at 12:08 PM
"God is worth more than the money"? Then I hope he won't mind doing without his unemployment cheques as well -- north of the border, if you quit your job because you 'feel like it' (no, quitting because of the 666 number doesn't count as a justifiable quit), you're outta luck in getting social welfare.

"RE: I'm guessing he doesn't read any long books."
Posted by kingfish on 02-08-13 at 02:59 PM
Another semi-serious question/observation:

Seriously, do people really believe in magic? Or symbology as a life guide? Or ghosts? I’d like to play cards with those people.

Also, the literal interpretation of 666 depends on the numbering system originally used by John or whoever is reputed to have written Revelations.

If the number was written out in numeric symbols, they would have used different symbols, and if the message is symbolic we need a legend or it’s meaningless to us. And if it was written out in text, then there would have been an interpretation question. And, if by chance the old people used a different base number system, well, the confusion (read idiocy) is compounded.


"RE: I'm guessing he doesn't read any long books."
Posted by cahaya on 02-08-13 at 07:43 PM
I’d like to play cards with those people.

Put me on the other side of the table from you, pard'ner, and we'll rake in the tithes.

And the ante.


"RE: I'm guessing he doesn't read any long books."
Posted by Starshine on 02-08-13 at 03:37 PM
What would the poor bunny do if he had my birthday the middle three digits of which are 666?


"RE: I'm guessing he doesn't read any long books."
Posted by Snidget on 02-08-13 at 04:42 PM
You know, that explains a lot...

"RE: I'm guessing he doesn't read any long books."
Posted by cahaya on 02-08-13 at 07:43 PM
Good heavens.

"RE: I'm guessing he doesn't read any long books."
Posted by kidflash212 on 02-17-13 at 12:09 PM
I skirted around it - 6/5/67

"RE: I'm guessing he doesn't read any long books."
Posted by cahaya on 02-08-13 at 07:40 PM
It's kind of funny... two days ago, the IT director where I work walked into one of my colleagues office while I was there and we were talking about the deluge of e-mails we get. The IT director was about to call it a day and catch up with the e-mails from home when he noticed that he had 666 e-mails in the inbox (the vast majority of them read, but still quite a few unread). He said that before he could leave he had to deal with his e-mails and move some into archive folders so that 666 wouldn't show up again for his inbox count!

"RE: I'm guessing he doesn't read any long books."
Posted by Colonel Zoidberg on 02-08-13 at 07:45 PM
First point - clearly this man doesn't understand the symbolism of the number 666. In Hebrew, words correspond to numbers based on what the letters add up to, i.e. the word for "life," which I think would be transcribed in Roman characters as "chay" (pronounced "hi" with a bit more phlegm on the "h") adds up to 18. As such, when Jewish grandparents send their grandkids birthday checks, multiples of 18 are common.

(Aside: Someone tried this numerology to prove that the internet was Satanic by pointing out that the Hebrew character equivalent to "W" was 6, and as such, "WWW" translated to "666"...but clearly there is a lack of understanding of how Hebrew numerology works. The numbers are added together, not read sequentially; as such, "WWW" would actually be 6+6+6, or 18 - the aforementioned "chay," or life. As such, the point being "proved" becomes an epic fail."

In any case, the number 666 was used in a similar manner, referring to an actual person - Emperor Nero, who, judging by the way he was discussed by Roman tour guides when I was in Italy last May, is the Roman Empire's equivalent of Hitler in how he's perceived. It would be the equivalent of people adding, say, a modern liberal political commentator's writings from the mid-2000s into a holy book in a couple hundred years in which former president George W. Bush is referred throughout as "W," stating that "W is the greatest enemy to human civilization," and people in the year 4000 being squeamish about the letter W being in anything.

Second point - skipping unlucky numbers is appropriate in some places, i.e. the 13th floor here, the 4th floor in China or Japan, the 4th spot at a baccarat table, etc. For an employee ID? Don't be stupid, stupid.


"RE: I'm guessing he doesn't read any long books."
Posted by cahaya on 02-08-13 at 08:53 PM
The number 666 is a myth. Having said that, many people believe in and base their lives on myths.

Come to SE Asia, where there is a strong Chinese influence, and you'll see Floor 13 and Floor 13A, but no floor 14, in office and hotel buildings. Gong Xi Fa Cai, which is just a day away!


"RE: I'm guessing he doesn't read any long books."
Posted by Colonel Zoidberg on 02-09-13 at 03:05 PM
"Come to SE Asia, where there is a strong Chinese influence, and you'll see Floor 13 and Floor 13A, but no floor 14, in office and hotel buildings."

