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"Sandy..."
Posted by cahaya on 10-25-12 at 09:17 AM
... could turn into the perfect storm in a week.

Fortunately for fooner, he'll be far away by the time it hits, with Tony chasing her tail.

Combined with a winter storm in the Northeast, it could evolve into the "perfect storm".

Trick or treat on Halloween?


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Messages in this discussion
"What do You Mean?"
Posted by foonermints on 10-25-12 at 10:49 AM
I live with Sandee!
I'm going to kick sand in the face of that 98lb weakling, "Tony". Gad, Italians! Always on the make..

Trick, of course!

"RE: What do You Mean?"
Posted by Tummy on 10-25-12 at 11:55 AM
Happy Halloween to the NE?
"RE: What do You Mean?"
Posted by jbug on 10-25-12 at 11:58 AM
When I saw the title of the thread, I thought you were telling us something she had done.



Scared by Agman in 2008

"Oh.."
Posted by foonermints on 10-25-12 at 01:18 PM
They think about a billion dollars of damage, but that's untrue.

That storm was called "Bonnie" Or "bitchiefat"

~thank you, povertymints

"RE: What do You Mean?"
Posted by kidflash212 on 10-27-12 at 09:30 AM
When I saw the title, the song from Grease popped into my head.

Damn earworm.

"RE: What do You Mean?"
Posted by Dakota on 10-29-12 at 02:07 AM
...better shape up, cause I need a man, and my heart is set on you...


Agman's Spring Fling '12

"RE: What do You Mean?"
Posted by kidflash212 on 10-29-12 at 10:34 PM
Actually the tune was Stranded at the Drive In where Danny moans about Sandy leaving him.
"No"
Posted by moonbaby on 10-25-12 at 01:51 PM
I refuse to see that "s" word.

NO.

"Isn't The Moon"
Posted by foonermints on 10-25-12 at 01:56 PM
A dusty place? Maybe it needs a rinse?
"RE: No"
Posted by CTgirl on 10-25-12 at 07:13 PM
Word!
"Ohhhhhhh..."
Posted by IceCat on 10-26-12 at 01:40 AM

... the weather outside is frightful,

But the fire is soooo delightful...

"RE: No"
Posted by Karchita on 10-26-12 at 12:11 PM
If it's a perfect storm, maybe George Clooney will show up.

And how can that be bad?


"RE: No"
Posted by Dakota on 10-29-12 at 02:13 AM
>If it's a perfect storm, maybe
>George Clooney will show up.
>
>
>And how can that be bad?

Well, because he dies.

I assume there's a statute of limitations on spoilers for non-reality tv

Agman's Spring Fling '12

"RE: No"
Posted by Brownroach on 10-27-12 at 00:53 AM
LAST EDITED ON 10-27-12 AT 00:56 AM (EST)

I can't stop imagining a giant, wind-machine-propelled, sopping-wet Olivia Newton-John passing overhead. But will she turn out to be Good Sandy ("hopelessly devoted to you") or Bad Sandy ("feel your way..." -- as she stamps out her cigarette all over us)?

"RE: No"
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 10-27-12 at 05:03 PM
"RE: No"
Posted by Estee on 10-27-12 at 05:09 PM
you're the one i don't want
"It's being dubbed"
Posted by zombiebaby on 10-25-12 at 04:48 PM
Frankenstorm!

I can't believe that there will really be snow though. Full moon! High

"Blood Rain over here"
Posted by Starshine on 10-25-12 at 06:00 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20028490

"RE: Blood Rain over here"
Posted by Tummy on 10-26-12 at 09:59 AM
Yuck.
"Big question mark"
Posted by cahaya on 10-26-12 at 01:16 AM
Doesn't the projected path kind of look like a big question mark?

This could be a very messy storm colliding with the Canadian air from the north.

"The new buzzword: Frankenstorm"
Posted by cahaya on 10-26-12 at 08:56 AM
... as the National Weather Service calls it.

Next? Foonerstorm!

"RE: The new buzzword: Frankenstorm"
Posted by CTgirl on 10-26-12 at 09:44 AM
I am hoping that Frankenstorm doesn't wreak as much havoc as Snowtober did last year!!


"RE: The new buzzword: Frankenstorm"
Posted by Round Robin on 10-27-12 at 00:27 AM
If what the weather experts are saying is the straight poop, Frankenstorm is going to make Snowtober look like a walk in the park.
"well crap"
Posted by moonbaby on 10-26-12 at 12:27 PM
Wind gusts to 75 mph? Heavy wet snow? Yeah, there's gonna be a whole lot of power outages.

Milk-check
Bread-check
TP-check
Water? Is a gallon enough?


"RE: well crap"
Posted by Snidget on 10-26-12 at 12:40 PM
How many days are you typically without power? Usually the recommend a gallon a day and usually say a 3 day supply should cover most issues.

If you are concerned the water supply may be off (rather than just you probably should boil it before drinking so bottled water is easier when you may not have power to cook with) then you may want to fill the bathtub to have water to flush the toilet with.

"Thanks"
Posted by moonbaby on 10-26-12 at 02:06 PM
another coupla gallons, then- just in case. Thinking of going to my sister's. Being freaked out is better when it's a group activity.
"RE: Thanks"
Posted by Sagebrush Dan on 10-26-12 at 02:21 PM
Hang in there, kiddo. Sending good thoughts your way.


Transcribed by Sharnina

"RE: Thanks"
Posted by moonbaby on 10-26-12 at 07:15 PM
Thanks Dan. If we concentrate maybe it will turn out to sea!
"RE: Thanks"
Posted by Snidget on 10-26-12 at 02:47 PM
Have fun with the Mass Hysteria!
"RE: Thanks"
Posted by CTgirl on 10-26-12 at 04:14 PM
Being freaked out is better when it's a group activity.

Especially if you bring wine!


"woo hoo!"
Posted by moonbaby on 10-26-12 at 07:14 PM
I like the way you think!
"aaaaaaAAAAAAAAAHHH!"
Posted by IceCat on 10-28-12 at 09:55 AM

... Freak OUT!
Le freak, c'est chic!
"Hurricane PSA"
Posted by IceCat on 10-28-12 at 09:58 AM

Remember folks,

In the even that high winds blow off the roof of your house, your disco lightshow floor can be used to signal passing rescue helicopters.

"RE: Hurricane PSA"
Posted by Dakota on 10-29-12 at 09:01 PM
Ok, I'll go get it. No, Ice, you just sit and relax. Got it.

Le Freak

Agman's Spring Fling '12

"tracker"
Posted by dabo on 10-26-12 at 04:48 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26295161/ns/weather/
"First effect...Expletives Depletion."
Posted by Snidget on 10-26-12 at 07:20 PM
WP blog

I’ll conclude with this note posted in the blog by AccuWeather senior Vice President Mike Smith:

A very prominent and respected National Weather Service meteorologist wrote on Facebook last night,

I’ve never seen anything like this and I’m at a loss for expletives to describe what this storm could do.



better stock up!

"RE: First effect...Expletives Depletion."
Posted by foonermints on 10-27-12 at 00:17 AM
I'll believe it when I hear it from the weathergirl.

"RE: First effect...Expletives Depletion."
Posted by Round Robin on 10-27-12 at 00:25 AM
If it's expletives he needs, the standard ones will do. Plain and simple, this storm is going to majorly f--- up basically the whole damn Northeast.
"RE: First effect...Expletives Depletion."
Posted by foonermints on 10-27-12 at 00:34 AM
Our doors are always open for a stayover peep-meet. Hee Ye to SoCal.
"RE: Sandy..."
Posted by Estee on 10-26-12 at 08:05 PM
I'm just glad Election Day is the Tuesday after this. I can't reach my polling area without going through at least one flood zone no matter how I approach it. Which makes those roads strong candidates for being shut down -- and that means I'd have to walk to the vote. If we were having the whole affair on the 30th, my emotional dedication to quasi-democracy would be going to war with my body's dedication to not dying. As-is, the process should be normal beyond the usual attempts from imports to scare everyone away from the front door.

Getting through the by-then-previous Tuesday -- potential challenge.

"RE: Sandy..."
Posted by foonermints on 10-26-12 at 10:25 PM
CTgirl ObamaChupacabra habla: No "Vote by Mail" in Nuevo Yorko?
It's a dangerous world..

"RE: Sandy..."
Posted by kidflash212 on 10-27-12 at 09:27 AM
Just better not mess with my cable service until after TAR Sunday night.
"Bread & Milk"
Posted by kidflash212 on 10-27-12 at 09:08 AM
LAST EDITED ON 10-27-12 AT 09:33 AM (EST)

What magical properties do bread & milk have that causes everyone to run out and clean out every supermarket whenever the news says a big storm is coming?

