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"Holly"

Posted by ElyseSewellsPanties on 09-24-03 at 04:43 PM
Have I just been blinded by her good looks until the last week or so, or has it always been obvious what a ##### Holly is? Last night she just seemed downright bitchy and mean! She's still the cutest female on the show but unless she goes the dominatrix route, I don't want nothin to do with her!!!

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"RE: Holly"
Posted by lovethisreality on 09-24-03 at 04:56 PM
she has always been bitchy. She is yucky and king of fat...but she does have a cute face.

"RE: Holly"
Posted by Purrl on 09-24-03 at 05:31 PM
as the ESPN article in another post about PH puts it: " Holly, a buxom airhead who eagerly admitted she'd do a Girls of "Paradise Hotel" spread in Playboy..."

All I have to add is that she is a Bitchy (please note the Capital B), LAmy Lovin', Hop-Scott, passive aggressive, non-conversant lemming



"RE: Holly"
Posted by managerr on 09-24-03 at 06:24 PM
Holly is an airhead. Before she and Keith started trading useless insults, the point of her argument was valid. Dave did tell her she was safe. She wasn't making that up. She was just silly (or naive) enough to actually believe him.

"RE: Holly"
Posted by lovethisreality on 09-24-03 at 06:42 PM
It is not what she said; it is HOW she said it. She says no one pounced on her cause she didn't deserve it but keith was pounced on cause they had reason to....they didn't pounce her because they never noticed her. they basically ignored her all the time....

"RE: Holly"
Posted by managerr on 09-24-03 at 08:14 PM
I know, I'm counting this as part of the "useless" argument segment. Keith's retort should have been "I booted Zack, but you booted Toni!"

"RE: Holly"
Posted by Chrissy gal on 09-24-03 at 08:20 PM
Exactly what I have said all along, managerr. Not only is she a harpie, she is CLUELESS!!

Chrissy gal

"Never underestimate the potential psychosis of a reality show contestant." managerr


"RE: Holly"
Posted by sbeck on 09-24-03 at 11:36 PM
Amen to that!

"RE: Holly"
Posted by CantStandToLook on 09-24-03 at 11:32 PM
From Dave's actual comment which was "Holly you aren't going home this week", he IMPLIED that she was safe but that isn't the same thing as saying "Holly, I will save you and Scott". Dave still blew it but in his best lawyer speak, he did leave himself a bit of an out also. Holly took it exactly how he hoped she would but he's been very careful with his choice of words in these situations and she did misquote him when telling the others. The fact that he doesn't handle being called out on things very well didn't help with managing the situation with Kieth and Scott.


"Threading Holly's "needle""
Posted by RollDdice on 09-26-03 at 03:32 AM
CSTL wrote: From Dave's actual comment which was "Holly you aren't going home this week", he IMPLIED that she was safe but that isn't the same thing as saying "Holly, I will save you and Scott".
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The more I think about it, the more I believe that Dave was trying (again) to use very specific words to buy some wiggle room. He was trying to give Hollow the impression that he was backing her and Snott, but he could have later spun it as "I felt more optimistic about your chances than ours."

The problem is that it's only 3 couples left and everyone is asking for specifics because there's nowhere left to hide.

So... why in the name of all that is holy didn't Dave have his sh1t together for the follow-up questions? He plots and plans, diagrams and schemes... right up until the moment he opens his mouth.



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"RE: Holly"
Posted by soapie on 09-24-03 at 09:09 PM
I think she is cute! Give her a break! So she blew up in one episode! Keith deserves it! He's the one who is clueless! Dave has been playing him like his little b#$@! the whole time!

"RE: Holly"
Posted by Chrissy gal on 09-24-03 at 09:17 PM
OK everyone, repeat after me - "I will not bash the newbie, I will not bash the newbie, I will not bash the newbie..." Now if you don't feel better try this one - Breath in, breath in, breath in, breath in, pass out. Now has the urge to bash the newbie disappeared??

Chrissy gal

"Never underestimate the potential psychosis of a reality show contestant." managerr


"Did someone call the Wolf? - reply to Soapie"
Posted by Angelfood on 09-24-03 at 09:45 PM
Sweet ChrissyGal, don't get those pretty hands dirty.
I'll take it from here...

Lemme quote my recent post,
"We would always be gentle to those who bother to read our posts a bit and add something well thought out, or funny, or, whatever (as opposed to those who enter, start 3 threads, condone bullying, and leave never to at least face our factual rebuttals)."

So, I shall respectfully challenge your Holly description:

Soapie, honey, do you realize that Holly is a passive-aggressive Toni-wannabe?
She's blown up in at least 4 episodes (have you been watching long?).
She's only brave enough to start accusing a barbie when she has her friends to hide behind.
She didn't get Dave's quote right last night, and then swore to Scott that he said it.
Her eyes bulge every time she is scared about Scott (jealousy or fear of rejection).
She didn't treat Melanie all that well (even tho her suspicions were well-founded).
She is a DAW, expecting Scott to come to their room.
Scott is right, she was totally focused on herself and not his feelings (about the Melanie situation).
It is obvious that she is there as a precursor to her Playboy Cover ambitions - great ambition.

However, You've attempted to insult my idol, SuperKeith. You were inaccurate, harsh, foul, potty-mouth and immature in your descriptions there. Are you old enough to be on this board?
I'm guessing not.

Keith wasn't played. He was playing! He's not gonna roll over and let Dave beat him out of Scott's vote (like Tom would've).

Hope this debate is respectfully continued...


"RE: Did someone call the Wolf? - reply to Soapie"
Posted by soapie on 09-24-03 at 11:28 PM
Yes, I am old enough to be on this board. I am allowed to give my opinion don't you think?
My thoughts still stand. You have to remember that all of this reality shows are edited! We will never see or know the whole picture or the true story behind any of them. Yet again, this is only T.V. not real life. I do not have to waste my time debating on people that I will never know or meet.
But my opinion still stands. Holly is a cool chick..If she wants to be in Playboy I say go for it girl!!!!

"RE: Did someone call the Wolf? - reply to Soapie"
Posted by jkokoj on 09-25-03 at 10:00 AM
LAST EDITED ON 09-25-03 AT 10:01 AM (EST)

soapie, I agree this show is edited to get the most attention from the viewers, but that is all I will agree with you about.

Please keep in mind the producers have edited in ALL of the nasty and vile things the children have done for a purpose. Let us not least forget that those children DID behave the way they have been portrayed. There may have been SOME nice and/or pleasant scenes with the children, however, the majority of the "originals" time spent in PH were belittling Charla and advancing on Keith.

The threats were real, the in your face hate spewing by Amy were real. In REALITY those traits are not very appealing. The traits that are appealing are restraint, maturity and comprehension of a situation. Dave, Charla, Keith and Tara have shown those traits the best. Some may argue that Scott showed some of these qualities, however, I say that he is the worst of the bunch for not being a man and calling a halt to the heated accusations.

My .04.


"Defending your PH friends"
Posted by Angelfood on 09-25-03 at 02:41 PM
Soapie et al,

Yea! A reply.

Yes, you absolutely have a right to post your opinion, we encourage that here. And I have a right to reply with mine. See?
I know all about the editing, I've reserved judgment many a time on myriad postings here.

If you don't want to waste time defending them, I understand, it would take a lot of effort, citing examples and coming up with a reason to excuse their threats, unless that is what you approve of - the verbal abuse and bullying. And if it is, then you should expect to have some conflicts on these boards. And it is harder when 95% of people on this board don't like the Amy Group's behavior.

What I don't understand is why we have seen any Amy Team fans: state that while they may still like (holly, amy, kristin, etc), that they are ashamed of their aggressive behavior and disappointed that they turned out that way, whether from the stress of the game or just showing the true colors. Where are those fans? We've lately been discussing a little disappointment with Dave. Most still like him. I posted elsewhere that I actually do like quite a few things about Amy, but her threats and antics, just negate anything good, sadly.
I'm not against you thinking Holly is a cool chick, that's great.
But why not recognize some faults there too?

What I do "take exception to" (to quote the She-Hulk) is your haphazard dig on Keith "like his little b#$@!". That's the uncalled for and immature part I was talking about, we luckily haven't seen alot of high-school-like talk here. Tara may not stick up for him (that we've seen in the editing), but I will.


