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"Seacrest Says (WARNING: MAY CONTAIN SPOILER)"
Posted by sleeeve on 03-26-04 at 05:41 PM
WARNING: This post may contain information about the winner of The Apprentice.

I have a friend who religiously listens to Ryan Seacrest's Los Angeles-based radio show, and she says that Ryan spoiled the winner of "The Apprentice" on his show Wednesday.

Apparently, Ryan accurately reported the winner of America's Top Model 2 on the show a few weeks ago, and now he says that he has reliable information that Kwame will be Trump's apprentice.

Take it for what it's worth. Personally, since it's Ryan and since Trump will not announce the winner until the live finale, I'm not sure if I believe it, but I figured that I'd dutifully report it here.

Oh... and if this has already been mentioned, then I apologize

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"RE: Seacrest Says (WARNING: MAY CONTAIN SPOILER)"
Posted by subman on 03-26-04 at 05:59 PM
Kwame certainly has a shot at the job. He has both the education and the temperment to handle a job of such responsibility. ALso, given that this challenege is largely a subjective competition, the fact that Omoanorosa was given such a hard time (not) may actually help Kwame win.
"RE: Seacrest Says (WARNING: MAY CONTAIN SPOILER)"
Posted by Bosco on 03-26-04 at 06:11 PM
Thinking Kwame will be in the final two? Perhaps along with Bill or Nick? Would be happy to see Kwame be the apprentice, the guy has such a great personality!
"RE: Seacrest Says (WARNING: MAY CONTAIN SPOILER)"
Posted by TheMick on 03-26-04 at 08:09 PM
Sure Kwame may win. Since there are now only 5 candidates to work for the Don, his chance's are now 20%, so his shot to win is as good as any. Now is when they get their poker face on and strategize against each other.
"RE: Seacrest Says (WARNING: MAY CONTAIN SPOILER)"
Posted by jackandjill on 03-26-04 at 08:50 PM
Kwame as the winner doesn't surprise me based on MB's editing. Kwame hasn't had much face time lately. The focus is on Nick and Amy. Bill is now being edited as a mean s.o.b (extra face time) so it's feasible that Kwame he-who-has-no-hidden-agenda ends up winning it all.

My boot order prediction:

Amy - "fall from grace"
Bill - he doesn't fit in with the remaining guys
Troy - It won't be a Troy/Kwame 2-man lovefest in front of Trump.
Nick - We will put up with his smirk a little longer
Kwame - if you had to chose between Nick and Kwame, who would you pick?

"RE: Seacrest Says (WARNING: MAY CONTAIN SPOILER)"
Posted by Bosco on 03-26-04 at 09:14 PM
jackandjill: that is funny because this order is what I had in mind earlier today!

agree, it will either be Troy or Kwame it will be only one of them against another person. Might as well be Nick lol

"RE: Seacrest Says (WARNING: MAY CONTAIN SPOILER)"
Posted by landruajm on 03-29-04 at 07:28 AM
To run my company? Uhm...Nick, hands-down. Especially if I'm Donald Trump and I don't want some cookie-cutter B-school yes-man.

Not remotely close to a contest, actually. But maybe that's just me.

"Where did he get HIS info?"
Posted by mavsfan on 03-26-04 at 11:46 PM
Does your friend in LA remember if Seacrest gave attribute for the Kwame win's spoiler?

I suspect Seacrest's source on Kwame win's was the report that Katrina was overheard at a night club saying Kwame win's after getting questioned by folks who recognized her.

"RE: Seacrest Says (WARNING: MAY CONTAIN SPOILER)"
Posted by ladro on 03-27-04 at 00:12 AM
who'd of thought... Ryan Secrest has a radio show.
"RE: Seacrest Says (WARNING: MAY CONTAIN SPOILER)"
Posted by gold dust on 03-27-04 at 02:05 AM
I saw Larry King Live where DT said the winner has not been chosen yet. He said the winner will be announced live, so those that made it to the final three or two -- even they dont know who will be chosen until the finale. At least thats what DT said on the Larry king live show.
"RE: Seacrest Says (WARNING: MAY CONTAIN SPOILER)"
Posted by Oscirus on 03-27-04 at 11:08 AM
If thats the case there is no way in hell that Kwame gets the job now.