Went to my local Key Food and the bread and milk are just gone. Yogurt you can get. Frozen vegetables, macaroni & cheese, fresh fruit and canned goods in abundance but milk & bread are the staples everyone must have to survive a rainstorm.



Capn2patch put me in motion!

"RE: Bread & Milk"
Posted by Estee on 10-27-12 at 09:20 AM
Don't forget the toilet paper!

(Rumor has it there's a shortage.)

"RE: Bread & Milk"
Posted by kidflash212 on 10-27-12 at 09:23 AM
Whenever I see TP on sale, I usually stock up. I'm probably good through the inauguration.
"RE: Bread & Milk"
Posted by Snidget on 10-27-12 at 09:24 AM
Sour milk and moldy bread makes the snow melt?

"RE: Bread & Milk"
Posted by kidflash212 on 10-27-12 at 09:26 AM
Or maybe eating it has hallucinogenic effects and you just think there is no snow.
"RE: Bread & Milk"
Posted by Karchita on 10-27-12 at 01:02 PM
I believe bread and milk may have magical properties for shutting up children, a first priority need for all hurricane-type situations.

Although when I lived in Hawaii and we had a hurricane hurrying our way, the line at the corner store snaked around the block and each person in that line had a twelve pack of beer under each arm. Quite a sight. These were hurricane pros.


"RE: Bread & Milk"
Posted by kidflash212 on 10-27-12 at 01:10 PM
Pros?

Pros would have tequila.

"RE: Bread & Milk"
Posted by Snidget on 10-27-12 at 01:17 PM
I thought Hurricanes were made with rum?



"RE: Bread & Milk"
Posted by kidflash212 on 10-27-12 at 01:31 PM
But tequila goes better with Sandies

"RE: Bread & Milk"
Posted by Dakota on 10-29-12 at 08:57 PM
We have drinks and snacks and we need some music. Yea, it's a little country, but it has Margaritas and oobies.


...the rain won't leave and the pain won't ease and the sun don't wanna shine....
Long Way to Go

Agman's Spring Fling '12

"Downgrade, upgrade."
Posted by Estee on 10-27-12 at 02:04 PM
Brought down to a tropical storm.

Reclassified as a hurricane.

Next up, it grabs a Halloween mask and pretends to be a light breeze.

"RE: Downgrade, upgrade."
Posted by Max Headroom on 10-27-12 at 08:58 PM
And here I thought it was a nor'easter all along. Shows what this Midwesterner knows.
"Weather Tutorial"
Posted by Snidget on 10-28-12 at 07:13 PM

Warm core, start in tropical water, run up the east coast, destroy beaches, gale force wind, storm surge, drop lots of precipitation: hurricane.

Cold core, usually start in/near the US comes across then turns north, run up the east coast, destroy beaches, gale force wind, storm surge, drop lots of precipitation: Nor'easter.

Basically Hurricane season is June - November and Nor'easter season is October - April.

This one started as a hurricane south of Jamaica, but is supposed to morph into a nor'easter when the cold front hits it and switches it from a warm core rain dropping system to a cold core snow dropping one.

Hurricanes don't make it snow in the NC mountains. So when it starts snowing in Boone, you'll know it morphed.

"RE: Downgrade, upgrade."
Posted by foonermints on 10-27-12 at 09:04 PM
I'm still watching rhe weathergirl.
"Supersize it!"
Posted by cahaya on 10-28-12 at 11:18 AM
"I am a bad mom or a really good one"
Posted by VisionQuest on 10-28-12 at 01:11 AM
Last year on Halloween, there was a bad storm at my daughters college that took out power for days. Parents bitched that there were no notifications letting them know how the campus was taking care of their kids. Yesterday, I received an email from the college stating that they were prepared for Sandy and had the plan for taking care of our adult children and updating us on how they were doing.

I immediately texted my daughter that the storm was coming and she better buy some booze. She told me that she was getting ready by making sangria and jello shots. Good kid.

"Not 'good'... not 'bad'"
Posted by IceCat on 10-28-12 at 10:00 AM

... 'awesome' would be better.
"That was you?"
Posted by DearAbby on 10-29-12 at 06:58 PM
"Just curious."
Posted by Estee on 10-28-12 at 06:25 AM
Have any major religious figures decided what the United States is being punished for yet?
"Just so's yah know"
Posted by IceCat on 10-28-12 at 10:15 AM

Riyadh is getting kuh-slammed right now with a wicked lightning/thunder/wind/rain/sand storm right now.

Some full-on freaky spaghetti-monster armageddon action goin on out there right now ah tell you whut!

"On cue.."
Posted by Estee on 10-29-12 at 06:21 PM
Gotta give the Religious Reich this: they never keep you waiting.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/anti-gay-preacher-blames-hurricane-sandy-on-homosexuality-and-same-sex-marriage/

"RE: On cue.."
Posted by Snidget on 10-29-12 at 07:11 PM
For some reason your link isn't opening for me.

Is it the same one as this math genius?

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/10/29/anti-lgbt-pastor-blames-hurricane-sandy-on-the-homosexual-agenda/

"RE: On cue.."
Posted by Estee on 11-02-12 at 08:06 AM
'tis. Remember, kids, when picking a faith, always look for a deity who hates the same people you do.
"RE: Just curious."
Posted by Bebo on 10-30-12 at 05:17 PM
>Have any major religious figures decided what the United States is
being punished for yet?

No, but Rush Limbaugh has already made his view known. The weather gods are helping out Obama, and no matter what the president does/doesn't do, the press will spin it to make Obama look good.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1012/83019.html

“ they have time they’re gonna try to massage it and figure out a way they can make it look good for Obama. Which is juvenile, infantile, sad and disappointing because this storm is going to affect everybody,” Limbaugh said on his radio program, according to a show transcript. “And there isn’t anything political about it until people try to make it political.”

Hmmm...there isn't anything political about it until people try to make it political. Pot, meet kettle (especially the juvenile, infantile, sad and disappointing part).

"It gets better/worse."
Posted by Estee on 11-02-12 at 08:00 AM
He's now accusing Governor Christie of 'man love' for the President after our local man in supposed charge committed the ultimate sin: cooperation with a Democrat. Because a true Republican would have let every Sandy-injured party die, up to the whole of his own state, rather than work with the other side to make sure help arrived.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/11/01/limbaugh-says-gov-christie-has-man-love-for-obama/

So here's the new GOP blacklisting: thank the President and you're gay.


"Guy love"
Posted by Bebo on 11-02-12 at 12:41 PM
It's guy love between two guys...

http://youtu.be/lL4L4Uv5rf0

"On the bright side..."
Posted by Estee on 10-28-12 at 11:53 AM
...this should knock Cannibal Cop off the front page.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hQBrpSfq0koMCmIjpmvlfHcP4Tdg?docId=77d0ff5649ff4c41bea5b926c329e57b

Other than awaiting the inevitable and sickening Law & Order ripoff, I'm not sure what to make of this one. I was aware of 'vore' as one of the darker fetishes (anything you can't real-life survive), but also knew it was, for 99.9999% of those involved in that community, purely fantasy which they'd never take further. Was this one just playing around online and giving his imagination a spin outside? That will be the court case: dreaming vs. planning. And the vore community will take the brunt either way.

But meanwhile, you have this.

http://www.medicaldaily.com/articles/12905/20121026/sweeney-todd-brazilian-cannibal-gang-killed-stuffed.htm

And for this, there is no punishment harsh enough.


"Gouging is the only law he knows."
Posted by Estee on 10-28-12 at 04:30 PM
So Mayor Michael 'I Could Have Bought This Storm Off And Chose Not To' Bloomberg has ordered the mandatory evacuation of Zone A -- the low-lying areas close to the shorelines. And in order to assist in getting people out of those areas, he has also ordered that mass transit be shut down about two and a half hours from now.

Which means many of the people in those areas will be unable to leave by their standard route.

I'm sure taxi fares won't go up more than five thousand percent.

Free city shelters: now only $500 a night! Bring your pets!

"RE: Gouging is the only law he knows."
Posted by foonermints on 10-28-12 at 06:24 PM

»Free city shelters: now only $500 a night! Bring your pets!«

But does it come with ringworm?*


Handcrafted by RollDdice
*and the flu - can't forget the flu- plus crazies and the occaisonal street stinko. Love them stinkos.

"Jim Cantore's belongings were evacuated."
Posted by Snidget on 10-28-12 at 05:38 PM
That can't be good.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20121028/us-superstorm-media/

"Make it to midnight."
Posted by Estee on 10-29-12 at 07:59 AM
Locally, the winds are supposed to start gradually dying down after that (although the rain will continue for another day or so). If the area can maintain safety and power until that point, we're probably okay.