Oh no, I've become the Toni of the PH Boards!


"RE: Defending your PH friends"
Posted by soapie on 09-25-03 at 03:45 PM
First of all, I never said I liked Amy or Toni or any of them. All I stated was that Holly was cute and to give her a break.
That's all.
For the use of profanity. I apologize. If you scroll up you will see that two other people also used profaniy. I do not see you getting on their case about it.
For the Amy fans, I don't care where they are. She's nuts anyways.
I do hope that Keith wins this because Dave also disappointed me!
In regards to my comment, I feel that Keith should boot Dave because of what happened in the last episode. Instead of following Dave he should get rid of him. This way we know he has a sure chance of winning.

"4 points for you"
Posted by Angelfood on 09-26-03 at 01:47 PM
Okaaaayyy,

If you truly don't like Lamy or Foni then you certainly get 2 points in my book. However, you didn't SAY that you DIDN'T, but you called her nuts. I will also applaud you for being individual enough to like Holly without liking them (if that's the case), cause I haven't seen anyone think for themselves from that camp yet. I was discussing Amy, to show the point that it's the Behavior of bullying was her downfall. And some of us think Holly does a little of that too.

I'm not saying people can't say a little profanity, I thought the phrase was a little crude for our tastes here and an insult&run. If I see that from others, I'll get them too, you're not singled out. Why not simply say that you dislike Keith or Dave (see how easy it was for us to take it the wrong way?) and back it up, like some people on the current Keith thread? See, on your post above, you've already gotten much better - a civilized argument, respectful and yet, still very opinion-stating. (another 2 points).

May thy journey fare thee well,


"RE: Did someone call the Wolf? - reply to Soapie"
Posted by Bebo on 09-25-03 at 02:51 PM
LAST EDITED ON 09-25-03 AT 02:52 PM (EST)

First off, welcome to the forums, Soapie.

I am allowed to give my opinion don't you think?

Yes, you are. But other posters also have the right to disagree with that opinion and state their own. Not only do we state that clearly in the note at the top of each forum, but also in the guidelines.

I do not have to waste my time debating on people that I will never know or meet.

Then why bother posting on a message board forum?

Edited to make it more clear where I was quoting and replying. As you all know, I like to keep things neat.


Fighting for evil (and neat forums) since 2002


"RE: Did someone call the Wolf? - reply to Soapie"
Posted by superstepmom1 on 09-25-03 at 03:53 PM
SOAPIE-
You're right we will never know the "reality" of these people. We only know what the producers want us to know. We are talking about a weeks worth of 24-hour coverage tucked into a 1 hour show. How much do we really know? Only what they (being the producers of our favorite soap opera) want us too.

I disagree also about Keith though. And I agree about Playboy. They each made about $15,000.00 (per Toni's radio interview and maybe more), why not milk the 15 minutes?


HOPEFULLY, Toni won't be in that spread. EEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWW.


"Toni - reply to Soapie"
Posted by soapie on 09-25-03 at 07:21 PM
Toni made that much? Geez! She was on 94.7 The Zone here in Chicago on Wednesday September 24th. Did anyone happen to hear it? I am interested in what she had to say. I heard she works at some bar over here. Does anyone know where??? It would be funny to see her in person.

I agree, hopefully she won't be in the spread!


"RE: Toni - reply to Soapie"
Posted by sbeck on 09-25-03 at 10:29 PM
Um, guys, don't you think that Toni would be in the Playgirl spread instead???

"RE: Toni - reply to Soapie"
Posted by ITTechmom on 09-30-03 at 11:00 PM
LMAO!!! That's exactly what I was thinking!!!

"RE: Did someone call the Wolf? - reply to Soapie"
Posted by Chrissy gal on 09-25-03 at 02:05 AM
>>Sweet ChrissyGal, don't get those pretty hands dirty.
I'll take it from here...<<

Oh, Angelfood, I knew someone couldn't resist temptation! Thank you for coming to my aid.

Chrissy gal

"Never underestimate the potential psychosis of a reality show contestant." managerr


"RE: "
Posted by Seph617 on 09-25-03 at 09:38 PM
I like Holly. Although she has seemed nieve and air-headed at times, she has managed to stay in the game by keeping a low profile. She is also a very attractive girl. Sure she got a little bit bitchy with Keith, but Keith hasn't been a ##### at times? He was trying to play Holly and I think everyone knows that. I feel its quite shady of him and Dave to go behind their supposivly teammates backs and plot against them. I don't like the "Barbie Group", though, I'll admit Amy and Toni were quite juvenille, along with Zach at times, but I still liked them.

"RE: "
Posted by Katiepops on 09-25-03 at 10:20 PM
I don't know..Holly sure has that fatal attraction thing going on at times. Even when Melanie was not there. She is definitely a leach. And a DAW as someone pointed out.. She is about the least attractive girl on there right now. There has been no real beauties but I think Scott is crazy the two girls he has been involved with (Melanie included). Is it me or does Melanie look ALOT older than she is?

"RE: "
Posted by dasheekee jones on 09-26-03 at 12:33 PM
Ok I'm slow. What is a DAW?

But yea I agree, Holly is psychotic and codependent.

"you spend all your time with your PRECCCCCIIIOOUUUSSSS Tara"

"you spend all your time with the originals"

boo fricken hoo. Doesn't she get it? Scott doesn't like her at all. He's giving her all the signals. Of course, he did smooch (and whatnot) with her because he's just a shallow, clueless, pr*ck.

She also knows that all she has in life are her bazooms; thus the Playboy comment.

And yes, Melanie looks a LOT older. I'm guessing 37. One person in her life probably guessed 27 and that's what she went with.

And am I reading this wrong? Did someone say Toni is doing Playboy?

Lord help us all if she is.


"RE: Toni in Playboy - PLEASE NO!!!"
Posted by superstepmom1 on 09-26-03 at 01:19 PM
Yes I HEARD that there was a possibilty of a "girls of Paradise Hotel" spread. How scary would that be? I'd just die!


"RE: Toni in Playboy - PLEASE NO!!!"
Posted by soapie on 09-26-03 at 01:45 PM
LAST EDITED ON 09-26-03 AT 01:46 PM (EST)

I'd have to go with SBECK and say that Toni should do Playgirl instead of Playboy!!


"RE: Toni in Playboy - PLEASE NO!!!"
Posted by superstepmom1 on 09-26-03 at 02:23 PM
SO TRUE. But what chick reading Playgirl would want to see Toni's bulging pen-s below her bulging eyes!!! EEEWWWW!

"You DAW, Me DAW, We DAW"
Posted by Angelfood on 09-26-03 at 01:49 PM
DAW - see the 3 words next to your name, before "postings".
as in, anyone who posts here, and I think Beau qualifies too.

Can we start taking bets on the decline of Playboy stock when Toni signs on?


"RE: You DAW, Me DAW, We DAW"
Posted by superstepmom1 on 09-26-03 at 02:25 PM
Thanksfully she doesn't plan to do a "spread". LOL.
(see other thread)


"Toni"
Posted by soapie on 09-26-03 at 02:31 PM
I read the other thread also! That's a good thing she is not planning on doing that!!

"RE: Holly"
Posted by johnnycasino1 on 09-26-03 at 02:50 PM
Hey, I have to agree about Holly - While I think she is a total airhead and is confused on how to play the game, she is the hottest girl on the show at this moment. While my wife is tired of me talking about Holly, we both agree that Holly lacks in the smarts department.

This doesn't mean I want Holly to win, just the fact that she's not bad to look at, so I can agree with Soapie on that one.

My vote would be for Keith and Charla to win.

Tony


"RE: Holly"
Posted by Golightly on 09-26-03 at 11:03 AM
Quite a few people seem to think Holly is cute. This just confuses me.

Back before the fall of the Iron Curtain, there were tons of propaganda posters printed in the eastern bloc countries. They frequently featured buxom, grinning, corn-fed...dare I say strapping young peasant women working in fields or factories, looking happy and content in a really vacuous way. Every time I see Holly, I can't help but picture her wearing a grey babushka and wielding a sickle. Welcome to Comrade Hotel.