Bring back the spice rack
Congragulations to the apprentice Mr Kwame Jackson

"RE: Seacrest Says (WARNING: MAY CONTAIN SPOILER)"
Posted by Bosco on 03-27-04 at 04:56 PM
Kwame might be in the final (make it 2 or 3) and he is probably up against Nick! That's why the speculation
"Kwame is scr*wed now!"
Posted by trigirl on 03-29-04 at 09:16 AM
If thats the case there is no way in hell that Kwame gets the job now.

If Kwame was in the final two, all this spoiler stuff is going to work against him. The Don and MB won't want to pick The Apprentice that has been outed in the media as one of the finalists! At the live 'pick' all this attention will hurt his chances.

Maybe it is a vicious ploy from one the other finalist! But wait...Omarosa isn't there anymore, how could that be?

"RE: Kwame is scr*wed now!"
Posted by Oscirus on 03-29-04 at 03:09 PM
Maybe it is a vicious ploy from one the other finalist! But wait...Omarosa isn't there anymore, how could that be?

-but Nick the prick is still there and there's no love lost between those two.

still keepin the signature though until it's time to insert my foot into my mouth and go mmmmph



Bring back the spice rack
Congragulations to the apprentice Mr Kwame Jackson

"RE: Seacrest Says (WARNING: MAY CONTAIN SPOILER)"
Posted by Pepito on 03-27-04 at 06:28 PM
Hmmh, this jibes with Katrina's announcement that Kwame is The Apprentice. Two spoiler sources both announcing the same winner could be ominous. But then again, both announcements MAY just actually be coming from the SAME source...
"RE: Seacrest Says (WARNING: MAY CONTAIN SPOILER)"
Posted by leogirl_21 on 03-28-04 at 08:51 AM
originally posted by jackandjill

My boot order prediction:

Amy - "fall from grace"
Bill - he doesn't fit in with the remaining guys
Troy - It won't be a Troy/Kwame 2-man lovefest in front of Trump.
Nick - We will put up with his smirk a little longer
Kwame - if you had to chose between Nick and Kwame, who would you pick?


LOL! I love the way that you said this...and I think I agree with you...

"RE: Seacrest Says (WARNING: MAY CONTAIN SPOILER)"
Posted by Busy Izi on 03-30-04 at 03:03 PM
I know that this is a stupid question...but please someone tell me what LOL is. I am new to this online chat stuff and so also ignorant to the lingo. Thanks. please dont make fun of me. I can't learn if i don't ask.
"Board Jargon"
Posted by grit on 03-30-04 at 03:39 PM
LOL = Laughing Out Loud
LMAO = Laughing My A$$ Off
ROTFLMAO = Rolling On The Floor Laughing My A$$ Off
IHMO = In My Humble Opinion

HTH = Hope This Helps!

And don't be afraid to ask!

"RE: Board Jargon"
Posted by Busy Izi on 04-01-04 at 06:43 PM
Thanx grit... I printed your reply and taped it to my computer. You're the best.
"RE: Seacrest Says (WARNING: MAY CONTAIN SPOILER)"
Posted by landruajm on 03-29-04 at 07:26 AM
Wait just one darned tootin' minute here, Eee. There's nothing in here about a cameraman. Or about your uncle. How are we to believe any of this?

I'm sorry, man. I used to have a lot more respect for your spoiling ability.

Beware of Lokiii the Trickster.

"Kwami not the least bit impressive"
Posted by rumplestilchen on 03-29-04 at 12:16 PM
Okay, you folks obviously see something I do not. He is well educated but he has no business savvy. Just because you have a degree does not make you the best choice for a job.

I like Kwami, he seems like a nice enough guy, but he has no pizzaz!