Right now, it's just a standard-if-slightly-loud morning rain. That won't last.

"RE: Sandy..."
Posted by Max Headroom on 10-29-12 at 08:26 AM
It's dry here this morning. How 'bout you?

"RE: Sandy..."
Posted by Estee on 10-29-12 at 08:38 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yP1tcy9a10
"RE: Sandy..."
Posted by Karchita on 10-29-12 at 08:28 PM
Nice blue skies and 60 degrees here in Seattle.

It's a bit breezy, though.


"HMS Bounty"
Posted by Snidget on 10-29-12 at 09:02 AM
We may have the first movie of the storm.

http://www.wral.com/coast-guard-responds-to-ship-in-distress-from-hurricane-sandy/11712779/

They have abandoned ship and there is an attempted helicopter rescue going on.

"RE: HMS Bounty"
Posted by AyaK on 10-29-12 at 10:26 AM
They only rescued 14 of 16. Still trying to find the last 2.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/29/us/sandy-bounty-ship/index.html

"RE: HMS Bounty"
Posted by Snidget on 10-29-12 at 10:38 AM
*frets*

Hopefully they will find them soon.

"RE: HMS Bounty"
Posted by Bebo on 10-30-12 at 05:02 PM
One of the missing was found, but she died. They're still searching for the captain. Since the water temperature is 77 degrees and he was wearing a survival suit, they're still holding out hope.

"RE: HMS Bounty"
Posted by Bebo on 11-01-12 at 11:04 PM
The search for the missing captain has been called off.


"...and make a hard left."
Posted by Estee on 10-29-12 at 09:43 AM
Apparently this is the first time in the history of storm tracking that a hurricane's ever done this. Instead of tracking south to north with a veer out towards the ocean, this one's decided to tour the Adirondacks and turned directly inland.

Trick or treat.

"boink?"
Posted by jbug on 10-29-12 at 09:58 AM
trick or treat!
"Today's Estee sighting."
Posted by Max Headroom on 10-29-12 at 10:08 AM
"RE: Today's Estee sighting."
Posted by Estee on 10-29-12 at 10:14 AM
...no.

Just -- no.

I'm sitting in the barrel of a gun and he's pouring in extra powder.

"RE: Today's Estee sighting."
Posted by Snidget on 10-29-12 at 10:26 AM
Shall we send Max to wipe the rain off the Statue of Liberty Live Cam

http://www.earthcam.com/usa/newyork/statueofliberty/?cam=liberty_hd (you can hear the wind)

"RE: Today's Estee sighting."
Posted by cahaya on 10-29-12 at 02:16 PM
LAST EDITED ON 10-29-12 AT 02:18 PM (EST)

It's kind of hypnotizing...

Raindrops keep hitting the lens, only to be blown off by the strong wind with more raindrops taking their place, in a random pattern all over the lens' field.

It looks mighty dark there in the middle of the day.

(eta) And look past the raindrops and you can see how turbulent the waters are down below.

"RE: Today's Estee sighting."
Posted by byoffer on 10-29-12 at 01:39 PM
*snort*

Max wins post-of-the-day.

"and...."
Posted by jbug on 10-29-12 at 04:05 PM
he didn't claim the swoop or swoop block!
"RE: and...."
Posted by byoffer on 10-29-12 at 10:12 PM
I guess he doesn't stoop and swoop. Bad dog walker Max!
"RE: Today's Estee sighting."
Posted by Karchita on 10-29-12 at 08:29 PM
Word.

Now, Estee, please get out of the weather and I can stop fretting over you.


"Sandy intensifies..."
Posted by cahaya on 10-29-12 at 10:54 AM
LAST EDITED ON 10-29-12 AT 10:55 AM (EST)

etf brackets

CNN report from National Hurricane Center:

{Update 10:42 a.m. ET} Hurricane Sandy intensified on Monday morning, the National Hurricane Center said. Maximum sustained winds have increased to 90 mph with gusts to 115 mph.

"RE: Sandy..."
Posted by Puffy on 10-29-12 at 11:09 AM
Is this the thread where I tell you that we had a 3.9 earthquake yesterday, centered over my house?

"RE: Sandy..."
Posted by Snidget on 10-29-12 at 11:15 AM
Hmmmm...the earth moved?

"RE: Sandy..."
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 10-29-12 at 02:06 PM
We had a 7.7 out on the B.C. coast.
"RE: Sandy..."
Posted by bystander on 10-29-12 at 12:33 PM
Anyone have an Ark?


Wish I had a generator for the beer fridge.

"RE: Sandy..."
Posted by agman on 10-29-12 at 12:51 PM
I hate to admit this, but I forgot where you live!


If you give me some beer, I'll be happy to build you an ark. I'll have fooner supervise for quality control!!!

"RE: Sandy..."
Posted by byoffer on 10-29-12 at 01:37 PM
<Frankenstein voice>He's alive!!</voice>

I hope that my by-bro will be safely hunkered down in Baltimore.

"RE: Sandy..."
Posted by bystander on 10-29-12 at 01:40 PM
...or thereabouts


Now what exactly is this OT place??

"RE: Sandy..."
Posted by byoffer on 10-29-12 at 03:35 PM
What brings you back into OT? Is your office shut down because of Sandy? Should we call your return more collateral damage from the storm??
"Ironically"
Posted by Snidget on 10-29-12 at 10:38 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/29/russell-crowe-noah-sandy_n_2041229.html

"As previously reported, a massive replica of Noah's ark was built for "Noah" in Oyster Bay, New York. The city, located on the North Shore of Long Island, has already experienced wind gusts of nearly 70 miles per hour, per the Los Angeles Times. "

"Wedge Antilles (Red 2)"
Posted by cahaya on 10-29-12 at 02:34 PM
Look at the size of that thing!

"RE: Wedge Antilles (Red 2)"
Posted by agman on 10-29-12 at 03:32 PM
>Look at the size of that
thing!


That's what she said!!!


All kidding aside, that is just massive!


"Yah"
Posted by foonermints on 10-29-12 at 05:55 PM
So can Snidget help me write a grant so I can get some "Global Warming Money" out of this thing?


Moves by CrabMan

"Surge begins."
Posted by Estee on 10-29-12 at 06:27 PM
The wind speed is starting a major upswing: we're about twenty MPH away from powered (uncontrolled, fatal) flight. I haven't seen the heavier bands of rain locally, but buildings are starting to shake.

Several flooded areas in the southern part of the state. New York has major trouble zones and one partial crane collapse on W57th which is giving people fits. Just about all bridges are closed or will be by seven. No local fatalities so far.

Power has mostly maintained: flickers, but not blackouts. I don't expect this to continue: the power lines have learned to samba.

Some idiots tried to go into the surf and ride the resulting waves. They were rescued. And fined.

"RE: Surge begins."
Posted by kidflash212 on 10-29-12 at 07:58 PM
Just got a phone call from Con Ed telling me to expect the power to be shut off. Haven't seen much rain where I am in Queens, just a little windy.
"RE: Surge begins."
Posted by kidflash212 on 10-29-12 at 10:42 PM
Electricity might be about to go, been flickering quite a bit
"RE: Surge begins."
Posted by Brownroach on 10-29-12 at 11:31 PM
I've had a couple of flickers too. Hope we don't lose power.

Likewise on the rain where I am in Brooklyn, it's been very light. Just lots and lots of wind.

"Sandy seems to have disturbed some others..."
Posted by kidflash212 on 10-29-12 at 08:10 PM
"RE: Sandy seems to have disturbed some others..."
Posted by Snidget on 10-29-12 at 08:20 PM
What? King Kong didn't want to get his fur wet?
"RE: Sandy seems to have disturbed some others..."
Posted by Dakota on 10-29-12 at 08:45 PM
LaGuardia is flooded, lower Manhattan is flooded. Kid, are you hanging out in Times Square? Looks ok in Midtown. The Brooklyn-Battery tunnel is flooded. The front of a building blew off. A guy got killed when a tree fell on his building.

Prayer for you all in the path of this monster. Take care of yourselves, each other and any stray animals. Thank you.


Agman's Spring Fling '12

"RE: Sandy seems to have disturbed some others..."
Posted by kidflash212 on 10-29-12 at 10:31 PM
Times Square? No. Bars would be no fun tonight - go-go boys in raincoats and boots wouldn't be very interesting.

I'm staying home in Kew Gardens, Queens. Nothing much exciting happens out here.

"RE: Sandy..."
Posted by Puffy on 10-29-12 at 09:01 PM
LAST EDITED ON 10-29-12 AT 09:02 PM (EST)

Late night shows will be aired with no audience.



I waddle for Agman

"RE: Sandy..."
Posted by dabo on 10-29-12 at 09:11 PM
CBS is rerunning season premiere night, so no one is missing anything much.
Q1
49ers 7
Cardinals 0
"RE: Sandy..."
Posted by dabo on 10-29-12 at 09:15 PM
LAST EDITED ON 10-29-12 AT 09:16 PM (EST)

http://espn.go.com/nfl/playbyplay?&gameId=321029022&period=1&refresh=30

"RE: Sandy..."
Posted by dabo on 10-29-12 at 10:09 PM
Q2
49ers 17
Cardinals 0
"RE: Sandy..."
Posted by dabo on 10-29-12 at 10:54 PM
LAST EDITED ON 10-29-12 AT 11:51 PM (EST)

Q3
49ers 24
Cardinals 3

and Q4 was scoreless, that's how it ended.

"RE: Sandy..."
Posted by foonermints on 10-29-12 at 09:59 PM
Giants fans in San Francisco set fire to a bus.
"RE: Sandy..."
Posted by foonermints on 10-29-12 at 09:11 PM
The giant crane looks bad.
"RE: Sandy..."
Posted by kidflash212 on 10-29-12 at 10:27 PM
LAST EDITED ON 10-29-12 AT 10:41 PM (EST)

My 85 year old aunt lives in an apartment on 56th St between 8th and 7th Ave while the giant crane collapse is on 57th between 5th and 6th. Called her to see if everything was okay and she rushed me off the phone because she was speaking with a tech at Dell who was helping her set up her new computer. She figured she was stuck inside so she might as well do something constructive. Tough broad.

"RE: Sandy..."
Posted by Snidget on 10-29-12 at 10:46 PM
You go Auntie Kidflash!!!
"Con Ed blows up"
Posted by cahaya on 10-30-12 at 02:18 AM
LAST EDITED ON 10-30-12 AT 02:29 AM (EST)

Video here, skip to about the 3:00 minute mark. A small explosion is followed by a much bigger one.

(eta) That may be the last we hear of the folks in NYC for a while with the power outages and telecoms infrastructure partially down.

"RE: Con Ed blows up"
Posted by Brownroach on 10-30-12 at 07:17 AM
It seems those explosions affected only Manhattan, albeit a large chunk of it. I'm hearing power loss below 39th Street. Still experiencing high winds in Brooklyn but no power problems where I am.
"Live Wind Map"
Posted by Snidget on 10-30-12 at 07:06 AM
http://hint.fm/wind/
"RE: Live Wind Map"
Posted by cahaya on 10-30-12 at 09:30 AM
Cool map, literally, with the Canadian air blowing through here in the Hoosier state at a steady 25-30 miles per hour, a thousand miles from NYC.

It looks like the center of the storm is now halfway between NYC and Columbus, Ohio. It hasn't turned north yet, crawling westward instead.

"RE: Live Wind Map"
Posted by jbug on 10-30-12 at 09:32 AM
that is so kewl!
It's mesmerizing.
"RE: Sandy..."
Posted by Brownroach on 10-30-12 at 07:24 AM
MTA head says the entire subway system is in bad shape. Could take a week to get it operational.
"RE: Sandy..."
Posted by kidflash212 on 10-30-12 at 10:24 AM
A week without subway service. This should be interesting. The pictures of the midtown tunnel being flooded looked bad, too.

Kew Gardens seems mostly unscathed, lots of leaves and small twigs but no uprooted trees.

"RE: Sandy..."
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 10-30-12 at 11:17 AM
Glad to see that you're in good shape and on here ... was just seeing on CNN about the 80+ houses destroyed by fire in Queens, and hoped you weren't anywhere near that mess.
"RE: Sandy..."
Posted by kidflash212 on 10-30-12 at 11:26 AM
Looks like that happened over in the Rockaways. By the water. Kew Gardens is farther inland.
"RE: Sandy..."
Posted by Karchita on 10-30-12 at 01:56 PM
I was thinking about you, too. Sometimes it's a good thing to live where nothing ever happens.


"RE: Sandy..."
Posted by foonermints on 10-30-12 at 09:33 PM
Except for that time The Space Needle fell over.
"RE: Sandy..."
Posted by Puffy on 10-30-12 at 01:15 PM
And you got another earthquake early this morning...6.2! Were there damages from either quake?

"Estee?"
Posted by kidflash212 on 10-30-12 at 01:53 PM
Hoping she posts soon and is okay.
"RE: Estee?"
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 10-30-12 at 02:25 PM
Ditto for Moonie.

NJ seems to have been particularly hard-hit and Estee's home area isn't too far inland from the shore. Let's just hope that both Estee and Moonie are dealing with nothing more than some power loss and waiting for it to come back on.

"RE: Estee?"
Posted by Tummy on 10-30-12 at 04:36 PM
Let's just hope that both Estee and Moonie are dealing with nothing more than some power loss and waiting for it to come back on.


Ditto!

"Report from PA"
Posted by Bebo on 10-30-12 at 05:10 PM
My nephew is a senior at Lehigh. The school is out of power with a number of downed trees, and they are expecting the power outage to last for quite a while. School officials have already cancelled classes for the rest of the week. They're encouraging students who can go home safely now to do so.

Since nephew is from NC like me, he's going to head down to DC and hang out with some cousins who have a generator. A bunch of his friends offered him a place to stay, but he figured it would be best to head south.

"Cabin Fever"
Posted by Brownroach on 10-30-12 at 08:52 PM
Taking a tour around the 'hood this afternoon, it was amusing to see that every single coffee shop, diner, restaurant and bar was slammed -- and I mean SLAMMED -- with customers. When unable to get to work, NYers simply will not remain cooped up indoors.
"RE: Cabin Fever"
Posted by Snidget on 10-30-12 at 08:57 PM
We don't stay cooped up down here, just we don't go indoors somewhere else.

Everyone pulls out the chain saws to drop trees and branches on anything the storm didn't.

"RE: Cabin Fever"
Posted by Brownroach on 10-31-12 at 00:21 AM
LAST EDITED ON 10-31-12 AT 00:26 AM (EST)

Well that's constructive at least. Or de-structive?

I figure everyone should want to stay home and consume all the bread and soup and milk and other supplies they unnecessarily blew their paychecks on. But no, spending even more money on going out to eat and drink seemed to be everyone's first concern.

"Another town on fire, NJ"
Posted by Snidget on 10-31-12 at 06:54 AM
First that area in Queens, now a coastal town in NJ.

http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Fire-breaks-out-in-storm-damaged-NJ-town-3995839.php

"Unhurt."
Posted by Estee on 10-31-12 at 01:42 PM
I'm going to be really broke for a while, but physically, I'm fine.

No car, no public transit, and no communications: by the time I was out of the blackout zone, the zone closed.

"RE: Unhurt."
Posted by byoffer on 10-31-12 at 02:00 PM
I am really glad to hear that you were unhurt.

What sort of financial loss did you suffer? Did you have a car that is now toast? I can't imagine the number of cars that will be written off because of Sandy. Will insurance cover that sort of damage?

This place was really eerie without you. Dare I say - *hugs*??

"RE: Unhurt."
Posted by Estee on 10-31-12 at 02:19 PM
Vehicle is down (crisped, but not toasty) and repair may cost more than replacement, so that's a question of what the insurance company will say. I lost some possessions (various costs to replace, nothing personally precious, but some vitals) and I'm not going to get more than a penny on the dollar there, so rebuilding to prior will drain me. Damage to the apartment itself is the problem of the building owner -- who, to all due credit, is already on it. I can stay at home for the duration, although I have other offers on the table now that it's possible for people to reach me again. I was just about the last in the circle to rejoin the network and the final member begged a phone charge a few minutes ago.

I've been looking at footage of the lost shore towns. I got off easy. Seaside Heights is, for lack of a better word, gone...

"RE: Unhurt."
Posted by frodis on 10-31-12 at 02:32 PM
I'm glad you're not hurt, Estee, and very sorry for your losses and what you must have been going through in the storm and aftermath.

Let us know if you need help.

"RE: Unhurt."
Posted by jbug on 10-31-12 at 02:43 PM
We are so glad you checked in!
and yes, we missed you

Were you at home during the storm? or did you evacuate?

so sorry for your losses. {{hugs}}

"RE: Unhurt."
Posted by Estee on 10-31-12 at 02:58 PM
The important thing now is to hear from Moonbaby and the rest of those up and down the coast.