"RE: Holly"
Posted by Chrissy gal on 09-26-03 at 11:34 AM
>>Every time I see Holly, I can't help but picture her wearing a grey babushka and wielding a sickle. Welcome to Comrade Hotel.<<

What a great picture you paint. I can see it too. I think the vacuous peasant beauties in that picture probably are naturally buxom instead of surgically enhanced like Holly.

Chrissy gal

"Never underestimate the potential psychosis of a reality show contestant." managerr


"RE: Holly"
Posted by socalj on 09-27-03 at 10:49 PM
>>>Every time I see Holly, I can't help but picture her wearing a grey babushka and wielding a sickle. Welcome to Comrade Hotel.<<
>
are naturally buxom
>instead of surgically enhanced like

In her defense, I have to say that I'm stopped a few times a year by an acquaintance who says "So, who's your doctor?" or "Are those real?". Yes, they're real. I'm a D or DD and mine look just like Holly's. I agree with the babushka/sickle comment...she's rather cow-like. I hate having big boobs! ~


"RE: Holly"
Posted by Chrissy gal on 09-28-03 at 01:24 AM
LAST EDITED ON 09-28-03 AT 01:31 AM (EST)

Holly's could be real, but I don't think so.

Chrissy gal

"Never underestimate the potential psychosis of a reality show contestant." managerr


"RE: ElyseSewell"
Posted by MadFashion on 09-26-03 at 05:15 PM
I've been reading this thread for a few days now, and I just now understood your username, HEE HEE HEE! Off topic: Do you know when season 2 of ANTM starts?

"RE: ElyseSewell"
Posted by RollDdice on 09-26-03 at 05:53 PM
>I've been reading this thread for
>a few days now, and
>I just now understood your
>username, HEE HEE HEE!
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Okay, I'll ask: Do you want to share with the rest of the class?



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"RE: ElyseSewell"
Posted by MadFashion on 09-26-03 at 07:06 PM
RollD -

Elyse Sewell was one of the last three contestants on "America's Next Top Model". She was, quite possibly,the most intelligent reality show contestant ever. She was about to enter med school when she tried out as a joke because the auditions were taking place right down the block from her. I LOVED that show, and I can't wait for season 2. Sorry, from now on I'll stay on topic.


"RE: ElyseSewell"
Posted by RollDdice on 09-26-03 at 08:15 PM
>RollD -
>
>Elyse Sewell was one of the last three contestants on "America's Next Top Model". She was, quite possibly,the most intelligent reality show contestant ever.
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You mention "intelligent" and "reality show contestant" in the same sentence? Boy are you on the wrong board!


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"RE: ElyseSewell"
Posted by MadFashion on 09-26-03 at 08:20 PM
RollD-

Elyse is the exception that proves the rule. But your right, that's an oxymoron. BTW, what do you think that makes US?


"RE: ElyseSewell"
Posted by RollDdice on 09-26-03 at 08:38 PM
Just because the Carnival rolls into town and you stare, both repulsed and intrigued, at the Human Snake or Pretzel Boy, does that make you a bad person?

Discuss.


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"RE: ElyseSewell"
Posted by sbeck on 09-26-03 at 09:51 PM
No, just voyeuristic. I must admit that I love reality shows. It's anthropology for the masses, and that was especially true of the first Survivor. Even though PHo is as scripted as non-reality show, I still love it though. (Hi, I'm SBeck, and I'm a PHo-aholic!) It's my theory that everyone has a guilty pleasure. For some it's smoking; for me, it's tv

"RE: ElyseSewell"
Posted by MadFashion on 09-27-03 at 00:15 AM
LAST EDITED ON 09-27-03 AT 00:29 AM (EST)

A bad person? Absolutly not. But if I were 20 years old again (and at 20, I was 5'10, 125 lbs. and a C cup) I would probably be a reality T.V. whore. In fact, my maid of honor and EX-best friend has been on Elimidate TWICE! I can't stand the thought of her as a person, but I called everyone I knew when I saw her on the tube. I think the reason I'm so addicted to this stuff is that I can identify. It's not a life I would choose now, certainly (now I have a husband and a son), but 10 years ago.... I'll admit I was that lost. I have really wandered off topic, but it's Friday, my husband and 5-month-old have gone to Gramma's, and I've had a few. So, to get back to it, GO BARBIES!


