I know I know, Breezy... don't think it doesn't do any good. But here's my theory on why Toni is so nasty to Dave. First she doesn't like him cause he doesn't want her. She doesn't get any attention from him in that way so she gets it in her perverted way.

The main reason though is cause they both have "manly" boobs. Dave has his "man boobs" and she has her "manly" boobs (not to mention, face and the rest of her body.) Why anyone would find her attractive is beyond me.

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"manly-boobs". LOL
You made me think of the old Irish Spring soap commercials.

"manly yes, but I like it too"

You could be right about Toni dissing Dave cause he isn't interested in her, but I really think it's all been pre-planned and they are just acting out the scenario given to them by the producers. That's why, to my total displeasure, I'm pretty sure Toni will be there to the end. You have to have someone to hate on these shows and she's #1.

Would it be too much to ask that she not be put on any other upcoming reality shows? Can we start our petition now?

Toni is (sadly) trying to "play the game". We saw this in Love Cruise. She has her cronies and is trying to villainize someone. Unlike poor Michael however, Dave isn't that good at fighting back. Charla seems to be the only smart cookie who can see through Toni, but everyone is stupid and can't listen to what Charla realizes.

> Unlike poor Michael however,
>Dave isn't that good at
>fighting back.

...I know, the guy is such a friggen pansy. The whole time, I'm sitting there screaming at the tv "okay Dave, now simply laugh in her face and calmly tell her to go fvck herself" Her arguments could be combatted by a 5 year old, such as her "I'm the reliable source!!" comment. That had me rolling on the floor.

Honestly, I have never seen such a collection of morons as they have on this show. Every guy is a complete idiot and the only person there with half a brain is Charla, who as someone else pointed out, nobody listens to anyway.

And congrats to Tara for breaking the record in the category of "quickest amount of time it takes me to lose every ounce of respect I had for a person". I'm still trying to figure out what was the point of all the strategy convo's we saw if she was just going to turn around and pick the guy she wanted to screw the most.

"I'm still trying to figure out what was the point of all the strategy convo's we saw if she was just going to turn around and pick the guy she wanted to screw the most."

I think she picked Beau to oust Amanda. It seems that Tara realized it may be better to get in good with the threesome(Toni/Kristin/Amy) than risk an alliance with Charla and Amanda. Amanada is unstable, and she could have been used as a pawn with the threesome. Tara probably would have picked any guy Amanda picked to get her out.

Do you really think that if Amanda picked Dave she would have picked Dave to oust Amanda? Hell no, who would want him, it's like Shakes said, she just wants to screw Beau.

True,

But if she wants to skrump with Beau, she can skrump with Beau and not be in the same room. It doesn't seem to matter who you live with as matter of who you hook up with (amanda for example)
There were plenty of other options Tara could have taken to avoid kickin Amanda if she really gave a flip about keeping the "alliance."

I got a feeling from watching the selections that Amanda asked Tara to "take her out."

At the very least, Amanda knew that she was going to be leaving, whether she wanted it, the producers wanted it, etc.

In my opinion (yours may differ), Amanda picked Toni's guy just to make Toni sweat it out a little bit. Amanda did not seem at all perturbed that she wasn't picked, and she didn't seem upset when Tara subsequently picked her guy.

By the way, who is this "Kristen" ov vich yoo speek? Is she, like, a contestant on this thing? Haven't seen her more than maybe twice this whole series, so just wonderin', is all...

Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

...I know, the guy is such a friggen pansy. The whole time, I'm sitting there screaming at the tv "okay Dave, now simply laugh in her face and calmly tell her to go fvck herself"

Uh oh, press the panic button, trouble in Paradise. Satan just got hit on the horns with a snowball... cause SurvivinDawg is about to agree with shakestheclown on something(!) *gasp*

I agree that Dave was totally idiotic just sitting there taking the abuse that he did. Anyone with any degree of testosterone anywhere in his body would've fronted Toni immediately, and then told Zack something like "I don't value your opinion anyway, your mama was right to leave you on the curb!". But Dave... tsk tsk, it gets really hard to feel any pain for the abuse the guy takes when he won't even defend himself....

Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged