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"MSNBC wins "most biased" title"
Posted by AyaK on 01-07-13 at 03:59 AM
Source of this is a Pew Research Center study, which no one can accuse of pro-Republican bias. Turns out that MSNBC is even more biased than Fox News. Doesn't come as any surprise to anyone who has tried to watch MSNBC, because even though Fox News is bad, MSNBC is always worse.

http://www.journalism.org/analysis_report/winning_media_campaign_2012

The study also reveals the degree to which the two cable channels that have built themselves around ideological programming, MSNBC and Fox, stand out from other mainstream media outlets. And MSNBC stands out the most. On that channel, 71% of the segments studied about Romney were negative in nature, compared with just 3% that were positive-a ratio of roughly 23-to-1. On Fox, 46% of the segments about Obama were negative, compared with 6% that were positive-a ratio of about 8-to-1 negative. These made them unusual among channels or outlets that identified themselves as news organizations.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/tv/z-on-tv-blog/bal-pew-study-suggests-msnbc-really-is-more-partisan-than-fox-20121102,0,7266571.story

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"RE: MSNBC wins "most biased" title"
Posted by Max Headroom on 01-07-13 at 09:11 AM
*head tilt*

You're telling me Barack Obama isn't God? What a disappointment. Guess I shouldn't use MSNBC as my sole news source.

"RE: MSNBC wins "most biased" title"
Posted by AyaK on 01-07-13 at 10:36 AM
It looks more like you shouldn't use any mainstream media as a news source, including Fox and MSNBC, though it does appear that at least Romney received better treatment than McCain did:

http://www.journalism.org/analysis_report/coverage_candidates_media_sector_and_cable_outlet

CNN stood between MSNBC and Fox in its treatment of the two candidates but Obama fared markedly better than Romney and better than in the media generally.

On CNN, 18% of the stories about Obama were positive compared to 21% negative, a mixed narrative. In Romney's case, negative stories (36%) outnumbered positive (11%) by more than 3-to-1.

However, as with the press studied overall, if one removes horse-race stories from the equation, the tone of coverage of Obama and Romney becomes more comparable. In those stories not framed around the horse race, 13% were positive for Obama compared to 24% negative while 13% were positive for Romney compared to 30% negative.

"RE: MSNBC wins "most biased" title"
Posted by byoffer on 01-07-13 at 10:45 AM
So they treated Romney with kid gloves? (aka mittens!)


"RE: MSNBC wins "most biased" title"
Posted by cahaya on 01-07-13 at 10:51 AM
Tossing in one more log into the fireside chat...

Cable news remains relevant, but there is a surge in the use of the internet for campaign news.

http://www.journalism.org/commentary_backgrounder/social_media_doubles_remains_limited

Cable news channels continue to have the furthest reach, but a number of other destinations are close. Currently, 41% of Americans say they regularly learn about the candidates or the campaign from cable news networks, up five percentage points from 36% during the primaries.

But local TV news is almost as popular as a means for learning about the campaign; 38% of Americans regularly use it to learn about the candidates and the election, up six points since the primaries.

That is now nearly matched by the internet, which has seen an increase of 11 points in the number of Americans who say they regularly turn to it for campaign news since the year began. Fully 36% of Americans say they regularly get election news there, up from 25% in January. (2012)

And 12% got their information from late night comedy shows, no kidding.

"RE: MSNBC wins "most biased" title"
Posted by Estee on 01-07-13 at 11:01 AM
Don't believe a word of it. Anyone who watches knows that on FOX News, 0% of President stories are positive.

Are the actual nature of the actions covered considered, or just the slant on them?

"RE: MSNBC wins "most biased" title"
Posted by dabo on 01-07-13 at 01:18 PM
But Faux News is Fair Unbalanced.


"RE: MSNBC wins "most biased" title"
Posted by HobbsofMI on 01-07-13 at 02:26 PM
Tell us something we don't know.

Did they include just their "news" shows or did they include their "entertainment personalities"?