I stayed home. I'm not on one of the barrier islands (and if I had been, things would be a lot worse right now), so decided to stick it out and serve as a one-person local looting prevention squad. (I understand there was some looting around Coney Island, but that may have been it.) I lost power around nine last night and got it back about ten minutes after walking in the door shortly past noon today. My area never really got the rain -- I don't think we ever got to a moderate downpour level -- but we did get at least some of the wind, and it knocked out a few trees and fences. Which in turn did their own damage... But all things considered, my losses are relatively minor.

*looks at shore helicopter footage again*

Really minor.

"RE: Unhurt."
Posted by frodis on 10-31-12 at 03:02 PM
Moonie checked in a few hours ago on Facebook. She is okay, no power, no cell, etc. but also unhurt.

"RE: Unhurt."
Posted by Estee on 10-31-12 at 03:20 PM
*exhales* One more down.
"RE: Unhurt."
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 10-31-12 at 02:56 PM
Good to have you back in one shape! Sorry about the damage and the loss of vehicle, but hopefully the insurance will come through better than expected and you'll quickly be back to normal.

Did you feel spooked or feel in immediate danger physically at any time?

"RE: Unhurt."
Posted by Estee on 10-31-12 at 03:13 PM
Would you believe I slept through my own danger zone? It's my own fault -- I knew I was going to have trouble sleeping with the winds starting to howl outside, so I built up a pillow & blanket nest as far away from any windows as possible. And then -- here's the retrospect idiot part -- I put in earplugs. They worked so well that I remained unconscious all the way through the worst part of the damage. (I was also in a place where the wind wasn't going to hit me, especially not with closed doors airlocking the place. Snooze on, oblivious...) Applause may be in order. Or at least people screaming at me in rhythm and harmony, which has been going on for a good part of the day.

It was a bit of a shock when I woke up and opened the bedroom door to get some fresh clothing.

I never really felt like I was in any major danger, but that was in part because I wasn't in a position where I could do anything about it. By the time the real part of the storm hit, my options were down to 'lie down and think of England'. Resignation: I decided to make a stand here and all other avenues are very literally closed, so good luck me.

The hardest bit was arguably trying to get in touch with people. Couldn't drive, no mass transit available, couldn't walk out of the blackout zone, could barely get a cell call through because there were (and still are) multiple towers out, and nearly everyone else in the same boat. The property owner came around of their own free will, but while it was welcome to get that going immediately, still wasn't the person I wanted to see most and first... Not knowing how everyone else was worried me more than anything in my personal vicinity.

But on the plus side, I couldn't play Monopoly codes for a couple of days, so Moley's got some coming.

"RE: Unhurt."
Posted by kidflash212 on 10-31-12 at 03:44 PM
BIG SMOOCH

Glad you're safe.

It's even worth the big punch I'm going to get for the big smooch.

"RE: Unhurt."
Posted by Capn2patch on 10-31-12 at 04:08 PM
Driving by and happy to hear peeps checking in and ok from the aftermath of Sandy
"RE: Unhurt."
Posted by Molaholic on 10-31-12 at 04:23 PM
Another "Glad to hear you're OK" message here. I have a cousin living in CT, haven't heard from him, but from what I've seen he was probably fairly clear of most the nasty.
"RE: Unhurt."
Posted by Max Headroom on 10-31-12 at 04:31 PM
Glad to hear you made it through in one piece.
"RE: Unhurt."
Posted by Karchita on 10-31-12 at 05:14 PM
Very glad to hear from you, Estee. Sorry about all your financial hits.

Go ahead and hate me, but ((hugs)) and .


"I stocked up for this?"
Posted by Snidget on 10-31-12 at 06:35 PM
What am I going to do with all the snacks and drinks I stockpiled for the epic tale of Estee vs Sandy?

Two sentences! TWO! Oh and don't think that filling in a few details downthread counts! Nor does throwing a bunch of punctuation into those sentences!!!

*grumbles*

If the earplug maker hears your story they better pay you for the rights to make an ad from it.

So glad you are OK and {{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}

"RE: I stocked up for this?"
Posted by kingfish on 10-31-12 at 06:49 PM
I was anticipating the story of Estee and the looters.

Which may still playout.

"RE: Unhurt."
Posted by Brownroach on 10-31-12 at 11:06 PM
Glad you are okay, somehow had no doubt you would be... but good to know for sure. If you need help w/ anything I have lots of free time.
"RE: Unhurt."
Posted by samboohoo on 11-01-12 at 09:41 AM
Glad you checked in. I'm sorry for your losses. From your posts I am trying to gather what happened. Did the storm take out your car? It didn't catch fire, did it? And what about your apartment? Is there a hole in it or did windows get broken?


Samboobree, brought to life by Arkie


"RE: Unhurt."
Posted by Estee on 11-01-12 at 10:22 AM
The car did not catch fire, and would have looked slightly less silly if it had. Y'know those sections of fence that blew loose? They had to land somewhere. Like the passenger seat. And windshield. Radiator. Hood. And when that kind of mass is moving at speed, the result is a particularly unsellable piece of modern sculpture: Rolling Pincushion. With very large pins. Multiple versions currently flooding the very flooded market. Several vehicles in the lot took varying amounts of damage: mine was one of what I'm guessing as five likely totaled. There were at least another dozen with grazes, more with some moderate impacts... The moral of the story: modular fencing? Demodulates.

The main window in the bedroom blew out. (I did not put wood over it. I'm on the top floor and there is no balcony outside. Unless a radioactive spider comes along, my outdoor carpentry prospects are low.) Everything else blew in. And in some cases, out. That corner exposure which makes the apartment lose heat so quickly in the winter basically left me hanging out to not-dry.

So moderate water damage to the room -- but virtually all clothing not put away (and I was doing laundry when the blackout hit, leaving a lot scattered on the bed) went bye-bye and that's not a moderate expense, other pieces were just ruined, sheets gone and gawds only know where they landed (and for that matter, I'd love to know where the clothing landed and what's being done with it), mattress and bed took a lot of brunt including that from incoming crud (did I mention there was some sewage outpour that got picked up by the wind? I didn't? That's because I only stopped gagging yesterday) and I'm pretty sure the mattress is a loss so there goes some more money with it, headboard got splinter-cracked, mirror's broken (and took out part of the headboard), the electronics in the room -- they were dried out, tested, and in three cases (two expensive), junked, then we throw in the personal effects which were in there and exposed, and I'm going to stop here because I already had to write all this down once and once was enough. It adds up in a hurry.

So right now, there's a big heavy plastic sheet over the place where the window used to be. I've been itemizing, cleaning what I could, putting another sheet over the bedroom door, and finding out what can be salvaged. It is not a pleasant process, but -- I repeat: I got off easy. I've seen the footage from the shore towns. I have something which can be repaired and my lost items can be replaced.

I have successfully arranged transport for the weekend, so I can start searching for those replacements. I'm told the window will be fixed by next Wednesday. (Several apartments took varying levels of damage. Mine is not the worst.) Electronics shouldn't be too hard. The bed's going to be a pain. Clothing will take forever.

But don't worry. After all, I totally deserved this. I must have deserved it because it happened. And we all know this only happened because the local Christian deity was punishing me, right?

"RE: Unhurt."
Posted by samboohoo on 11-01-12 at 12:42 PM
Wow. I'm glad you're okay. And while it sucks and is an inconvenience, I'm glad you can recover.

Re: The bed. I can vouch from personal experience that an air mattress will serve for a while if you need that. You may have to add air every couple of weeks, but it works, and it's inexpensive.


Samboobree, brought to life by Arkie


"Thanking TPTB"
Posted by moonbaby on 11-03-12 at 03:02 PM
that you were not in the bedroom when the sh!t hit the fan!
"RE: Thanking TPTB"
Posted by Estee on 11-04-12 at 08:15 PM
It was the one piece of advice I followed: a news broadcast strongly suggested not sleeping near any windows. Judging by the damage spread, I probably wouldn't have been hurt and might have been able to save some items. But...

...yeah, 'but' is a very major word there.

"North Shore check in"
Posted by zombiebaby on 11-01-12 at 11:30 AM
Just got power back early this morning after losing it around 3 on Monday. Cell phone service has been so spotty, able to connect then not see if it did. Virtually cut off from all information the past 4 days. Still have bad cell service. Gas shortages have hit. Huge lines at the few stations that have some left.

We got lucky, no structual damage to home or property. Huge trees all around us down and across streets. I live about 2 miles from the north shore of Long Island. My town was flooded, boats lost/sank, stores unopened. There was a 12 foot storm surge at high tide. What saved us from the flooding is that the north shore has cliffs and hills and we are up a bit from the harbor but many towns are down on the harbor. Not sure if the ferry is running to Connecticut yet.