"RE: Kwami not the least bit impressive"
Posted by Bosco on 03-29-04 at 03:21 PM
yes he is a good businessman and potentially strong leader. he brings out the best in people (Troy and Bill)

Media attention won't hurt if he is in the final two. DT is gonna pick whoever he wants anyway, don't think it will affect his decision.

"RE: Kwami not the least bit impressive"
Posted by thomas2727 on 03-29-04 at 03:21 PM
I totally agree.

What has Kwame really done?

Here are a few things off the top of my head.

1. Pick the horrible location for the lemonade sales.
2. Misrepresent himself at the Planet Hollywood challenge.
3. Could not even make $1 drivng the bike/taxi.
4. Let Troy carry him most of the way so far.

Kwame seems to be a decent guy, but I just do not see him as the best of the group.

"RE: Kwami not the least bit impressive"
Posted by Recruiter on 03-29-04 at 08:53 PM
Don't forget....

5. He picked the artist, or at least made the final decision.
6. Saw a tiger/magic show

In the three episodes where he was Project Leader, he never acted as a leader:
- Planet Hollywood, Bill was the obvious leader.
- Art Show, Heidi and Troy were the leaders if there was any.
- Casino, Bill lead them to victory.

Kwame is no leader, simply a great follower.

"RE: Kwami not the least bit impressive"
Posted by Oscirus on 03-30-04 at 01:48 PM

5. He picked the artist, or at least made the final decision.
SO he took a risk instead of going with the safe choice big deal


6. Saw a tiger/magic show
you mean while the other tema was sleeping or while Nick and Amy was playing footsies


In the three episodes where he was Project Leader, he never acted as a leader:

Planet Hollywood, Bill was the obvious leader.
Bill was the leader from inside the restaurant while Kwame was OUTSIDE most of the night I should hope so being that Kwame put him in charge there

Kwame is no leader, simply a great follower.
Kwame's always followed through with his plans, never openly criticized any of his project members in the middle of the project, never appeared flustered and has done what had to be done (regardless of what others thought) to win. that sure as hell sounds like a great leader to me.

Casino, Bill lead them to victory.
Sure he did following Kwame's instruction.

Art Show, Heidi and Troy were the leaders if there was any.
you just contradicted yourself because you just said that Kwame made the final decision to pick the artist.



Bring back the spice rack
Congragulations to the apprentice Mr Kwame Jackson

"RE: Kwami not the least bit impressive"
Posted by Jims02 on 03-30-04 at 04:55 PM
SO he took a risk instead of going with the safe choice big deal

True, but it was stupid risk, as revealed by the final results. You have to believe in the product that you're selling, per Uncle Donald's lesson time. Kwame (as well as the rest of the group) blew that lesson.

you mean while the other tema was sleeping or while Nick and Amy was playing footsies

Come on. There's a big difference between sleeping and going to a show. Even though I think Versa was wrong for sleeping away planning time, if you really wanted to, you could justify why they did it. "They were tired, needed more energy for challenge... Yada yada yada..."

Had only Kwame gone to the show, I could see a reasonable justification to it. They had to see the show to get the tiger. Fine. Send Troy back with Bill for more planning then. This is one of my criticisms of Troy too.

Kwame's always followed through with his plans, never openly criticized any of his project members in the middle of the project, never appeared flustered and has done what had to be done (regardless of what others thought) to win. that sure as hell sounds like a great leader to me.

True, Kwame has been one of the most levelheaded leaders of the group. But Kwame is also the Master Delegator. That's a good quality in a leader sometimes, so the leader can look at the whole picture. But, the PM should also lead, as in making adjustments, new ideas. It seems like to me all the ideas come from Troy. But that's just IMHO.

Sure he did following Kwame's instruction.

They might have edited it out. I just remember Bill stressing the importance of VIPs. Until the cameras show Kwame instructing, I'm skeptical.

I think Kwame is a great guy and has good business sense. I really do. But he really hasn't been too visible as far as leadership and brainstorming... Maybe it's being edited that way. I dunno. I'm just calling what I see.


Jims02: 2004 CMY Anti-Executee Champ

"RE: Kwami not the least bit impressive"
Posted by Busy Izi on 03-30-04 at 03:08 PM
Absolutely agree!!! In fact in the episode blurbs where Carolyn was chastizing someone because she had not seen "one single thing" out of them yet...I had assumed that it was Kwame that whe was speaking to.
"RE: Kwami not the least bit impressive"
Posted by Oscirus on 03-30-04 at 01:37 PM
1. Pick the horrible location for the lemonade sales
perhaps but he was also the person who secured the table and other supplies for free

2. Misrepresent himself at the Planet Hollywood challenge
so flirting with customers to buy drinks or giving up in the middle of the challenge is a good representation?

3. Could not even make $1 drivng the bike/taxi
How much did Superstar Amy make doing the same thing?

4. Let Troy carry him most of the way so far.
Right how many board rooms has troy saved Kwame from o yea the same amount as Kwame saved bill from.

If you look at the others they've made at least the same amount of mistakes if not more



Bring back the spice rack
Congragulations to the apprentice Mr Kwame Jackson

"RE: Kwami not the least bit impressive"
Posted by thomas2727 on 03-30-04 at 03:08 PM
1. Pick the horrible location for the lemonade sales
perhaps but he was also the person who secured the table and other supplies for free

I would say the sales location was a lot more important than the free supplies.

2. Misrepresent himself at the Planet Hollywood challenge
so flirting with customers to buy drinks or giving up in the middle of the challenge is a good representation?

Don't change the subject. Yes the women were in the wrong and it has caught up with them since 7 of them have been fired in a row. As Bill and Nick pointed out Kwame was very unethical in his actions at Planet Hollywood. It is obvious that he was trying to make people think he was somebody important, which at the time he was not yet somebody famous.

3. Could not even make $1 drivng the bike/taxi
How much did Superstar Amy make doing the same thing?

Amy came up with the idea for selling advertising on the taxi. I am not sure how much she made giving taxi rides, but Kwame admitted to making nothing.

4. Let Troy carry him most of the way so far.
Right how many board rooms has troy saved Kwame from o yea the same amount as Kwame saved bill from.

Kwame is Troy's right hand man. His puppet. Anybody that cannot see that is just not looking or does not want to see the truth. Bill won the casino challenge by coming up with the high roller strategy. Kwame was merely the beneficiary of Bill's great idea.

If you look at the others they've made at least the same amount of mistakes if not more.

This is a board on Kwame, I am sure the others have made mistakes. But to say Kwame is so great is a joke. The guy has made huge mistakes on many occasions.

"RE: Kwami not the least bit impressive"
Posted by Oscirus on 03-31-04 at 01:06 PM
LAST EDITED ON 03-31-04 AT 01:31 PM (EST)

LAST EDITED ON 03-31-04 AT 01:24 PM (EST)

As Bill and Nick pointed out Kwame was very unethical in his actions at Planet Hollywood. It is obvious that he was trying to make people think he was somebody important, which at the time he was not yet somebody famous.
Though I see nothing wrong with what he did if people are stupid enough to buy his autograph without knowing who he is that's their fault not his

Kwame is Troy's right hand man. His puppet. Anybody that cannot see that is just not looking or does not want to see the truth.
I'm not seeing it what makes it so obvious.

corrections on the following quote

Right how many board rooms has troy saved Kwame from o yea the same amount as Kwame saved bill from.

I messed up troy's name should be where bill's name is at


Bring back the spice rack
Congragulations to the apprentice Mr Kwame Jackson

"RE: Kwami not the least bit impressive"
Posted by trigirl on 03-29-04 at 05:03 PM
But...who is the one person that everyone that has been fired said they liked...Kwame. Is there at least a Mr. Congeniality prize?

