And there will be more carnage after this ends, using this incident to justify all of it -- made by officers against other officers and officers against civilians. You see, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if any number from some to all of his accusations against the police department were true. Calling the LAPD a haven for powermongering racists is like calling the ocean a repository for water: all you're trying to do is see how big an understatement you can make. But the racists who are present will do everything they can against officers not of their hue in order to get rid of the next problem, keep going after citizens in case one of them might be considering grabbing a gun, and recruit more racists to join (plus plenty of fresh volunteers who think of it on their own) because now they know revolts can happen and the status quo must be maintained.

It would not surprise me if, as he said, he tried to do it through the system and the system was designed to make sure nothing would be done. But in the end, the blue line will loop into a circle -- and nothing will cross. Or change.

Understand: this doesn't mean I'm not hoping for the safety of those involved. What he's doing is hardly the way to alter things. I just don't think anything will work, period.

LAST EDITED ON 02-08-13 AT 11:11 AM (EST)

The first time I read the account of the incident that led to his firing I thought that he was right, and that the LAPD probably did screw him, and that much of the blame for recent events could be laid at the LAPD doorstep.

But then I read that there were three civilian witnesses that contradicted his account, that there had been an ongoing chain of conflicts between him and his training officer that seemed to be leading to his being disciplined or fired, that he brought the charge against his training officer two weeks after the incident in question, and that the training officer was due to turn in a progress report on him which he could have figured would be negative.

Those circumstances would cause me to doubt that his accusation was valid if I were on the evaluation board.

It seems to me that, in light of the impending negative progress report that he feared she would make, it's not unlikely that Dorner inflicted the injuries that he accused his training officer of in order to set her up.

In any case it’s scary and sad, and the screening tests should be improved to allow people with a propensity for these kinds of grudges (whether valid or not) to be filtered out of certain jobs.

I hate to go conspiracy theory, but it's in the LAPD's best interests to make themselves look as good as possible right now. I've seen them turn into a self-distorted source too many times to trust them on faith, much less evidence and records which they have free access to tamper with.

It's possible they're innocent here. It's also really hard to believe in.

I would suspect that there are plenty of incidents in the LAPD (and every other police force in the country) that could very easily be seen as problematic so there could be some basis for him to report someone for something.

I can also see that someone that is seen as all too likely to be pursuing a career in part to be the whistle-blower could be forced out over things that may not normally cause someone to be fired.

That this then cost him every single thing in his life, meant he could never, ever, ever have a wife and family, any career of any kind, and lost him all of his blood relatives and is the one true and only source of all that is wrong in his life and deserving of warfare and all that, is on him as...well if that was the normal result of not making it in the police forces, we wouldn't have any cops left as all the still employed ones would have been killed by the fired ones a long time ago.

I mean sure being a rent-a-cop for a mall or any of the bazillion other things people who didn't make it as cop do may not be the dream he had (and gee so many of them manage to find a spouse and procreate), but this does seem to be all out of proportion to anything they did to him vs what he did to himself (or mental illness or other untreated issues not serious enough to be called a mental illness did to him).

This? is not going to end well.

I'm not arguing that the mainspring has gone boing. I'm just wondering about the nature of the initial trigger. But it's very possible that he went into the system with the idea of cleaning it up from the inside. With his part to eventually be played by Matt Damon. With an exclamation point.

'Well' went off the boards three murders ago.

So far I haven't found any reports written at the time, which will still be biased, but won't be through any filters from the more recent events.

Even if they declare him innocent and he was in the right back a few years ago what really will happen. Isn't like they can hire him back, and even if he can get back wages (assuming he survives) legal fees are going to make short work of that.

The subsequent murders make reinstatement problematic.

And three eye witnesses would have to change their accounts of the earlier event to convince anyone that he was right then. \

And the two week delay? For a crusader whistleblower? His story is already tainted beyond redemption, IMO.

Just read an article that the LAPD has decided to reopen his disciplinary case. I'm hoping that is just internet misinformation. What kind of message does it send - killing people is the way to get what you want?

I read they were doing that as well, does seem odd.

On the other hand they may be opening it because it allows for active reinvestigation of things that they hope may end up being helpful in the current situation.

Or, it could be to try to shut up some of the people calling Dorner a hero and cheering him on and thinking the right thing to do is aid him in avoiding the cops so he can kill more of them.

have you read some of the comment sections

When we had the manhunt for that bomber up in the hills of NC there was a lot of concern about how much the locals seemed to see him as some kind of folk hero and were likely to aid him rather than call the cops to report on him.

LAST EDITED ON 02-10-13 AT 02:34 PM (EST)

"have you read some of the comment sections?"

I try to avoid it. It scares me to think I might be on the same subway car as some of the commenters.

Seriously, though, I would think reopening his case appears to give his lunacy some legitimacy. As if the LAPD is admitting it might have been wrong.

As said above, it's possible he was in fact ignored by The Racist Powers That Keep On Being. But given that it's the LAPD, I think it's more likely that they announced a reevaluation of the case in order to see if they could get him to come out. His manifesto is basically screaming that this keeps going until his NAME is cleared: if he feels it's happening -- or happens after the world's fastest not-review -- there's a tiny chance of surrender.

I have seen some of his support comments. As typical for the Internet, a number come from trolls. I don't doubt he has fans, though. Plenty of anti-government types would love to kill themselves a few officers, and the fringe wouldn't have a problem with targeting families.

Whether he has supporters out there willing to hide him and go down with him -- longer odds. It takes very little courage to proclaim your hate in type and a lot more to use it as armor against SWAT bullets. Outside of scripts, he'd need a network already in place or the kind of luck you normally have to write.

Now, if he can get an untraceable login and start looking for his backers... that's when it gets scarier.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/10/us/lapd-attacks/index.html

Reward for the arrest being offered. That's a lot of money, and I bet the hotlines are filled with crazies at the moment.

And the bounty hunters suspend their current four-and-five-figure operations and go for the seven-figure one.

Good luck with that. A 6'+, 270lb bald black man isn't going to blend too well in Mexico.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/12/16933842-ex-lapd-officer-accused-of-killings-thought-to-have-fled-to-mexico?lite

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