It's nice to get information again finally but the info I am getting is devastating. South Shore is heartbreaking. Fire Island is destroyed, Breezy Point gone, Mastic is battling oil spills. My one friend's town in Babylon has been condemned. I have heard that Long Island's topography has changed. I don't know if everything I am hearing is true because we have been cut off. Is Montauk it's own island now?


"RE: North Shore check in"
Posted by Brownroach on 11-01-12 at 11:43 AM
Glad you got your power back and that everything else was okay, zombs. Now we just need to hear from moonie.

As far as I'm aware Montauk is still attached to Long Island.

"RE: North Shore check in"
Posted by Estee on 11-01-12 at 11:47 AM
I forgot you were on the North Shore... *wince* The important thing is that you and yours are intact.

It sounds like Montauk was cut off from the rest of Long Island during the surge, but I'm not seeing anything about it being permanent. There's a lot of stories to sift through, but it's hard to see the land connections as having been completely destroyed.

Fire Island... *sigh* Waiting for the bigots to start cheering. (I noted up the thread that someone already declared Sandy as their deity's revenge for gay marriage. Given what happened to Seaside Heights, it's already been remarked that it was more likely vengeance for Jersey Shore.) But they'll rebuild if they can. They always do.

I keep not calling up pictures of Long Beach.

Gas gouging is hitting hard here. We're being encouraged to report it, but I don't know if the fines will take out the profits.

And the dark punchline: it was only a Category 1...

"RE: North Shore check in"
Posted by Snidget on 11-01-12 at 12:20 PM
Unfortunately category (wind speed and pressure) only really gives you the minimum amount of damage you can expect, not the maximum.

Size of the storm and how fast/slow it moves are not included in category and a large or stalled out tropical storm or tropical depression that isn't even one can be destructive.

"RE: North Shore check in"
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 11-01-12 at 02:51 PM
Yeah, here's a list of the ten costliest storms ever to hit the East Coast. We've got a category 2 as the second costliest storm, ahead of numerous 3, 4, and 5 storms.

I'm betting on Sandy being second on this list after everything is said and done...

"RE: North Shore check in"
Posted by jbug on 11-01-12 at 09:17 PM
so glad to hear you are okay.
The devastation is unbelievable.
I remember Homestead, Fl after Hurricane Andrew. Parts of it were just not there anymore; just slabs of concrete where homes had once been.

This one is even worse, I think.

"RE: North Shore check in"
Posted by Dakota on 11-02-12 at 00:04 AM
Glad you're ok. Staten Island and gas lines are the big topics in the news. Four days and cold temps. These folks need some heat.


Agman's Spring Fling '12.3

"Silver lining."
Posted by Estee on 11-02-12 at 06:59 AM
I am currently completely immune to gas gouging.

*sigh* Hoping ARNutz is okay. The southern part of the state got hammered, nailed, wrenched, and possibly awled.

"I'm fine"
Posted by ARnutz on 11-02-12 at 02:21 PM
Just still without power.

Once I am back online, I'll post about my adventures.

"Yea!"
Posted by jbug on 11-02-12 at 03:31 PM
Nutzy is still here!
"RE: I'm fine"
Posted by kidflash212 on 11-03-12 at 08:57 AM
Yea! Hope they get the power on before TAR.
"Wild West"
Posted by zombiebaby on 11-02-12 at 10:39 AM
Things are going from bad to worse.

No price gouging on gas because there is none. Zero. Lines yesterday were over 2 hours. People were trying to cut lines and threatening attendents. At the pumps there were reports of tempers flaring. To make matters worse the gas lines are on main roads that still have no power or traffic lights(can you say gridlock?). I tried to go out to get food since we have absolutely nothing and could not make it, ended up at the only fast food restaurant with power. There is NO traffic etiquette at all. Someone likened it to a video game.

One local pizza joint has been charging $25 for a plain pie. One Panera has been reported as turning off any outlets so people CAN'T charge. I guess they did not want people not buying anything sitting in their restaurants. But there are reports of most restaurants charging your devices and sending you home with ice at no charge.

So we have power but can't/wont go out of the house in order to save gas. Kids are still out of school. No power at one. Buses still can't get through some roads due to trees. The school used for voting has power but they have not removed the trees that are down around it. To top it all off they are calling for a nor'easter this Wednesday(the day kids are expected to go back to school).

"RE: Wild West"
Posted by jbug on 11-02-12 at 12:03 PM
Are you walking distance to anything that will help you?

Good to hear of some businesses who are willing to share their power. Around here, whenever there are power outages, most fast food places fully expect people will be using their a/c or heat and power to recharge; and they don't mind it.
McDonalds are usually always full cause of the free internet.

Hang in there.
Wish there was something we could do to help.

"RE: Wild West"
Posted by Estee on 11-02-12 at 03:22 PM
One thing about disasters: there are few surer ways to divide the species into heroes and jerks. Your jerks are out in quantity -- and not thinking long-term. See if anyone eats at that pizza place ever again.

It sounds like the gas pipelines are starting to come back online, so that may settle down soon.

Avoid all traffic video games when you don't have the cheat codes.

"Before and After Pics"
Posted by Snidget on 11-02-12 at 03:59 PM
http://www.weather.com/news/weather-hurricanes/before-after-images-sandy-20121102?pageno=1

*sigh*

"RE: Before and After Pics"
Posted by byoffer on 11-02-12 at 04:28 PM
Cycling through the storm. These guys are crazy, but the video is cool.
"RE: Before and After Pics"
Posted by byoffer on 11-02-12 at 04:44 PM
Those before and after pictures are stunning. The one of Brick NJ really caught my eye. I went on Google maps and found that are. All those things right below the pool complex in the before picture are houses - and all gone in the after picture. My count was almost 100 houses in that one little pocket - all gone.

My heart aches for all those devasted by the storm.

"The Family 'About Them'."
Posted by Estee on 11-02-12 at 05:08 PM
I can't make up my mind between 'X-Factor Nipples' and 'Hurricane Sandy Nipples'.

http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/khloe-kardashian-hurricane-sandy-was-responsible-for-my-the-x-factor-nipples-14039.php

"RE: The Family 'About Them'."
Posted by Snidget on 11-02-12 at 06:01 PM
LAST EDITED ON 11-02-12 AT 06:02 PM (EST)

It is too late now, just got back from voting (one hour line), but I wanna know which candidate's recovery program will give Khloe the most money to make up for her devastation.

ETA: I propose Sandy Nipples as what we will drink to remember those lost in the storm.

"No New York Marathon this Sunday."
Posted by Estee on 11-02-12 at 06:06 PM
This has been the local tempest in the teapot. Mayor Michael 'I care more about anyone who's flying in than I ever did about the locals' Bloomberg asked the NBA to cancel the Nets' home opener in Brooklyn (and it was) -- but then decided to go ahead with the race, citing out-of-town money as the central reason for proceeding. A increasingly-angry and rapidly-growing mob started chanting dark things about pulling police away to guard the race, the use of giant generators to set up the starting line when they would have been better off used elsewhere, the non-genius of asking people to hand out bottled water to runners when they themselves hadn't had a clean drink in days... you get the idea, and after the mob started weaving Do Not Cross tape into makeshift nooses, City Hall finally caught on.

No makeup date announced.

"RE: No New York Marathon this Sunday."
Posted by cahaya on 11-02-12 at 09:52 PM
For some folks, just getting by is a marathon in and of itself.

Marathon cancelled.

"The Marathon has been an integral part of New York City's life for 40 years and is an event tens of thousands of New Yorkers participate in and millions more watch," Bloomberg and marathon director Mary Wittenberg said in a joint statement. "While holding the race would not require diverting resources from the recovery effort, it is clear that it has become the source of controversy and division. The marathon has always brought our city together and inspired us with stories of courage and determination. We would not want a cloud to hang over the race or its participants, and so we have decided to cancel it.

Outrage, especially from hard hit Staten Island, forced the cancellation of the marathon. (AP)"We cannot allow a controversy over an athletic event – even one as meaningful as this – to distract attention away from all the critically important work that is being done to recover from the storm and get our city back on track."

And this from the guy who wants to prohibit super-sized Cokes.

Hey, you, I'm glad you're okay, we still haven't heard from Moonie or Nutzy yet. I hope you had some form of renter's insurance at least, but it's well that you're well.