"RE: Kwami is impressive"
Posted by Bosco on 03-29-04 at 05:30 PM
Exactly! You can get people to do anything for you when they like you. People skill is one of the most important factor for leadership. Many people have brillaint ideas, that's why you hire staff for. But how to bring out the best in people/make people feel at ease is more difficult skill to acquire and that's why people who have this skill would make a good leader.
"RE: Kwami is impressive"
Posted by managerr on 03-30-04 at 04:49 PM
In the real world, someone with Kwame's leadership style is very common and can do quite well. "Sit back and let your team excel" is all good--as we saw in the case last week when he had a good team and he was able to ride his people to victory. So many people got to where they were today because they were good at hiring people and building a team. (Even if their leadership skills were minimal)

However, when you have a dysfunctional team, like he was saddled with in earlier episodes--there comes times when you do need to step up and take charge. He failed to do that.

"RE: Kwami is impressive"
Posted by Bosco on 03-31-04 at 01:18 AM
"SO he took a risk instead of going with the safe choice big deal
True, but it was stupid risk, as revealed by the final results. You have to believe in the product that you're selling, per Uncle Donald's lesson time. Kwame (as well as the rest of the group) blew that lesson."

**IF THIS IS STUPID RISK, WHAT DO YOU CALL AMY'S RENTAL CAR IDEA?

"2. Misrepresent himself at the Planet Hollywood challenge
so flirting with customers to buy drinks or giving up in the middle of the challenge is a good representation?
Don't change the subject. Yes the women were in the wrong and it has caught up with them since 7 of them have been fired in a row. As Bill and Nick pointed out Kwame was very unethical in his actions at Planet Hollywood. It is obvious that he was trying to make people think he was somebody important, which at the time he was not yet somebody famous.
3. Could not even make $1 drivng the bike/taxi
How much did Superstar Amy make doing the same thing?
Amy came up with the idea for selling advertising on the taxi. I am not sure how much she made giving taxi rides, but Kwame admitted to making nothing."

**FIRST OF ALL, I THINK THE CELEBRITY IDEA IS SNEAKY, BUT HEY IT WORKED, WHY NOT? TO BE HONEST I FIND IT QUITE ENTERTAINING. AND HEY, IF KWAME BECOME THE NEXT APPRENTICE, IMAGINE HOW MUCH THOSE THINGS WILL SELL ON EBAY.

I DON'T THINK KISSING AND GIVING SOMEONE'S ONE'S PHONE NUMBER IN ORDER TO SELL LEMONADE IS ANY BETTER PRESENTATION. AND THAT'S NOT CHANGING THE SUBJECT LOL

IF PICKING UP A LOT OF CUSTOMERS MEANING BEING A GOOD LEADER. WHY NOT JUST HIRE A TAXI DRIVER TO BE A PRESIDENT? HAHA. PEOPLE DIDN'T GO TO HARVARD TO BE TAXI DRIVERS, YOU KNOW....

"RE: Kwami is impressive"
Posted by mrc on 03-31-04 at 12:34 PM
No need to yell, Bosco. We can all read. Make your point with an argument, not w/ caps.
"RE: Kwami is impressive"
Posted by Bosco on 03-31-04 at 07:25 PM
mrc you're thinking too much. capitalizing so to distinguish my words away from quoting. this is just internet not real life lol
"RE: Kwami is impressive"
Posted by mrc on 03-31-04 at 08:28 PM
In cyberworld, using all caps is considered yelling. Just tryin' to help a brotha (or sistah, whichever the case may be) out!
"RE: Kwami is impressive"
Posted by Bosco on 03-31-04 at 08:30 PM
lol you need to go out more
"RE: Kwami is impressive"
Posted by mrc on 03-31-04 at 08:43 PM
I probably do!
"RE: Seacrest Says (WARNING: MAY CONTAIN SPOILER)"
Posted by silentJ on 03-31-04 at 04:58 PM
I've been saying since episode 3 that it was going to come down to Troy and Kwame. They're the only two on the show that have looked remotely able to handle a multi-million dollar company. I figure that MB selected the cast this way on purpose to have the final selection come down to "Harvard MBA" vs. "the good ole' boy with a high school edjikation and down home charm". It would be the best TV possible. MB must be patting himself on the back for regaining control of His show from those idiotic survivors that that never vote the way they're supposed to. MB probably gave Trump the final 2 before the show started taping.