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"RE: MSNBC wins "most biased" title"
Posted by AyaK on 01-08-13 at 05:09 PM
According to the study, both the half-hour daytime news programs and nighttime "commentary" programs were used for the three cable networks:

http://www.journalism.org/analysis_report/methodology_26

Cable TV (Fifteen in all, Monday-Friday)

Daytime (2:00 to 2:30 pm) coded two out of three every weekday
CNN
Fox News
MSNBC

Nighttime CNN - coded one or two out of the four every day

Situation Room (5 pm)
Situation Room (6 pm)
Erin Burnett OutFront
Anderson Cooper 360

Nighttime Fox News - coded two out of the four every day
Special Report w/ Bret Baier
Fox Report w/ Shepard Smith
O'Reilly Factor
Hannity

Nighttime MSNBC - coded one or two out of the four every day
PoliticsNation
Hardball (7 pm)
The Rachel Maddow Show
The Ed Show

"RE: MSNBC wins "most biased" title"
Posted by Snidget on 01-08-13 at 07:14 PM
Did they adjust for/or measure amount of negative mentions based in, um, reality vs negative mentions based in conspiracy theory or alternative realities or truthiness?

And here I thought no one could bash Romney worse than Faux News during the early part of the primary season.

I wish they'd all just not let any of the conspiracy theorists on. Any of them. From any part of the political spectrum. Although, a moderate who is also a full blown conspiracy theorist might be amusing. It is the fault of the fence, the line down the middle of the road, THE ROAD I TELL YOU!!!

"RE: MSNBC wins "most biased" title"
Posted by Jims02 on 01-08-13 at 07:15 PM
LAST EDITED ON 01-08-13 AT 07:16 PM (EST)

Report: Terrible cable news network slightly more terrible than other terrible cable news network.


Feedback loops for everyone!

"RE: MSNBC wins "most biased" title"
Posted by AyaK on 01-09-13 at 10:54 AM
Yep, that about covers it.
"RE: MSNBC wins "most biased" title"
Posted by cahaya on 01-09-13 at 12:11 PM
Yup, as we cover the coverage of the coverage.

And the undercoverage.

"Libertarian v. Conservative"
Posted by AyaK on 01-09-13 at 11:00 AM
LAST EDITED ON 01-09-13 AT 11:01 AM (EST)

Might as well throw this one in here too. The story pretty much speaks for itself: U.Tenn law professor Glenn Reynolds, who has become a famous Republican blogger through his "Instapundit" web site, was disinvited from speaking at a Republican Lincoln Day dinner in Utah because of his support for gay marriage.

http://twitchy.com/2013/01/06/utah-gop-group-disinvites-glenn-reynolds-from-speech-because-of-reynolds-support-for-gay-rights/

As Reynolds notes in his initial hashtag, this "tepee"-like vision of who is a real Republican (thus eliminating libertarians) is severely at odds with conservative icon (and Log Cabin Republican supporter) Ronald Reagan's "big tent". But maybe a tepee is all the far right wants at this time. It's certainly all that the GOP deserves.

"And the Republican Main Street Partnership..."
Posted by cahaya on 01-09-13 at 12:21 PM
... drops "Republican" from its name.

The Republican Main Street Partnership, a Washington-based group that has promoted moderate GOP lawmakers and policies, will remove the word "Republican" from its title and welcome center-right Democrats in 2013, Yahoo News has learned.

The organization's board of directors voted Tuesday morning to scrap party identification from its title and be known simply as "The Main Street Partnership." The group's new president, former Ohio Republican Rep. Steven LaTourette, told Yahoo News that he plans to begin conversations with Blue Dog Democrats and centrist groups in the coming months.

"RE: And the Republican Main Street Partnership..."
Posted by AyaK on 01-10-13 at 02:30 AM
I hadn't wanted to bring this up, but Steve is an old friend with whom I'm about 98% in agreement on the issues. He managed to stay out of the limelight through most of his congressional term, but the Club for Growth ended up targeting him in 2011, which was one of the main reasons he decided to retire in 2012.

I wish him luck.