"RE: No New York Marathon this Sunday."
Posted by Snidget on 11-02-12 at 09:59 PM
See post 173, Nutzy's checked in. Moonie has checked in on facebook.
"RE: No New York Marathon this Sunday."
Posted by Round Robin on 11-03-12 at 00:29 AM
Bloomberg was a stupid idiot about the whole thing. He should have announced a postponement at the same time as he got the NBA to ax that NBA game. Then he might have been able to reschedule it in a couple weeks. But thanks to his boneheadedness, he made such a lightning rod out of it that he probably can't run it at all now. And now you're gonna have all the businesses that lost that $350 million pi$$ed off at the Mayor and at the people b1tching about it, and thousands of runners already there who wasted money going to New York, and nobody's gonna be happy. Bloomberg shoulda known it wasn't gonna fly when they were still finding dead bodies in Staten Island and large chunks of the city still didn't have power yet, but he hasn't got brains enough to get in out of the rain, so I guess we shouldn't have expected better.
"RE: No New York Marathon this Sunday."
Posted by Brownroach on 11-03-12 at 11:46 AM
He went so far as to compare the situation to 2001, when the marathon remained scheduled after 9/11 and symbolically rallied the city. But in that case almost two months had elapsed, here it's not even a week yet. Agree it was a gross miscalculation on Bloomie's part. He ended up pissing off both sides.
"RE: No New York Marathon this Sunday."
Posted by foonermints on 11-04-12 at 02:25 PM
I guess he's helping out even more now..
"The runners did their part."
Posted by Estee on 11-04-12 at 08:16 PM
Some of them, at least. A number had come into town anticipating the race and decided to hold their own: four times around Central Park. But others chose to run through Staten Island -- distributing supplies.
"South Shore check in"
Posted by moonbaby on 11-03-12 at 02:03 PM
yeah that Sandy was just plain mean. It's surreal to be sitting in the house in the dark hearing cars drive by making announcements about sewage problems on one day and today saying if you need food, water or clothing to go to the firehouse. But we're lucky, there was no flooding here. Two blocks away is another story. Discarded furniture lined the streets yesterday. Gas is just impossible to get so we're staying put as much as possible. My BIL's business is destroyed but he's scrambling to try to get an industrial generator to save what he can.No success so far. My sister's house is finally fully powered, and much praise to a wonderful neighbor who threw us a generator line for the fridge and freezer until that happened. Their house still has no power, and that pisses me off. Mom's building was badly flooded, if you saw the pic I put up on facebook that water mark was at least four feet high. My apartment still has no power and I am SO ready to go home but here I am. That's about it for now! So so bad for so many people. Hang in there peeps, it's going to be a while before we recover from this one.
"RE: South Shore check in"
Posted by dabo on 11-03-12 at 02:41 PM
glad you're doing so well, under the circumstances
"RE: South Shore check in"
Posted by Estee on 11-04-12 at 08:24 PM
Has your BIL filed with insurance and FEMA? The sooner the better -- the paperwork is piling up fast.

You're in one of the remaining blackout zones? *wince* Hang on -- if the power doesn't flow soon, the blame sure will...

The gas situation is supposed to gradually improve over the next couple of weeks, but that's because the first of the generators being brought in are heading to the stations. Discussion of making them mandatory is taking place. Apparently this legislation was in CT some time back -- and was defeated. By the gas station owners. They didn't want to make the investment.

In retrospect...

The new Long Island sport: LIPA-ripping.

"RE: Sandy..."
Posted by Buggy on 11-03-12 at 03:20 PM
Has everyone checked in?
My thoughts to everyone!
"RE: Sandy..."
Posted by cahaya on 11-04-12 at 01:49 AM
It looks like we've got all of the bases covered... Moonie and Nutzy checked in and the other NYC folks managed to drop in a few lines even during the storm and soon afterward.

I had absolutely no idea when I made the original post that it would turn out like this, although even then the meteorologists were kind of freaked out by what they were seeing and what the models were forecasting. Frankenstorm was no joke for so many people.

I'm glad everyone among us is safe, although most everyone suffered losses of some sort, some of it unrecoverable.

My thoughts, too, reaches out to everyone in their recovery from this freak storm, an act of Nature that reminds us that not everything is within our own control.

Smooches to those of you to in New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania and elsewhere...

"another marathon"
Posted by Puffy on 11-04-12 at 04:35 PM
We met several runners who were going to run in the New York Marathon who, instead, came to the Santa Clarita Marathon in beautiful Southern California. It was a gorgeous day for racing. The people we spoke to had not wanted to run in the New York Marathon for moral and ethical reasons. This is the 12th year that the Santa Clarita Marathon has been held, on the same day as the New York Marathon. It is also an official qualifying race for the Boston Marathon.

"You know you've been car shopping too long..."
Posted by Estee on 11-04-12 at 08:29 PM
...when, while checking the map for places to go next, you notice the town of Coxsackie and immediately go into a five-minute giggle fit.
"RE: You know you've been car shopping too long..."
Posted by Snidget on 11-04-12 at 09:21 PM
Wait, I thought that was a virus...
"RE: You know you've been car shopping too long..."
Posted by Estee on 11-05-12 at 10:32 AM
Origin point of same, maybe?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coxsackie_%28town%29,_New_York

"BoinK!"
Posted by foonermints on 11-04-12 at 11:15 PM

Handcrafted by RollDdice

"Swwoooooooooop"
Posted by Karchita on 11-05-12 at 02:37 AM
BLOCK!

"RE: Swwoooooooooop"
Posted by foonermints on 11-05-12 at 10:46 AM
Karchita: Pokey but effective.

Keeper of The NoNiceGorn

"URLs that say it all."
Posted by Estee on 11-05-12 at 04:38 PM
http://www.grantland.com/blog/hollywood-prospectus/post/_/id/61261/with-hurricane-fundraiser-jersey-shore-cast-will-attempt-to-use-powers-for-good-and-not-evil
"Thank you sir"
Posted by moonbaby on 11-05-12 at 10:19 PM
May I have another?

Wednesday we are expecting another wind and rain event.

I just got power at my apt today and was planning on going back after work tomorrow. Now what? Really don't know what to do!

"Power at sister's is out too"
Posted by moonbaby on 11-08-12 at 12:15 PM
It happened shortly after dinner last night. So many trees and powerlines down with the 4-5" of wet heavy snow. New outage number for LIPA? 265,201. Between the first storm, the damage done to hard hit areas plus this new storm everyone is tearing their hair out. Wave the white flag, we surrender!

Oh, and LIPA and the LIRR blow.

Thanks for letting me vent

"RE: Power at sister's is out too"
Posted by Estee on 11-08-12 at 12:34 PM
I got the new window just in time and I have no car to dig out, so there's an extra plus. Power held through the night.

I think we're on the verge of seeing a major round of firings at LIPA. Someone is going to take the blame, and it may be at the point where golden parachutes will be cut. People thought it was the last straw when they were found to be lying about the outage map? No, because then they pulled the map entirely -- and still nothing happened, because they're LIPA and they were kind of busy. But now...

You can't blame them for the latest storm or the system. But if they don't get the latest round settled fast, then they may finally be at the point where their monopoly status can no longer serve as protection, at least for a few in the higher ranks.

Crazy-case: Cuomo finds a way to break them up. Triple the companies and triple the repair wait?

"Adding insult to injury."
Posted by zombiebaby on 11-08-12 at 02:11 PM
They said to expect rate hikes because of these storms now.



Merry and Twisted by Agman

"RE: Adding insult to injury."
Posted by Estee on 11-08-12 at 07:44 PM
It's as if they're standing in front of Cuomo yelling 'Nyah-nyah!' while holding a KICK ME sign. Do they really think they're getting out clean?

It looks like I had another blackout today: everything needed resetting.

"Nobody should EVER"
Posted by moonbaby on 11-08-12 at 08:52 PM
have to shovel snow out of their bedroom! Glad that window got installed before it went from bad to worse.

There's power at sister's again, still none at my place. Good thing there's hardly ever anything in the fridge

"Atlantic City in trouble."
Posted by Estee on 11-08-12 at 09:36 PM
The circle's resident gambler just called me. She received an offer from the Harrah's group (namesake, Showboat, Bally's, Caesar's) for three free hotel nights in November. Any three nights. Weekends included. Consecutive is fine. Plus food credit just for showing up.

As she put it, "If they're having that much trouble filling the space, I'm sure there's a lot of displaced Shore residents who'd be happy to get the beds and a decent meal."

They also want her to go down and see William Shatner do a one-man show. She's not sure why.

"RE: Atlantic City in trouble."
Posted by Snidget on 11-09-12 at 08:00 AM
I heard some report about issues with rescue/clean up people having problems getting hotel rooms and that they were being told to head to Atlantic City. That even though it would seem they wouldn't be ready for business they were and most of the tourists hadn't come back.