"RE: Holly"
Posted by MadFashion on 09-27-03 at 01:21 AM
Bebo-

I'm sorry, I thought her bazomba's needed a different thread. they just seem like such seperate entities.....


"RE: Holly"
Posted by andrew_42 on 09-27-03 at 07:38 AM
>Bebo-
>
>I'm sorry, I thought her bazomba's
>needed a different thread.
>they just seem like such
>seperate entities.....


LOL


"RE: Holly"
Posted by schillch on 09-29-03 at 04:31 PM
Holly has an "oh my god" body, those cones are just lickalicious, and that ass, oh yeah doggie style every night baby.

"RE: Holly"
Posted by MadFashion on 09-29-03 at 05:14 PM
Schillch-

I can't tell if your serious or being sarcastic. ???


"Investing in a thesaurus"
Posted by RollDdice on 09-29-03 at 07:20 PM
Well, since Schillch said exactly the same thing about Charla in another thread, I think that's just his way of looking at things.
And by things, I mean body parts.

Didn't Fred and Wilma ride a thesaurus to the Bedrock Drive In?


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"RE: Investing in a thesaurus"
Posted by schillch on 09-30-03 at 11:10 AM
NO, I said Charla was sexy, BUT "HOLLY" has an oh my god body.
Then I saw that there was a seperate thread just fo Holly, and so I thought that I would put my comments there as well.

Hope this clears up your confusion,


"Thank you REALLY"
Posted by superstepmom1 on 09-30-03 at 11:12 AM
Thanks for the clarification. LOL



"RE: Investing in a thesaurus"
Posted by schillch on 09-30-03 at 11:13 AM
Here you go, I went back and copied my quote from the Charla thread.

"Charla is sexy, but Holly has an "OH MY GOD" Body.
Sweet&Juicy ass and oh what a rack"

P.S. Invest in a memory.


"RE: Investing in a thesaurus"
Posted by Bebo on 09-30-03 at 11:45 AM
LAST EDITED ON 09-30-03 AT 11:46 AM (EST)

Just a reminder that per the Guidelines, no personal attacks on posters are allowed.

Fighting for evil (and neat forums) since 2002


"RE: Investing in a thesaurus"
Posted by RollDdice on 09-30-03 at 11:45 AM
>Here you go, I went back
>and copied my quote from
>the Charla thread.
>
>"Charla is sexy, but Holly has
>an "OH MY GOD" Body.
>
>Sweet&Juicy ass and oh what a
>rack"
>
>P.S. Invest in a memory.
==========================================
Ouch, that stung. I apologize. You are correct, that is indeed your quote. (wait, hold on a second... oh, it's the "Bartlett's Familiar Quotations" folks on line three. They're interested.)

And I have more memory on back order. I'm expecting it ... was that Tuesday or Thursday? I don't recall.


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"This is what I have to say about Holly..."
Posted by CantStandToLook on 09-30-03 at 12:35 PM

A 2003 RolldDice Original


"Holly you are hot stuff"
Posted by realitytvjunky4 on 09-30-03 at 02:39 PM
She's adorable!!
She's hot!

"RE: Holly"
Posted by sweeterncandy on 02-13-04 at 04:24 PM
Holly ended up a real #####. She always seemed rather dumb to me. Always talked in monosyllables & seemed like her personality was flat & boring. Actually, I always thought Tara was the cutest & had the best personality, always sweet & fun & laughing. Loved the way she handled herself to all the jealous negativity comments from the other females, with the exception of Charla. Charla's one of those women that sometimes she looks kinda cute, sometimes not. I never did like Charla much.

"RE: Holly"
Posted by RollDdice on 02-14-04 at 01:08 AM
Dear Sweeter,

Welcome to the RTW board. I thought I was in a time warp when I saw your message here.

Didn't P-Ho end 5 months ago? (I thought I had a slow internet connection!)

Hope you check out OT (Off Topic), Survivor and some of the other forums. There are a lot of great people here.

- Roll
P.S. Make sure you ask someone for a Crap Basket.



Coffee - The 9th Wonder of the World


"RE: Holly"
Posted by managerr on 02-19-04 at 10:53 AM
Paradise Hotel is in the middle of airing in a few foreign countries as we speak.