Put it this way - we just got a casino here, and the baccarat tables are played almost exclusively by Asians. The spots go 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9. (It's mini-baccarat, not full baccarat, so no 14-place tables.)

I just wonder why the people who made our craps tables didn't have the good sense to skip over spot 7 on the Fire Bet.


"RE: I'm guessing he doesn't read any long books."
Posted by kingfish on 02-09-13 at 09:20 PM
LAST EDITED ON 02-09-13 AT 09:23 PM (EST)

Not to go off topic, but I'm going off topic.

Zoid, dude, you're in Asia? When did you go there? You haven't been there all along have you? Where in Asia?

Hopefully there's no superstition associated with the number 21?


"Triple centerfold!"
Posted by cahaya on 02-10-13 at 01:03 AM
Hey, grats on your 15K (plus 15 more, at this point)!

You have a way about your posts that your post count escapes attention (unless I missed reference to it in another thread).

Sharp, witty, fishy, yup, that's you.


"RE: Triple centerfold!"
Posted by kingfish on 02-10-13 at 09:34 AM
Thanks, C.

That snuck up on me. Last time I noticed it it was still 20-30 short of 15K. Now I can breath again.


"RE: I'm guessing he doesn't read any long books."
Posted by KeithFan on 02-17-13 at 05:29 PM
Like as in someday the Cubs will win it all.

"RE: I'm guessing he doesn't read any long books."
Posted by Starshine on 02-09-13 at 09:48 AM
Nero is a difficult subject, not insane like Caligula, but rather more interested in himself than the Empire.

It is interesting to note though that there were large rebellions after his death led by people pretending to be him, and that these had a large amount of popular support, although this could have been a clamour for stability in an unstable world it seems to me to point to Nero having popularity amongst the hoi polloi. Historians of the period were from the leading class and are always harsh on emperors who didn't spend all their time working on the empire.

As Nero was the first ruler to martyr Christians his press didn't improve later. I highly recommend Ted Champlins' book Nero which puts forward a number of interesting points on the great fire of Rome and does a masterful job of interpreting Nero from the historical sources.


"RE: I'm guessing he doesn't read any long books."
Posted by tribephyl on 02-08-13 at 11:06 PM
I can empathize though.
I worked for a restaurant that was simply named 230.
For MANY years past my departure from 230. the number 230 pops up everywhere for me. Drycleaning tickets, hotel rooms in vegas, parking spots, order numbers and of course, the two times I MOST often ask "What time is it?" The answer is, you guessed it...2:30. Not 2:31. Never 2:29.
It has the same chilling effect on me every time I see (or hear) that combo.

I have definitely read page 666 when included in books and don't recall it ever being skipped over. Personally, I think finding a 666 on anything other than a large tome would be astoundingly remarkable.

In fact, in my "bible" (the new american catholic edition) on page 666, the first verse is actually Proverbs 13:21 oooo... 13!
"Misfortune pursues sinners, but the just shall be recompensed with good."
and the last verse is Proverbs 14:24
"The crown of the wise is resourcefulness, the diadem of fools is folly."

Boy, you sure can read evil into both of those, can'tcha?


So what does he think about 999?



"RE: I'm guessing he doesn't read any long books."
Posted by Estee on 02-10-13 at 03:18 PM
I can read evil into any sentence in any religious work. All I need is a little under a second, plus an optional pen.

Thankee for the trackdown. This does call into question any 6:66 or 66:6 present in chapters...


"RE: I'm guessing he doesn't read any long books."
Posted by kidflash212 on 02-10-13 at 12:49 PM
Real easy to get condemned in his view, isn't it? Just accepting a piece of paper with a certain number on it is all it takes? Does anything associated with those three numbers together work?

The NFL & AFL announced their merger on 06/06/66 - does this mean watching professional football makes me a minion of Satan?

I once had a cold and a friend gave me some cold medicine called 666 - may as well stop trying to be a good person, I'm doomed anyway.


"RE: I'm guessing he doesn't read any long books."
Posted by Estee on 02-10-13 at 03:16 PM
I'm fairly certain that in his belief system, you were a minion going in. So am I. There's probably a mathematical formula expressing strength of religion vs. pettiness of offense required for damnation. I'll leave it as an exercise for someone's future thesis.

(Imagine if the number was part of Islam. There would be militant fundamentalists cutting out the tongues of anyone who'd learned to count.)

And oh, wouldn't I love to see someone declare football as anti-Christian in Texas...


"RE: I'm guessing he doesn't read any long books."
Posted by byoffer on 02-10-13 at 06:16 PM
I always stop when I get to page 1101100011011000110110.