That has been an issue for the tourist industry in other areas. Often the hotels are a lot harder to take out than homes and often in areas that are likely to get power back first (as business districts tend to be where hospitals and first responders are) often they are ready for business long before the disaster is over. Generally with coastal problems everyone heads further and further inland when looking for open hotel rooms as a refugee or rescuer/clean up person. They don't think to head up and down the coast to find the first tourist spot that reopened.

"RE: Sandy..."
Posted by foonermints on 11-10-12 at 02:12 AM
"House declines to vote on Sandy relief bill."
Posted by Estee on 01-02-13 at 08:12 AM
Blue states? Die.
"Feh"
Posted by moonbaby on 01-02-13 at 03:16 PM
I am disgusted. Out of sight, out of mind.
"RE: Feh"
Posted by suzzee on 01-02-13 at 03:22 PM
Idiots, maybe congress should be forced to take their session break in one of the homes that were flooded.


I should be watched....closely.

"RE: Feh"
Posted by Estee on 01-02-13 at 03:36 PM
On the plus side, Christie's guaranteed explosion should be epic.
"RE: Feh"
Posted by kingfish on 01-02-13 at 04:03 PM
It is reprehensible for anyone to hold up voting on a bill to fund aid to Storm Sandy victims as a petulant reaction to the Dec 31 fiscal bill. 60 billion will probably help a lot.

Obama also has quite a large discretionary fund that he could send. No votes needed but his. Has he "voted" to send that money?

Fie on them all.

Looking at it from my far off vantage point, it seems Gov. Christy has acquitted himself pretty well in regard to his Storm Sandy response.

"RE: Feh"
Posted by kingfish on 01-02-13 at 05:35 PM
Follow up:

Apparently NY Congressman King convinced Boehner to bring the bills to a vote. $9 billion on Friday and 51 billion on Jan 15.

Bluster and petulance.

""Epic" was a good word."
Posted by Estee on 01-02-13 at 08:02 PM
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/chris-christie-tears-into-boehner-for-delaying-sandy-aid-this-was-the-speakers-decision-his-alone/

And for the record? That did it. Unless the Democrats run the political equivalent of Bruce Springsteen, I will vote Christie for a second term.

"RE: "Epic" was a good word."
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 01-02-13 at 08:09 PM
Aye, let's hope that this in some small way helps to wake up the Congresscritters to stop wasting everyone's time and start to work together in some way instead of enduring a fie-to-you, fie-to-me approach on pretty much every issue.

Yeah, not going to hold my breath, but at least we got some results out of both Christie and King speaking out against the dilly-dallying and especially about their own party holding things up.

"RE: "Epic" was a good word."
Posted by dabo on 01-02-13 at 08:55 PM
Good for him. The no-brains controlling teh House ought to be damned ashamed of themselves.
"Hell yeah"
Posted by moonbaby on 01-02-13 at 10:13 PM
*standing ovation*
"RE: Hell yeah"
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 01-02-13 at 10:25 PM
Hell yeah, indeed!

Question for you... business as usual in NYC at the moment or still severely impacted by Sandy?

(Pene and I are planning a NYC trip in the next few months, that's why I'm wondering)

"RE: Hell yeah"
Posted by dabo on 01-02-13 at 11:58 PM
They're probably still cleaning up after Zombie Dick Clark's New Year's Rockin' Eve.
"Lower Manhattan still impacted"
Posted by moonbaby on 01-03-13 at 12:08 PM
and probably quite a few businesses are still closed. Statue of Liberty and Ellis Island are currently closed. Most of the places by South Street Seaport are closed.

Further uptown it's business as usual, but some places on the water may not be open.

Outside of the city: seaside communities are still struggling but I don't think you're going to be hitting the beach that time of year.

"RE: Hell yeah"
Posted by cahaya on 01-03-13 at 00:52 AM
Finally! A politician who has the constituency screaming bloody hell, oh yeah, for them!
"Speaker Of The Petty."
Posted by Estee on 01-03-13 at 09:28 AM
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/sources-hurricane-aid-tabled-spite-article-1.1231561

So if the Daily News is right, the Speaker decided to let a few million people bleed in the name of casual vengeance against one politician who decided to work with the opposition in the name of not crashing the entire country. We can't destroy the economy, so let's just take out part of the Mid-Atlantic.

And here we have Peter King saying no New Yorker or Jerseyan should ever give a penny to the GOP again. Speaking as a Republican. That cracking sound you just heard was the Republican Party moderate sane members splitting off, right along with Boehner's presidential aspirations falling apart.

I'm sure someone will be along in a few minutes to justify Boehner's actions and argue against passage of the bill. To which I say: have fun with that. But his mask came off, and he can never again hope to hide what's underneath: a dirt-kicking kindergartener who tried to take the ball and go home.

This is your leadership, Republicans. This is the man who speaks for you. Clearly you have no choice but to reelect him.

Optionally, you can blame the traitor for forcing the whole thing.

"RE: Speaker Of The Petty."
Posted by kingfish on 01-03-13 at 10:22 AM
Let's just enjoy our Kum-by-ya moment with Christie. Good ole, fat, jolly, happens to be a Republican but so what, Christy.

After all, the Dems have Reid, the guy who, if you oppose him and stand by your convictions will throw a hissy fit and call you schoolyard names with the zeal (and vocal range) of a Barney Fife, and Pelosi, a detestable shrieking harpy persona in the form of the wicked witch of the east, except we don't have water as an antidote for her.

Seems they all suck the big banana.

"RE: Speaker Of The Petty."
Posted by dabo on 01-03-13 at 11:07 AM

"RE: House declines to vote on Sandy relief"
Posted by dabo on 01-04-13 at 01:09 PM
http://news.msn.com/politics/house-approves-dollar97-billion-for-sandy-claims

The U.S. House has overwhelmingly approved $9.7 billion to pay flood insurance claims for the many home and business owners flooded out by Superstorm Sandy. The vote came more than two months after the storm hit and days after Northeast Republicans erupted over House leader John Boehner's decision to delay an earlier vote.

Friday's 354-67 vote sends the bill to the Senate, which expects to pass the bill later Friday. All of the no votes were cast by Republicans.

"RE: House declines to vote on Sandy relief"
Posted by Estee on 01-04-13 at 01:21 PM
I wonder if:

Any of the No voters lived in affected areas --

-- if not, whether they'd had any disasters during their tenure which required emergency federal aid in their areas --

-- and if so, whether they'd voted No on that.

'The distinguished gentleman from the empathy-free Louisiana seat...'

"RE: House declines to vote on Sandy relief"
Posted by AyaK on 01-04-13 at 07:45 PM
LAST EDITED ON 01-04-13 AT 07:46 PM (EST)

Haven't been around much, but I want to weigh in on this.

I'm completely against Congress offering flood insurance.

COMPLETELY.

Flood insurance isn't insurance. It's a subsidy to help people live in areas where catastrophic events are likely. Basically, it's a wealth transfer from people who live in safe places to people who live in unsafe places like ocean shorelines and river banks, places where no one would choose to live in a country that didn't subsidize their imprudent decisions with other people's money.

HOWEVER, it's counterproductive to cut off the subsidy program when there are people who were depending on it and who have made claims against it. Instead, the right way to cut the program off is prospectively -- that is: after <fixed date>, the U.S. government will no longer subsidize your living choices.

It would have helped if the White House hadn't insisted that the fiscal cliff deal include the entire Baucus "extenders" bill, which is full of corporate lard for both parties' preferred constituencies. Without the extenders bill, voting prospectively to delete flood insurance looks principled. With the extenders bill, though, no Congressional vote to cut a single program looks principled. I'm presuming that's what Obama wanted.

"RE: House declines to vote on Sandy relief"
Posted by Estee on 01-05-13 at 09:09 AM
Regardless, I'm starting to get my answers: at least one No rep happily voted his own state Katrina relief funds. And of course, one of the No votes was Paul Ryan. Because it always is.

The Daily News, feeling vindictive, published all the names and the phone numbers for their offices. The Post carefully forget anything had happened and ran a picture of a man duct-taped to an airplane seat.

There may be places safe from floods, but there is no part of the country immune to natural disaster.

"RE: House declines to vote on Sandy relief"
Posted by HobbsofMI on 01-04-13 at 01:54 PM
If any of their districts have a natural disaster...no money for you!


sig Syren, bouncy by IceCat, bobble head by Tribephyl, and snoglobe by agman

"Where's Waldo Estee's car??"
Posted by byoffer on 01-08-13 at 06:11 PM
Maybe at this airport, but not getting a vacation.